work, well, precisely the diplomatic corps that works with the word, well, why not, this is one of the aspects of our foreign policy, i would just like to draw attention to what, well, first of all , the elections on ukrainian territory, they have been held since 2014 on the territory of occupied crimea, from that moment on , we are questioning all these issues with putin's legitimacy, i think, in fact, and i agree that the diplomats are dealing with the very question... are we the real tsar, and the tsar is not real, we are have already found out, i think that we need to think more about what kind of gift we are we will make it for vladimir manyak putin's inauguration, it is very interesting that the whole russian propaganda team is up to something, they believe that we will destroy the crimean bridge by may 7, i do not know about the plans of our military command. but it seems to me that it would be

such a worthy gift, in a brotherly way, if, if there was already such an attempt on putin's birthday, remember, october 7, and there had already been such a blow, it didn't count because they reported it, quite quickly , yes, yes, look, on the background of what is being discussed, legitimacy, illegitimacy president putin, what to do with him, hit russia or not? and as a result, we see time magazine with the cover of navalny's widow , yulia navalny, and the first interview after her husband's death with the journalist simon shuster , the same simon shuster who wrote the book about zelensky, and here navalny says that it is too bad that ukrainians do not want to cooperate with russians opposing the war, what does she say? russians are good

russians - a very bad phrase, i think they just don't want to look for these anti-war russians, but such russians do exist, just it is difficult to expect that they will go out into the streets, because as i said, not all people are heroes, they are ready to engage in various types of struggle, it is important to support these people, i believe that it is a mistake of the ukrainian government to ignore them, but here navalny acts as if as a leader or one of the leaders of the opposition, and is there even an opposition in russia? well, my opinion is that there are such public figures, and the position is those people who can come to power, and from this point of view there is no position in russia, even these puppet parties like the ldpr, they are also not a position, it's just a part of the russian government, so the chances are there for... the so-called people who, because of

smart voting or because of some other nonsense , think that they will be elected there one day, well, it's just actually a small one, so i'm looking at this statement by yulia navalny, here she is talking about the fact that the ukrainian government is wrong about something, and that they are... ready for cooperation, as i understand it, for any cooperation, are they ready, let's understand, if you are ready for something, then suggest if you want some support from ukraine, then talk about it too, specific things, and we were a little different from them in general even in temperament before the great war, and even more so now, these are general phrases, but waving flashlights during the day or at night, they don’t hear, then... that is, i i perfectly understand that there is

a dictatorship and again, these are her statements about the fact that not everyone can go out on the streets, sorry, she is so stupid that she does not understand that the time of rallies and going out on the streets is long gone, it is gone, and the husband has already been killed, she mentions some street there, i'm just i want to remind you that once upon a time in the fbk... a whole party structure was created in its representative offices, cells, that is, there were real people, so let's decide, what do you want, if you want to fight for power, then in fact, the honest answer is very simple, all these calls, we are against the war, let's stop shooting, that's all, that's all nonsense, and if they want to gain power in russia, then... they should say it a little differently,

not to lay down their arms, to call on russian soldiers, and use her weapon, return her against the russians, as we... have already found out the illegitimate authorities of the russian illegitimate authorities and act accordingly, i want to emphasize that as far as i know, and i understand this, all ukrainian special services are looking for russians who somehow cooperate with us , and the language is not always worth it, that you have to go there and risk your life to do something, but what else to do, the time of slogans is not the same, it has long passed. therefore, if we are wrong about something, then we must tell yulia navalny that i declared myself the leader of the russian opposition, well, maybe i i am wrong, i say that she is nobody, but they have to prove to us that there is some

benefit from them, and we will help them, we have a unit of the rdk, if they decide, or when they decide to go to moscow, we will help them, charge them all bkvy we will charge, refuel tanks, or mercedes, whatever they will drive, depending on the situation, you can do that, but you know, this kind of insult to ukraine, that we did not appreciate something there from their point of view, but excuse me these underdogs, they don't even imagine anything about their state. about russia, let me remind you that when navalny boarded the plane from germany, i met him at the vnukov airport while still in moscow, but the plane flew to another airport, and he was detained there, and he never got out of prison again, i will just remind you

of the chronology of the event, they were flying to thought that the russians would take him to the kremlin after the movie about putin's palace, well, if they thought so, then they... really don't know this country, so once again, i want to emphasize, i think we don't know much about it either we say that we treat russians not through the prism of a passport, in fact, well, at least i, me i think you will agree with me, we have people who are currently in ukraine with a russian passport and who are no different except for their views, we should not look for any good russians. a good person is not a profession, if you have any proposals, you come out with them, if it will benefit us all, the use of our state, your return to the russian federation, we will always find a common language, but here are the statements that here ukraine is not doing something there, the fact that we do not pray for

navalny, well, we have reasons for this, and i understand that a person was killed, but we, sorry, probutrobot, will not forget, why not because we are from... memorable, but because at that moment navalny and this company, his team, they legitimized war against us, that's actually all, as they say just biznes, if you change your approaches, and we will change our approaches, i, for example, will stop using the word conjunction crimea is not a sandwich, but if you don't do this and some kind of you owe us something... well, we don't owe you anything, go to moscow, you're right, that's why that, well, actually, what i hear and what i read in navalny's interview, i have the feeling that she is not what, she, she not only

does not understand what is happening in russia, she does not understand what is happening in ukraine, although she has enough opportunities to make a picture of what is happening in our country, she lives abroad. and she has all available resources. another rather short topic, this all-russian flood in the urals, ortsk, orenburg, that there the mound is already going under the water, what does this mean that russia actually held on to these and how there, on shit and sticks, just all these dams that are now... you, as a host, can't say, but i, as a guest, can, from shit and piles, well, i, i just couldn't formulate clearly, but more clearly i can't come up with a clear wording, but the truth is, everything is even more clear for the russians, because there , please tell me, well, this means that they

are not inside the country, that this whole system is decrepit, it is the same as these dams, that at a certain moment all that is there... because it will collapse very quickly, and this autocracy and dictatorship that exists, it also it might break through, just like that dam in vorsk, maybe. and maybe not, here, you see, it can happen, right now the water will go down there, and they will tell these people who are not at all the subject of any process that is happening there, they will be told, you want money to earn for new houses, everyone, everyone, make contracts with the ministry of defense, go to war, maybe... this is to return in the final case, how powerful it is, you see,

well, there are some systemic crises, crisis phenomena, that is, in winter they were all freezing there moreover, the central moscow region, which is just there, sorry for the money, it's just everywhere, it's just very, very expensive and a lot, and the fact that these dump breakthroughs again look like a systemic problem. but this does not mean that it will fall somehow, and here i am looking at this big water, and on the one hand i am happy to see it, why, because it is not that i am happy there that people with russian citizenship have some problems , i am not interested in this, i am interested in the fact that the resource of the russian state will go to some kind of war instead of a conventional war resumption of work, but... the problem, in my opinion, is that it can drown there 100 times, but putin will find money for the war,

so let's make some assumptions that there or because of it, if that's how moscow went under water, well, it would be interesting to see, but yes, what, well, some region floats, and by the way, look, there are quite good houses, that is, russians, they are also different, there is also a wealthy part. there are a lot of people who do not live in shacks on chicken legs, and they have a lot of cars, not only chinese, but and others, that is, this story is so complicated, and you see, they, as it were, they don’t like it very much, and they even proclaimed such a word there as vila, but they do not draw the conclusion vila in relation to whom, putin is somewhere. . there is a fight with nato in space, you know, and some boyars there, well, they are bad, there is something else, well, i don’t know, maybe

they will plant myra orska there, or he will move to dubai to live with his son, maybe that will be the end of it, that is, we are only interested in the ability of the russian state to wage war with us, for now, for now we understand everything, they will fight, you know, in the context of this flood, i am most afraid that... that they do not start relocating these people from orsk and orenburg somewhere to the south or southeast of ukraine, because the houses are destroyed, and it is impossible to live there, of course, and here there is also a question, because they will say, well, let's go and develop the new russian lands that we captured there, and that can also happen, in principle. thank you, thank you, roman, let's put a full stop and thank you for joining in, it was roman tsymbalyuk, a journalist. friends, we are live tv channel and also on our platforms in youtube and facebook, we are conducting a poll, we

ask you about this, do you consider putin the legitimate president of russia? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have your own opinion, please write it in the comments below this video. if you're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote. if so, 0.800-211-381, not 0800 211-382, all calls. these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. further viktor shlinchak, head of the institute of world politics, is in touch with us. mr. viktor, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. greetings sergey, good evening to all of you. today, mr. viktor, a meeting of the ukraine-nato council took place, and after its conclusion, nato secretary general jend stoltenberg stated that the allies are ready to provide our additional means of air defense, let's listen to stoltenberg. regarding

the improvement of air defense systems for ukraine, i want to say that it will happen soon. germany also decided to provide additional systems to ukraine. ukraine will soon receive additional patriot systems. our allies, who, unfortunately, do not have available, accessible systems, they can provide financial assistance to ukraine. we also work within the framework of strengthening production, production of precisely those necessary systems that met the goals. mr. viktor, please explain why our western partners have been derailing air defense for so long. i, too, mr. serhiy, have the same question, why

did this happen, but i remember the year 2022. when including my children painted posters: close the ukrainian sky from russian missiles. two years have passed and only now, somewhere out there, they want to get some additional systems and, accordingly, missiles for them. of course, i have some guesses as to why this is happening, because it is obvious from... now we really are in such a turning point of the war, in a turning point from all points of view, in a turning point from the political point of view, because first of all we began to hear about the victory of ukraine, about the fact that russia must be defeated, about what is happening now

everything possible must be given, and it must be done. quickly, i really hope that tomorrow's vote in the house of representatives will be just as positive. this means that the western partners, most of the western partners, have matured to the point that it is necessary to solve the situation in a radical way, because the circumstances in which we find ourselves now are, well, let's put it this way, quite serious. er, this is an excuse to think about , including what the head of american intelligence says, the loss of ukraine without weapons, the loss of ukraine without the means to the destruction of russian missiles will lead to the strengthening of russia. this will mean that

another wave of refugees will pour into europe, it will mean that europe... will be forced to distract itself from its problems and from its elections, which are also approaching in european countries, and will start dealing with ukraine, accordingly, some leaders are now starting to mature , that it is more profitable for them to provide what ukraine is asking for. and olaf scholz, federal chancellor of germany, after the meeting of the european council in brussels. stated that that ukraine can receive seven air defense systems from partners in the north atlantic alliance, in particular, one of them has already been allocated by germany. let's listen to scholz. the alliance has made it clear that systems available in nato countries can be transferred to allow ukraine to better defend itself against multiple russian attacks.

i would like to use this opportunity to emphasize this appeal once again. we have heard that there should be seven systems, one of them is ours, and we hope to find the remaining six in the context of nato. all these statements, mr. viktor, are lacking for one thing, so that scholz, and stoltenberg and others, well, stoltenberg, the secretary general of nato, but well, for other leaders of western countries to talk about the fact that we want putin to lose and for the russian federation to lose, but these calls. there are no such statements, why? well, i really hope that during the voting there, in some documents, in some projects, there is this, from the forces to the fact that russia must lose, and this means that politically, politically, this message can be

strengthened, i apologize for the taftology, on during this forum, the so-called... forum of peace, which switzerland is going to hold in june, and there is a small, shall we say, hope that just such a framing of the question will force many leaders of the european union, in the first place, who are still in the position, when they vacillate between how to sit ... the situation and how to get involved in helping ukraine will be able to change, but in this case there is a small, i repeat, a small hope that... the world begins to rethink this thesis, that is, when we were told that russia should not win, but they said so

the thesis that ukraine should not lose, now it is necessary to completely turn over this chessboard and start saying that ukraine should win, russia should lose, only with such a thesis... i think that it is possible to work further. on saturday, april 20, at 20:20 20:30 kyiv time, the house of representatives of the united states of america will begin consideration of the draft law on new military aid to ukraine. prime minister denys shmehal visited the united states of america and said that both parties of the congress of the united states of america assured the ukrainian delegation in support of the bill. about help donald trump believes that the survival and strength of ukraine is also important for americans. however, europe should provide stronger support to kyiv than the united states. and this

follows from trump's new post. what he writes: how it happened that the united states spends 100 billion more than europe on the war in ukraine. despite the fact that we are separated by an ocean. we all agree that the survival and strength of ukraine should be more important for... europe than for us, but it is important for us as well, - wrote donald trump. some are right republicans took the post as a signal that trump opposes the current aid package, although trump did not say so directly, as noted by reuters. that is what trump wanted to say, that on the european continent you are there on the european continent, you yourself deal with putin there , including that, and what... the united states of america was one of the guarantors of the budapest memorandum, which was mentioned this a week after iran's shelling attempt

on the state of israel, and these guarantees were mentioned, they said, well, these are guarantees that, in principle , did not actually guarantee anything in ukraine, that it was the budapest memorandum, rather, it was a declaration, and there is nothing like that there. maybe ukrainian diplomacy should remind all the guarantors of the budapest memorandum. that we had nuclear weapons at all, and we gave these nuclear weapons and took a step to meet the united states of america, not so that the united states of america would ask europe: why don't you help ukraine? well, there were other signatories, that's if talk about great britain, france, russia and, with reservations, china. yes, actually. in fact, it is precisely the situation with the budapest memorandum that is pushing other countries to join not only in the war, i

mean in the arms race, but to actively think about what needs to be said, think about nuclear, think about nuclear weapons, that is what they are talking about now and in japan in other countries, i.e. right now the situation with ukraine is pushing some states to seriously consider the possibility of developing nuclear weapons, this about the nuclear doctrine, about what you said about trump, about for trump this is not an extraordinary statement, because even when... trump was the president, he constantly encouraged the european countries that they should invest more in their military support, in order to spend more specifically

on defense. actually, the war in ukraine pushed these european states to really spend more money now, some of them have already crossed the two-digit mark. hundredths of the domestic gdp, as he insisted trump, and i think this process will continue, so going back to your question, the arms race continues, trump is manipulating these numbers so far, because , accordingly, the capabilities of the united states of america and europe are slightly different, even technologically. and the fact that trump somehow now demonstrates not to vote, i don't really believe it, because the latest sociological data.

showed that the issue of ukraine has become for that audience, which, well, let's say this, wavers, that is, does not know which side of support there is to choose democrats or republicans, now just look at the decisions on ukraine, on israel, on taiwan and on security issues, you see that even the issue of the wall is from mexico. it even somehow dissolved in the information space, so now is the moment when the united states of america really has to make the right decision, and let's listen to zelensky, who today said what priorities he sets and what kind of help he expects from the members of the north atlantic alliance , we need. seven more

patriot systems or similar air defense systems, and that's the minimum they can protect many lives, and really make a difference. secondly, we have been talking about about a million ammunition for ukraine for a long time, and they should finally be delivered to the battlefield. thirdly, our, our capabilities from a distant impression. the battlefield really needs long-range missiles and artillery. aviation is the fourth. we need the right number of planes to defeat the russian air fleet, and the fifth is speed, this year we can't wait for the decision whether zelensky will be heard, or if zelensky will be heard and will everything be as dynamic as the president of ukraine wants, as we all want? well, i really hope that tomorrow will be a positive day for us, positive news, our...

the military is waiting for them, our bodyguards are waiting for them, we are all together throughout ukraine waiting for this help, it really is the most necessary right now, which is of all the problems . thank you, mr. viktor, for the conversation, it was viktor shlinchak, chairman of the board of the institute of world politics. friends, we continue to work on the air of the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who now watching us live, there please subscribe to our pages and also support this stream with your likes. in addition, take part in our survey, today we ask you about the legitimacy of putin himself, do you consider putin the legitimate president of russia? yes, no, you see now the intermediate results of the survey, 8% yes on the television broadcast, 92%

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espresso. israel has struck iran, officials in the united states say, but the official response from all sides is very subdued. there is no confirmation of this attack either from israel or from iran. so what is known about the explosions, have iranians heard, and if tensions between the countries are rising, what will happen next in the middle east? we are talking about this on the bbc broadcast live from london, i am evgenia shedlovska. so how was israel's response to a massive attack by iran. well, israel has not officially confirmed the night attack, and iran directly.