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tv   Mapped Out  Deutsche Welle  May 1, 2024 1:15am-1:30am CEST

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that's all that we have for now. we'll be back in a few hours with more. in the meantime, you can checks out a lot of the w. com, the code names project, cassandra, re determined through our investigations that has below was operating like a global drug or not. somebody normally theaters, organization, the object to financially drain has gone up and bring them down to the team. agents from the american drug enforcement agency means as well as another whole level. they wanted to go after their money. they had from lies themselves. we needed them to reveal that so world and to their own people. why did the us government suddenly shut down project?
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cassandra in 2016. 03 pod documentary series. i'm asking has paula stats may 4th on d w. the get to him why whole months of the his re election, the president of the democratic republic of congo, felix, the 2 security came to belen look of 0 on occasion for the w to do an interview. mister president, welcome to appropriate for you to me. of the news. mfc made them. what was it look pretty don't nothing. yeah. gong lisa, your country has lots of wells, including strategic minerals, the so called 3 tees, cancel them, tungsten, 10, thought the then stopped just recently. your government's lawyers accused us tech giant apple of using the legally mines minerals in the products that you may know.
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roads that were alleged to be extracted from chronically as mines in transporters and then longer it mainly via wanda upgrade. the accusation goes for the saying that all these alleged activities financed groups in east on t r. c. that's even an ultimatum gulf. and why exactly nipple cause i says, there's optima quite simply, so it may stop. it's been going on for 30 years. ever since the international community last us to open up voters to the influx of refugees fleeing the genocide in rwanda vision. oh, see the one to the i'm on the at that point people involved in the genocide also slipped to see on the, on a fusion. and they entered the d l. c with the web on this because the oldest had been given from somewhere still within the international community and to let them in with that weapons the know that the us under the list down 3. i think that is
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a press law. and down to that, when to was given a rights in pursuit inviting itself into the democratic republic of congo, to hung down these people. a book just as a seizure, no, see there may model is a month. but unfortunately for when to didn't make the distinction. obviously, and so also mastic, good congolese, we though, and since then domestic hasn't ended meaning to the one that they have a got a be number one to discover that they will minerals in the deals. and we take on that. and rolanda make contacts in the international community that enabled it to sell these blood minerals for the the sure. now i found out that the nagondo doesn't mean i you saw the mean i of minerals obtained by using finance against our populations to force them to leave the localities with these
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minerals. in fact, they look at the dollar kid and not getting on to see me and i am definitely low by since then for linda has become the representative of these minerals for the international community for these multi nationals. luckily not that don't us on us for say minutes. the national not who do i need to? yeah, i just mentioned the 1990 is glen rwandan. refugees came cause a book i he was a was already on a now it's 30 years late to another place. off, do you the, this is why i said this been going on searching is authors on today and he's come, come, guy was seeing the presence of u. m. 23 movement, which according to multiple statements by your government is supported by rolanda. do you plan to meet rhonda's, president polk, or gum in the days to come? we are good money is yet to get the there's currently an initiative be taken by
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gold and president bush. well, our end. so who's being appointed mediator in this conflict by the african union? yep. see there's a, there's of a leader and he's already put forward piece initiatives on several occasions. but they've all being sabotaged every single, sabotaged bike government and his regime. the balance on the, the, the, know some of them on down the, if you, if we really, it's a final crossroads. don't that the, there was now what we believed to be a last chance. and i want to give peace a chance as much as possible. during the shots that the fish proceed, but obviously that's not because of weaknesses. and we're not always going to be patient like this wishing piece once i also wait on that, be the 25th of us because of that too. does that mean that you are still prepared as agreed to meet paulk again? is it to show the cause on the home phone?
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what it is? i mean i've always said that i never meet the m $23.00 a month. i'm sure that because as i said, it's an empty shell and it shows a fuck these fabricate to, to justify the aggression against my country on top of the deal. c. o is just a mom is just the feel like, you know, under the, a quantum of the that i am busy make on the day the real aggress. the real criminal is pull coming up. and i want to meet him not to bake him or to negotiate. and the thing with him for the long, it's to ask him and tell him clearly i to why that he's a criminal. that enough is enough now and that his little game is known to everyone is it to me, it's enough. what he's done to my country and my people, and it's time for him to leave the territory, the soil of my country. the 30 to, i'm to, some of them will be it comes, you mentioned the multinational companies apples,
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but maybe others to what do you expect from them cause that on the opposite that may be, i'm is surely. and this is the way that you'll find out the investigations continue to go. so, i mean, the most serious thing is that these minerals are extracted from the congolese subsoil at the price of blood on the as i said by using violence and terror for you to make the populations living in these localities. fleet alfred the san possible at the bottom then that transported a long tray. it was fine motorcycles to relent. but when the law and the, the stumped by an international n g a, we quote all that which obviously itself, segments the fact that the blood minerals pauses them off as if they were minimal, its mind. and orlando passing from they fit by sequences. if they didn't, you know, explain one, it bought i got man pull to gummy,
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even have to go to say once that the cold time and whose country is a better quality than in the d. c. i believe democratic decal. would you please, you know, that was near as it ended? so let's get back to the situation in the democratic republic of congo. but right now we're talking about the minerals being mine to the east of the d all say. so let's focus on the east. according to the o, c, h, a. since the beginning of this year, more than 358000 people have been newly displaced. and they say that the number of displaced people has reached around 7100000. and this is largely due to the armed conflict in the cables and to tories good. what is your response today to the people living in that the space parsons come and look on the keyboard to bring him back? well, just hoping to go home to see to about me i the do if all goes well and i pray to god that it really continues like this. the a tory case will be resolved in the months to come and will be able to smoke the
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piece by is this with data it has to, i don't get enough people that know just be north keyboard, where the issue is the plundering of results is from the d. c. in complicity with certain multi nationals from industrialized countries, not going to be understand, is it supposed to be able to show that something else going on? and so it depends precisely on these countries which are home to these multi nationals, they meet the national now it's up to them to put pressure on these companies to stop this elicit trait because of it so. so one that's a elicit, know some repairs on the phone with the representatives of the d. c some. and we're open till discussions. apparently, we'd rather talk about exchange about when, when partnerships with all these multi nationals, you know, so not then let them make do with this. mccarthy. traffic is not data is taking place at the cost of all citizens like about the surface area of
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a lot of heat the policy by putting on a need. mr. president, jeff just expressed an expectation to the countries that help most multi nationals including the united states, i guess, as long as the kids are in the case of apple. so what exactly are you waiting for? what kind of functions, what kind of influence would the american government have to for the med political, velma, america, and zip. i don't think i can get something i don't know. in this case, what sanctions could be applied? sounds of it's up to the to just reach and think about it. there was surely penalties and convictions for complicity in crimes. it seemed well not. so i'm not expecting a specific sanction so such from den just that goes as long as i know that these are countries with the judiciary is free, independent, efficient on it, does it what this kind of just is to touch this type of traffic and the traffic
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is here to good is a bubble, the companies will, thirty's are ready to only discuss upon the ship to exploit these minerals and when, when model and then back to now. yeah. oh, expedite this is see me in a long time. what they haven't gotten, you know, got, you know, have a mazda, is it because of all these misfortunes, this wealth has cost us. that i have to capitalize on that. by saying we must adult being aligned to extraction, the quite simply data in their big stocks. you onto some from on the pano mean they take home interest that processed elsewhere. and then they come and sell us the finished product, knowing the little bit. and remember, we want to develop our own value chain in the drive ourselves really low as far as possible as it can extend l street a. sit down the path to now. yeah. and then in what i cool does when,
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when partnership stuff goes out. so i think we'll be able to find how much it was ridiculous by creating jobs, south bronx, and tracing wealth. and i did the same time, have partners will also benefit from this publish it. so it will then i'll set up an audio by example. so apple will negotiate directly with the d. c, that's going to be the democratic people, of course, with the democratic republic of congo. why would you want to negotiate with a common c for who's doing business on the backs of the dead congolese? you saw you telephones you have in your countries contain the blood of the conquer least get a phone, a good was of easy, normal be content. another song, big one where they pick on law is and how do you judge the memorandum of understanding that was concluded between the european union and rhonda in february to promote the development of sustainable and resilience value change for role materials that you plan. you have coming up in, it's like awarding
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a prize for war and pillage. you'll be scandalous to the european union, validate such a bargain of file bucket and much on that. it's disgusting, much on the see if they would the system of body do payments. you've just talked about a bonus, but that's a very strong time one that you don't you think about rwanda, the donors. you and then steve, don't you think that rwanda is given more weights than the d. r. c on the international stage would be your best bet. i see when a feedback i see no budget to maybe we got the, the domain vendor. no, not a tool. but look since 2022, when the aggression again, they don't see and we immediately denounced it wake or not. you see that the narrative has changed to come pick a new so it is only been a year and a half since this happened. alara's rolanda has been fooling the whole world for 15
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years and they know that ought to have typed in october. the so you have to give us time to make comments of that complete silence in our country on the ship by the very leaders who built this country. it was already known as on today. my recognize that even the army was completely disjointed. so weakened and disorganized that they was unable to stand up against any kind of regression. it does have plus i have to do is i place you, it's okay. and on who are you planning your whole life for a process of reconciliation, a post that pro says that will lead to peace because of that. and you said that you also wanted peaceful of the people who live in the east of your country in particular with hoping so key on home to keep in your homes. if you say about poke a gamma of what you said about him here, who do you think can be that person that that's one to believe that sort of give you and the surgery was says give them but they both got me. well,
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whoever comes off to pull guns down then he's not a tunnel, just have a baby. i hope that off to him that will be a head of state who can understand the meanings and merits of living in peace with your neighbors or the v bump that makes it was a mess. people have seen certain places, no m f, c, c o, c a o c s i think i got stuck on a piece of bicycle on it. i guess somebody who knew, but i would scroll down. millions of people around the world can't attend school even though the un defines the human rights education for every.

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