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larry: all right, so, please don't forget our podcast. that begins tonight and let me just say again, in case you missed it i hate baloney sandwiches but i love elizabeth macdonald's show. liz: we love you, larry. i hate baloney period coming out of the white house. larry let me tell you this. 5:38 the polling shop, biden is now trending worse than every president in approval ratings. wow what a finding. larry: he deserves it. liz: he's a bad president and
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his policies are terrible for the nation. larry we love you though we're moving on to this. live update. former president trump in new york city ahead of his arraignment tomorrow we'll tell you what's happening in this hour. opec + and saudi arabia sticking it to a stunned and surprised white house with oil cuts driving gas higher. polls like we were just telling larry show biden and democrats are losing middle class and working class voters to the gop, but biden has said is ramping it up today on costly green energy. with us tonight congressman dan yuser, former arkansas governor mike huckabee, twitter files journalist and candidate for california, governor michael shellenburger, former acting dhs secretary chad wolf, and campus reform fellow nicholas giordano, and energy pro neil chatergy. president biden in minneapolis today but again avoids a nearby town evacuated for yet
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another toxic train crash. that town is just two hours away we've got the easy fix, also to stop all of that. these crashes. also, california governor newsom , he's got a new distraction, but he's now targeting republican governors amid record problems in the golden state. and the parents bill of rights movement is now sweeping the nation and homeland security secretary mayorkas reveals a real reason why he will not call the border a crisis. i'm elizabeth macdonald, the evening edit starts right now. liz: thank you so much for joining us. check your money. stocks ending mostly to the up side, on the very first day trading day of april. tech sector layoffs now spreading though, to manufactures and retailers. mcdonald's is preparing for a wave of hundreds of corporate layoffs, and getting back to that story the white house was
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stunned. saudi arabia and opec + stick it to the white house with a surprise cut in oil production. gas prices surging higher, right before the summer driving season we've got edward lawrence live at the white house with more. edward? reporter: yeah, the white house stunned by the actual size of the production cut, from opec + and they were notified that cuts were coming. they just didn't know how large and in fact gas prices or oil prices today were responding to that opec + cutoff more than 1.1 million-barrels a day, be the production cut. that on top of the russians previously announcing half a million barrels a day cut from the production. now, experts say this puts pressure on gas prices. you see where they are today. the american petroleum institute tells me that the president did this to himself through his current policies. >> i think what we've seen from the administration unfortunately is mixed signals. they talk about the need for more supply but they take
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steps to take energy production off the table. for example, the pause of leasing for oil & gas development on federal land. reporter: house republicans say that energy security is exactly why they passed the lower energy cost act. white house press secretary last week not interested though in talking about the policy changes listen. >> if it's bipartisan, why wouldn't the president sign it, if it hits his desk? >> look, i talked about this earlier in the week about specifically about our thoughts about hr-1. i don't have anything else beyond that to share. what i stated i think two days ago stands, just don't have anything else to share. reporter: so, in fact, the feeling here at the white house is that this is a different situation because the price of oil is about $80 a barrel whereas it was $110 a barrel last year, but if this price holds, the president will have trouble replenishing the strategic petroleum reserve. that's because you can't replenish and release at the
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same time. right now, they are in a congressional mandated release until june 30. after june 30 is when they could replace or replenish the strategic petroleum reserve. they have to do that though between $67 and $72 a barrel. we're nowhere near that range at the moment. liz: edward lawrence you're terrific. joining us the former chairman of the federal energy regulatory commission he is maleotokas chat ergy. we really wanted you on this show tonight. you know, this really rattled the white house and upended the president's 21-state tour and climate spending. no one is talking about that now he's now delaying his 2024 announcement to possibly the fall, and wall street is talking $5 gas maybe $100 oil. how can he say that it's this is just like inflation is transitory, that oil is going to stick it around 70 to 80. how can we really believe him? >> he's going past the graveyard again, as they have been with their energy policy from the onset of this
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administration. look, when we were producing oil and natural gas thanks to the shale revolution here at home, when opec + made cuts, we fill the gap. america filled the gap and took advantage of their production cuts. now, we find ourselves in the situation where we are vulnerable to these kinds of geo political decisions, has economic consequences, has international security consequences, and environmental consequences as well. liz: voter anxiety too, to what neil was just saying, congressman dan muser from house financial services now joining us. voter anxiety is really high. the democrats are losing the working and middle class voters. we see that quinnipiac, gallop and ap polls. watch again candidate biden on american energy independence. watch this. >> no more drilling on federal lands. no more drilling including offshore. no ability for the oil industry to continue to drill, period.
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>> would there be any place for fossil fuels including coal and fracking in the biden administration? >> well, we would work it out and make sure it's eliminated and no more subsidies for either one of those , any fossil fuels. a transition from the oil industry, yes, and i'd stop giving to the oil industry. i'd stop giving them federal subsidies. liz: he's doing that but is the white house now trying reverse course, congressman? you know the undercut, but now they are auctioning off oil & gas leases in the gulf the size of arizona doing that controversial drilling project in alaska. what do you think, congressman? >> well, i think they are trying to maybe have their cake and eat it too. it's too little too late in many cases. now, i'm glad that they are perhaps opening up some and at least giving the old college try to win in 2024 and even to deal with inflation but liz, i mean, these guys have caused this
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inflation. certain the energy policy but as well spending $7 trillion over the last two and a half years and the fed backing that up with qe adding another 4 trillion to the money supply, i mean, this was just a remedy for inflation and rattling -- liz: yeah, that's right. it's rattling the markets and the biden white house, to what the congressman was just saying i'm so sorry didn't mean to cut you off. your piece is knocking in and out, sorry, congressman. the biden white house has its eye off the ball, neil, with costly climate change spending what the congressman just said, fueling inflation. bans on u.s. appliances and light bulbs. watch bill maher here, watch. >> okay, well, america has always been quasi-socialist, but at least for the last century and a half. social security is socialism. the marine corps is socialism, every advanced democracy is quasi-socialist. >> are you saying where we were in america is where we are today oh, my god. it's an absolute assault on
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capitalism, on democracy, on federalism. >> yes, i agree. we have too much socialism. i live in california. liz: you know, these are interesting conversations, neil, but here is the thing. china and russia are teaming up on trade deals knocking at the u.s. dollar. saudi officials already say they are going to trade oil products and currencies, not in the u.s. dollar. after they met with china's president. there is still high demand for the u.s. dollar. it will still dominate but it is the most transparent liquid system, but china is a closed system but still there's a rise in other currency blocks, neil, for trade. the ims says look at this. the u.s. dollar lost 12 percentage points in market share over the last decade or so, falling to 59% now. neil? >> i mean, the congressman couldn't be more right, and look , he's representing pennsylvania, where we are sitting on just enormous supply of domestic energy and we can't tap it, because of environmental policies, and here is the irony of the biden administration
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strategy. their solution to all of this , their solution to dealing with opec + manipulating things is well, we're going to transition to electric vehicles. liz: got it. >> then we find ourselves in a vision where we're dependent on the chinese communist party for our batteries. liz: watch with the supply chain with trucks going to electric. that's going to wreck the u.s. supply chain. they don't know what they are doing. congressman, thanks for joining us and neil, good to see you. this story, former president trump now in new york city ahead of his arraignment tomorrow. let's get to lydia hu. she's live outside manhattan criminal court. lidia, good to see you. reporter: good to be with you tonight, liz. that's right. former president trump arrived at trump tower earlier this afternoon, waving to spectators as he entered through a side of the building. this is officially marking his return to the big apple just ahead of his historic arraignment that's going to happen right here at new york city criminal court tomorrow. now, in preparation for the arraignment, former president trump is expanding his
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defense team, bringing in white collar defense attorney todd bla nche. a former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and he previously represented paul manafortafort, trump's former campaign manager and in that case it was a mortgage fraud case. trump is expected to enter a plea of not guilty. his legal team previously said they are preparing to argue that the charges should be dismissed. now the charges filed against trump have not yet been unsealed but according to reports, more than two dozen charges are based on the $130,000 in hush money paid to adult film star stormy daniels. it is expected that trump will be released after surrendering to the district attorney's office and he will return to palm beach, florida tomorrow where he will deliver remarks in the evening to supporters from mar-a-lago but liz, there is one factor that could complicate that type of address. that is a gag order the judge could end enter, and some legal
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experts say it is extremely likely that such a gag order be entered but some critics say it's really just a transparent attempt to prevent the president from campaigning for 2024. liz? liz: lydia hu you're always terrific. thank you so much. look whose here, legal-legal. okay, this. you know, these 34, it's good to see you, hans. the manhattan da's 34 criminal charges bumping up likely falsification of business records, linking it to possible concealment of federal campaign violations, the campaign expense there's so much reasonable doubt here, hans. if it was so egregious why didn't the doj pursue charges here. usually it's just a fine. >> well i don't think they pursue charges and neither did the federal election commission go after civil charges, because they didn't believe it was a violation of federal campaign finance law. look, this case is so full of holes, first with the fact that
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both of the federal agencies, who are responsible for enforcing federal law on campaigns, didn't think this was worth pursuing, plus his state case, the misdemeanor, you know, for that charge you have to show an intent to defraud. i don't see any victim here. who did they defraud with what might have been a bookkeeping error? liz: yeah, you know, so let's listen to this. you've talked about this too, we think. more and more prosecutors question the large number of potentially 34 charges against trump as overkill. watch that and watch manhattan d a bragg say yeah, i'm campaigning on "get trump." watch. >> you want a jury eventually to believe that the more counts there are, there may be more criminal behavior, and let's face it. we've all, those of us who have been prosecutors have added counts to put more pressure on the defendant and to make the case appear to be stronger
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than it is. >> they're saying there's 34 charges here? now, this doesn't apply to new york, but in the justice department, we have guidance that tells prosecutors to limit the number of charges to the things that are really serious, because what you're always worried about for due process purposes is the prosecutor tries to kind of bull over the jury with quantity when the case doesn't have quality. >> a lot of people are wondering whoever has this job, are they going to convict donald trump? >> that is the number one issue >> and you believe it should happen? >> i believe we have to hold him accountable. liz: okay, you know, hans, here is the thing. are you worried that our u.s. justice system is being distorted and twisted for political gain? >> oh, i am very worried about it and not just by this d. a.
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alvin bragg is unfortunately one of the worst examples but we have political da's like this unfortunately in many other parts of the country but bragg seems to be the worst. look, he apparently campaigned on a promise that he would get donald trump. that is not something a prosecutor is supposed to do. that is putting politics ahead of the administration of justice , and what all those other former productivitieses said is absolutely right about piling on charges because they want to overwhelm the jury, to make them think, well, something must have been done wrong by putting that many charges in an indictment. liz: hans we can't lose the integrity of the u.s. justice system. we can't lose the credibility of the u.s. justice system. here is a way to put it. in a lot of credibility and reputations are also on trial here. would you want former house speaker nancy pelosi on your jury? would you want james comer or any of the get trump media on your jury if you had to face a jury? i mean pelosi tweeting basically
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, trump has to prove his innocence, when he's innocent until proven guilty. james comer tweeting "this is a good day." should any of these individuals ever serve on a jury given their attitudes and behavior. >> no, they shouldn't and unfortunately, i think what bragg is counting on in manhattan is getting a bias jury look this is one of the liberal bastians in the country. unfortunately the chances of donald trump actually getting a fair trial with an objective jury seems pretty slim. liz: yeah, you know, listen. a lot of voters don't like trump for the way he behaves, the things he says, right? a lot of people believe he was also railroaded. are you afraid that mob justice is now so tainting the u.s. judicial system that there's going to be a tough job to try to claw all of that back to reinstate integrity. because listen to your point, trump deserves a fair trial, right? >> right. liz: when you watch the media over the weekend, was it more
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about get trump and less about the facts of the case or how did you see it? >> well, i think some sources of the media, it's part of get trump. on the other hand, look. we've seen a lot of even liberal political figures, including andrew cuomo coming out and saying this is actually questionable, and i think folks need to keep that in mind. we don't want a political justice system. liz: these are the times that make or break reputations, hans , right? >> yes. liz: this is happening right now we'll have you back on. thanks for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. liz: california governor newsom, gavin newsom, he is in a new distraction. he now wants to target republican governors and republican state politicians amid record problems in the golden state. plus, former arkansas governor mike huckabee will join us. president biden in minneapolis today, but again, not going to a nearby town, yet another town, evacuated for yet another toxic train crash.
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economic and clean energy agenda and still under water in a majority of the politicals and near the historic lows of his presidency. fox news mark meredith in minneapolis with the story. mark? reporter: liz, good evening to you. president biden's visit here to minnesota was brief, but he says he's focused on the long term about bringing more manufacturing jobs here to the heartland. given the news we heard from opec over the weekend that is planning to cut oil exports, that could impact inflation, it'll also likely fuel the president's critics that his economic energy strategy is simply falling short. now, the president had a chance to tour a manufacturing facility in minnesota, highlighting the 2022 inflation reduction act which he says encourages manufacturing of clean and renewable energy products. he toured a facility owned by company called cummins, so that they can manufacture more low to zero carbon emission engines. the president says these kind of investments are crucial to improving both the environment and the u.s. economy. >> these are the machines that
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make clean hydrogen, a renewable energy used to power our economy from clean cars to trucks to steel to cement manufacturing but now, thanks to the inflation reduction act, with the tax credits for renewable energy, cu mmins is going to manufacture these here in america for the first time. >> [applause] reporter: but the president is still facing some criticism including from fellow democrat west virginia senator joe manchin who says the inflation reduction act is doing little to nothing to reduce the countries record deficits and he's now an outspoken critic of the legislation he once voted for. recent polling shows voters are still concerned about the economy as well. fox finding in its latest survey 90% of voters believe that the inflation issue is something that they are very concerned about. liz? liz: mark meredith thank you so much. look whose here former arkansas governor mike huckabee. it's great to see you sir, good to have you back on. okay let's talk about this. your daughter arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders, dealing
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with multiple deaths, five dead, destruction from tornadoes hitting 11 states killing 32 at least. you were a governor too. now the president will not go to yet another toxic train crash outside minneapolis when it's just two hours away? how important is it for raymond, minnesota to see the president? >> it's incredibly important, liz, and let me tell you why. presidents and governors, they can't go in and fix things. they can't go in and wave their hands over and suddenly make it better, but here is what they can do. they can look people in the eye who have lost everything they have, who are fearful of what their next day is going to bring , and they can give them a handshake, a hug, and the promise of some help. i can not tell you how much that means. my daughter, for example, has been spending the last several days right after the tornadoes hit arkansas walking through the aftermath, talking to people who have lost everything, and it means something to people. it's the presence, and it also does one other thing people
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don't remember. when a governor shows up or when a president shows up, so do all of the cameras and reporters, and it keeps the story in front of people so that they will be reminded to make contributions to samaritan 's purse or the red cross and to not forget about these people. liz: why isn't president biden going? we just showed 5:38. he's now trending lower in approval ratings than all presidents since harry truman. he's been to mississippi. we're talking about the second toxic train crash in just two months. he didn't go to east palestine, ohio either andre monday is just two hours away from where he was in minnesota. >> it's hard to understand why his staff has put a leash on him and they won't let him go to places where he needs to go, but then they let him get on a stage and wander off aimlessly because he has no recollection. does he go left stage or right stage to get off, and do something. he shakes hands with ghosts. maybe they are afraid he can't handle an unscripted moment.
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truth is he doesn't handle the scripted ones very well, but i don't understand why he's not showing up at some of these moments. again, nobody expects him to fix it or to be able to magically make things better, but let me give credit to a democrat president. bill clinton. he was the best at always being there when people had some kind of catastrophic event. this isn't about party or politics. this is absolutely about good leadership and when people understand the role they can play, they show up in moments like this because it truly does matter. liz: yeah, we can remember the footage of bill clinton showing up at catastrophic or natural disasters and let's get your reaction to this. transportation secretary pete buttigieg says he's not going to raymond, minnesota either. watch this. >> right now, i am not going to get in the way of investigators or local officials. i did visit ohio as far as we know, it's the first time that a transportation secretary has
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visited a hazardous material derailment site because it was very important for the community to hear the message of support from this administration. liz: okay, officials in these towns, michael huckabee saying pete buttigieg going does not stop the government from investigating at all. he's been to albuquerque, oklahoma, other places, but again, pete buttigieg is not going to minnesota, and, you know, the minnesota people are saying where are you? how come you're not helping us out here and visiting us. >> liz, please don't tell him but he's just not that big a deal. his presence wouldn't disrupt anything, but his presence might say something about the administration having some semblance of concern. if biden isn't going to come, his administration people should but look, pete buttigieg is more interested in diversity than it is in competence. he's an incompetent leader but by golly he's got a diverse bunch of people around him and that seems to be all he cares
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knock them out of office, but california's got major problems. what do you think is going on here? >> well, san francisco is absolutely in freefall. we keep thinking it's going to hit rock bottom, but the mayor of san francisco just asked for federal help including federal policing help because the drug dealers have become so violent they are attacking pass er-buys, widespread sexual assaults occurring on the streets of san francisco, record overdoses, things just keep deteriorating. there are 540 police officers short because the mayor, herself , had demanded that they defund the police. the governor is out to lunch. he's only concerned about becoming president of the united states. he doesn't care about san francisco. that's very apparent by his actions, so, you know, look. if he does run then we'll be able to have a conversation about the disaster that's unfold ing on the streets of san francisco. liz: and throughout california. its got record homelessness, crime, drug and human traffic
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king, wildfires, its electric grid is on the brink and he wants to go all-electric but now his new political action committee go after ron desantis and greg abbott in texas after newsom's own in laws made a 5,000 contribution to desantis through a family trust? >> yeah, i was just in miami. i've seen the situation there. it's much better on the streets. they require homeless mentally ill, you know, drug addicted folks to come inside. you're three times more likely to die as a homeless person if living on the street than if you're required to come inside. the so-called homeless problem in california was created by governor gavin newsom. he's the one that has liberalized laws around open air drug use, open air drug dealing, around camping anywhere. he's refused to deal with the psychiatric emergency that is the drug addiction crisis, so i think the fact that he wants to run and draw attention to
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what's happening in california, it's actually great news because i think people will be able to see what a disaster his policies have been on drug addiction, mental illness and homelessness. liz: let's get your reaction to governor newsom here. watch this. >> problem in our country right now, authoritarian leaders who are so hell-bent on gaining power and keeping it by whatever means necessary that they're directly attacking our freedoms in state after state. we're going to these states and investing in people and organizations, where they are fighting back. liz: michael, this is really in competent messaging. he's going after republicans for being authoritarians after governor newsom shutdown churches, schools, and little guys small mom and pop stores but not the big box stores. he went to his own restaurant and ate out without a mask after he told everyone else to mask up his pandemic lockdowns wrecked california in many ways in terms of the little guy, and they are still fighting the small mom and
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pop shops, you know, michael. they are still fighting in the courts, because what they're saying is what governor newsom did was unconstitutional and this is what he wants for america? >> well, that's right. he wants for the masses, of course he doesn't want that for himself and the elites. they want full freedom, full rights, but for poor neighborhoods they don't get the police they need, the order they need and then look at the debate about homelessness. i was invited to testify in front of the legislature and the democratic majority refused to let me testify even though i'm in a cnn documentary, i have a major book out on the topic, i write about the issue, i've done investigate you've reporting. we've just got a 14-year-old girl off the street being sex trafficked in san francisco. the situation here is terrible and the reason it's terrible is because gavin newsom and his party refuse to open up the debate. liz: michael shellenburger, please come back soon. we love having you on the show. coming up homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas reveals the real reason why he
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liz: well, look whose back with us, nicholas giordano. it's great to have you back on, nicholas. it's good to see you. >> thank you for having me. liz: so the parent's bill of rights movement, nicholas, is now sweeping the nation and now we're seeing 32 states pushing for that or they already have that legislation, but what's your reaction to democrats who say this is only meant to empower "reaction airy parents" who will dictate education and curriculum so the rest of the nation, they say that's bad. >> well, we saw it in the governor's race in virginia where you had terry mcauliffe
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say parents shouldn't have a say in their children's education. same thing with president biden. when the children are in school, well they aren't the parents and that's just untrue. we saw during the coronavirus we were horrified at what the students were learning so parents went from not attending school board meetings to standing room only and the reason they did that is because they know that their children are being indoctrinated they aren't being educated and we learned about this on long island too where you had an assistant superintendent for a school talking about covertly implementing dei, diversity, equity, and inclusion and social justice into the program without parents knowing so parents are pushing back. they want to see a parent's bill of right and we need some type of parents bill of rights codified because the public schools are failing. proficiency levels are down. we're seeing widening academic achievement gap. campus reform has reported on this extensively and the problem becomes that without a parent's bill of rights the schools have run wild. you have officials that are talking about doing away with
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standardized testing for proficiency levels because students are at all times lows when it comes to proficiency and we're seeing a surge in enrollments when it comes to private school and catholic education. the reason being is because they are doing a better job. parents want to be involved in their child's education. liz: they have been descending on capitol hill, slamming the actions of the biden white house. they say the government is interfering with how they raise their own children. let's watch lt. governor of virginia on the bill maher show. watch this. >> i'm a parent. i'm a parent all day. i get to decide what happens in my child's life. not you. not the government. not anybody. i don't co-parent. i had this child. i'm responsible for this child. anything happens to little johnny, you're calling me as you should. >> [applause] >> so what i'm saying now is if i don't want my child given lap dances at school by a drag queen , i don't want it done.
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>> right. >> that's happening. >> parents, here is the thing. you send your child to school. you want them to learn history, you want them to learn how to read and write and do arithmetic if that's not happening then what is the point? liz: what do you think, nicholas it's so sad. public schools were meant for the poor, right? it's terrible what's going on. what did you think of the lt. governor here? >> i think she's absolutely right, and listen, we need a vibrant public education system and if the public education system isn't going to do that that's where we need to attach school choice as well where the tax dollars follow the student. maybe that'll create competition and force public schools to take more emphasis on reading, writing, arithmetic, government, civics and i think that right now, the education system has collapsed. officials are trying to cover it up. they are concealing, like they are responsible for the learning and widening of the academic achievement gaps but as parents, we have a right to determine
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when our children learn about controversial topics. it's not the school's job. it's not the teacher's job. we don't need to be teaching gender ideology to children as young as kindergarten. it's completely -- liz: stay on this for a second. how come they have lost all common sense? children have anxiety. children get scared. they are not ready for adult subjects like that. it's meant for more mature students, possibly even as late as senior or junior in high school i would say. why are they, it literally is causing tremendous anxiety for children. we've seen reports about this , so why have they lost all sense of common sense here? >> because they have become ide ologs. they aren't educating their children. they are pushing an ideology and agenda on the children. these are the theories that used to be taught at the college level that now are being incorporated into the youngest grades possible, and these children haven't learned how to think critically. they don't know how to look for evidence and formulate arguments and pushback.
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liz: right. >> so we need to take a proactive approach in the education system. liz: nicholas giordano, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. liz: my "hat take" is coming up plus former anding homeland security secretary chad wolf and dhs secretary mayorkas revealing the real reason he will not call the border a crisis. let's check in first though with dagen and sean. they have a lot next hour coming up on the bottom line. good to see you. >> thanks, we have brett toll man, former u.s. attorney and steve hilton, going to unpack the trump indictment. dagen: then also miranda devine coming up, and the senator on, well, opec and how did we wind up giving up our position as the world's swing producer? sean: we're going to drill into that. dagen: oh, no you didn't, dad joke. what if we live to like 100? that's 35 years of being retired. i don't want to outlive our money.
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liz: well look whose here, former acting homeland security secretary chad wolf. it's great to see you, sir. let's please first get your reaction to dhs secretary mayorkas refusing to call the border a crisis. watch this. >> do you view what's happening right now on the border as a crisis? >> i view it as a significant challenge. >> why won't you say the word crisis? >> you know what? because i have tremendous faith in the people of the department
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of homeland security, and a crisis speaks to me of a withdrawal from our mission and we are only putting more force and more energy into it. well let's, i mean, the number of people that are arriving at our border is at an extraordinary height. there's no question about that, but that is not unique to the southern border of the united states. liz: so chad, did you get that? so all of america we're all supposed to feel safe and happy and comfortable with his word play here and, you know, down playing it, with just word games? >> well it's remarkable. he defines crisis i think unlike any other individual in this country. i think most americans, and i would say most employees of the department of homeland security would also call what's going on on the border a crisis and the fact that the secretary doesn't actually say the word, i think, sort of speaks volumes
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about his continued word salad afterword salad. the members of congress, and congressional testimony and really dancing around a lot of key issues not just on that question but on many other questions he simply just will not answer the question, which not only is a disservice to members of congress but it appears as though he's trying to hide the ball on something and i think that's probably one of the most concerning aspects. liz: what is he trying to hide the ball on? >> well, i think the true nature of what's going on on the border. how it got there, how it got to be a crisis and the solutions if you listen to the hearing, there were a number of times where he could have said look, we're doing one, two, and three to bring this crisis under control, but he wasn't willing to go there when members of congress asked him, well why don't you do this to drive away people from the border. he wasn't willing to take those policy steps to get to that so i think he believes in this open border concept and that was on display. liz: i'm going to talk to my team. show the video of the illegal immigrant baby on a flotation
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device alone, floating down the river by eagle pass. he's drifting down there. you see that. texas border guard jumped in, a national guard soldier rushing to assist that child outside eagle pass. he was rescued. this , chad, shows it's severity of the crisis, so the borders not a crisis, afghanistan was a success, inflation is transitory , gas prices now going up because of opec production cuts won't be a problem, and more than 6 million illegal immigrants have crossed the border since biden took office and we got nikki haley now in eagle pass talking with gop republicans, congressman there. >> yeah, i think that's right. i think we can talk about politics, but those pictures of that child really tells you the humanitarian crisis of what's going on on that border and that's going to be the legacy of the biden administration is that humanitarian crisis for the past 25 months and probably for the next two years. they are going to continue these failed policies and we're going to have more and more of this so
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at the end of the day they have a lot to account for. they are breaking record numbers for all the wrong reasons along that border and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight. liz: chad, okay, republicans have said they would like to impeach the homeland security secretary mayorkas. if you were sitting in that chair as you have been in the past and you heard that, what would your reaction be? >> if they wanted to impeach me i would say look, you've got to defend your policy. you have to defend your decisions on things that you made and you need to explain it to members of congress as well as to the american people, and i think that's what they're saying is not occurring. when he goes before congress, and refuses to answer questions and refuses to tell the american people the truth, you sit there and you say the border is secure and we have operational control of the border, and then you re define what those terms are because you want it to fit their narrative, that's where people get frustrated and upset. if you continue to do that i think you'll be in peril. liz: border patrol chief ortiz
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already said they lost operational control. so we'll stay on the story. my point to ask you that question, chad, was wouldn't you react and say yeah, we're on the stick instead we get word salad games. thank you so much. good to have you on the show. my "hot take" is coming up. don't move, stay right there. . .
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liz: my "hot take." more and more poles show americans are anxious. the reasons for feeling that way are valid. voters are really concerned about inflation their finances the economy. opec plus's saw saud now sticking it to the white house, sticking it to the president, cutting oil production over there right as we're heading into the summer driving season. now wall street is talking gas could go to five dollars a gallon, oil to 100 bug as barrel. this will hit middle class voters and working class voters. already they are trending away from the democrats and biden. they're going toward republicans. we don't have to be in this situation. we can reverse biden and his targeting of u.s. energy. we can get common sense market policies instead of pushing down your throat green energy or things like banning your household appliances. we're talking gas stoves, washing machines, and air conditioners. it is all so ridiculous. this is this, they're not sending president or transportation secretary buttigieg to the sight of
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another toxic train derailment outside of minneapolis minnesota. the president was there today, just two hours away. he didn't go. he is there instead, you guessed it push his climate agenda. can california governor gavin newsom is he trying to capitalize? "axios" the president won't announce his 2024 bid until the fall. gavin newsom is going after red states. crises in otherwise own state are piling up. tune in former fbi agent bobby chacon, miranda devine. email us at emacviewers@fox.com. thanks for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. time for my buddies at the bottom line. terrific show from dagen an and sean coming up. dagen: thank you, emac ♪. dagen: good evening everybody, i'm dagen mcdowell. sean: i'm sean duffy. we come to "the bottom line." dagen: let's

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