zelensky, no matter how he wriggles out, he will have to side with the military and be a co-author and bear full responsibility for this law, well, i would say not very popular among the people. well, while the people are debating a new law on mobilization, a global peace summit is being prepared in switzerland, and putin and lukashenko, who met yesterday in moscow, complain about the world community and say that without russia, the issue of the future of ukraine cannot be resolved. and putin insists on returning to the draft of the so-called istanbul treaty, which was justified by the negotiating teams of ukraine and russia at the beginning of the large-scale invasion, let's hear what putin says about the upcoming peace summit in switzerland? the idea of ​​holding some kind of conference in switzerland is being promoted, we are not invited there, moreover, they think that there is nothing for us to do there...

at the same time, they say that it is impossible to solve anything without us, and since we are not going there, it is already a panopticon someone, they say that we refuse to negotiate, we are not invited, but they say that we refuse, it would not be so funny as sad, i want to emphasize once again that we are in favor, but not in the format of imposing some schemes that have nothing to do with reality. you know, i looked at this picture again and realized that the panopticon is right there, what was in the kremlin, you saw at what distance the journalists filmed them, that is, it is not at all clear who is sitting there, or it is just a sound track, some pranksters make this sound track, and it seems that putin was not really there, mr. sergey, well , the comedy is that two military criminals and usurpers of power teach the democratic world how to act, that's it, well, that's the top. such, i would say,

bullshit, the fact is that after such applications, the international criminal court finally has to decide not only with putin, but also with lukashenko, by the way, lukashenko should have received the same warrant from the international criminal court a long time ago, well, something, something is being delayed somewhere, it is obvious that it is necessary that our legal... allies try to insist that, after all, the criminal, international criminal court has already expanded from two to four rounds of announced searches, well , lukashenko himself could, so to speak, appear in the hague, well, something is stopping him from this noble gesture. at the very end, very briefly, what do you think the solutions might be at the global peace summit. and to what extent

this peace will be in some perspective, will we be able to see this peace? well, it seems to me that this global peace summit, it is a development, i remember two or three years ago, and then two years ago, on the initiative of joseph biden, a global democracy forum was held, and it seems to me that this the swiss summit can outline the construction of a security ee... policy for the future, for the next 100 years. thank you, it was volodymyr tsibulko, mr. volodymyr, thank you for the conversation, and we continue our program, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms on youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please , take part in our survey, today we are asking you about whether you would trust the political power of the military after the war, yes no, it's quite simple on youtube, if you...

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of japan, fumio kishida, visited there, and he called on the united states of america to support ukraine and provide the necessary assistance. the question is quite simple: to what extent do you think the congress of the united states of america is ready to make a decision on allocating $61 billion in aid to ukraine. if we are talking specifically about the house of representatives, because in fact the senate has already shown its willingness to remove this aid. the house is only as ready as speaker johnson. speaker johnson is ready to do this in the next week and a half, two weeks, because a vote of no confidence is being prepared against him, a vote of no confidence from his own party members, from margerine, and therefore in order to call for a certain set of votes in order to save

from this vote of no confidence, it is necessary for him in one form or another, either from the side of republicans or moderate democrats, to present a certain aid package for ukraine. therefore, in the next one and a half to two weeks, we can expect an aid package for ukraine, in what specific form it will be, will it be a land list, will it be a loan, will it be any other form of aid, we cannot say yet, because speaker johnson simply did not give us the opportunity to talk about it, because he did not present the specific text of the bill, but in the near future we will see the specific work of the speaker, we will see specific decisions that can be put to the vote, and we will really be able to assess johnson's chances of political survival within the framework of american politics and , accordingly, the chances of passing a pro-ukrainian aid package for ukraine .

in an interview with cnn, the minister of foreign affairs of poland, ratosław sikorski, reproached the congress of the united states of america for the long delay in the decision on aid to ukraine, which leads to the destruction of the energy infrastructure and is threatened by new ones. refugees, let's hear what radislav sikorsky said. i again call on speaker johnson, let democracy decide. the issue needs to be put to a vote so that funds and the necessary weapons can be supplied to ukraine. if this does not happen, russia will cause new destruction, and the credibility of the united states will be in question. mr. alexander, when sikorsky and other world leaders call on johnson to pass the decision of the house of representatives, does this mean that this decision depends not only on johnson and on

the potential candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, donald trump, and it is through the prism of this and exclusively through the prism of this that we must look at this situation, here we must. it must be frank that johnson is not an absolutely one hundred percent independent politician. in principle, until the beginning of march of this year , johnson was really just a spokesman for trump. and it was also recognized by american political scientists, independent political scientists recognized that johnson really broadcast only trump's policy regarding the house of representatives, regarding congress as such. at this stage, johnson is trying to play a certain individual role, he is trying to find new allies. but basically he continues to play within the trump cohort and within that logic really what foreign leaders are doing, what cameron is doing, what sikorsky is doing, what macron is doing personally, all this influence that they have on united states

of america, it shows that the potential future leader of the united states of america needs to pay attention to the issue of ukraine, needs pay attention to the issue of aid, so if trump wants to really be... a global leader, if he wants to have a really potential impact on the international community, on his european allies within nato, he needs to be more pro-european, he needs to be more conscious about the problems of ukraine , so what sikorsky is saying now, what cameron has been doing, although officially this visit was not as successful as everyone hoped, but it's all directed not so much at trump as at johnson, it's at... at what he has understand his potentials in terms of politics, he has to understand his potentials in terms of survival, as the speaker of the united states house of representatives, he has to put the ukrainian draft, the ukrainian budget draft to a vote, because this is

his only chance to negotiate with the union to preserve it in the position of speaker with conservative republicans, with potentially democrats, it already depends on the text of the law itself. project, so one way or another, but both sikorsky's statement and cameron's negotiations, which he conducted, it was all directed on johnson, it's all directed at trump and the fact that aid is for ukraine. this is not exclusively a foreign policy issue, it is a domestic policy issue, and it is an american election issue. well, what is the interest, can you explain what is the interest of trump not to provide money to ukraine? his only interest is to sink biden's rating, because biden has been saying for the last two and a half years that ukraine is exclusively a matter of his administration, it is solely a matter of how active he is in foreign policy. the president, to the extent that he is a transatlanticist, and now biden, or rather

trump, now trump, who before that, well, as early as july 23, said that ukraine is a corrupt hole in which you should not invest money, which is even worse than afghanistan, now trump is saying that he would be much stronger than biden, he would be much more effective, and he could save ukraine, that is, in this case, ukraine is just a tool, a tool... of the internal political struggle between biden and trump. and ukraine is the issue on which trump all this time, in all these 2.5 years, simply blunted biden's rating. and now he sees that at this moment biden is unable to do anything with congress. and he himself wants to play a proactive role in helping ukraine. that is, ukraine is not really an individual topic of negotiations within the pre-election debates with... the united states. ukraine is a tool. ukraine is a tool for trump to

sink biden's ratings and to show that he is an active president in terms of foreign policy. well, and while the united states of america is solving the ukrainian, the so-called ukrainian question, regarding financing and regarding the opening of this large tranche of 61 billion dollars in the european union , they say that it is necessary to expand and speed up military assistance. can ukraine, in particular, provide additional air defense systems, the head of eurodiplomacy, josep borel, wrote about this on the x social network, he said that there will be a meeting of the eu council of ministers in april, and what borel wrote, i expect bold decisions at the joint meeting of the ministers of foreign affairs and defense of the european union april 22 with dmytro kuleba and rustem umyerov, the european union supports ukraine with all its forces, but when they... talk about the fact that the european union supports with all its forces, it

is perceived a little differently in ukraine, because if borel thinks only about air defense systems, then obviously ukraine thinks even about the fact that foreign legions, including the french, will not come here, the situation in ukraine is not easy, the russians are trying to advance, and the russians are destroying the energy infrastructure in ukraine, well, that is, the situation is quite tense, which means on... your opinion borel, when he says that the european union will support ukraine with all its might? at this stage, borel is talking specifically about air defense systems, that is, he should be given credit for blocking the budget of the european council against the background of the inability of european countries to provide ukraine with additional patriot systems, this is really a very powerful step, which within the european council, within the general european no one expected the community, but for... this is a very correct, very sharp, i would say, even in a certain way a hawkish step

for the european countries to be ready to provide for our security more air defense systems, more anti-missile defense systems, so we have to give credit to josep borel here. if we talk about the support of european countries in general, then it is necessary to very clearly divide support at the individual level, at the bilateral level of relations, and support at the level. of the european union, because at the level of the european union we see that this support is beginning to weaken, we have certain problems with communication with oleksandr kraev, now i hope we will restore communication and let's talk with him about how the european union actually tries and promises to help ukraine with all its might, well, at least that's what josep borel, the head of european diplomacy, said. who wrote on the x social network that there will be bold decisions

regarding support for ukraine, on april 22 there will be a ministerial meeting of representatives of the european union with the participation of dmytro kuleba and rustem umerov, among others, and one more issue that will be relevant enough already during the last few days , on april 17 in washington, finance ministers led. sevens on at the spring meetings of the international monetary fund and the world bank group, a new approach to the use of frozen russian assets, i.e. those assets located abroad, which ukraine will possibly use, or rather the world will use to help ukraine, will be considered, writes the financial times , it will be a compromise offer from the united states of america, not as radical as confiscation, but more aggressive than the current eu plan to allocate profits from assets to ukraine. we are at a point where we need to explore all possible ways to maximize the value of

frozen reserves in the interests of ukraine, we cannot wait forever. we understand that, dalip singh, deputy national security advisor to the president of the united states of america, told the newspaper. this issue is quite important for ukraine, i mean the use of frozen russian assets, because experts talk about different amounts that can be frozen around the world up to 300 billion dollars, so basically the question is whether the world will dare shared to allow the united states of america, great britain, and germany, who are helping ukraine a lot, to use these frozen russian assets to pay for weapons that go to ukraine, equipment for ukrainian soldiers, to support the energy infrastructure that is now being actively destroyed by the russian occupiers.

in short, there are a lot of questions, we hope that on april 17, where these big ... meetings of the finance ministers of the big seven and the international monetary fund and the group will be held in washington of the world bank, we will hear concrete proposals, because the world is tired of russia, the world is tired of putin, the world is tired of the aggressive policy of the russian federation towards ukraine, these terrorist activities of putin are treated with caution in the world and they understand what is happening. in ukraine and especially in the last few weeks, when the russian occupiers are striking the energy infrastructure of ukraine, destroying tes and tec, trying to deprive ukrainians of heat, light, and actually everything that the civilized world is used to, these strikes on

civil infrastructure can be classified as crimes, war crimes, although yesterday... i had valery chala on the air, he says that in the world international practice it is not so, not so clearly in legal practice, the responsibilities are not so clearly spelled out parties that inflict these blows, and when it is done, for example, by the russian federation, then it is necessary to prove in documentary in documents, in some pe'. evidence, to provide evidence of what is happening, although i hope that the office of the prosecutor general of ukraine and other investigators the authorities of ukraine are doing their best to do everything right from a legal point of view, and to ensure that the international institutions, which

also consider the issue of war crimes, nevertheless received all the evidence of... vladimir putin's criminal activities, so that in he had more than one warrant from the international criminal court for the deportation of ukrainian children to the russian federation, but also for the destruction of critical infrastructure in ukraine, for the killing of civilians in ukraine, for the fact that they destroy our cities, for the fact that they rape women, for committing war crimes on the territory of the ukrainian state, i think that this issue, this... issue will be brought to its logical conclusion and putin will receive more than one warrant from the international criminal court and appear before the international tribunal. friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please take our poll. today we ask you this: would you trust

the power to the political power of the military after the war? we ask about this for a reason, and in the second part of ours. program, we will talk about a social survey where ukrainians also answered this question, we will compare our survey results, both television and youtube, with what ukrainians actually say. so, if you have a smartphone or a phone at hand, you can also vote, if you would entrust power to the political power of the military after the war, 0821 381, no 0800 211-382, all calls to these numbers. are free, call us, at the end of the program we will sum up this vote. next, we have borislav bereza, politician, public figure, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation. mr. borislav, i congratulate you. thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. so, mr. boryslav, yesterday the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted a law on mobilization and emphasized the main

points about how mobilization should take place, further mobilization in ukraine, because this mobilization has been going on for two years already, and without this law, and it is clear that there was the mobilization process continues. or the decision will take effect. the law, in your opinion, on the process of mobilization and how? well, let's take turns, do we now have a law on mobilization? yes, on the basis of this law, we conduct mobilization, is it effective? no, it is not effective, but not because the law does not allow, but because there are no mechanisms and people have no motivation. will the new law change this situation? no, it will not change, or will it affect, well, the provisions of this law? to the fact that the vast majority of ukrainians who are currently conscripted do not want to serve, no, that's not the case either will happen, why? well, because this law does not

motivate, moreover, in order to change the situation, it was necessary to motivate, well, firstly, it was necessary not to waste time, secondly, the authorities had to not disgrace themselves with reputational corruption scandals all the time , which cause more questions than answers, thirdly, the authorities still had to... show how she, or her close people, are fighting today at ground zero and defending ukraine, this, by the way, would show, well, what the authorities consider the possibility of the participation of close people, relatives, acquaintances, colleagues, business partners in military military operations, and that would also be good, and finally, lastly, it was necessary to conduct a large all-ukrainian information campaign, which should ... it was done, well, for example, israel, for example, azerbaijan, other countries,

no one did this. moreover, have you ever seen the president personally lead a mobilization movement? no, on the contrary, he distanced himself, and do you think people will be very motivated after that when they they do not hear at all from the president that it is necessary to mobilize, this is as it were a part, but there is another part. a large number of our military expected in this bill such a provision as demobilization, after 36 months, and by the way, it would be very correct from the point of view of mobilization. imagine that a man is in a city or village and sees how his neighbors or relatives or acquaintances go to the armed forces, and return only 200 or 300, because otherwise it is impossible to leave the army now. and then he sees that they have started to return, and he understands that the army is not only an entrance, but there is no exit, and it is like a civilized country, for example, as in the same israel, where there is a war now, but there are also

mobilized, who are demobilized, and instead of them they are mobilized others, and this is practically implemented, why can’t this be done in our country, and i forgot, a huge number of volodymyr zelenskyi voters do not accept mobilization, and such a... story would demotivate them, would demotivate them to vote for zelenskyi, that is why this story and failed, and we see that instead of in order to create a motivational factor, they made a demotivation factor for the military, this is a big problem, and the president, how to solve it, they promise a new law in 8 months, that it will be created, they do not say when it will be submitted, they do not say when it will be adopted and they do not say what provisions will be in it. therefore , there are much more questions than answers, but once again, any law should change the situation for the better, thanks to the provisions in it,

are these provisions in this law, no, there are none, that's it, there is no whip and gingerbread, whatever changed the situation, unfortunately, there is no demobilization, well, obviously, when the leadership of the military, the leadership of ukraine says that in 8 months, well, through the mouth of the spokesman of the ministry of defense. that the demobilization law will be in 8 months, then obviously they mean that there are not enough people now, if you just say that there will be demobilization in 36 months, it means that those who left on february 24th in 12 months should be released from fulfilling their duties, accordingly , other people should be mobilized in their place, and yuriy sodol, commander of the united forces of the armed forces. said during the consideration of the draft law on mobilization in the verkhovna rada that the armed forces lacked personnel . the occupying army of russia prevails at the front by almost 10 times. let's hear what he

said. the situation at the front, and i am now the head of the operational-strategic grouping of the khortyts troops in the composition of four operational-tactical groups, these are kharkiv, luhansk, and donetsk regions, the enemy outnumbers us by 7-10 times, we lack personnel. mechanized, infantry, motorized infantry, rifle division. this is usually the case eight - 10 men, so now we have two left in the divisions, some divisions have three or four men, according to the tactical regulations for this division , it is given that they defend a guaranteed 100 m of the defense front, if there are two men, they can defend 20 m of the front, what

he says... the general is absolutely clear, but this is the scale he is talking about, that there are 10 times more of them at the front than ours, but they also have a country or something, excuse me for interrupting you, and you didn't hear about it, you didn't know about it before, you don't remember how zaluzhnyi appealed and said that we need mobilization to mobilize 400,000 in a year, and zelenskyi answered him: i don't see the need, i'm not convinced, now... sodal comes out and says that it's already too late, even now late, then recently zelenskyi says: "i don't see that anyone should be mobilized." and at the same time, he says that for the month of june, the russians will mobilize an additional 300,000. i would like to remind you that last year the russians began to mobilize 400,000 and have already finished this mobilization process. 400,000, 130,000 are current losses, this is what the armed forces of ukraine have crushed this year.

130,000 is 100%. those who were destroyed by ukrainian soldiers. of these 400,000, 130 will be replenishment, another 70,000 are the so-called or1, one operational reserve, they will be created and will be pulled up as needed, and another 2,000 are the same two armies that shoigu said about, one army is 100, they are creating two new armies and another 300,000, so zelensky does not understand how the supreme commander, when he is told this by a hard worker, said a hard worker, and for... when says sodol unexpectedly, i understand, but it 's a shame, it's an open shame, let's tell the truth, sodol is telling the truth, moreover, everyone said it for a long time, zaluzhny said it, shaptala said it, but zelenskyi ignored their warnings , he lost time, half a year of loss so that it was possible to mobilize, and why, because zelensky has his rating in front of his eyes,

and he wants to win the upcoming elections... more than to win the war, unfortunately, it is yes, no , he is not against winning the war, on the contrary, he is for it, but he wants to win the elections wants more, because otherwise he would have already made an unpopular decision with his voter, but his voter does not see these decisions, precisely because zelensky is very careful about his rating, so i say once again, the situation will not change, we need to mobilize now on a month... at least, well, at the same time we need to mobilize somewhere around 150-200 thousand people, and then we need 25-30 000 per month, this is what the military says, so zelensky talks about it, he doesn’t say about it, and why doesn’t he says why he does not name how many people need to be mobilized, again, the rating, this damn rating, i banned it, frankly banned it, you conduct polls on the rating until the end of the war, until we win no ratings, because it is the orientation towards this rating, it brings him

to... his rating is now falling, the balance of trust mistrust is now at the level of 25%, recently it was almost 60%, trust in zelenskyi is falling, and he is trying to maintain his rating at least by not making unpopular but statesmanlike decisions, well, this is not normal, it is inadequate, but without winning the war, he's not going to win the presidential election, i know he's not going to win, but he's living it, you know, he's, he's generally in the... in the grip of the churchill syndrome, where you believe you 're going to win the war, but then with it turns out you can't win the election. yes, this is how it works all over the world, because in a democratic society people get tired of the politician who was there during the war and want to change him. it's always like that. only in a totalitarian world does the same politician remain. for example, in russia, where stalin remained, or where putin remains now. in in any case to a democratic society.