[000:00:00;00] this month but it is possible later because we are expecting critical supplies of western weapons, we are counting on it and we are mentally and physically preparing for a powerful access thank you thank you for your opinion this was yaroslav lysenko a fighter of the third battalion of operational assignment svoboda as part of the rapid response brigade we don't fix the border of the national guard of ukraine . point your smartphone and join our gathering very quickly, we need to collect another 2 million hryvnias. i hope we will do it in the near future and greatly improve

the ability of our army to destroy the invaders , and now serhiy rudenko and his team are taking over the baton on the espresso tv channel. i congratulate serhiy olga literally in a few seconds the verdict glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today march 29, 399th day of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers volodymyr zelenskyi invited sizinpin to visit, and today is the day of the eviction of the moscow priests from the kiev-pechersk lavra, the russians took two-thirds of the bahmut, analysts of the institute for the study of war in the united states of america report, meanwhile, russian troops continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of this morning on march 29, russia already

lost 172,340 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 610 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians already lost 3,609 tanks in ukraine, 6,966 fighting men armored vehicles , 659 artillery systems, 526 tractor salvo fire systems, 277 air defense systems, 306 aircraft, 291 helicopters, 5,507 units of automotive equipment, 17 ships, boats, 911 cruise missiles, 2,239 drones, 288 units of special equipment. and zelenskyi is waiting for the

guest of sizinpinnya . communication p oleksii p oleksii good day good health to you and i am glad to see you on our air. congratulations, i am also glad . so, today is a great historical day in ukraine , because today is the day of the liberation of the kyiv-pechersk lavra from moscow priests in accordance with the decision of the ministry of culture e it is precisely the representatives of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate who must leave the lavra. our correspondent dmytro didora is at the scene of the incident, observing what is currently happening near the kyiv-pechersk lavra in the very congratulations to the kyiv-pechersk lavra. please tell me how the situation is there , have the priests already collected their things, or is this work still going on? well, i am watching. a lot of

parishioners of the moscow church or branches of the russian orthodox church have come to the kyiv-pechersk lavra. what is happening there? congratulations to serhiy. congratulations to all the viewers of the espresso channel. so now the service has ended in this church near which we are and the faithful have gone out into the street and are in no hurry to disperse . their only church. we also spoke with one of these believers. unfortunately, you will not be able to hear her, but when i asked her how she identifies herself as a ukrainian, she answered that she identifies herself as an orthodox person, and nationality does not matter to her, also only that we communicated with

by a clergyman of the ukrainian orthodox church and he stated that they are not going to leave the lavra. and the things that were being taken away were relocations and the order of the ministry of culture, there is no reason for them to leave the territory of the lavra, and they also asked me what i would do if i didn't like the contract, i told them that i tore it up and concluded a new one with another tenant, for example, but they said that they might even sue , and suggested that the kiev-pechersk lavra reserve should also sue if they i don't like the presence of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate right here on the territory of the lavra. i also talked to lviv residents and asked them where they will pray if the clergy of the uoc mp leave the territory

of the lavra, let's also hear it will be in the basements let's stay where you want, let's be somewhere, well, ptsu uman, well, there is only that they will go, of course they will go, they can too, i just heard that they say that ptsu is a political organization . they also complained that the ukrainian church is now being divided and even journalists are being told that we are provocateurs or schismatics according to them, and also to remind that on december 31, the uoc mp lease agreement for the upper lavra expired and today, by order of the ministry of culture, they must to leave the lower lavra, but for now we see that some priests are still here and there are sentences that sergiya dmytro cannot stand. another

question. hmm, what is going on? this process , when the law enforcement officers are trying to prevent the moscow priests from entering these premises there is an order of the ministry of culture. it must be carried out, and not only by the executive power. in the ministry of culture, a and e are meant by the moscow popes, because well, it looks like there is a solution. they are not going to leave, and even come here with the police execution of this order or the popes still hope to appeal everything through the court and they will remain in the kyiv-pechersk lavra for the time being, well, as indicated by one of the priests, they will not leave today and will return to the court , and we saw law enforcement officers on na

the entrances to the kyiv -pechersk lavra, some cars were checked, the cars in the trunks were also checked for explosive objects, the believers are not touched, people can calmly a-a be there and go to the territory of the lavra, and we also saw the vicar here today lavra pavla lebedya he came here in his black mercedes and immediately after the divine service everyone was with him and could enter and leave the lavra without any obstacles. of moscow priests from the kyiv-pechersk lavra , mr. oleksiy , i am addressing oleksiy holobusky. i have a question for you as a historian.

territories of the ukrainian state why are they still so eager to defend the russian orthodox church, a branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, why is there no cause-and-effect relationship according to yours ? well, we will not smear everyone, so to speak, i think that a large part of the parishioners of the moscow patriarchate after all, they changed their views, well, at least on the institution itself, so to speak, in this branch of the fsb in ukraine, but listen, for 30 years, 30 years . they have been zombifying the population for 30 years. to orthodoxy yes, of course it has its consequences listen, well, you understand, i was a witness, i have a lot of testimonies and everything else

, all our leaders played all the games with orthodoxy, especially during the election cycles there, and lord, i remember when in this is how it was. it was nufria’s birthday there, and everyone was standing in line, both embroidered and unembroidered, and ultra patriots and not so ultra patriots, and they all stood in one line to congratulate him. i don’t even want to say a word to offend, so to speak. so that’s all here everything is absolutely logical, moreover, i am i will say that considering how much money they have earned in 30 years, they have enough money and for the court decision, it is normal for them, i am absolutely here. to be honest , i even have some doubts. that you are in a bit of a hurry about the historic day. this

historic day may not happen ah, well, you understand when we enter. if it is clearly articulated that these are the enemies of ukraine, it is clearly stated . to fight accordingly yes, it begins to enter into the discussion about freedom, the virus of preaching about everything else . well, of course, this is in the hands of these priests and that church, yes. and i know many people who are supposedly absolutely adequate, well, supposedly adequate. all of them did the appropriate procedures, so to speak, which are carried out by the churches, not only the moscow patriarchate, and they are connected in some way, yes, they feel some kind of responsibility, well, they saw usyk in

the end, yes. well, here is the most famous boxer in our country at the moment, he is also, so to speak, i understand that he is against the eviction of the moscow patriarchate, he is simply not afraid. well , in this regard, he is quite sincere there. support and they are silent, but in the dark there in various other ways, they will of course help, help the moscow priests to work and in the end to stay at the kyiv-pechersk lavra, it is possible. i really hope for the political will of the authorities and law enforcement agencies, including yes, but but but there is a lot but there is still a lot left, i say this process once again, it is so much, everyone is connected to this and how huge money, resources were concentrated there and they

diverged according to well, you understand yes what what what what how is it told to me by the priest i am there in my there is an acquaintance well, hurry, an acquaintance, we just go to one place as a priest of the moscow patriarchate to one sports hall and i say to him well, you will stand there, well , i mean to the death, he says why should i protect these millionaires, i these millionaires i'm not going to defend it. that is, everyone who understands what we're talking about, i know how you are, there is a point, roughly speaking, the restaurant is there at one point where they say that you should be fired because he understands that he earns as much as he won't be used to earning anymore well, of course, what are they, uh, what is the debt for this place called, if they were? well, i understand that it's cynical ,

of course. splashed with gasoline and burned, for example yes in the middle of the lavra well, if he really believed in god, he simply believed in god, i have no doubt in this village he does not believe in we have we have a synchronicity by the way, paul's swan pasha mercedes who says that they will sit at least until easter, that is we will hear by april 16, of course, there is no basis on which no one has presented us with documents that can be changed, so far i have already said that all of this is a lie you have, of course, i was born here and those who should have already left live here, but i would do you and you i don't have a passport, yes, let's go to go somewhere because there are people who hid it on purpose because the passport was lost during the applause, somewhere they wrote that i'm already leaving, that i'm taking out my

family, that's the scheme. that's how he tells you . come to the second apartment, if you 're being brought in today, he's taking you out. but en masse no one, nothing to go to the temple, so you will not know how to leave tomorrow, there will be a service on the third day, then he will be on easter, there will be no document . well, the main one, so to speak. behaves like a businessman , we know that he erected 36 illegal buildings on the territory of the kiev-pechersk lavra, he says that he will not leave there. laurels and in general in ukraine there are a lot of parishes in them, the largest number of parishes throughout the territory of the ukrainian state, this means that we will

keep this network, putin's network, which at any moment can turn into a serious internal front in ukraine, this the network can be used to heat up the situation from the inside, we see many parishioners going to this church. well, we remember that putin spoke to zelensky on the eve of the great invasion and said that what should we talk about , what about donbass. let's talk about the existence of the russian orthodox church and in russian in ukraine, that's about it. i'm ready to say what you say about it, well , the most important thing is danger from the very beginning, because it's a church, so to speak. so it's a religious organization, and here it is, of course, from the point of view the point of view of the legislation, the point of view of the international project, it is very difficult to approach yes, we all know everything perfectly, there is a lot of evidence , but here i will also say that political will was needed many years ago to make them

pariahs, so to speak, of public life , to do well, this is a long job, it should be this law enforcement agencies should have worked. of course, i heard it and they tell it and this is evidence. if, uh, when the believers want to go to the ptu, then or there, forceful methods were used against the hierarchs who wanted to do it, so listen to it, it's more serious an organization with a lot of money, with its power structures and with its support from moscow, so to speak . yes, of course. to say so, will they lose or will we reach a stable situation at

the front? you don't know peace agreements and so on, but this is an ulcer. it will always remain in ukraine until it is liquidated. and you must understand this. to understand at such a, well, not even a polish level, roughly speaking. yes, it is necessary to understand deeply, deeply, this is a phenomenon . i do not see it very often. there is an attempt to cover a certain part of the population with news, and of course the moscow church is not liked, but there is no such thing. well, it seems to me that there is no such thing. it is a deep and completely understandable approach to the moscow patriarchate as a structure that, well, you understand here, so much has already been said about it, so

it is impossible to even repeat what they are now they take away, let's understand, it says that there are a lot of valuable stores , so that everyone who can is found there, from businessmen, politicians, etc. secondly, well, they are not so stupid, yes , they have seen examples when the sbu found various, so to speak, propaganda and materials, apparently these are also taken out by individuals. e cyril to the orthodox in ukraine is something else, they are all this now they will depict, you see, this one speaks ukrainian exclusively they are trying to show that they are such, let's say yes, they are for ukraine against the war , they allegedly sometimes often say yes, but that's all of course, this is a temporary camouflage, so

say solovyov in his program taught the moscow paper, as i already said, how to fight for the moscow skeptic of orthodoxy in ukraine, he sang there in a stupid voice, forgive us for showing this and remove small children from the tv screens, because it is necessary to watch only for the adults of the ugrian schismatic here, the truth is also the people of the orthodox vovku zelenskyi and sodomits to him, well, here the comments are of course superfluous, because there in general well, it is difficult to comment on something here, it is clear, but still , well, how well, here you understand that they

turn everything into a show, well, this is so so to speak, the problem lies in the skirt. i once studied a study of which, well, a couple of years ago, and it’s a wonder that there are fewer wars in russian society and fewer wars between ukrainian society. we have a certain competition, so to speak, with different branches of orthodoxy and the russians. for them, this is a church - these are the ones who know - at the level of the communist party, now the rpc is so to speak in a certain certain document, the alternative is to say yes, that is, they do not invest anything. i am not saying that ukrainians invest, but i am simply saying that involvement in the church in ukraine is higher than in

russia, and this is of course a paradox in principle to a certain extent, if you judge by the picture, yes, they constantly show there talk about own orthodoxy, but in fact, they are less orthodox than the ukrainians themselves. well, in principle, thank god, we have a vitka state, and well, lately, at least, uh, well, they don't flirt publicly with the churches like they used to. the end of the 90s, and regarding the sudomites well, considering that for 10 years, cyril and his entourage have been accused of a very common practice in their monastic life there and elsewhere, that is, this very sin, as for the orthodox sadovskyi, yes, this also looks very ironic

, eh, oleksii what will happen in ukraine if anyway the decision regarding the branch of the russian orthodox church will not be decided at the political level because it is clear that the existence of this church in the form in which it exists is still a political decision, what will happen if , hypothetically, we imagine the victory of ukraine in this war this church remains in the same status or approximately in such a status that as a result we get there in two or three years, this means including the elections, because they will influence the faithful of those who will vote in the presidential and parliamentary elections. what at all orthodoxy in ukraine is, well, here i say. well, just look at the people who, well, except for usyk, of course. yes, this is such an exception that confirms the rules. how many times have i not

been specifically anywhere for the processions? well, we must understand this by dying out part of our the population is simply dying out purely physiologically due to age, so to speak. therefore, this question will be resolved in one way or another in a natural way , to a certain extent , the war did not start on february 24 . of course, it is a huge tragedy and we understand it that way. but they started killing ukrainians in the 14th year, and in the 14th year our territory was also annexed and captured . and what happened in our country, pro-russian parties existed, they felt great , they took part in political life, and then

they appeared in us, when they were already completely or covered , medvedchukovsky appeared, just pro-russian, that is, they were there before that, but so clearly. yes, then it’s fine they blossomed, uh, they had huge ratings. everything was great, and now the shufrichs are sitting in the parliament, and everyone else is sitting, but they didn’t go anywhere, well, yes, there is no faction, supposedly. yes, but they are sitting, they excluded a few people, they sit and vote as they should, as they should so that there is no deep understanding of the enemy, what are they all there to each other, so to speak, godfathers or relatives, or whatever, so to speak, they are all political life, this is what they all created together during the last 30 years, just now in some of them have a contradiction on the question of who is to blame for the fact that putin attacked ukraine, so in principle, i am afraid of this the most, so that, well, even

the conversations are constantly being refined, there are even well-known leaders who are there in two or three weeks until victory they are defending, you don't need to give the russian language to putin, you don't need to pretend russian culture to putin, let's create a normal russia in ukraine and watch our tv. all channels on which ones are they allowed ? something will soon be the winner of a nuclear war and all this is constantly being killed yes what uh and and this then

it will connect simply they then they will connect with each other and it will turn out a war can be won on the battlefield absolutely like that and lose in an internal situation, that is, to talk about an internal struggle, because everything will be forgiven. well, that's right. well, that's right . putin is with us, it was discovered that it was not the russian people who fought this. that they are from ukraine, they have always been simply they look at this country a little differently and on other issues and lord and maybe life will go on until next year, for example, yes , historical well, beyond any doubt, mr. oleksiy , that information policy, including very

important during the russian-ukrainian war, the great ukrainian russian-ukrainian war, you are always a welcome guest on the espresso tv channel, we don't watch other channels, because the channel , in principle, other channels are one channel , an informational telethon, ah, but, obviously, we have to talk about that including information policy and the pro-russian orthodox church branch and collaborators who, unfortunately, are still at large, and you already mentioned it. already be dismantled in the ukrainian government, because every day we are talking not only about deputies of the verkhovna rada of ukraine and about deputies of local councils, and there are a lot of them, and why, according to you , there is no such solution, a political solution, we are constantly faced with the fact that there should be some a political decision, but there are special services that work that clearly understand, including the rpc, because the rpc is not only there, it is a part

of the ideology of the russian world, it is a very large structure, which, as representatives of the ukrainian special services say, deals with smuggling of cigarettes and god knows what else. why why? still, this is the whole system that exists, and it hasn’t been broken, except that it’s boguslaev, but this whole system, as it worked in ukraine, still works, uh, or not we will lose here and in the dry kremlin, because people how they influenced ukrainian politics and influence as representatives, former representatives of the opzzh there repainted as they write laws for us by which we live or support these laws and this will continue to happen when it stops, when the very essence changes ukrainian politics e so far, at the moment we do not have a post of policy, this is not the policy of such a thing, we

have one decision-making center and the others serve it in one way or another, depending on the function, therefore there is no policy here, when i repeat myself once again, these people are not some marginals well, there are some crazy ones. yes, i remember these clubs of russian thought, so to speak, in ukraine, which were financed in the saturnish standard, they just gathered crazy people, wrote out budgets for them, and uh, well, everyone was satisfied, let's say yes, but they didn't influenced i understand that they are, if we put a stamp on them , then they just put it, well, it was completely useless reasons to count, for example, we are talking about people who are completely included in the political system of ukraine, read, well, look at the biography of the boguslavs. well, he was