[000:00:00;00] yes, on the granite, yes, on the granite, yes, yes, uh, so, obviously, obviously, they count the maidan of the fourth and 14th year, uh, you said that if the citizens want, they will go out into the street , can something provoke ukrainians now to take to the streets, realizing how dangerous it is during the war, uh, it seems to me that we are already a sufficiently mature and mature society, and you... to the maidan during the war, we could b on one condition: if the authorities suddenly decided to enter into some agreements with russia, for which we did not give them a mandate, but if the authorities decided, well by and large , to capitulate in one form or another, but then the maidan would be possible, because then it would be more evil than a lost war. under all other conditions, i believe that we are old enough not to change the government during the war, even if it

makes some mistakes, even ... that we are not satisfied with many things, but we will wait for the first elections after the war and we will have our say there. well, after all, there are signs that the authorities would like to capitulate and come to an agreement with russia, well, after march-april last year, when the istanbul agreements were discussed, since that time, well, personally, i have not seen a single moment that would show that the authorities are thinking at least a little in this direction, it seems to me that our authorities are now absolutely firm, yes, even if not immediately, even if due to their own mistakes, but the authorities, as well as the whole society, understood that an agreement with the russians is death, that any agreement with the russians will be exclusively a throw from their side and after that, the destruction and absorption of our country, i do not see any signs of capitulations, or some kind of negotiators, but it seems to me that no other reason would have brought people to the streets, thank you, mr. yevgeny, for including

on our air, this yevhen the wild was a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. friends, we are live on the channel and also on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms, please make sure to like this video so that it can be trended on youtube and facebook, well, vote in our poll, because today we ask you about this, whether there are reasons for going to the maidan, if you watch us on the tv channel and on television. then you can vote by phone, for those who think there are reasons to go to the maidan, phone 0800 211-381, no, 0800 211-382, call, all calls are free for you, it is important for us to know your opinion, those who is watching us now on youtube, everything is quite simple there, you choose the options yes, no, or write in the comments what you think about whether there are reasons to go to the maidan, or not, or

during...' during the war not you need to do this, then we have an officer of the armed forces on call of ukraine, special appointee, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, major of the armed forces of ukraine, ihor lapin. mr. major, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our air. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, because i ask our tv viewers who watch us both on the tv channel and on social networks and on youtube, whether they see reasons to go to the maidan, i will ask you if there are such reasons, and if they will be, then what will be the reasons? well, look, well, this reason can only be in the sick imagination of those who pushed this information into ears of our president, well, the thing is, i already said once, this is not my quote , this is a quote from andriy parobi, who said: maidan

cannot be organized, it can be, cannot be assembled, it cannot be bought, it can be... only hear, those people who know how to hear, listen to the maidan, that's the only thing they can do, but any other actions in relation to the maidan, they are impossible. i am very sorry that zelsky does not know how to count to four, because after all , the revolution is on the granite, 2004, 2014, well if we are talking about the next one, then it will already be the fourth, although in principle, what is the difference, i do not see reasons that could raise people today. well, first of all, corruption scandals, so this is really infuriating, but we see some isolated steps of the work of our anti-corruption bodies, despite what we see, of course, how corrupt officials, going to a deal with the investigation, are actually bought off by such, you know, small scare, and that's all, but nevertheless, we still hope that with a change of power it will still reach logical conclusion, i am talking about

corruption today. the fight, well, the anti-corruption fight, as for other possibilities that could bring people to the square, well , let's be honest, a step in the direction of the russians. can bring people out and it will no longer be the square of the classic version of rallies and protests, it will be rivers of blood, today the authorities are taking this step in the direction of the russians, i do not see it, of course i am sorry to listen to president zelensky, who on the one hand also patriotically declared that he is ready waging war by 2030, yes, that's what it looks like the phrase that he will not speak with putin, and the president of russia putin is now going to run for office again and he will still sit there... until the 30th, well, if he does not go before, to bozinka for the court, but nevertheless, he is going to be there to lead us like an elephant by the trunk, whether there will be a double or a triple , well, it does not matter, the russian system will work, imprisoned under the czar-father putin,

and therefore zelensky is ready to fight until the 30th year, then i wanted would ask, on whose shoulders he is ready to fight until the 30th year, on on the shoulders of those who joined the army in the 22nd, we will not reach it, they will end earlier. and the completely failed communication with society deprived the fat back, emotions and fear, and he does not break into military commissars, in kyiv i do not see that the army is in military commissars somewhere in traffic jams, or near sports halls, or near the supreme council, where a bunch of guards are standing, healthy, strong, private security of this or that company to be mobilized, that is , the fat, well-fed rear keeps zelensky in such a warm bath that everything is calm here, the military commissars do not catch anyone here, in kyiv, there are more traffic jams than before the war, the pppo is colossal, the best, one of the best in europe, well, what are the reasons that can stir up the people of kyiv today, well

, the people of kyiv can stir up, but now i think the population of kyiv consists of more from kharkiv, dnipro license plates, i look, there are donetsk, luhansk license plates, i see very few kyiv license plates, even in traffic jams, when i'm in kyiv, that's why this story is because you can lead people to the maidan, for today it's just evasion towards the surrender of national interests, but as a rule, all those who can, are able to go to the maidan, they are all on the front lines now , well, they are either crippled at home, or they are being treated somewhere and so on, that is, those who know how to do, as they say, understand all these processes , they are busy with the war against the russian occupation, and they are not going to the maidans today, so who is scared, who scared zelensky so much? well, probably just a sick imagination of that whisperer who whispered to him there, and now under the noise, well, zelennyansky

will take out a checker and walk, wave it, don’t wave it, there to cut off heads at the request of these or other whisperers, well, they will say, but this one is bad, and because he must have staged a military coup there somewhere, let us fire him there, let him also walk, and they will lead him, well, if not enough mind to understand to the end. he has such from an attempt to get a checker, well, an attack on the armed forces of ukraine, remember, i once said, we will be accused that we did not fight like that, did not hold the defense like that, did not counterattack like that, well, today we have different types of half-hearted booths there, as i consider them so, i consider those shevchenko himself under budanov's umbrella, or the same propagandists of yesterday's medvedchuk tv channels , like the karasivs, today they attack the industrious, the industrious is bad, commands , various types of crazy torpedoes or insane lunatics pop out, they pop out, attack the armed forces of ukraine, well, such now there are many who are throwing at us from the office, from the bank, but why is all this being done, well

, i'll tell you, the first is to cover up the completely total failure of foreign policy, we today we have elections in the united states, in which the ukrainian card is already being played, we saw how the ukrainian card was played, thank god that it lost. in the elections in poland, we see how in slovakia fico came to power precisely on the criticism of aid to ukraine, the next year, elections in 47 countries, the anti-putin coalition will be busy with their internal problems of election campaigns, there 24-25th year, in the same elections will be held in the states, and the main driver of aid to ukraine, today the states are actually paralysed by this aid, and the green team i went, i thought that money would fall from the sky for many, many years, the first year they gave, but they did not invest this money in non-stop 24/7 production of everything necessary for the army, they spent it all in an unknown place,

and so now we have a problem, there are not enough projectiles, and they haven’t made their own, well, they reported very nicely in december 22nd, kamyshin together with oboronprom husiv went there, they said that they had set up the production lines, how many they produced for one day of combat, for a year, and how do they collect? 365 more days to fight and the money is running out, therefore, covering up his total failure in foreign policy, and i have already said more than once, well, zelskyi won't have time to visit stas. country, our diplomatic troops should be landed, as i said, specialists who know the language, who can go out, well, you can’t imagine what my friends from america who watched the program of yermak’s speech write to me, well, those who understand, then more it's half-assed, and those who don't understand say, who was that, well, you start explaining to them the job duties of this person, it's even, well, you understand that, a government delegation is coming, well, but the government delegation is a screen for ermak's trip and he... appears today on the republican tv channel, where everything should have been clear, as they say,

jump from the teeth, i'm not talking about the english language, i know it worse for yermak, that's why i don't go to english-language channels, but nevertheless, either through a translator, or not at all, if you're boom-boom, but nevertheless, it gets out and starts to represent ukraine, and i think, wait, so in we have the secretary of the national security council, who said: shmyhalal, zelenskyi, stefanchuk, all the others are military, all the others are tourists in striped swimsuits, that is, a tourist in a swimsuit goes on an american tv channel, where today it is the republicans who are giving aid to ukraine, it is the trumpists, and he goes on that channel, and what, and what did he say there , do not worry about your money being under control, against the background of corruption scandals from shurma, starting with all the others there , ending with kirill tymoshenko, well, listen, well, this is simply absurd, but at the same time , there are shevchenko jackets, there is a jacket zhovkva is there and they are starting to attack for su, for what, because the lunatic said that a static

front is our death, listen, lapin says this all the time, well, let them attack me already, the question is not even about the lunatic, i see that these attacks will lead to the fact that one day we will wake up and zaluzhny will be released from his position, by the way, about zaluzhny and the commanders with whom he works, with whom he fights, and znaivsky, with tornavskyi and with ostashchenko, was the story that appeared in the magazine last week: information about what her want to release, ostashchenko was still released, despite all the denials from the ministry of defense of ukraine, and zelskyi explained it in this way, let's listen, we need a fundamentally new level of medical support for our soldiers, from high-quality turnstiles to full digitalization and transparency of supply from high-quality training for sincere communication with combat medics in those units where medicine is deployed

really correctly and really effectively. the experience of the effectiveness of specific units should be spread to all defense forces. i would, sir igor, i would least like to analyze ostashchenko's work there. there are many questions about the commander of the medical forces, this is the first brigadier general, the first commander, the female commander, the first commander. forces in the armed forces of ukraine, but when they talked about the fact that they wanted to release the three commanders, they denied it, said that this could not happen, despite the fact that i understand that the information appeared and this information was also among valeriy's entourage deserving, judging by the publications i've seen, well, at least, and that means this one the package was being prepared for release, so far naev has not been released, tarnavskyi has not

been released yet. how can you explain in this situation? well, that is, the commander-in-chief can do everything , as i understand it correctly, including dismissing a meritorious person, so legally he has the full right to dismiss including a meritorious person and, in principle , no one can take this right away from him, because it is prescribed by law. as for ostasha, she should not be released, she should be imprisoned, because for her treatment protocols, for those turnstiles, for all that trouble, she brought so much trouble to the armed forces that the deaths that the poor leadership brought upon her, they are not justified by anything, she should not be smeared with a simple dismissal, she should simply go to the interrogations at the dbbr, like a military serviceman, go to the interrogations at the dbbr, and it will be a demonstrative matter if she will be, and if as of today they will only limit themselves to the release , then this is a complete sham, now about naiv and about the release of the attempt to release naev and tornavskyi, well, you understand when you are told in your ears, on the banks, that the military

they are preparing a coup, and then they put these or other surnames into your ears, then zelenskyi does that, he comes out with a checker so kicked at the poor guy, well, there is something there, maybe the calls from the states worked, maybe there were some other informational pretexts that worked. , then such a hop, now i’m naïve there with tornavskyi there, man, tarnavskyi, damn it, he’s the hero of ukraine, but no, well, somehow it doesn’t work out, well he crawled away, but they wanted to do it as a package, under the guise of what that rascal ostashchenko, well, here we are we are choosing, but under its umbrella, we will also remove naiva and tarnavsk, and now i want to say that i believe that in general, such a question should not be decided by the umer jacket, it is not for him to fight with them, it is not the umer jacket who should decide who, how is it that, or in command, umeru's jacket should be responsible for providing the armed forces of ukraine, yermak's jacket should only be responsible for ensuring that there is water in the cooler and that coffee is served to the president on time, if

he does not sleep at night, you understand, in our country today day will try of course hang all the responsibility, as i already said, that we did not fight like that. and that's all, but the lies that today's manipulations are engaged in, that the president's office is engaged in today together with his protege umerov, i want to say, remind everyone, maybe someone has a very short flash drive in their head, we all just talked about the maidan, about possible betrayal of national interests, i watched it, before that my brother, zhenya dykyi, also said that there were risks in march 22 of the year in turkey, true, but let's see the composition of the delegation, and wasn't there a representative of the crimean tatars there? who was not even indignant about putting the issue of crimea behind bars for another 15 years, not even toimerov was there, no, i am not talking about podolyak, who went to meet his colonel gru, podolyak's brother from moscow, this is what they have already grown up there , everyone already knows this, but i emphasize once again,

wasn’t it toyrov who went to tell and agree to the conditions of russia, denazification, demilitarization, crimea in brackets, restrictions the number of... troops in the armed forces, there was so much betrayal, that is, we were here, excuse me, washed in blood, under the hostomis airport at a time when they were ready to betray our interests, but i am more interested in that, and that that today the jacket decides with whom zaluzhny will fight, well, this is completely absurd, well, at the very least, he should agree with his superiors, with the commander-in-chief, well, remember the release of khorenk, zaluzhny did not even know that he already has a sso commander, not the one with whom he planned yesterday into surgery, he just woke up well, i opened the news and found out, it’s a great topic, yes, we are going to win, and finally, listen, well, the green team, they are carrying the peace formula from ukraine, i don’t see the formula for victory, they are like that fool they walk around with a written bag with the peace formula, they shove those 10 points to everyone and tell them that this is such a breakthrough,

there is no word nato in those 10 points, and it really annoys me, so if you don't know how to win, then go to the ukrainian society and tell the truth, with such schedules, with this single marathon, which relaxed the fat rear and actually broke the emotion of fear and forced you not to go to the military commissars, we will not win, that is why good people , i will tell you honestly, i am the president of ukraine, i see the formula for our victory like this, because the border of 1991 , this is not a russian flag into space, the russians will not fly anywhere into space, even if we do. to the border of 1991, on whose shoulders we are gathering, and therefore i will do so and so and so and so and so and so and so and so, and now we will not catch mobilization by the beads, here i give 24 hours here the legislators have make a law, vote criminal responsibility for not updating

the data and everything, and we will not have taxis from donetsk here now, charging in kyiv and drowning for the russian language, that is. it will be then, a great country will stand up and fight for its independence for the whole of ukraine, then it will be clear , and they are walking around, they are talking about some kind of peace plan , what kind of peace plan are you going to send those russians into space, or the rockets will stop flying, no warm bath has been formed for zelenskyi in kyiv, there will be no rallies, military commissars, military commissars do not run after anyone, there are traffic jams in the cities, he passes by the traffic jams by car or by helicopter there with security and so on, he is fine. mr. igor, today the cabinet of ministers dismissed yuriy shigol from the post of the head of the state service for special communication and information protection of ukraine, he and his deputy are accused of having seized a particularly large amount of budget funds, for a total amount of

over uah 62 million, and nabusa says that this takeover took place in 2000, in the 21st year they bought software provision for the creation of systems of protected data registers, and the winner of the tender was a company allegedly controlled by a goldfinch , well, i have a rather simple question, people, a simple question to you as a person to a military person, as to a major of the armed forces of ukraine, this person is engaged in a special communication with us language, and steals 62 million uah on this very connection and on these programs, i have a completely logical question, zelenskyy is talking about a special operation of russia under the code name maidan-3, and the people who work for him... in the government , maybe, if they steal so impiously from the budget, then can't they so impiously

take money from the russians and sell this special communication, or what is encrypted there on the special communication, is also transmitted to zelskyi and the leaders of the ukrainian state. listen, well, in our agency , all the calculations for the fines that we make using the agency are carried out through a small company that is related to russia, what about you? do you want more with this special communication? i don't look at the special forces as something that they can sell this to the russians, they can do that, they would have done it a long time ago, or maybe they have already done it, i don’t know, but i’m looking at something else, you know lately , what spears have been breaking around, i’ll remind you, for your viewers, and for my viewers, i’ve already told this on my channel, we have pdf, a tax on the incomes of individuals who remained on the ground, especially since this tax has been increased at the expense of those military units that are now formed in certain territorial communities, that is, this pddfo, they broke

spears for six months, what about them in local communities to take away, in the same place, billions, well, in principle, those people who went to rallies, they said that drones instead of cobblestones, well, a good slogan , well, drones instead of cobblestones, so according to the idea , this pddfo should go to the manager of funds, namely the ministry of defense, so that it purchases everything that is needed, we open the law that was recently voted by the greens, and this pdf file does not go to the ministry of defense, it goes to the ministry of stratigraphy, where there are no shells, where already a year ago, as i told you, they reported for shells that are not enough even for one day of battle, and the second half where are these funds? he goes, we open the law, so he goes there to the special forces, there will be billions there now, that's why some bad guys who got caught were replaced by others, and now the question of billions, you understand, i think 62 million, it will be like a child's babbling. 2 million dollars, this is compared to the pddfo, which will now come there with those billions, it

will look like children, boys in dirty panties in a sandbox, so i look here for money, and this is already the first swallow, what exactly is this pdf, half of it, which was taken from local communities, those billions of hryvnias, they now they will come right there, to the special forces, that's why there is a change of some stools to other stools, just those who were appointed in the 20th year there in the 21st year...' these were possibly people agreed there by bohdan once there, maybe it was some people coordinated with others there, who was there among us lived there, kirill tymoshenko lived there in the president’s office, the chief was there before the attempt on him, a friend of zelenskyi, yes, but yermak won everyone today, so they will be there today only yermak's people, so there won't be any compromising figures left anywhere, commander horrenko was a purely human budanov, today's ssso commander is a human being. with yermak budanov, you understand, that is, now it can be either yermakovsky, or yermakovsky is someone else's, but yermak is always

present there, well, such is the personnel policy in the state of ukraine today, in our country yermak can give instructions to the prime minister, which we will talk about further, that person who cannot be understood in the states, what his position is, i explained his position to the americans, and at the end they say, yes, no one, yes no one, this is the secretary of the president, bring it, give it to me, scratch it, don't mix it up, but today he is a very ... influential person in ukraine, because zelenskyi has removed himself in this story, today he delegated all these powers to yermak, that is, there are two options, yermak has more compromising material on zelskyi , than kolomoisky, that is why kolomoisky is sitting, and no one will move yermak, well, that’s it, mr. igor, do you think they see this in the same united states of america, because today loy dostin flew in, spoke with zelensky, yermak last week on ... at the head, wanted to say, as a member of the delegation, on

led by yulia sverdenko, the deputy prime minister flew to the united states of america, do they understand what is happening with our personnel and with the powers and what is happening in the president's office with the distribution of roles, they understand, but they have already done so publicly bet on the victory of ukraine, and this... they understand this, they also suffer reputational losses in their countries thanks to these things , well, but they cannot change zelensky's will, as he said, i came with yermak and i will leave with yermak, well they can't influence it they tell zelensky like a cold shower that the applause is over, man, look, either you do something or you don't, what zelensky said in an interview with western media journalists , don't worry, no one cares for american money, the money of american taxpayers he doesn't steal, only ukrainian money is stolen from us, what yermak said on fox news when

he appeared there for an interview in america, what he said. on the republican channel, no one steals american money and aid, everything is under control, so what other reforms do we lack in foreign policy, loyd osin came today, of course, of course, that there are some possible theses related to what zaluzhny voiced for adults, so talk to adults, well, because i don't know, they don't have adults in their house, in the bank , there is not a single adult there, don't even dream of a government of salvation, but a political one... don't even dream of a government of technocrats, well, how, well, how then will yermak come out and that he will give a political prime minister an order to sort things out with some situation, he will be sent, because according to his position he is nobody, well, but i emphasize once again, in our now there is a serious problem, we have now, if we run out of cartridges and shells , we will again go to a guerrilla war, and those people still do not understand that it is necessary to change something

in their internal policy, so as not to embarrass our western partners, in front of their voters on the eve of their elections, well , that's the story, and what should they change, mr. igor, in your opinion, and in what way? well, we have already decided with you that elections cannot be held during a war, so it is necessary to completely reassign the officials, those whom they appointed, and it should be the butycrats, and not the quotas of the political party, that everything is in the name of the greens, they have run out of reserves, with those days, normal people don't even go to work anymore. and those who left were simply used, like rubber products number two, that kaloshch, and that was all, were used and thrown away, well , there were 17 of us under reznik after the egg scandal, young, beautiful, promising volunteers from by deputy minister of defense reznikov, and what did it do, well, that's all, there is no reznikov, not those volunteers, everything is back to normal,

only in the name of yermak, in short, they use normal people as lightning rods for their wraps, but the instinct in them should work sooner or later and this instinct of self-preservation should tell them, if we can't re-elect you, then give people a chance to breathe at the expense of that , that you will change and dismiss what you appointed, that is, the appointed official does not need to go to the elections, he can be dismissed by presidential decree, yes, thank you, mr. igor, for the conversation, it was igor lapin, a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a special appointee, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation. friends, we are working live on telekanaluso, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. literally in 15 minutes , we will go on the air with the second part of our program, and during the second air, we will also ask you about whether there are reasons to go to the maidan today. yes, no , please vote for us on youtube, everything is quite simple there, yes, no, or your option,

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