now such interesting accents were added so that people would understand why cid jianpin suddenly, for example, wanted to go to the balkans specifically to serbia, not to some other country, and they mentioned montenegro, and i am sitting here and got confused, stop, in montenegro earlier everything was bought up to the roots by deripaska, so the chinese in deripaska bought everything back from the muscovites, or now there is deripaskin here, and here it is chinese-communist, and then we will make a coup. another aspect of marquis karabas. it is necessary to understand that what is happening in the modern world is in that including in the modern economy, it has a certain dynamic, and therefore, well, i don't think that chinese investment funds, they weigh less than a deka, one deripaska, huh, that is, although he has, of course, a huge credit to viktor fedorovych yanukovych, that he brought... here mr. manofort and contributed

to the signing of his contract with yanukovych at the time, but everything is not so bad in china, right? no, but i would now shake certain important points of the european union about this option. putin is generally interested in chaos, he does not care with whom to work for alternative dolchlen or lipen or with any leftists, stalinists, trotskyists. and which one what is the point of geopolitically destabilizing the balkans, in which the president of serbia is already in a slightly schizoid state every day, then he loves putin and is ready to put the tricolor on his forehead, then he shouts about the european path and let's join nato as soon as possible, because we are the last ones who are not protected in the balkans, but under such circumstances, what else can be played in the balkans, well, it's very simple, there is also bosnia and herzegovina. which consists of three

components from the serbian republika srpska, from the bosnian croats and from the bosnian muslims, well, there is a dodik there, and for example, if mr. milorad dodik, who is the president of the republika srpska , comes to sarajevo and says that guys, all your aspirations are to join the european union, they are chasing the cat, because i want to integrate into the eurozone. then this will be a very interesting moment against the background of what ursula funderlein, for example, has said about the enlargement of the european union, and that the eu should be effective in the number of more than 30, and without bosnia and herzegovina can reach more than 30, only at the expense of georgia, which is problematic in the current context, or at the expense of north macedonia, where there will be a second round of presidential elections, and obviously...

the current head of state will say goodbye to his chair and there will be some turbulence and there, so i will say that there will be various interesting things and they must all be watched. russia really plays like a chess player on several boards, and does it consistently enough, does it persistently enough, it's done, i would say, quite brazenly. i came up with a definition. the kremlin spring of 2024 because of what is happening, because indeed russia is on the offensive in many directions, sparing no resources, and one should not think that this is an offensive only in the military sense, no, it is an offensive in various spheres, which allows us to achieve success there accordingly , where russia definitely wants it. since you are talking about your term this kremlin spring, maybe you have already made some... calculations, how many will russia

have in one way or another in the european parliament after these elections? i think she won't to have a decisive majority there, but those who will tear their throats for russia, tear their vests under italian suits, they will, they are also in the current convocation of the european parliament, and about this, in fact, what has now been exposed... the channel, as it was called voice of europe there, yes, behind which medvedchuk and the medvedchukists stood, then in this sense nothing will change, and the alternative for germany and other political forces that love vladimir vladimirovich and in principle do not hide it very much is in the european parliament will be presented, it is the specifics of democracy as such, you see, you can be a eurosceptic and... prepare for

the european parliament, that’s what otaka is like, as boris yeltsin said, mr. yevgeny, the fact that russia has its agents, spies and so on everywhere, that’s already ... everyone sees, everyone understands, but the same story is with china, even recently, what we found out, the assistant of the deputy of the european parliament from the pro-russian alternative for germany, maximilian kra, is chinese, and it turned out that the person has been for 20 years with a hook lives in germany, a double agent, he first stated in germany that he was ready to work properly, to inform about events in china, and then it turned out that he was a double agent and... there are quite a lot of such stories in europe now: britain began to actively monitor, germany finds out who in them, who, why does china have such a powerful network, they are also conquering the world with their economy? you know, uh, the doctrine of the base

and the superstructure has not really been abolished by anyone. if they have the basis of their political system. the so-called socialist economy, then there will be socialist conquests to lie in their aspirations, so it is absolutely not surprising. china aspires to become the number one country in the world, due to the fact that chinese civilization has been developing for thousands of years, it does not have a conventional calendar until the day of birth. before the birthday of confucius and after the birthday of confucius, you see, they live for ages, and so they have developed their system and political, well, i would say, political influence for a very, very long time, so they will continue

to operate, well, i would said as actively as possible, and there is nothing surprising in the fact that they are looking for agents of influence, russia for... a vassal, not a partner, a vassal, and it should be realized that china therefore, for example, supports lukashenka a little so that he is not completely absorbed, because in him too there is a certain small chinese interest, it used to be more, now it is less, and accordingly china will try to play its own role to become the number one economy in the world and make it count. with him the maximum number of world leaders, do you expect china to change its position on the russo-ukrainian war and regarding ukraine, in particular, we understand their game for a long time in europe, it does not coincide with putin's aspirations, we

understand how putin and all russians are put in a stall, for example, by the force of siberia project, when they are simply shown who is here we have a hired rap and he has to dig for his money and pull it for us. cheap gas, but in the case of ukraine , we would be interested in sydzenpin not only knowing that arahamia reads and notes his books about the greatness of communist china, but that he has a long-term interest in supporting ukraine, well, at least in the peace formula, as we have heard so much about from our president. tell me, mr. roman, it's been a year since we appointed pavel rebikin as ambassador to china. and what? you see, you took the question off my tongue. have you seen any informational manifestations of our ambassador in china during this year? unfortunately no. so your question becomes rhetorical, what should we

do in order to, it seems, exclude and close our lists of international sponsors of war. from the general public in order to be able to look at them those who want and those who do not want, but despite this they remain, and i think that we still have many issues and the engine, for example, we have not resolved with china, there were also chinese investments, i think so , did not like the development of events, no, not the arrest of bogoslaev, i think it was somehow secondary to them, but that. the fact that there actually, well, how to say, they were moved away from influencing this enterprise, strategic for us, yes, sir - this unstable connection, but it was restored, yes, but you know that there are such

chinese-ukrainian there are many stories, c the people of zhytomyr will tell you this whole story, almost like an anecdote, how the chinese built a ring road, remember, and then they took it, folded it up and ran away without finishing it. her, so we have so much, well, you understand that building a ring road is one thing, but building a helicopter? hey, mr. yevgeny, thank you for everything you told us and explained to us, yevhen magda was with us, the executive director of the institute of world politics, mr. yevgeny started talking a little about technology, so to speak, and now we will show you, in a moment we have to say goodbye, but we have to to end our working day with some kind of... comforting shots, remember, motorcycles with nets welded on, anti-drone ones like that,

the russians came up with it, so they scaled their concept, and now they fence off oil depots with such nets, it doesn't work like that, it doesn't work like this this night showed, our good drones broke through such protection in two oil refineries. well , no matter what the fool is happy about, if only there were no such a fence, this is another cool video, this is about those sheds of tanks, they went to krasnohorivka on them, well, they were hung completely guys, that's why it was difficult for ordinary ukrainian drones to hit, then they hit not extraordinary ones, but our guys and girls thought, they tweaked something a little. arranged a drone for guidance, and it works, and this is only the beginning of improvements, we are waiting for further results,

by the way, about drones, about what is very necessary on the front, you are flying drones, i want to say that in your defense in the discussion with ivan varchenko , the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine himself, spoke, you know what he said, he said so, sirskyi said, the installation at the front tends to escalate when he spoke yesterday at ramstein, well... in a word he said what we were asking about, so syrian with you, syrian with me, and you i hope with our defenders on drones please on the air drones, donate 2 million , we need to collect, on this, roman and i say goodbye, we wish you a peaceful, safe day, take care of yourself, do not ignore the air alarm signals, you remember how terrible the previous night was for the whole country, and the monitoring the channels are already talking about the fact that in russia... there is some activity, so if the alarm sounds, be attentive, do not delay, go to

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a participant in the loudest special operations in the occupied territory of donetsk. region in particular, the intelligence officer contributed to the elimination of the commanders of the illegal armed formations of the dnr, arsen pavlov with the call sign motorola and mykhailo tolstyh with the call sign givi. chervinsky confirmed his participation in the operation to transfer to kyiv the militant volodymyr tsemakh, who could be involved in the boeing mh-17 crash in july 2014. in the summer of 2020, the intelligence officer led the operation to detain the wagnerites. chervinsky has been under arrest since april 25, 2023. the security service of ukraine accuses its ex-employee of an arbitrary operation with recruitment of russia. which pilot, which led to the shelling of the kanatove airfield in the kirovohrad region. roman chervinsky calls the case against him a political order. this is actually

such an extraordinary man, roman sherovinsky, the case against him in court is even more strange, and there are a lot of white spots in it, which his defender, mrs. lyudmila kusa, will help us understand. i congratulate you. and before talking about the essence of this case, i would like to ask you this: as a result of the shelling of the kanatove airfield , the commander of the military unit was killed, was 17 fighters were wounded and two fighters of the ukrainian air force were destroyed. in your opinion, someone should be held responsible for this, if so, why not roman? in my opinion, the russian federation should be responsible for all these actions. since february 24, 2022 , all our military and civilian facilities

have been subject to constant rocket attacks and bombardments. tens, hundreds of thousands of people, ukrainians, die. and the russian federation is responsible for this. military of the russian federation and directly military-political management that gives these orders. i believe that no ukrainian military man who defends this land should bear responsibility for the actions he takes within the framework of the law and which are aimed at protecting the homeland. my client acted solely within the scope of his authority and acted solely to protect the homeland. the very operation on the russian plane, its final goal was a russian plane, after receiving which, ukraine would be able to finalize it first. its planes, the last of which was released back in 1991, and secondly, it would provide direct allies a sample of this plane, this plane would be disassembled into tiny details, and we would

understand how and what russia builds into it, why it is important, russia is constantly waging wars, russia has been shelling syria since 2014, they own their planes and in general their military the field is constantly being refined and tweaked, and we have to get... access to it in order to win in the final version. mrs. lyudmila, roman chervinskyi was arrested a year ago, and the case is still not considered on its merits. explain why so and how strong you think the case is can it be delayed at all? in my opinion, the pre-trial investigation really lasted almost a year, the case is currently transferred to... the court in kirovohrad precisely in order to be considered already on the merits, but the long pre-trial investigation, which continued after the notification of suspicion to chervinskyi, pointed to

the fact that the investigators collected insufficient evidence before reporting the suspicion, so they received this evidence for another year, investigated, interviewed witnesses and so on, collected additional evidence. the case is now in court, i see unfortunately, i see the only purpose in this. that the fact that roman is planned to be taken into custody, and at the same time, as we have introduced criminal proceedings in ukraine to be considered for years, because the summoning of witnesses, who are almost all military personnel, is not such an easy matter, these people throughout ukraine protect the homeland and to gather them in court, to interrogate them, it will also be quite difficult. unfortunately, our predictions of the defense side in this process are such artificial detention and delay of proceedings. and by the way, regarding the witnesses we will talk with you later, but regarding detention, on april 19, as far as was

known at that time, the court did not extend the term of detention of roman chervinsky, but instead of releasing him, the colonel disappeared somewhere, tell us in more detail what happened then happened and why? i will tell you how we, the defenders, saw it from our side. preparatory court sessions in the case were held on april 12, 17, 18 and 19. the article that allows a court to detain a person without considering, let's say, the matter, is article 615, which stipulates that in case of impossibility of holding a preparatory meeting, a person can be considered as one whose term of detention has been extended . actually, the very moment that the court hearings were already held, that is... there was no impossibility of holding a preparatory court hearing, it was, the case had been in court since april 2, and the court during these days could hold this hearing and consider all

the questions, the very thought... was quite clear to us, and we believed that on april 19, because the client's precautionary sunset at night, he should be released, because this issue was not considered in this way. we were informed, and the activists who were present at this court session, which lasted 3 minutes, and the court itself informed us that the session will no longer take place, a break has been announced, at 6:05 p.m., we will inform you of the next date after the court session e. what is reflected in the court documents, after, after that, it is important, my colleagues, lawyers kostyantyn globo and andriy yosypov, they arrived at the court there and tried to get into the territory of the court, they they couldn't do it, it was right after the closing of the court session, its adjournment, no, they weren't allowed in, the kirovohrad court is threatened by a fence, sorry for the russianism, and there's even a little hole they tried to go through, it was

closed accordingly. that is, they did not even manage to enter the territory of the court, let alone enter the premises. we made the appropriate requests to the court that we are asking to extend the preparatory session, because we arrived at it, it was already 7 p.m. there, we made a written request via e-mail address with digital signatures, and i and my colleagues, but the court session was extended and did not take place, from which we concluded that roman should actually be released, but roman was received all this time in... a car of the convoy service under the court and somewhere only at 10 p.m. he was taken somewhere, where he was taken, at that time it was unclear, unknown to us, he was not actually released, as roman himself told, when the court session was held at 6 p.m., he was asked if it was possible to continue, he said , that without defenders of course not, and we did not have time then to arrive at the court after the air-raid alarm, the air-raid alarm sounded four times, actually

we were not informed that... the session was already continuing, we were somewhere at the entrance to the court, we did not have time to get into it, we arrived, the session was already over, roman says that after that, after the court said, well, that's it, we announce a break, the date will be later, after that roman was no longer brought to the court, he was there all this time in the convoy, in the convoy car, where should he go, late in the evening they actually gave the decision to the court that he should continue to be detained in custody, it is normal for him. was a shock, because no one even asked him: dear mr. romanu, do you want to ask to be detained for another two months? well, you didn't invite defense lawyers to the courtroom, well, you didn't bring in a free lawyer, the article is serious and the court should have done that, then you should at least ask the person, do you mind if we now automatically extend the term of detention for you, no, this was not done, and as reflected in the log of the court session, which has already been officially provided to us under the judge's signature, including, the court put...

to discuss the issue of whether it is possible to continue the session, roman hryhorovych said no, it is impossible, the prosecutor said it is impossible without defense attorneys, please consider the term of detention automatically extended , the court announced a break and left for the deliberation room, today is april 26, the court they still haven't come out of that conference room, they made a decision, but they still haven't come out of the conference room, they're still there, according to their official documents that they gave us. well, moreover, my colleague was in yesterday to the kirovohrad court, sorry, the day before yesterday, i read the case materials, the court noted that the court did not receive our notices that we are asking to extend the preparatory session, because something happened with their electronic system, that is why they did not receive them, they received them from late, that 's why we believe that some kind of falsification of documents continues, because it's not normal when the court sits in the waiting room for a week, at

least the decision about it. gives it out, hands it to my client's car, here, that's why situation, we started to call the police at night, to record that the person actually disappeared, that he was supposed to be released, but did not, on monday morning around 11:00 a.m. we received this court decision that he automatically remains in custody for another two months, and the court adjourned the hearing to may 25, may, a person is in custody, the hearing is postponed for more than a month for unknown reasons, and since then... we are now, first of all, appealing this court decision, now an appeal hearing is scheduled for april 30 regarding this decision, and secondly, we declare all these illegal actions to the relevant authorities, the state bureau of investigation and the supreme council of justice. can you explain to our viewers how this is allowed in...