future. that's it for us tonight. join us tomorrow, good night from new york. [♪] kennedy: he put the hell in helsinki. president trump back in the united states after his historic and controversial summit with russian president vladimir putin. the president is pushing back on cite sip that he trusts putin more than his own intelligence agencies regarding the pesky russian meddling. president trump: i have confidence in my intelligence people. but president putin was strong in his denial. he offered to have the people

work on the case come and work with the investigators in addition to the 12 people. kennedy: critics say the president had the opportunity and did not stand up to putin. conspiracy theorists say the president plays nice with vlad because he know there might be some russian dirt on our president. a reporter asked putin about those claims. >> i would like to add something to that. >> i was an up tell jones officer myself -- i was an intelligence officer myself. and i do know how dossiers are made up. i did hear those rumors that we allegedly collected compromising material on mr. trump when he was in moscow. let me tell you this, when president trump was in moscow, i done even know he was in moscow. kennedy: chris wallace just

interviewed president putin. we'll play the he tire thing in a little bit and you don't want to miss a moment of it. edward lawrence is in washington with more. reporter: the backlash from republicans and democrats have been almost immediate after this. lawmakers would have liked to have seen the president and up to russian president vladimir putin. but president trump said putin denied meddling in the up s. elections even though there is mounting evidence to the contrary. the president added may not be solely at fault. president trump: i think we are all to blame. and we have a chance to do some great things, whether it's nuclear proliferation in terms of topping. that's probably the most of important thing we can be working on. reporter: that caused senator jeff flake to tweet this.

he said i never thought it would see the day where our american president would and on stage with the russian president and place blame on the united states for russian aggression. this is shameful. vladimir putin stoking the fires when he was asked why the american people should believe hip that his country was not involved in meddling in the u.s. elections. >> who is not to be believed. you can trust no one. where did you get this idea that president trump trusts me or i trust him? understand? the interests of the united states of america, and i defend the interests of the russian federation. reporter: right after the news conference president trump tweeting out a clarification. in part it said i have great confidence in my intelligence people. however, i also recognize in order to build a brighter future x can't exclusively focus on the past.

still republicans and democrats and members of his own administration would have liked to have seen the president take a harsher tone even though he took a softer tone while standing next to putin. kennedy: president trump's comments at the press conference drew swift condemnation from many members of his own party. including never trumper bob corker. >> anyone who dealt with putin knows the best way to deal with him is through strength. i felt like the president's comments made us look as a nation more like a pushover. kennedy: corker was joined in slamming the president by john mccain saying no president has ever abased himself more before a tyrant.

senator rand paul says everyone needs to calm down because there is an up side to opening a dialogue with the russians. >> we need to step back and ask our sells is it good to have an open conversation with our adversaries in in the worst part of the cold war kennedy had a direct line to khrushchev. we had an ambassador in russia even the years of stalin. so i think having open lines of communication is very important for avoiding war. that's what i would see this meeting as as renewing engagement and open lines of conversation. kennedy: did the president make the u.s. look like a big pushover? or is there a bigger point that we are all missing? joining me now california republican congressman dana rohrabacher. a lot of your colleagues on capitol hill from your own party are could be deming the president. what do you think about some of the reaction to the hell sib ski

summit? >> what we have got here are people who are just buying on to whatever is said that's negative about russia. we have had an unrelenting hostility by a group of of very powerful interest groups in our country and our government, unrelenting hostility pushing us towards more conflict, pushing against any attempt to have communication or finding anything mutually beneficial that we could do. this is wrong. the president is absolutely right in trying to find out if we can open a dialogue. cut this hostility. it could bring to us war if we don't watch out. and find ways. is there mutual benefit? some way we can do that? yeah. even putin said we should work together to defeat radical islam and nuclear proliferation. there are a number of things we can tart off with. but that's not going to satisfy

these people who want us to be in a hostile situation with russia today which i could say could eventually lead to war. kennedy: i understand that. there is something valuable in opening up a dialogue and opening up of markets and economies. that is completely valid. but there is a difference between being completely hostile and heading toward war and being so soft it boirsd on appeasement. -- borders on appeasement. when the president talks about the up s. intelligence agencies being less trustworthy than vladimir putin, i think it's okay to be sceptical. leaders in the united states deserve scepticism and rational pushback. i think you are seeing that today from a lot of people who have respect for and agree with the president and vote with hip most of of the time. but here they are saying some of

his comments require if nothing else some clarification. >> i disagree with your analysis. the bottom line is the president understands and i understand that by being critical, some of the maneuvers and moves by a very powerful clique within our law enforcement and cia. you have a powerful clique that politicized themselves. they call it deep state. well, it exists. there is no further evidence necessary than to say right before the president's going to meet with the president of russia, they have this indictment which is going to cause great harm to any open dialogue. kennedy: i thought the timing of that was very curious. i think that boils down to rod rosenstein and robert mueller. they were working in concert with each other to change the

president's agenda in russia and make sure this is on the front page. having said that -- i want you to respond to this specific point. i think there is a difference between dan coats and christopher wray and mike pop pay oh. you would agree they are vastly different than john brennan and james comey and james clapper. >> that's right. but they rely on the same embedded leftists that have been embedded by the very people you say there is a continues between. they have their people and they burrowed into the system. the intelligence services really say that the russians came in and that this was the hacking that was collusion? kennedy: no. >> between putin on our president? that's what was hinted at. kennedy: there is an important difference between russians

screwing around sowing chaos and those working on the trump campaign and the president colluding with them. the president has to make that plain. yes, russians were meddling, they were screwing around. >> i think the president made it very clear. made it very clear. the bottom line is we do some of these things ourselves. he mentioned that. the bottom line is, if you are talking about meddling in other people's elections. the russians did that, it's wrong. it's wrong when we do it. the fact is we do 10 times more meddling in other people's elections around the world than the russians do. we need to back away from that. that's what the president said. neither of us should be doing that. we ended up overthrowing the government of ukraine two years before there was going to be a free election in win yankovich would have gone the his butt

kicked out. but we were involved with the oligarchs and that led to this russian military action. kennedy: speak of that region. i am talking about the former president of georgia after chris wallace's interview. thank you, congressman rohrabacher. president trump's meeting with putin threw the media into all kind of chaos. anderson cooper called it disgraceful. chuck todd said the president's remarks will be seen as circumstantial evidence in the mueller probe. joining me for the full blow-by-blow. the author of "media madness," howard kurtz is back. what did you think of the reaction to the press conference today? waits an honest analysis? >> president trump gave his

detractors plenty ammunition at the press conference today. as is always the case. with appearing to side with the former kgb operative against his own intelligence agencies. the critics no matter what president trump does, he makes mistakes, they tend to overreact and fall into that trap. but the difference is, i heard a lot of conservatives, national review, weekly standard, voices on fox news and fox business, and newt gingrich tweeting, the most of serious mistake of his presidency. it cut across trump lines. kennedy: that's true. the president has to be mindful of how much ammunition will be used in the mid-term. if the republicans want to maintain control over the house

and senate, where do we go from here as far as the president correcting himself. and if he does clarify, he'll be on "hannity" tonight. if the president clarifies, will that be enough for some of the detractors inside and outside the republican party? >> for his fiercest detract tores no matter what he says will be enough. he was under a huge white hot spot light in helsinki. one of his own making. he wanted the summit. he wanted the world stage. i think it's kind of hard to come back from that. this is not about policy. he didn't give a lot to putin. and what we got from the summit is what we expected. but in that moment, i think the president had a serious misstep, and when he talked about both side going to claim, just a lot of conservatives who have been

against russia and its aggressiveness for decade found it hard to swallow. kennedy: it almost remind you of charlottesville response. we will bring you chris wallace's can cluesive interview with vladimir putin in its up tight. we'll get reaction from the former president of the country russia invade. he'll be here with reaction, coming up. ♪ [ coughs ] ♪ ♪ [ screams ] ♪ [ laughs ] ♪ whoa, whoa, whoa.

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kennedy: we are back with more on the trump-putin summit in helsinki. vladimir putin sat down for an interview with "fox news sunday's" chris wallace. here is the interview tonight entirety. chris: thank you for speaking with us. i'll get to some specifics of the summit in a moment. but let's begin with the big picture. president trump said in his news conference our relationship has never been worse, but that changed a few hours ago. how has the relationship, big

picture between the u.s. and russia changed today? >> primarily we should be grateful to our after and our aides who spent several months working with one another. and not just in the preparation for this summit, i am referring to the effort of our agencies across the board, who worked even in the very sensitive air yas yeahs for -- areas for russia and the united states. i refer to the counter-terrorism effort. talk with president trump we agree terrorism is a greater that he than it seemed at first. if something happens, terrorist attack using the weapons of mass destruction. if they get their hands on weapons of mass destruction.

it will have massive replycation. our agencies do establish cooperation in this area. a case in points to would be our cooperation in syria. although there are some understanding -- misunderstandings especially in terms of a broader picture. but this cooperation is going on, between the military, between the special services that is now a counter-terrorism effort in the general sense of the word. but in 2021, the new stark treaty is about to expire. what are we going to do next? i assured president trump that russia stand ready to extend the treaty and pro long it. but we have to agree on the specifics. we think they are not fully

compliant with the treaty. but we also discussed the iranian nuclear program. we discussed what we can do to improve the situation with north korea. i pointed out and i will point out again that i think president trump did a lot to settle this issue. but in order to achieve complete denuclearization of the peninsula, it will take international guarantees, and russia stands ready to make its contribution to the standard that will be necessary. so we can say on selfish use of crucial importance for us, we are starting to achieve some understanding which gives us sufficient grounds to say that something -- a lot of things change for the better.

chris: do you see the summit as a turning point, an end by the west in recent years to isolate russia? >> i think you will see for yourself, this effort failed and they were never bound to succeed. take a look at the scale and the fierce size of it. importance of it in terms of international security and the economy. the contribution to the global energy market. it's too big to be sanctioned and isolated. but the things that's unite us, the things that require our joint effort. it brings us to the idea that such attempts to fight one another should be ended and rather look for ways to address continues and the challenges.

how to overcome -- how to address the common considerations. i think this is the beginning of the path. this is a start. we did make a good start today. chris: one of the issues standing in the way of more progress are the allegations of russian interference in the u.s. election. you have repeatedly said and you said again today that this was not the action of the russian state. that fit was anything, it was patriotic russian individuals. i have here the indictment that was presented on friday from the special counsel, robert mueller that says that 12 members of russian military intelligence, the gru, and it talks specifically about units 26, 165, and 74, 455. they say -- you smile, let me

finish. they say these units were specifically involved in hacking into democratic party computers. stealing information and spreading it to the world to try to disrupt the american election. may i give this to you to look at, sir? >> answering your question with something a little bit different. let's look at it this way. people are talking about interference of russia with the election process in the united states. i mentioned this in 2. >2016 and iwant to state again h for your american listeners to listen to what i say. first of all, russia and the state has never interfered with

the internal affairs of the united states. let alone elections. chris: i have 12 names and it talks about specific units of the gru. is the gru not part of the russian state? >> i will get to it. have a little bit of patience and you will get a full answer to your question. interference with domestic affairs of the united states, if you really believe that someone acting from the russian territory could have influenced the united states and influenced the choice of millions of americans -- chris: i'm not asking about influence. i'm asking whether they tried. >> i'm about to answer. this was the first point i am trying to make. if you have the patience you will heart entire response.

i said this in 2016 and i said now, the idea was about hacking email accounts of a democratic candidate. was it reading effects or forgery effects. that's the point i was trying to make. was it a false information plan? no, it wasn't. the hackers have been discussed and i'll get back to it. bear with me for a moment. they hacked a certain email account and there was information about manipulation conducted within the democratic party to decline the process to favor one candidate. as far as i know the entire party literature resigned. they admitted the fact of their manipulation.

the manipulation of public opinion should stop and an apology should be made. instead of look for the responsible porty at fault. as i said in the press conference -- chris: may i just air, you are indicating that they stole real money, not counterfeit money. are you saying it's okay because of the fact they took from the dnc, from john podesta, it was their real email so it's okay to hack and spread this information out and interfere with the election? >> listen to me, please. the information that i am aware of -- there is nothing false by the. every single grain of it is true. the democratic leadership admitted it. if you don't like my answer you can give it to me straightaway and i'll keep silent. if you want americans to listen

to my opinion, just wait for a little bit. now for the specific accusations. first of all, special counsel mueller accused a certain private company in russia, the core area is the restaurant business. now this company hired american lawyers and defending its integrity and reputation in american courts. so far american court has not discovered any trace of interference whatsoever. do the americans know by the? now do the individuals from the indictment act? we have a treaty for a system in a criminal case. an existing treaty from 1999 to enforce. i referred an example of it.

chris: i'm not trying to interrupt. >> just let me finish. i will finish. why wouldn't special counsel mueller send us an official request within the framework of this agreement? our investigators will be acting in accordance with his treaty. they will question each individual that the american partners are suspected of something. why not a single request was filed? nobody sent us a formal letter. chris: i don't want to interrupt, and i want to have one question and move on to. >>er subjects. why do you think robert mueller issued this indictment three days before you and president trump met at the summit? >> i'm not interested in an

issue a single bit. that's intern political games of the united states. it does make the relationship between russia and the united states -- don't hold it hostage of this intern political struggle. it's quite clear to me that this is internal political struggle. and nothing to be proud of for american democracy to use such dirty methods. chris: do you think mr. mueller is trying to sabotage the relationship? >> i don't want to make any assessments about his operation. it is for congress that appointed him to do this. to assess his performance. and i think the court had some doubts about the procedure about appointing special counsel mueller to the post he now held. i think that american court now believes it was done with infringement of the american legislation.

but it's none of my business. chris: actually -- may i move on. >> they didn't use this procedure to address it. chris: i thought the news conference in my opinion was a bit curious. president trump spent more time criticizing the democrats and asking about the democratic server than he did in criticizing russia and the gru. there are many theories in the united states about why president trump is so reluctant to criticize you and i would like to ask about a couple of them. one is that you have something on him. compromise. the other is as a skilled politician and former kgb officer, you know how to play him. you use phrases like fake news and deep state. my question is, do you find

president trump easy to deal with? >> the first point i'm about to make is why did we talk about -- this is a surprise. was it worth going all the way to helsinki to just insult one another? it's not exactly the diplomatic center of the world. there is no need to go and metres nally if you just want to insult another person. we met to try to find a way to improve our relationship and not aggravate it and destroy it completely. the answer to do we have anything on them. we don't have anything on them. i don't want to insult president trump which i say this. and it may come as rude. but he announced that he'll run

for the presidency, he was of no interest for us. he was a rich person, but there are plenty of rich persons in the united states. he was in the construction business. he organized the beauty pang interest. -- he organized the beauty pageants. he necessity mentioned his political ambitions. imagine, we were visited by 500 businessmen. pretty much every one of them is an industrialist on a greater still than president trump. do we organize surveillance on each on every event. we don't enough resources or manpower to organize a total state of control. that's not part of our plan. and it's clear we did nothing of that kind against trump.

chris: i would like to ask you a couple figure questions about nato. if nato were to move to add either ukraine or georgia to the alliance, how will you respond? >> well, negatively. the situation around nato is going along those lines. i'm pretty clear -- i have a pretty clear understanding of how their decisions are made. but before the consent-based decisions are made on the organization-wide basis, there is an opportunity for bilateral contacts with the member states which was done like in poland and romania that station and deploy elements of the strategic defense of the united states.

for us it was a direct and immediate threat to our national security. instead of moving this struck a * toward our border for the threat, the reaction would be extremely negative. chris: secondly, there are two major nato exercise later this year. did you and president trump discuss those and did he give any indication as he did with chairman kim of north korea when he agreed to stop participating in war games. did he give any indication the u.s. might not participate in those two nato operations? >> we haven't brought that issue up. by the is a concern. they are in regions where they shouldn't be.

they increase the members to 10,000 people in cop plains to the treaty been russia and nato. we have to factor in. but we haven't mentioned it today with president trump. chris: i want to ask you about russia's involvement in syria. according to independent monitors, since the civil war began in 2011, more than half a million people have been killed and russia has bombed civilians in aleppo and guta. >> when there is a war going on, this is the worse thing that can happen for humankind. victims are inevitable. and there is always a question who is to blame. i think it's the terrorist groups who destabilized the

situation in the country. the isis, al-nusra and the like, they are the true culprits. that's the answer american military give us when they hit objects in and * or other countries. -- objects in afghanistan or other countries. in terms of syria, american aviation bombed the city of raqqa quite heavily. and they wouldn't discuss the humanitarian operation to be put in place. i hope we make flog this area. what i would like to be carried into life. chris: the u.n. commission investigating syria said it was deliberate targeting of civilians by russian pilots

flying su24 and 34 aircraft. >> all of it can be very [inaudible] but i just want to get back to raqqa. aircraft -- we can discuss both but should we also throw in raqqa for the pleasure? we should the take things out of the context and forget about others. shall we? chris: i don't think there is as much in raqqa as there was hundreds of thousands of people killed in aleppo and guta and the entire civil war. by some estimates, 20,000 children have been kid by the assad regime and his supporters in moscow. are they terrorists?

>> you are completely deceived and i'm sorry you don't know the real situation about syria. a huge proportion of the population of raqqa died. it was erased from the face of the earth it remind me of stalingrad in world war ii. the blame is on those individuals who take guidance from the terrorists and hold population as hostage. chris: at the g7 summit president trump reportedly told the other leaders that crimea might as well be russian because everybody there speaks russian. did he give you any indication that at some point he might recognize russia's annexation of

crimea, lift sanctions, or move to bring russia back into the g7, now the g8, all of which happens as a result of the annexation of crimea. >> i would like to make a correction. the joining of crimea is not an annexation. the democratic governance referendum and the people in crimea went for a referendum and voted for joining russia. if that is an even exation, what is democracy, then. secondly, we are aware of president trump's posture that crimea is part of ukraine. he told me this today. i responded with the word pretty much similar to what i said to you. and i think we should leave the

discussion of that. chris: we are running out of time anyway. let's move on. last year defense secretary mattis said that russia is the greatest threat, russia is the greatest threat to the united states, and he since made it clear an even greater threat than terrorism. in march you introduced a new generation of russian missiles qulawg you called an invincible missile you said that could evade all of our missile defenses, and you even released a video that showed the super missile flying over the united states and hitting florida very near where president trump's estate is at mar-a-lago. aren't you is today lating the arms race and aren't you being deliberately provocative? >> as far as the footage is

concerned, they do not specify the missile is about to hit the united states. you have to look at it more carefully. chris: it hits florida. >> it was not florida there was not a caption saying florida. never a caption florida. contract is * you can see it on a map. >> it was flying over. it can't be seen on the map. take a closer look. now i'm pretty sure i can give you [inaudible] not to be offensive -- an offensive weapon wasn't born out of nowhere. they were born out of a response of the unilateral withdrawal of

the united states from the abm treaty. that we are going to join the global missile system. we see no purpose for it. well the response our counterparts was that the united states designed this anti-missile defense system. it's not designed to be guide against you. in 2003, 2004, i think i mentioned one of those systems and there was no response from our american counterparts. what we did now is we just demonstrated we have means to overcome the system. it's just a negotiating item. i do hope that in terms of future stability we'll be able to find a solution for both side. and that applies to the imf

treaty and the intermediate and shorter-range missiles. chris: i would like to ask about the alleged i.m.f. violation. but i want to ask you three last questions about vladimir putin. when you first first elected in the year 2000. you were portrayed as a democratic reformer. you talked about the value of european culture, and you did not rule out becoming a part of nato. what happened? >> nothing changed about me. up the way i am. the way i was. i was elected president of the russian federation. and in this age your preferences, beliefs and actions toward life does not change that much. but we have to react to what is going on around us.

i will take the nato expansion to the east. when the soviet union was withdrawing troops from germany, we were told russians should know one thing, that nato would never extend beyond the german borders. in two ways it happened. nobody gives a damn about our posture. well, we didn't -- the united states withdrew from the treaty despite our request not to do it. all the requests were denied. examples abound. take events in yugoslavia. president yes ltsin was

completely against the conflict. the on way was to use force through the security council of the united nations. or take the application of u.s. legislation extraterritorial beyond its borders. it was not us who made these steps. you asked me about crimea and ukraine. it was not us who organized a military coup in the country that completely ignored the constitution it was not us who was giving spies on the city squares. it is not the way to deal with such issues. and what happened, happened exactly by our border. so nothing happened to me. what happened to you is what i want to know. what happened to the west? chris: you say nothing happened to you. domestically, not internationally. why is it so many of the people

that opposed vladimir putin end up dead or close to it. former russian spy and double agent sergei skripol. boris nepsol gunned down by the kremlin. the investigative reporter anna. why are so many opponent of putin attacked? >> all of us have plenty of political rifles. i'm sure president trump has plenty political rivals. chris: but they don't end up dead. >> haven't presidents been killed in the united states? has kennedy been killed in russia or the united states?

what happens between police and civil society and self ethnic groups? that's something that happens ownlt s. soil. -- happens on the u.s. soil. some of us have our own set of domestic problems. but going back to what happened in russia. yes we have crime. but at some extent, russia's statehood is maturing, and there are some side effects. and we persecute people responsible for these crimes. but since you mentioned the skripol case, we would like to get a document and evidence by the. but nobody gifts to us. it's the same thing as the accusations with mueller and

meddling into the election process in america. we heard two more people suffered from the same nerve agents. but i never heard the last names of these persons. who are they? chris: may i ask you one last question, sir? >> let us fuel this issue first. what kind of package, what kind of bought. what chemical formula. who got it? there are other reasons of death. maybe reasons within the united kingdom. but nobody wants to look into the issue. just the ungrounded accusations. why is it done this way. why our relationship should be made worse by this pretense. we have to build them with the u.k. as well. chris: one of the reasons you wanted to do this interview was so people in the united states

and the west could get a better understanding of the real man. you are often portrayed as a strong man, an autocrat, a person who is a symbol of russia's strength. are those fair characterizations of you, sir? >> i am not laying any claim to be a strongman like i'm being portrayed. but from the point of view of legal symbols, the flag, the hymn, all of them i am bowlize the country and for any country. anthem, the national flag, and the institution of the president, they portray russian values. and way it's ready to go for to build a relationship with such a great country as the united states. i mentioned the economy before and i mentioned back to

president trump. let's look at our market first. europeans sell hundreds, billions much dollars worth and. euros for services. the number for chain today is $67 billion. what about the united states. $12 billion for the united states and $5 billion worth of services. that's the direct result of this policy including the sanctions. the united states have driven up their companies from the russian market. so they left, and this vacuum was filled by their rivals, their competitors. some of them lost their investments. what was that for? we are interested in developing our relationship in the area of stability. strategic challenges, and any other challenges that we have.

i think today president trump made the first step in this direction. chris: mr. president, thank you. thank you for talking with us. >> thank you. kennedy: there you have it, "fox news sunday" chris wallace versus pution president vladimir putin. you can tell vladimir putin is used to having his way in interviews, but fortunately chris wallace pushed back. the former president of georgia, russia invaded georgia in 2008. how did you feel watching that interview? >> well be it's have much as it was for me. i met vladimir putin more than 30 times. he not only invaded my country but heavily intrude into my country's national elections. he planted fake news and fake information. and penetrated the systems.

and they went viral on the internet. actually they used all the same tricks they are using elsewhere. for me there is no -- but watching vladimir putin, it's putin at his worst which is putin that lies without thinking. but you can tell very well that he lies. only one hand he says i don't really know anything about it. then he reveals detailed knowledge of everything. he said, well, this is legitimate, the democratic party was doing that, so he wants the american public to thank him for that. i also see what he says. people in si -- in syria shoulde blamed for the fact they were destroyed. i remember look into his eyes and asked why the russian service was kidnapping people

from georgia territory. he said they are we are not kidnapping them. they are kidnapping themselves. kennedy: he was doing that with the russian nerve agent. >> i was sitting next to him when he was explaining it. he doesn't care about him. why would he do anything about him. and twhain realized, he knew every detail about that guy who was killed in england. and later investigations showed it was directly to the russians. nothing of this sort can take place without putin's express order. kennedy: no one is ever going to force him to admit what the russian state does. some of the murderous acts they undertake possibly at his direction. but you do say that putin is vulnerable. how is president trump best

equipped to take advantage of that vulnerability? >> it's ridiculous when he says we don't have enough resources to spy on people. but otherwise russia has sources. their economy is of the size of south korea. they say russia is too big to be sanctioned. that's not true. to the credit of the trump administration. after the congressional mandate they went beyond formal conscious tam man date and went to the oligarchs and hurt putin. i think the president didn't give on that one. that's important that sanctions are staying in place. when they say on crimea, he admitted president trump didn't give up any of the ground. that is what putin was counting on. i hope they also spoke about georgia.

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