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family, and now it turns out that it's okay, these younger brothers are killing older brothers, how to explain it, it's not just that we need to talk about terrorists, who are there from bandera, who ran into a shopping center in moscow, it's necessary to change the whole history, it means rewriting the textbooks, it means tearing out whole chapters from the school textbooks and rewriting the whole history, how do you explain? now to the russians, that russia takes its roots from where, well, if not from kyiv, then from moscow, well, it happened much later and moscow, or from where, so in fact it is a huge problem for russian historiography, and i think that now we see such a very demonstrative option in social networks in russian or in their shows, when on the one hand they will continue again...
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to push back that supposedly ukrainians, they are actually good, this they are just there, the americans told them something, and that is why they are waging war against us, and on the other hand, in these same programs, russian commentators are already starting to put forward another myth, that it turns out that they are ukrainians, they are not like that, we need a stone for a stone not leave, as they sometimes do they are already saying on the air in this ukraine, it is bad for us, so in fact a lot is going on in the heads of russians, but here i will still try... to find the positive, i believe that if now in the russian official propaganda they will finally stop talking about the eyes fraternal nations, will finally decide for themselves that ukraine is something hostile, and they will start hating it, then it will be better, because this propaganda, when we were constantly told about fraternal nations, as it turned out, it worked very well for part our compatriots who believed in this, who believed that ukrainians and russians are already so different, and even... the people, that's what this
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propaganda about fraternal nations is, it worked, even now, when in russia they start from it gradually refuse, and when they begin to sincerely hate, openly hate ukrainians, i think that this at least cuts off and destroys any bridges with the past, and for ukrainians, for the part that believed in fraternal nations, it will become finally clear that no, we are not brotherly peoples, that we are very different peoples, that we have civilizational difference and... that really the only thing we can do good with the russians is to put a huge wall and an armed army next to russia and then everything will be fine, that's why all this propaganda, it will eventually come to the thesis that russia is forced will change their mythologies, i don't know what they will come up with, but as we can see, they will definitely come up with different absurdities, because everything they say is usually absurd, but we started talking about terrorists who... made a terrorist attack in moscow, and this is also a very
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telling and absurd fact, it will surely happen the first case in the history of terrorism, when terrorists openly admit that they committed a crime, and so to speak, the victim of a crime, well, in this case, russia, against whom the crime was committed, stubbornly says: no, it's not you, it's someone else, so how as a rule, the country against which a terrorist attack was committed immediately tries to catch those who did it and accuse them, and... here it is the first time when they tell those who committed this crime: no, it's not you, it was done by another country, i.e. i am leading to what absurdity the russian can come up with propaganda, therefore, having destroyed the myth of a common historical past between ukraine and russia, i think that russia will also come up with something absolutely absurd, well, here it is also worth noting that the state itself is a terrorist, that is, against which an act of terror was committed. and they
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claim to be the number one terrorist, well, they are not, well, how do they behave as the number one terrorist in the world, led by putin, and tries to transfer the role of the aggressor from themselves to ukraine, and to appear in front of the world in the role of a victim, well, this is also probably new in modern history but what putin will not achieve and what putin will not achieve. will not be able to take and annex our history with our cities, historical monuments and all that is actually the property of the ukrainian people, will this not lead, maxime, to a new aggression by putin, in relation to kyiv, for example, or in relation to odesa, yet more, i mean, when he says, well then don't let kyiv, let odesa never reach. then we will
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treat them the way they treat ukrafascists, as they say, that is, they will all be the same for us, well, that's all we can do. so to speak, divination on coffee grounds and arguing on expert panels, we putin or his political technologists do everything possible to ensure that no one can ever predict what putin will do or what he will say, so it is a thankless task, but i would like to draw attention to the fact that this will turn again , returning to... the culmination of this hatred, whether we are already, or we are already its object, and putin's propaganda and putin's regime, as its subject and author, or we have already passed the climax together or not, whether there will be any, so be it say, the receding wave of this hysteria in russia
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in the near future, this is an important issue in general, but it has such, for me, for example, an indicative function, that is, in essence... in essence, the situation does not change, because everything that can for the destruction of ukraine putin has already involved and will continue to involve, regardless of what he will say, but this hysteria, this hysteria, it may indicate that we are approaching a certain climax in this plot, about in the plot about the threat and a possible truce' i. actually, the fact that the russian army just after the new year, there stormed avdiivka near bakhmut and so on and so forth, in the worst weather conditions, unprepared units, meat assaults, well, on the one hand
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, it could be explained by the approaching elections, that is, the presidential so-called elections in russia, but it seems to me that... and his regime nevertheless hopes that in the near future, perhaps in the summer, perhaps during the period of preparation for the american presidential elections, it will still be possible to incline the west to some, well, relatively speaking, as its main opponent agreement, before so that the west agrees to give something to putin and not to destroy it. no no, not to wipe out his regime with the hands of ukrainians, or russians and so on, there is a lot to indicate, and this hysteria is raising the stakes to the maximum to the maximum height,
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and this falsetto, which we hear in the intonations of medvedev, there is simonyan and so on further, he may point to the fact that ... the russians are approaching some of their culmination, subconsciously or consciously, and they hope that something will change in this culmination. er, well, this is my feeling, this is a hypothesis, but it is can explain, er, the current situation. if they were preparing to methodically destroy ukraine there for many years without respite. well, and... i think they would have behaved somehow differently, it would have been some other rhetoric and some other tactics, including on the battlefield, and now this is raising the stakes, it prompts some such theories, well, about which i said, not
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entirely conspiratorial, but not everything, not everything, not everything is as obvious as it seems to us, thank you maxim, friends, i... let me remind you that we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are watching us live there now, please like this video, subscribe to our youtube and facebook pages. in addition, we conduct a survey during the broadcast, asking you whether ukraine will receive an invitation to join nato in the 24th year. yes, no, please vote on youtube, either yes or no, leave your comments below this video. if you watch us on tv, take it. smartphone or phone and vote if you think that ukraine will receive an invitation to join nato in the 24th year 0821 381, no 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results
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of this vote. i remind you that today we have maksym rozumny and serhiy taran on the air, we are talking about russia, about ukraine, about the future of the ukrainian state, about the future. of the ukrainian information space, since it is clear that in the conditions when the russians attack us quite actively in messengers, telegram and various e. social networks and try to somehow influence ukrainians and distort our vision of what is happening in ukraine, it is important for us to have the resources to oppose russian propagandists, the head of the committee on freedom of speech of the verkhovna rada , yaroslav yurchyshyn, believes that this year can become the only news is decisive for the telethon, because in the current format it loses the trust of the viewers, if by the end of the 24th year, yaroslav says. yurchyshyn: it will not be demonstrated that the only marathon has changed the format, that there is a balance, there are unbrave news from
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the front, that people 's trust is restored again, then we will have to think about the end, because we now see an inexorable track of using a single telethon and an outgoing track of using social networks, and then it will be even more difficult to explain to our international partners and our own people why we finance an ineffective information policy. serhiy, how are you... and what the united telethon is doing, and how effective the information policy is now in ukraine in order to deliver the main messages to ukrainians, it is clear that during war, ukrainians should understand what is happening, what they should prepare for and what conclusions they should draw, we have passed two years, well, of course, the telethon does not fulfill the role it was supposed to play. and by the way, if we are talking about social networks, then, as we can see, from all sociological surveys,
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ukrainians get the most political information now from telegram channels, not from the marathon, not from television, but from telegram channels. well, father is the verdict of the national marathon, and i would not say that it is a very good and pleasant verdict for all, because telegram channels, if they are anonymous, they have an absolutely irresponsible attitude towards that information. publishes and can be used by anyone. i believe, for example, that the telegram channel deserves some trust, it must necessarily have some kind of signature, well, at least people should associate it with some organization or structure, so that there is responsibility, and if there is no responsibility, well, then such information should be trusted it will be difficult, but the fact that people trust telegram channels more now anonymous, where any information is thrown, this is a direct result of the lack of effects. tive telethon, the absence of any effective information policy at all. i believe that the telethon should
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have been abandoned at least a year ago. of course, during martial law it is important to have some kind of censorship, but this censorship should only concern matters of a military nature. so, when journalists write about military issues, of course, during military operations, there can be censorship, but if the matter touches, an example of corruption, some issues, which are related to the transparency of the government, why is there this censorship that forces the government to introduce the rules that are introduced at the telethon, they work, moreover, if censorship is introduced on such an issue that affects the transparency of the government and censorship, it harms the country's defense capability, look, we sometimes have investigations into some unpleasant stories in that... including those related to corruption, and this affects very often the military sector, where as
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it turned out, later, someone stole something, and this wrong, why should it be found out somewhere, it can be found out in all mass media without introducing any censorship rules, moreover, look at what kind of news in our country becomes so popular, as a rule, these news first appear in foreign mass media, very often, for example, if there is somewhere ' this is instantly reprinted in ukraine. the influence of foreign media on ukraine is now greater than ever. why does this happen? well, this is because our information policy does not encourage ukrainians to trust the national marathon, and therefore they trust foreign media. it's also not quite right, well, with all due respect to the western world, but it's still not quite right during martial law. therefore , the policy of the telethon harms, objectively harms the security situation in the country, therefore this
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situation must be changed, and of course we need to abandon the telethon, we obviously need to restore freedom for all tv channels, while introducing very clear rules of military censorship regarding those materials, which can harm the country's defense capabilities. to things, this is exactly the approach implemented, for example, in the country of israel, but israel has... censorship, but it touches military issues, not political ones, and it touches many issues, you can talk about a lot in israel, there are even elements political activity, literally. but the other day there were protests against prime minister netanyahu, absolutely not characterizing whether it is there, whether it is right or wrong, i will say that there are political freedoms and there is no political censorship, i think that ukraine should abandon political censorship during military operations by introducing military censorship, and understand that if this is not done,
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ukrainians will still look for information somewhere, but it is better if it is our domestic mass media, and not... well, here is the topic of anonymous telegram channels is now a rumor, and actually advocates the idea that people's deputy of ukraine mykola knyazhytsky should be regulated , after all, these telegram channels that exist in ukraine should be regulated, but not banned, but the regulator has a council from the national council of tv. broadcast has the right to ask telegram representatives there about the activities of certain channels that are working, and it is possible that those channels are harmful to ukraine, to limit the activity of these telegram channels in some way. maxim, do you think that this will not be perceived as censorship, and considering the fact that the telegram channel is now really, or as a resource, a service, it has become
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one of those messengers that every person has, and we through tele. channels, we will learn operational information, including when russia is shelling, where the shaheds are flying and everything else? well , actually, the point is in the details here, because it is clear that we cannot follow the path of china or the russian federation or iran and install some sort of gateways, so to speak, that would not... prevent part of the information from of our fellow citizens, whether some information platforms were banned, firstly, they will still be bypassed, secondly, it seems as if it does not correspond to democratic principles and freedom of speech, but at the same time, of course, one must be aware of the
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potential and real harm that they can cause certain no channels, including telegram channels, it must be clearly identified and certain regulatory mechanisms must be clearly established, which are actually in question, this is actually a very difficult task both legislatively and at the expert level, because everything will depend on what powers these bodies receive, which will authorized to actually regulate, what will they have the right to do? to make, close, fine, find, the owner or the author and bring him to justice, all this in connection with the activities of anonymous telegram channels, for example, it will be very difficult to do, i i think that here, after all
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, the concept of national security should become a conceptual, procedural, and legislative basis, but we need to move away from it. to hide and actually in this field to look for those criteria according to which certain sanctions and restrictions on the activity of certain information sources can be imposed, and those tools that should operate in this field. the protection of national security is something that is understood by society, and in principle, this is where relatively clear tools and ... rules apply. thank you maxim. another short one news, or rather, a message from the fifth president of ukraine, petro poroshenko, that he is planning to run for the presidency of ukraine again, but for this we need to end the war in a hurry. poroshenko gave an interview to the al-jazeera channel, and in fact, it was broadcast on this channel. let's listen to what
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poroshenko said. if you ask me. do i plan to participate in the next election? yes, but first, we need a victory for this election. secondly, i am absolutely sure that i will participate in the elections to the european parliament. and this will prove that ukraine will be a member of the european union. and most likely, i will have the honor to be a member of the european parliament and do everything in my power for you. sergey, how do you assess the prospects. re-election as president of ukraine after our victory? i think all responsible politicians in ukraine who are currently involved in politics will say that they will continue their political actions. it is absolutely normal if they are involved in politics, as a rule, they will continue to be involved. do politicians have a chance to become
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president and does poroshenko have a chance to become president president, it definitely is, because in any case, a very serious reformatting of all political processes in ukraine will now take place. after the end of the war, or after the end of at least this phase of hostilities, when er... citizens will be able to speak more freely, a lot of pleasant and unpleasant issues from the years when ukraine was at war will come out, and a lot of issues related to the preparation for of this war, and i think that many different and pleasant and unpleasant things will be done for many citizens discoveries, therefore, of course, in such a situation , everyone, including petro poroshenko, has a chance to become president again, i generally think that it would be very good if we finally... waited for the elections to be the biggest problem in ukraine, and you and i discussed who has more chances, who has less, because now we see that these political processes, for us, they are
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still, unfortunately, very far away, of course, there are objective reasons for this, military actions, but really wanted them to finally end and we finally got back to stable democracy, where there are different politicians, where they compete with each other, where it is perceived as a completely normal process, the most... what i like about what i heard is that poroshenko, i hope, not only poroshenko, understands , that sooner or later there will definitely be elections to the european parliament in ukraine, and i expect this no less than the end of hostilities and a return to democratic processes, i would very much like ukraine to finally become a participant in european processes, we have and european elections, this would lay the foundations for the sustainable development of ukraine. and would make it impossible to repeat a new war, so elections and politics will of course return to ukraine, but i would like it to happen sooner, for
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now, unfortunately, we cannot say when. thank you, maksym, russia is now quite actively pedaling the question of zelenskyi’s legitimacy or illegitimacy, exactly as predicted by the main intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense of ukraine, that they are trying to... somehow question the legitimacy of zelenskyi after 20 on may 24th, what would you advise the ukrainian authorities to do in this situation, because obviously, there should probably be a conclusion of the constitutional court regarding the extension of zelenskyi's powers, that's one thing, well, that's in my opinion, and the second thing is probably that putin is illegitimate and pump this topic. because he was elected in the territories, temporarily occupied territories, ukrainian territories, and this also calls into question the legitimacy of the russian president, what else
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could be advised to the ukrainian authorities to more actively oppose this story about illegitimacy of zelenskyi? well, i think that it is necessary to give very simple, clear and obvious answers, er... they consist in the fact that these answers to the question that ukrainian legislation does not contradict the fact that zelenskyi's presidential term is extended after the end of this five-year term term, and this must be confirmed by the constitutional court, if it is not obvious enough that zelensky does not plan. so to speak, to usurp power, and elections will be held immediately, as soon as the appropriate conditions for this arise, and that in the country
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democracy is preserved, freedom of speech is preserved, so to speak, freedom of political expression is preserved, i think all this will be convincing enough so that doubts about the legitimacy of the ukrainian government do not arise in ukrainian society. not in european, in western societies that actually profess the values ​​of democracy, and as for, so to speak, the reverse of our influence on the russian situation, it seems to me that such a ping-pong is already starting here, because precisely, doubts in putin's legitimacy, which, by the way, is supported not only by the fact that the elections were partially held. in the occupied territories, by many other factors as well, such as the killing of political opponents, such as the so-called changes to the so-called constitution of the russian
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federation. and where i am not talking about the freedom of political movements, there are foreign agents, the suppression of freedom of speech, in a word, this whole set of political life in the russian federation, it is sufficient to recognize putin as a usurper of power, and for that , so to speak say, this situation somehow to divert the attention of the world public, including the russians, to... this myth about the illegitimacy of the ukrainian government, thank you, thank you, maksym rozumny, serhiy taran were guests of today's program, gentlemen, i thank you for participating in the program, during our broadcast we conducted a poll, we asked you, friends, whether , in your opinion, ukraine will receive an invitation to join nato in the 24th year, 24% yes, 706% no, these are the results of a television poll,
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