at the most, consideration of this petition in an illegal manner is also a crime. so, in general, today the court decided to keep roman chervinskyi in custody for 15 days instead of the 16 invited, and let's also hear the reaction to this decision. adoption of today's decision to extend the term of detention. only for 15 days, this is a kind of internal compromise of the investigating judge and the internal compromise of the investigating judge between the understanding of how bad the prosecutor's request to continue the detention and the pressure of the executive power on judiciary. therefore, the next meetings should already be held in kirovohrad. that's all i have to wrap up, so that's all the information will be for now. i give you ether. thank

you, kateryna, it was kateryna galka who oversaw the trial of ex-intelligence officer roman chervinskyi, today they tried to choose a different means of detention for him, but apparently the lawyers appealed, but as i understand it, nothing came of it. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, during the entire broadcast, we will talk about... a poll and ask you about whether you consider mikhail bulgakov a ukrainophobe, yes, no, please vote on youtube with the appropriate buttons, you can now see the results, intermediate results of the television poll, 73%, yes , 27%, no, on youtube 75% yes, 25% no, we will continue this survey in the second part of our program, today we will have a journalism club with the participation of... oleksiy

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, friends, the second part of the verdict program is live on telekanaluso, my name is serhii rudenko, it is being broadcast today. parliamentary failure. the verkhovna rada is rapidly losing confidence. how to preserve the effectiveness of the legislative body without holding elections during wartime. resignation after resignation. the 2019 zelensky sample team leaves power. what rearrangement of influence forces is behind this? ukrainophobe bulgakov. russian the writer from kyiv is recognized as a symbol. imperial policy. why does not everyone agree with this decision? friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube. please take part in our survey. today we ask you this question: do

you consider mikhail bulgakov a ukrainophobe? yes no. if you watch us on tv, you can vote for the corresponding numbers. if you think so. mikhail bulgakov as a ukrainophobe 0800 211381 no 0800 211382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will tally up the results of our vote. and we already have my colleague andrii yanitskyi on the air. andrei, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. greetings, good evening. and oleksiy has yet to join our broadcast. staffin, historian, publicist, media manager , in order to discuss with us this evening, well, let's start our conversation, perhaps, with a quick question, andriy, do you consider mikhail bulgakov a ukrainofop? i can not

to say neither yes nor no, because the times when bulgakov was writing were still different, and we understand that then there was no independent ukraine in the form in which it is now. and to take today's patterns and impose them on an author who created so long ago seems wrong to me, at the same time i fully understand the position of our institution, in order to lay the foundation for the future, we must nevertheless draw a line under the imperial past and it is correct to interpret writers in that sense. don't ban them there, no, no ban their publication, for example, publish their books with comments, and write the truth about the fact that bulgakov, well, he was rather a russian-cultural, such an imperial writer, whether he was also a ukrainophobe,

it is difficult for me to say, i am not his biographer, in literary things, very often the characters say not exactly what... what the author really feels. thanks to andrii. oleksiy mustafin joined our broadcast. oleksiy, i congratulate you. thank you for being with us today. since, since we ask our tv viewers about their attitude towards mykhailo bulgakov, more precisely about whether they consider mikhail bulgakov a ukrainophobe, i suggest you answer this question briefly, if possible. well, at least he is not a ukrainophile. that's the least. he belongs to russian culture and identified himself as such, so to some extent he is an interesting person in the context of that culture, on the other hand, he is a native of kyiv, he was born in kyiv, spent a lot of time in kyiv, his work has a kyivan the topic

is certainly for any kyivan, it is also interesting, but it is clear that he is not a ukrainian writer, and therefore... he should be treated exactly like that, well, why are we asking, now we will explain to our tv viewers, because both andriy and oleksiy understand exactly why we have this question and why you actually asked this question in the survey , the expert commission of the ukrainian institute of national remembrance recognized the establishment of monuments in honor of bulgakov and the use of his name in the names of institutions and geographical objects as propaganda of the russian imperial policy. according to the conclusion of this commission. bulgakov was an imperialist in outlook and an ardent ukrainophobe, while the head of this institute of national memory, anton drobovich , called the experts' conclusion a little emotional, but admitted that they called things by their names, according to him, the bolgakov museum in

kyiv will continue to exist, but its name will be changed , gentlemen, do you agree with this conclusion of this institute. of ukraine, of the ukrainian institute of national memory, and whether or not everything that connects us or once connected us with... it was done collectively by some one there to take it and throw it aside and say that we will somehow continue without bulgakov, because bulgakov was an emperor. andrew? well, in the part about monuments and names, i completely agree with the conclusions of the institute, because when we talk about... monuments, we are not talking about the literary work of this writer, we

are talking about just the imperial symbols, and when we see how the monument is demolished "pushkin's monuments, then they are demolishing the putin's monument, in fact, or the monuments there to catherine, stalin, that is, this a symbol of the empire, primarily not given to the memory and creativity of this poet, and the same can be said about bugakov and about other things. russian cultural imperial writers. i myself was born in sevastopol, i lived there for 22 years, and you know, there was not as much bulgakov there as in kyiv, but, for example, pushkin, there was also a pushkin gymnasium, and , of course, a pushkin street, and what only pushkin was not there, although pushkin had a very indirect meaning in the history of sevastopol, he may have been there once somewhere, but when these names were appropriated to schools, streets, squares, it was, of course, not about yevgeny

onegin, but it was about the fact that this is the seal of such a russian world, empire, and such a copyright, and on the city of sevastopol, although in the history of sevastopol there were many other periods, crimean tatar, and ancient, and medieval, and more with europe. i believe that sevastopol was and is now connected than with russia. thank you, andriy, oleksiy, journalist serhiy tykhi says that bulgakov could be translated into ukrainian, and to arrange in this way, why translate that it is done. yes, i would like to continue andrei's opinion about the fact that the cult of pushkin and the cult of bulgakov are not connected. directly with these characters, or rather with the literature written by these people. monuments

to pushkin began to be erected en masse all over the russian empire, when pushkin had already been in the grave for a long time, there is a certain anniversary there, this is the end of the 19th century, the beginning of the 20th century, and precisely as a marker of russianness, so to speak, of russian culture. it's the same when they say that destroy, destroy history when renaming. bulgakov streets, it should be remembered that bolgakov streets also appeared only in independent ukraine, so in principle, well, i don't remember for sure, but at least during the rise of the soviet union, and the cult of bulgakov arose quite, quite, quite late, so to speak, therefore, and in addition, it must be said that the monument to bulgakov in kyiv appeared earlier than in russia, it reminds me of another character of leo tolstoy, who, er... they fought a lot about renaming the metro station, but in none, in no place in russia

there is no station and there was no leo tolstoy metro station, are we really such greater russians than the russians themselves. i believe that once again, there is no need to resort to prohibitions, unnecessary, that is, it is possible, many may be interested in these literary works, they can be published, if there is no... there is a demand for them, but again, this has nothing to do with school, it has nothing to do with toponymy, yes, maybe i would disagree about plaques, plaques explain or mark places where a person has been, and again, even in places there are memorial plaques for the crime, this does not mean that cats or murderers are glorified by this, so eh, i think that... the plaque should remain, maybe in a different form, but it can remain on the house in which

bulga lived, again , he lives, this is not his own home, but just a person lived here, why not, that is, this is this is this is part of the history that concerns the works of bolgakov, then it is definitely her most famous work that is related to ukraine , this is... the white guard, well, as he drinks days of tours, he is imbued with the spirit of this, that, russian of imperial kiev, that is, that part of society that was completely... part of the russian empire, so to speak, and sympathy for this culture, well, that was the culture, there were such people, and from the point of view of explaining their behavior in those conditions , maybe this is really interesting, but again , you should not give it away, that it is, so to speak , a novel or a play about kyiv, it is about

a certain circle of people, so to speak, these characters, the same applies to... . that many there in late soviet times admired the master and margarita, but there are questions about the general, so to speak, essence of this novel, what it is about, how it characterizes russian culture, because it is definitely a russian novel, and there i saw many features that are inherent in russian literature in general, which from my point of view are a reason to talk about why, why... not only this culture did not stop the crime that is happening, but in fact, well, that is, the result of this culture, the development of this culture is a riot. well, yes, there are a lot of questions, just as there are many questions for the former partner of president zelensky, boris shefir, he gave a great interview with radio station svoboda, he

is now in germany, in germany, he admitted that he wants friendship. from russia and loves its culture, i will quote that what boris shefir actually said was not sergey shevir, but boris shevir. i love the russian language, russian culture, i can't watch the destruction of pushkin monuments in ukraine, for me it's stupidity, if i were close to zelenskyi, i mean, i would say, let's close this matter and let's be friends, but there are completely different settings. here we see, gentlemen, how serhiy shevir actually was last week left... from the assistants of president zelensky, his own brother boris shevir never hid the fact that he wants to be friends with russia, in the 19th year he gave an interview and also said that let's negotiate with russia, no it is necessary to fight, and serhiy shevir and boris shevir are not only business partners of zelensky, they are people who

were actually at the origins of the emergence of the kvn star. volodymyr zelenskyi, then they were near the star of the kvartal 95 studio, well, they were near, who, who about it, you better know, if not you, as a biographer, well, i’m just retelling, yes, and actually borys shefir and serhiy shevir, together with zelensky, they even rented an apartment in moscow when they lived there in the mytishchi district, and now these two people who contributed to the creation of already a political star also. zelensky, because their influence was quite large, serhiy shefir was a part of, let’s say, the team responsible for the finances of the zelensky family, as far as i understand, and now they have left zelensky’s entourage, they have finally left zelensky’s entourage, boris yes exactly, because he says that

zelensky doesn't pick up the phone from me, or we can assume that... now zelenskyi is simply renewing his team, because for the extension of the presidential term, he no longer needs those who knew him in a completely different way, or who led him to power, well, in fact, everyone in my opinion presidents went through this stage, including president kuchma, those people who led it in 1994 until the elections in 1999 were no longer involved in this, what... in your opinion is this upgrade connected of this team, and of course the position of shefir, does it mean that what shefir thinks, serhii shevir also thinks, well boris shefir, what about boris and serhii shevir, and maybe zelensky shared such opinions as you think, andriy, then zelensky definitely

shared such opinions before, but he has undergone a great evolution, and we can even look at the photos of the president. what he was in the 19th, what he is today in the 24th year, he is already a different person, regarding the renewal of the team, it is not the first time that the team has been renewed, we remember such a period of romanticism, the first when andrii bohdan was the head of the presidential office , and when there were those turbo-reforms, that still a romantic, he was still a romantic, but i am in such an ironic sense, of course, that there was an attempt... now we will carry out such turboreforms and show the whole world how to live, here we are all libertarians, and gradually, gradually it became policy. conservative, after the full-scale invasion, challenges, well, other ones arose , non-political rivalry with other politicians, and threats to the existence of the country, and i think all

this time the big challenge for volodymyr zelenskyi is to get a controlled state machine, he did not get it in that form, in which we know from the constitution and that there are ministers. the parliament is effective, but the leadership of the country, in my opinion, takes place in an informal way, through a system of advisers, friends, watchers, etc., that is, of course, there is a formal vertical, but the formal vertical does not work, but the informal vertical works, and so in this informal vertical has several groups of influence, several interest groups, and these interest groups fight with each other, which of them is more influential, we already see that kyril tymoshenko is not around, he is there in the position of adviser to the minister of defense, but a big does not play a role, we can already see that mr.

serhiy shefir is gone, but who is getting stronger, well , of course, yermak, the head of the president's office, is quite a powerful figure, and he, well, in my opinion, takes over all the levers of influence on ukrainian politics . oleksiy, do you think that zelensky simply does not need old friends who will applaud him, well, look , it seems to me that there are two questions here, about old friends and about the change of people in the team, we see that this in general , zelenskyi's work style, he is changed from time to time, people are changed, and i would not be here connected there with the statements, for shefir, because in a similar way he replaced the commander-in-chief, uh, zaluzhny, that is,

because in this play, in this scenario, there should be one hero, and this hero is volodymyr volodymyr zelenskyi, that is, it is such and such a way, a way of leadership, a way of conducting political affairs, and the people who come, whom he takes into his team, they must fulfill. some tasks, some succeed, some fail, but from time to time he changes them precisely because he has a hero, there should only be one hero, of course, it is possible to connect, so to speak, the dismissal of serhii shafir with his brother's statements, although, so to speak, these are not his first statements, not the first time serhii has rejected them, but we can see in principle that since the time when there was an attempt on him . by the way, we still don't know what happened with the investigation of this assassination attempt, he actually did not play a big role in the entourage, in the entourage of zelenskyi, so i think that this is rather a statement, a statement

of fact, although again, it fits perfectly into the logic of actions zelensky. as for the views, so to speak, of boris shafir, well you know, he's now, as you mentioned, he's in germany now, i don't think that during, for example, world war ii... a lot of people who were, for example, jewish, were willing to cooperate with germany or say, well, we all let's make up, because once we lived very well in the weimar republic, so it seems to me that there is a certain, certain element of cunning here, but then again, he is a private person, these are his personal views, and personal tastes, so to speak, because... . after all , to a certain extent it also applies to the sphere of the sphere of culture, so to speak, let's call it that, and there is a taste plays his role, that is, for some it

is called disgusting, as they say, and for some it is normal and nothing, maybe zelensky would also have such views, but you know, he is in that position when completely different things define him and his actions and his, and his, again, his tastes now, so i don't think that... it's related in any way, although of course there are similar, so to speak, well minor, i would say incidents, but of course they can play out there , you see that zelenskyi's friends, even former ones, want reconciliation with russia, but i would not consider this as a priority version, well, we just have to remember what zelensky said on the night of the 23rd to the 24th, when he spoke about the fact that he addressed the russians... to the russians and said that why the tent the war is there, and he tried to somehow appeal to the russian audience, this can also be explained in principle, because zelensky was there. one

of those who toured russia a lot, and as kvr, i can agree with you on one side, on the other side i don't, because in fact, it's a game that everyone played ukrainian politicians, 31 years of independence, let's not quarrel with russia, let's find, let's have a common language, let's persuade the russians, to say that it was some kind of, so to speak, with... deliberate aiding and abetting of russia, i wouldn't say i think that it was quite pragmatic, by the way, and the west talked with putin, because both they believed, and ukrainian politicians, even more so, believed that there are some arguments, according to which, with which myth it is possible to reach to the russians, to the russian elite, to the russian leader, to the russian people, which we are talking about probably everyone was under certain illusions, that's why, but after what

happened... this is february 24, especially after what happened in mariupol and bucha, i think that the responsible politicians at least lost their illusions, and they they will simply not resort to such things, at least out of a sense of self-preservation, because you know, in our country it is possible for one of the figures who have been around the bank, and this is not the case. say , they can make some curtseys towards russia, but for this they still have to leave ukraine and emigrate there, tell that they feel they are russians. beyond any doubt, i actually wanted to say that serhiy shefir, boris shevir, and volodymyr zelenskyi, well , studio kvartal 95 contributed quite strongly to the fact that there were a lot of representatives of russian culture present on the ukrainian market, and on, say . yes, at

almost all of their concerts there were a lot of russians, and this is to the point that they thought it was absolutely normal, and a lot of the same current putinists attended these concerts, and i think that in this the situation of both the former head of the studio kvartal 95 zelensky and the former heads. and studios 95 and serhii shefir and boris shevir, they are also also responsible for the fact that they polished for a very long time, so definitely, definitely, they are responsible, but they are also responsible, maybe chronologically they are a little different, but nevertheless everyone who tried to do business from russia, but tell me who did not try to do business from russia, even the most patriotic words of ukrainian politicians are

did, well... i won't mention the lipetsk factory, rosukrenergo under yushchenko, i'm not talking about yanukovych and kuchma, that's why it's necessary to say it like that again, it's necessary to remind about it, but again, i believe that the problems are not only with zelenskyi and his team, it concerns everyone, as they say, absolutely, i agree with this, andriy, you have something to add to this broad discussion, well, we haven't mentioned tymoshenko yet, because tymoshenko did that. let's let 's not remove the responsibility from the voters either, we we remember how the electoral picture changed, and i would say that the whole country grew up and the whole country gradually became aware of itself, not a separate country that chose its own separate path from russia, well , maybe in holy galicia, to the west in the west of the country these beliefs were from the very

beginning with... so balanced, but other regions gradually evolved and searched for themselves and precisely identified themselves and determined who they were with, whether they were with european ukraine or with authoritarian russia, and luckily they chose european way. friends, i would like to remind you that we are working live on the tv channel and conducting a survey today, we are asking you this, do you think mikhail? ukrainophobe, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you watch us on tv, grab a smartphone or phone and vote if you consider bolgakov a ukrainophobe 0800 211 381, no, 08021-382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote , at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. oleksiy, i want something.