education, courage and resilience. this coalition, it continues to hold the line. over the past two years, this contact group has demonstrated its unity, its influence, and its power. we make history and we changed history. this contact group includes 50, more than 50 members from all over the world, and we really eat. we have demonstrated once again that we can increase efforts, and the current meeting is no exception. 95 billion dollars was allocated to ukraine as part of security assistance, i am very proud of the leadership of the united states. i am indeed very happy to welcome the signing another one ukraine, israel and taiwan, which

he signed these days. yes, the usa is ready to send ukraine artillery installations, armored vehicles, patriot missiles, and other obligations, which were announced by president biden on wednesday. we also have an additional obligation of 6 billion dollars. to strengthen without to strengthen security in the country, we continue to receive security assistance packages throughout ukraine, we are trying to provide anti-drone equipment, as well as artillery ammunition, anti-aircraft missiles, ammunition. air, ground, also additional

spare parts today, we, this week , just announced the unwavering support of the united states for ukraine. our partners are doing a lot, and they continue to do so. our partners gave ukraine what it asked for, mostly with tanks. 155 155 caliber shells, as well as armored vehicles and other installations that help ukraine fight for its sovereignty. we know that it was this help that saved many ukrainian lives. for two years, this contact group held its line, and that's why this coalition, it continues to be steadfast. and we will not give

back, we will not lose. together, we will continue to work in two directions: first, to understand and respond to the needs that ukraine has on the battlefield, as well as to strategically build up the ukrainian armed forces and our armed forces in order to respond to the needs that may be in the near future and the distant future. in... ukraine is in dire need of air defense systems to cover its skies, so this was our top priority. we really help ukraine to build a powerful system, a powerful one self-sufficient defense system. that is why we are now trying to create, we created new coalitions that tried to strengthen ukrainian.

effort, to strengthen its air defense, artillery sector, security in maritime space, in cyberspace, in demining and in the provision of drones, i really thank all the participants who have just joined this coalition today, when we met for the first time. in this format, i said that putin never thought that he would not succeed in kyiv in three days, but i also said that that this coalition, it reflects that the world has changed, and that today the countries of good will are gathered and they understand what freedom now means for ukraine, for europe, for the united states. and for the whole world.

the outcome of the war in ukraine will determine the trajectory of our time. if putin wins, we know that... the security consequences will be huge and global, we will know, we know what the consequences will be for europe, as president biden said, russia will not stop in ukraine if the kremlin has its way, if putin is with his succeeds in the imperial war, he will not stop there, his appetites will only grow, so we have to... ensure lasting peace for our children, for our grandchildren. putin's war, it is based on the idea that there is no responsibility or rules, there is only his desire, and therefore, we must, we must stay together, we know

what is coming, and as we have already seen today, it is quite clear to us . what has this war turned into. and now i will turn the floor over to general brown. thank you, mr. minister, i congratulate you. so, now such a challenge. a story can reflect what is inside us. we, we know what the marshal was given for, actually. nobel. award for the nobel peace prize, and he just mentioned in his speech that military power is extremely, very important, but it is very important that there is coherence and coherence in our joint efforts, and i am sure that now we all clearly understand

what is necessary to be together and maintain unity, so international cooperation, military power, are now more decisive than ever. this is the cornerstone the cornerstone of our initiative to help ukraine preserve its sovereignty. today we held another meeting of the contact group on the defense of ukraine. thank you to mr. oscin for his leadership for the participants of these meetings for two years. i thank the minister of the mayor and general silsky, who joined us today. thank you for your steadfast leadership and your contributions. on the battlefield, thank you to all those who joined today for your work, for your efforts in helping ukraine. yes, russia's war in ukraine is undermining it rule of law, rights, and now virtually

no country can feel 100% safe. as the marshal said, yes, military power, in this case we are talking about ukraine, it can for... it is very important for it to repel unprovoked enemy actions, it is very important for it to feel someone, someone, who would be for it behind this support, and we were and will be this support, because we understand that now is a challenge to world security, the north atlantic alliance and the united states, in particular. now we are not talking about lack of will, we are talking about problems with logistics and supplies. ukrainian soldiers, they are now continuing. to support their efforts, they support the defense of ukraine, paying a huge price for it, expecting what we promised, and now russia, it is gradually strengthening its troops, they want to further

bite off ukrainian lands piece by piece. we, we know that hope, as we say in america, that hope and hopes are sometimes not enough, ukraine. needs armor and artillery, and so right now we should feel that urgency, there were recent announcements by our partners to provide what ukraine so lacks, and today the president of ukraine spoke about what ukraine needs, we are providing another billion dollar package for ukraine, this package includes new capacities, ammunition, shells, missiles, armored vehicles and critical air defense systems, as the president just mentioned, we are now trying to destroy the plan for a long-term war in ukraine. the meeting of this group is extremely important, and we

understand how much we can set the course of action that builds the story, it's not just about ukraine, it's about ukraine. model of ukraine, after all, if russia wins, the echoes of this will be felt all over the world, far from ukraine, so ukraine is leading here. it fights for us, it acts preemptively for us, and therefore we cannot just stand aside now, george marshall knew that too, he knew that it is very important to collectively direct our efforts for peace and security, for the sake of international order, for that for all countries, because we want the rule of law, we we want democracy and freedom. thank you, i am ready to answer your questions.

associated press representative. mr. minister. today , president zelensky clearly said that ukrainians need air defense systems, not just missiles for them. please tell me if there is any concrete progress that has been made today on this clear announcement by the president. general brown i have another topic for you here regarding the gas sector, there are many representatives of various security agencies, they are deeply concerned about the actual security in the region, please tell me whether have there been any definite decisions on the situation in the gaza strip, in general, on the conflict in the region, please tell me about that, thank you very much for the... question, so when we talk about the patriot systems and actually what we

can get out of our zaghashniki, then all this remains in the near future, we can only hope that we will be able to make another statement, because all countries are thinking about it, they understand what is necessary for this, so we have to work in this direction, work with our.. colleagues in order to actually find these additional ones air defense systems that ukraine needs. good evening, we are from ukraine. welcome to the espresso channel. today in the war and weapons program we will talk about weapons, but in a somewhat unusual dimension, we will talk about the potential and opportunities of society. if it is about ukraine, or about the population, if it is about enemy russia, as the main and extremely important component of the war. it is

not only about the amount of mobilization resources, but about what forces, motives, approaches, and concepts are used by the states to resist and win the war. this is actually about sustainability of our society against the russian horde, which goes to the front not only under coercion, but also for money, and sometimes for the desire that ukraine and you and i... do not exist, so about the enemy and our systems and whether civilization can and democracy to give a worthy rebuttal to these authoritarian regimes with their invented and tried-and-tested hybrid technologies for establishing a new world order. this is what we will talk about with our professional experts in the war and weapons program. my name is serhiy zgurets, the director of the information and consulting company defense express, which is now jointly with the channel... presso aims to highlight the most relevant trends in the field of security and defense. and now we

are joined by oleksandr shulga, the head of the institute of conflict studies and analysis of russia, which is an informal association of sociologists, analysts, and researchers who study russia. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. congratulations, i just want to clarify that now it is already formal, we are also registered as a public organization. well, then i will say, and i will also then add, that, relatively speaking, you studied russia was there not only theoretically, but they were mortarmen, fought in the armed forces and saw what the enemy does on the battlefield, how he acts, and this is probably also an important experience to understand the enemy. and i would like to start our conversation with whether there are differences in assessments of the russian state before the large-scale... invasion and now after several years of war, what has changed in the enemy and what we did not

take into account in the behavior, intentions, and moods of the russian population in the conditions war? first of all, we did not study russia deeply, comprehensively before the beginning of the war in 14th year, and even more so, it was like this... it was everyone's account, not only the powers that were changing, but also us and you, i mean scientists, experts, we really lived in such, you know, the world of illusion that we understand the russians, we basically lived in the same country, well, they can be superior, they can be so gullible, if in simple language, but they do not pose a threat, all these e statements in and on

even the beginning of the division of the soviet union in order to... crimea will answer for crimea it’s ours in general and so on, we thought that it ’s okay, there’s nothing wrong with that, they’ll talk and it won’t go any further, but even after the 14th year, when crimea was already annexed, when part of the territory in donbas was annexed, everything for one thing, we did not manage to comprehensively study russia, and this is really us, this is our first very serious recalculation, on the other hand, the russians studied. ukrainian society was studied up to and including the 13th year and after the 14th, but the plus point is that, despite everything, they did not take into account, they did not understood the ukrainian society, and it was a formal study, and in fact , these conclusions about ukrainian society, its readiness to fight, were constantly adjusted, and in fact, only

what the superiors wanted to see reached the top, in fact , the conclusions were directly opposite to ours. chaos, democratic principles, they took the willingness to fight for their independence as a weakness, that is, it is also a plus, they studied, we did not study and did not see the threat, they studied, but they did not want to see real results, what concerns russian society now and what we have to understand with you and what we constantly prove to our western partners, the problem of the russian-ukrainian war and... the problem of russia for ukraine and the world, it is not exhausted by the putin regime, it, it is rooted in deep, in deep such immanent features of russian society. changing putin's surname to mishustin or to patrushev or to sobyanin

will not bring anything radically new, it will not make ukrainians and others, neighbors of russia, feel the federation is completely safe, because russia is a predictable and non-aggressive country. unfortunately, this will not happen. you and i actually returned to russia, as it was known all the years of its existence, in one form or another, as a threat. and accordingly, to this, we, as ukrainian society and as a state, and our partners in the european union and not only, have to, well,... have to accept this, this train of the 90s, this raid, this unnatural situation in which was russia, it has finally passed and we will return, everything has returned to its circle, russia there is a threat mr. oleksandr, i would like to assess one thing based on your experience, now the russian military-political leadership is introducing a kind of new

social contract, that is, i had the opportunity to see certain... research by russians there, and they say that the essence of this of the new treaty should be for the society or the population of the russian federation to perceive the war as an everyday thing, that it is a normal component, and to limit the impact of the war on the so-called demobilized population, that is, in fact, the population that does not want anything to sacrifice, but it should not be touched, the war should remain... such a direction that does not affect the population of the russian federation, and in this way it is possible to prepare the conditions for a long-term war of attrition without particular risks for the russian political regime. i would like to ask you how effective such a concept is, how

viable it is, whether we should perceive it as a new systemic risk, like this new society in general. contract, although i do not quite agree that it is so public contract, how should we treat it in these current realities? yes, this is a very multidimensional question, you asked it, it is true, this is the main dilemma of the russian regime, that is, for their survival, they have, they have to maintain this eternal war, and they cannot go back even on february 23, 24, 22 year, but at the same time they have to adhere to that social contract that they introduced themselves, er, starting from there. the beginning of the 2000s, that is, you do not get involved in politics, we support you with such a high standard of living. after the 14th year, they also

they raised the stakes, i mean the regime, that is, they said, we are adding a little bit of greatness to you, and you actually do not feel it either, this is after the annexation of crimea, the beginning, the creeping occupation and the attempt to occupy donbas, but after the beginning of the full scale. of the invasion, they actually this social contract, which they themselves introduced and violated, that is, they, that is, the population does not get involved in politics, it observes its part of the contract, but life deteriorates, and not just life deteriorates, but this very population is sent to die, sent, mobilized forcibly and sent, well, in fact... to the trenches, and this is on the one hand, on the other hand, we need this population, because the blitzkrieg did not

work, it has to be motivated somehow, in addition to economic incentives, we need some incentives, well , ideological, not material, and here is this dilemma, this svo, so-called, actually puts people in prison for the war, on the other hand, how do you... logically motivate people to go to some svo, and we really see it in our research, we conduct research in russia on an ongoing basis, we of course, we ask questions about the perception of the war by the russians and their understanding of the goals of this war, and here the russians really have such a dissonance, because we constantly see this dilemma of russian propaganda, the russian regime and the evolution of russian propaganda and even zriot. this is, you know, the nuclear electorate, which is there for putin and for victory, they are confused about why, well, this, it

all started, as a rule, it boils down to, well, we stand against the west, the west, but this dilemma, i.e. on the one hand, it is svo, on the other side, this is a people's war, for the survival of russia, we really see it, and the regime is trying to balance between the material ones. e-e incentives e-e to participate in the war and insufficient material incentives alone. and you mentioned research on the territory of the russian federation, you them, i consider them quite unique, because you are looking for such ways of obtaining information, data that other social services, in particular from ukraine , cannot do. you made data based on the results of the 22nd year, you had an intention. plan to assess the history and state of russian society according to according to the results of the 23rd year, did you manage to do it according to the results of the 23rd year and what

are the changes that are now so noticeable that you can say about them? well, first of all , what did you start your question with, regarding the new normality, the new routine, war as a norm, the routinization of war, this really happened and... it really affects the stability of the regime on the one hand, because when we were asked at the end of the 22nd year and they asked the russians, name what worries you first of all, it was a war, well, they called it svo, war, it doesn't matter, it's true that 50% of the first elections were called war without thinking, and economic problems were called twice less often, now during these one and a half years of our observations. numbers are diametrically opposed, economic problems came to the fore, a request to putin, as the elected

president, to solve the economic and financial problems of russians came to the fore, the successful completion of the so-called svo is called, not first of all, it is one of the top problems, tasks for putin, regarding their solution, and we see that... the regime also understands this, they also have their studies, of course, and they are now also trying to solve this question, how, if on the one hand there are economic problems, there is a deterioration in the financial condition of the russians, on the other hand, the war is already cannot be an excuse for these problems, how to explain to the russians what must be tolerated, and we see that another factor is used, the factor of terrorist attacks, the factor of fear. and that the war is coming to your home. stepping into city holl is just one of the first steps. more than 250,000 times this month. since this topic surfaced in

of the russian media, that is, you and i, exactly a month passed before this terrorist attack, it was a top-five topic and top-five term in the russian media for these months, for these weeks, only these serious floods and full the incompetence, as always, of the russian authorities in their decision, it balanced a little. discourse and what was discussed in the russian media sphere, but nevertheless we see that practically every day the russians reported that they had exposed this group, this group was exposed, icons with explosives from european countries, which of course were stuffed in ukraine, today in volgograd, it seems, or so in volgograd, as if another 17-year-old terrorists... were exposed and

so on and so on, that is, now the russian regime is trying to find an answer to the fact that on the one hand yes, the war - routinized, war as the norm, but on the other hand, how then to explain why life worsens, if everything is according to plan, if we win, if the west is afraid of us, then why do we live so badly then, and here they return to 99-2000 years before the terrorism factor and map, sir? then the question arises whether this whole story is related to the internal tightening of the nuts due to the threat of domestic terrorism, or whether it somehow affects the mood of the russian elites, relatively speaking, if we are talking about such a category, that is, either the russian leader of the clan leadership, or whether there is a certain tension there , because linguistically speaking, it seems that last year you said that you should not hope for any changes there or against...

in which direction is this situation breaking down in the elites now, because why am i asking, after the riot of beauty there was silence, there were reports from yesterday or the day before yesterday that they had arrested one of the deputy ministers of defense there, and i think that this is a sign of what, what trend, because it is not for nothing, they must have taken on shoigu's entourage, are there any nuances? which we should know, take into account, well here... two important factors, three, which still leave me pessimistic that this is some such significant split, first, we still have little information, we remember when they appeared this information, you know, is pure information, has a connotation, her assessment, and some emotional coloring, but when the information just appeared that this timur ivanov was the minister of defense,

and... they were detained, it was pure information, that is, everyone was in a stupor, i mean the russian propaganda forces there, in general , the russian people, they did not understand how to present it, that is, he was simply detained, until it is clear, he is being taken here and there, that's all, now it is not clear how they will promote it, and so far even we see only assumptions from different sides, but you don't know such a general line, this is the first, that is, we need more information, more... what narratives will be chosen by russian propaganda, secondly, putin, so to speak, has been re-elected, it is his prerogative to propose a new composition of the government and a new, new heads of these departments, respectively , in principle, this can be presented as a personnel planned rotation and send shoigu to some dsns, their analogue, somewhere else, and

the third, and very important position, that is, what exactly did this timur ivanok do, he was engaged in construction, construction in all ages and everyone countries was a very sweet position, and it's really without exaggeration billions of dollars, he was already involved in, so to speak , reconstruction in the occupied territories, including mariupol and not only, quartering soldiers, these are billions, billions of dollars that... well, it’s actually not counted, you can say, well, the war, here the coefficients are increased, it’s a state secret, so for now, i wouldn’t call it directly a split of the elites and something very significant, we need more information, and again, if wanted to replace shoi- shoigu, in principle, just the reason, i.e. re-election...