the answer beyond the limits of publicity for you, are all these questions that you had left, and in general, how are you, how, has your attitude towards zelensky changed during these last five years? look, well, first of all , regarding the first question to serhiy, volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi did not give a single uncomfortable interview during his entire term of office, not a single one, and this was a topic that started during his election campaign, zelenskyi's entourage , which allowed him to give several interviews loyal to him so-called journalists, well, there is a big interview with gordon, clearly complimentary, which would not harm the numbers, on the contrary, these numbers increased, the rating was already quite high before the elections, fueled by the series servant of the people, the film and tv channel 1+1, rotation.. .

with familiarity, trust, the ability to give positive emotions, quite correct scripted rhetoric that every ukrainian, probably you and i, would like to implement , including globally, regarding justice, the obligations of people's deputies, the president, anti-corruption laws, rule of law, well everything that was actually voiced in such a simple language in this series, it was all actually correct, that's why many people voted. but it happened as it happened, i think zelenskyy had no idea that he would have to be the president of a full-scale warring country that was attacked by a full-scale russian federation, and over the years he has really undergone some changes, there was once a very apt phrase about that sooner or later, depending on his personal qualities, every president of ukraine must become a nationalist, and so do i there were such hopes. in 2022 and at the beginning

of 2023, but at the moment, given the actions that do not take place by listening to the opinion of civil society, anti-corruption journalists, western partners, result in the fact that this opinion has returned to what it was in 2018-19, when the rumors first started, and then already when zelenskyi was swamped. regarding legitimacy or illegitimacy, will volodymyr zelenskyi lose his powers after may 20, 2024, we discussed this issue with former judges on my youtube of the constitutional court live on the air

, the constitution, friends, you should understand is higher than the law on martial law, that is, there is a martial law regime, and it actually dictates to us at the moment what we cannot do about... elections, however, there is a constitution that obliges forces us to elect a new head of state, due to the fact that his term has already been suspended, such an opinion was heard, however, i will tell you frankly, even from the point of view of the voting process, if there was one, and this norm is written in the law on martial law, if suddenly such the decision was made and many were saying listen look at our country in the 14th year, and the election of this ... dent took place at a time when we were already at war, and not at full scale, but the wars voted, these are completely different, different stories, many soldiers now in trenches, many people left the country, all this should be organized in a democratic way, the elections were now, in my opinion, held properly, it is impossible, unfortunately, that is why i would really like elections, just like, probably, the lion's share of our people. ..

scribes and spectators, however, it is impossible to carry out now, and i think that it will be in russia's hands, if there will be any political cataclysms, you can imagine this pre-election process, this whole wave of black pr, commissioned articles and a television marathon, which will completely forget about the war and will not only feed us with good news, but will feed us even more with volodymyr oleksandrovich, that is why i think that it is necessary... the moment of the question does not stand, let's end the war, win it, and then we will ask everyone who was negatively involved in this war among the political leadership, our daddies are waiting, the end of the war, well, i think everything will become clear there with the next president, including who he will be, and regarding the numbers, my colleague said, in fact, there really are no global numbers from...

rating, well, global - it is a decline and a global rating, but nevertheless, even a person who is not currently swamped, well, if he does not declare a desire, an intention'. to prepare even imaginatively, but now i am talking about valery zaluzhny, he is ahead of zelensky in all possible variations, rounds, and therefore this suggests that the numbers they still fall, and the television marathon does not help this, i will sum up about the 5 years of the presidency, here we should probably talk more on our airwaves, but there were a number of positive things, in my opinion, related to the change. certain directions of the soviet system and old politicians, political approaches that accompanied certain ministries, we have new ministries, we have become an even more digital country, changes have also taken place in

the army, be that as it may, and even the dismissal of a meritorious person is a negative factor, however, believe me, the young teams are 25 years old, who are now in the of our army, and literally today there was an interview with one of the sergeants, the senior sergeant of the 47th rotobl, we were just discussing this, 25-30 years old, the average age of commanders in their brigade, and i hear that everywhere, and it’s cool, the army is also changing and becoming younger, and the soviet atavistic things are leaving the army, it’s about the reform of the army, about anti-corruption... and judicial reform, they have failed, they have simply failed, and there is no political will for this , the personal will of president zelensky and his entourage, and andriy yermak in the list of the 100 most influential people of 2024, in my opinion,

as a flag of zelensky's ineffectiveness and spinelessness in the position of a person who makes changes in the country. we will talk separately, you mentioned the numbers, the trust rating, you, kateryna, mentioned it, let's look at the ratings, results, or rather polls conducted by the razumkov center, the level of public trust in the president of ukraine has decreased significantly recently, in march 24- it is 59%, although it was still in january. 64%. a year ago about his trust in 83% of the respondents declared that the president, that is , in principle, we have a serious drop in the rating of or trust in president zelenskyi. similar data were recently published

by the rating sociological group. the level of approval of the activity of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, has decreased to 63%, although as recently as february 23rd it was 91. and this is actually, as i said, evidenced by the results of the survey of the sociological group rating, well, of course , rating by rating, and even more so during the war it is debatable to what extent this rating covers the reference groups that are there fell under this sociological survey, but since we are remembering the fifth anniversary of this pre-election battle between zelenskyi and poroshenko at the olympic stadium, i want to remind you that zelenskyy asked poroshenko 10 questions then, i think that now, in principle, he would zelensky should answer them, it is very short, i will remind you what

zelensky asked poroshenko, first, why no one is sitting for ilovesk and debaltseve, second, why six years later, why six years later we still do not know killers on... the maidan third, would you like to take part in the experiment and try to live on a pension of uah 1,500 at least for a month? fourth: how much money do you still need to take from the country's budget in order to feed yourself? fifth, why are supporters of yanukovych not buried? sixth, why do all your people have both hands, i mean they steal and why didn't he cut off their hands. seventh: volunteer patriots ended up in prisons because they are a threat to you. eighth, do you remember such a word as? lustration, ninth, what is your share of illegal amber mining, tenth: if you have to appear before the court, will you say that this is revenge or political persecution, well, actually, it’s not surprising, but half of the questions, probably, candidate

zelenskyi could ask president zelenskyi, and probably he would did not find an answer to these questions, yanina already mentioned that the head of the office... of the president of ukraine andriy yermak became the only ukrainian to be included in the top 100 most influential people in the world, on the cover there is yulia navalna, inside it. rating, andriy yermak, the publication calls yermak a person who played a central role in ensuring the work of the ukrainian government after the start of a large-scale war, after a full-scale invasion, he carried zelensky's message to the world, creating a strong network of friends of ukraine, from the west to the global south, uniting them around issues , from sanctions to the environment, the publication notes. katrina, there is a lot of talk about yermak. how and in what status he generally manages the state and about his

powers, about his omnipotence, and about how he is one of the leaders of the state, despite the fact that he did not run an election campaign, no one voted for him, but it so happened that he manages the office of the president of ukraine and is one of the central figures, and now in general, i think that volodymyr zelensky should be stressed, because... well, he is not in the rating of the hundred most influential world leaders according to the magazine, but yermak is, what does this mean? and yermak is there, and here you can also joke that, well , at least yermak is on this list, he really is an influential person, unlike ms. navalny, who is such a big question, by the way, about her, well, i talked to several of my journalist colleagues there, who are citizens of russia, of course they work there not in russia and i respect them. that's why i was wondering if they really see in yulia navalny, well, some kind of leader and how they

see her in general, well, of course, this is not only for ukrainians, it is probably a shock, such a cover and such as how influence is revealed, but what about mr. yermaka, well, i also addressed podolyak live on the air with the fact that radio liberty has a request for interviews with zelensky and yarmak, and with dasha zarivnaya, i also remarked during the interview. about the fact that somehow i would like to talk to mr. yarmak, he has, in addition to an interview with moseichuk or conversations, i don't know whether it is an interview, to call it correctly, there is nothing, there are a lot of questions, and i want, once again , to return to the fact that these conversations are uncomfortable, there are not many of them, in fact, but still, it is probably a manifestation of a certain power and a certain status to have an uncomfortable conversation with journalists, whom you definitely do not you can to influence there, and this is a very necessary conversation, especially, maybe the reason will be to get into this such a respectable rating, and

really, probably, well, we all see it from different facts, that the influence is so large-scale, it is very interesting, whether it will become a certain trigger , as a trigger, as you noted for president zelenskyi, because andriy yermak is one of the few main managers of the president, whom he trusts, really a lot depends on him. diplomatic issues, in particular, there is formally zero responsibility, and it can confuses and confuses many in ukraine, but how these mechanisms are all happening, and who does he see himself in this in general, there now in the management of some issues and what is his relationship to this, i would also like to ask him directly, so again, maybe he will come out, after all, he will agree to give an interview to at least a few ukrainian journalists there, from how many publications there, who will be able to ask him good questions. thank you,

katerina. yanina, how do you perceive yeermak's role in the fate, in the modern fate of zelenskyi. well, one could joke, say that zelensky's era is ending, yermak's era is beginning, although for me, both yermak and zelensky, well, they are political partners in this situation, they rule the state. duo, this is a duo that governs the state, and i remember this anecdote that was constantly going around during the presidency of kuchma, who kuchma works for, under tabachnik, he is the president of ukraine under the head or administration of president tabachenko, then tabachnik was in the first, in the first year of the presidency kuchmi in the 94th year, demonstrated his omnipotence, such as now... yermak demonstrates. yermak is the number one person in

the country for decision-making in the judicial sector, the sector, the law enforcement sector and often in the diplomatic sector. we have more than once conducted an investigation where we talked about disruptions in operations related to the intelligence option, with... the option of our soldiers working in the ato zone, and then the oos, and i know for sure that... decisions that would never were not made during the tenure of the previous government, but were pushed during the tenure of this government, in particular these peaceful, desires to move away from the demarcation line, when it was necessary to build factories and try to make a bridgehead, which is not

what, given our efforts and help. even then, in order to build fortifications and protect not only avdiivka, but where the right sector and vovki davinchii stood strong, but also kyiv, near bucha, irpin, chornobyl station and everything else. all this was not done, and the reason why i mentioned it is because the person who is now on your screens is one of those bridges, bridges of negotiations with the russian side. on which, in my opinion, a lot of volodymyr's hopes rested zelensky, and the hope that the war will be ended and it will be possible to reach an agreement somewhere in the middle, this was now a quote, it was from the first days of his election campaign, and it lasted quite a long time, i think, until february,

february 22, 2024, when the hopes... when the promises and convictions of the representatives of the negotiation group, which included andrii yarmak all the time, given his background, who does not know, read on him and his family, and filled in the fact that everything was agreed and there will be no war, but the war has happened. in my opinion, it is a sign of treason, and part of the people involved in the persuasion and the army. and themselves, and above all, in my opinion, the people, have to sit down, and they will sit down, they will sit down, you will see if they run away not far, so in my opinion, this person is unfortunately, at the moment, in my opinion, very and very dangerous, and the form in which andriy yermak is currently acting is very, in my opinion,

a subtle psychological form of applying methods to volodymyr oleksandro. which are such negative shortcomings of his personality, therefore what's in the room, i'll say now, metaphorically speaking, there must be an adult in the room, and if you find that adult who gives you the opportunity to have primacy, but makes a lot of decisions that you're either not capable of or don't know which to make, or you trust him and then voice him as your own, then... then you keep him close, and a plus, when that adult knows about all your problems, and defeats and mistakes, which, among other things, cost the lives of many people who did not have time to stand up protect yourself and your children, during, during the onset

the entry of russian troops into the territory, in particular the kyiv region, then believe me... you will hold on to him even more tightly, because otherwise you are already a political corpse, and how can you steer a boat in which there is an adult who supported you in everything along this path and together with you, a lot of things have been lost in words, so podolyak, by the way, is the same person close to yermak who was brought by him, and summarizing, i will tell you about a trend that will tell you a lot about a lot, at the end of the answer to this question , serhiy, notice, for the last ones for two years, most of the personnel changes of the most influential people in our country were made based on how they got to one or another position, all these people were not conducted by the ermak and were not controlled by the ermak. i will tell you more, there is a part of people

who could not help matters of national security protection and national defense important for the country. talk with the head of the president's office purely on clerical, clerical, managerial matters, why? well , because he just had them in mind, and they should have been waiting for him in the reception room, but not to deal with those things important to the warring country, which are assigned to them, so now there are very few left who were not appointed by yarmak. there are other questions, who is the boss in this country and on whom does the reception depend? certain decisions, i think my short , rather abstract, metaphorical speech is clear to you, well, we remember what happened during wagnergate, when... "burba came to the president's office, he was received there by a fair, that is were not allowed to see zelenskyi, as i understand it, and accepted these reports, and then,

then this whole story happened with the surrender of the wagnerites in belarus, when their whole special operation was thwarted, we know that in principle there is no final point in this story, but in the context of what wagner then did in... ukraine during a large-scale invasion, it would still be worthwhile to put an end to this story, because there are many questions, there are no answers, we see how sergiya, i can say a few words about the fact that you are now in doubt, because you were one of those journalists who published this information about vagne, see, well, why me sergey, thank you for actually bringing up this topic, because now there is a trial of the hero, in my opinion, of ukraine, roman chervinsky, i know that espressoo also broadcasts and covers these trials, but recently there was a trial in kropyvnytskyi, see the story under called wagner gate was a litmus test for me

, the person in general, the name andriy yermak, we were not the ones who covered it, we were the holders of these secret documents, in which it was written in black and white that the special operation was with... collapsed by decision the highest political command of the country, and this decision was canceled by andriy yarmak, who gave this instruction in view of the statements of mr. borba, the former head of intelligence, so i held these papers in my hands and read the entire description before making this decision about the description of the lightning, lightning operation, which it seems to me, well, in the last... 10 years, the world has not seen in view of the very subtle psychological process of recruiting these militants, or even raising a plane and

tracking them, then it's all in a hurry, because why? because it was possible to agree, it would broke the agreements with the dictators and his henchmen, and the trust in lukashenka, common, to trust... lukashenka at a certain moment, believing that he can be an intermediary chain between us and putin, well, this is a complete delusion, what were they thinking, in what world they lived and live now, i don't know, but it is very dangerous, everyone who wants to cooperate with the russian federation in the form of signing some peace agreements directly, these people are traitors to our country. sorry, but i will speak categorically, so wagner gate showed who andrew really is yermak, and notice all those who had something to do with

the disclosure of the facts, i mean from the officials and intelligence workers of the security service of ukraine around this special operation, have either been dismissed, and we don't know where they are, we can't even record the interview, because these people it is not clear where, or they are in prison, like mr. chervinskyi... who was accused of something, to which he has nothing to do, because the airfield where these attacks took place had been under attack since the first days of the war, and they decided that this why did chervinsky give some coordinates when before that there have already been two shellings since the first days of the war, so this is a very, very sad story, and it says that everyone who is disagreeable and everyone who is for them... poses a threat in publicizing important factors, facts, will, unfortunately, latticed or hidden. thank you, yanina, kateryna, what do you think,

will the war and what is happening now in the country erase those questions, or nullify those questions that we had before the great war, because there are actually a lot of questions about zelensky there was, well, i mentioned wagnergate and yenina talks about it, and many others questions, a large construction, which was called big theft, there is a lack of preparation for war, or ignoring the warnings of our western partners, that is, there are some questions, there are some questions, which answers we have not received during the last two years of the great war, whether we will get answers to these questions , whether zelensky can become the president of the country that will win the war, well, i'm talking in perspective now, and then it's somehow inconvenient. will ask him about it, well, regardless of the attitude towards the candidate or the president, who may become a candidate in the upcoming elections, the very joy of the fact that

ukraine will win and there may be... technically elections, it should unite us in this joy, let's say, all of us, yes, that's the main thing, i just it's like some kind of dream, the end of the war, with the victory of ukraine, the class, the question of whether we will know the answers to all the questions, quickly, probably not, but it seems to me that it was important that we would know them, and even more so if so it will happen in the near future that ukraine will win, we will prepare for elections, and president zelenskyi, he will become a candidate and will... go to this step to bog down again, then even in this election campaign, it would be worthwhile to ask all these extremely important questions, because there should be openness here, if there is no state secrets and so on, well, this is very, very important and very revealing for people who do not forget all these facts, about moments, for journalists who do not let them forget about it, because they are constantly reminded, the answers must be heard, and if there were abuses ,

violation of the law, then this... the ukrainian people should also see in the investigations in the courts there and in fair verdicts. thank you katerina. very short subtopic. colleagues, in ukraine they began to block channels that spread russian propaganda, according to the center for combating disinformation, 24 channels promoting pro-russian narratives have already been blocked, including ostap stakhiv lviv, oleshko news, diana panchenko, and dubinsky. about, supershari, well, that is, all those people who broadcast russian propaganda are now blocked, very briefly, yanina, do you think that the state is effectively fighting russian propaganda on various platforms, and how can it fight effectively when, instead of allocating funds for... the creation of

an anti-propaganda product, it allocates funds for the creation of programs about political power president, or the employment of former , unfortunately unsuccessful and undemanding, unfortunate workers of quarter 95, well, this is not a job, we do not have grants in our country for which journalists with their editorial teams are anti-corruption or anti-propaganda, i me... with russian fakes, with propaganda, with domestic cotton wool, we would fight so that the state would help, our youtube lives only at the expense of our viewers, only at the expense of our viewers, my colleagues from anti-corruption teams, investigative teams such as the info investigation , ukrainian truth, bigus info, schemes, these are all grant stories and monetization and sponsorship of viewers and clubs that include viewers, thank you, we have to, we have to collapse.

yanina, i'm sorry, we're just interested in the authorities, i'll say briefly, we don't have anti-propaganda, because she is not of interest to the authorities, thank you, and kateryna, very briefly, worked for eight years at radio crimea, we spoke about the occupied crimea before the full-scale invasion, and in general we do not have an information policy and there was none all these years after the annexation of crimea, it seems to me , now it is all the more important, the blocking, of course, is a good story of these malicious channels, absolutely they were sent to tiktok, and this is important, but... something must be done with the global information policy. thank you, kateryna nekrecha, yanina sokolova were guests today's program. thank you for participating in this program. during the entire broadcast , we conducted a survey, we asked you about the following. friends, do you consider putin to be the legitimate president of russia? the results of the television survey - 8% yes, 92% - no. on youtube, we have the same ratio, 91%, no, and yes.

we put an end to this, i say goodbye to you until monday at 8:00 p.m., this was the verdict program by sergei rudenko, goodbye. friends, i welcome you, and before i talk about culture, i would like to show you something very funny and... and in principle it even draws on a performance, on some kind of cultural phenomenon, although this is just an informative story on the television of the city of olan ud, which is in buryatia, and this video, this story was simply thrown on facebook, and it got lost there, and it's really very funny, we can already watch excerpts, and it's about the main character, his name is alexander, alexander came to us.