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is a case of a german interior minister says if the charges are true, it is an attack on european democracy from with it. so how does china infiltrate democracies like germany and to what ends? i'm quite richardson in berlin and this is the day the, the accusations of espionage for china are very serious. dizziness as we think it's definitely wary. so if any employee was arrested here, hold it to the attention of this kind of height is obvious. it is to smear and suppress china. the so called pet trees are, you know, and showing how weak they are in terms of taking money from autocrats will much smoke. the authorities of germany will abandon their cold war mentality and stopped making claims and espionage threats.
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also on the day after a major push back and delays, the u. k. government passed as a controversial wanted to port migrant. 2 for one to a plan. it says will deter people from dangerous journeys across the english channel. yeah, just hours later, several are dead after board in a crowded boat will not save about stuff because of this we will see more tests. we will say more dangerous risk being taken. um, but yeah, it definitely weren't knocked to the tower. nothing else has. so i don't think, i don't know why people are thinking that this will walk on across western europe. anxiety about chinese aspiring is growing a man working for a prominent german politician from the far right. a f d party has been arrested. prosecutors accused him of passing on information from the european parliament where he works as 2019 and spying on the chinese opposition
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abroad. or this is just a day after 3 germans were arrested on suspicion of hands and over technology with potential new look for you. locations a gym and prosecutors say gen g e can. we can fully named repeatedly post on information to china about confidential discussions that the european parliament jim and media report say this involve debates on security and defense. implications of china is influence on the use critical infrastructure. and he's also accused of spying on people in germany who are opposed to the chinese government. the german citizen has been working as an aid to maximilian crime. he sits in the european parliament for the fall of rights, a f d party crossed said he had no prior knowledge of the rest of his staff member. he promised, if the allegations proved true, genji would be fine on the european parliament to mediately suspended the leg. spy sounds a tough images. i need it. it's really time that we have
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a thorough investigation and information. what is going on there that the so called petri, what's are you know, showing how weak they are in terms of taking money from autocrats from all over the world. we come to gym and chance little up show and visited china. gemini has seen several arrests over suspected espionage. but you, i'm an interior minister says the latest case is significant. the father for dash b and the accusations of espionage for china are very serious. and if it turns out to be true that this espionage took place from within the european parliament, would it be an attack on the internal constitution of democracy in europe passed the types of democrats, he, in all process. china has so far officially denied any involvement in espionage, but as the you prepared for elections to its parliament in june. this incident will add to growing fee is the democratic institutions across europe,
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being targeted by foreign intelligence agencies. here to unpack all the increase of the story is our political correspondence. simon young, simon. good to see you again. tell us more about what this man is accused of. yes, i have a the man arrested today is jim and citizen gen g. and as he said, he is an aide to maximilian cross who is a member of the european parliament at full the far right a half day alternative for germany, a policy. and what he's accused of essentially is pulsing information from internal european parliament discussions back to china. and there's also been the claim that he was involved in spying on a chinese people living in germany. so maximilian crawl says that he knew nothing about any of this. the 1st year of it was from press reports on
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tuesday morning, but he did also signed a statement that spying for a foreign state would be a very serious matter. and if these allegations have proved to be true, it would result in the termination of g n. g's contract as our my media of and reporting that crawl was on german securities radar because of his earlier links to china. what more can we say there or well, i didn't. yeah, absolutely. the meeting today is that been ongoing allegations of links between the sd and russian circles. and you know, this is just one more chapter in that. so i think the intelligence of thought, which is a big concern for a long time, the, these kind of relatively new fall right populous parties are particularly vulnerable to the intelligence efforts in spying espionage by the
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classic states that. and you know, these links with china and russia seem to confirm that assignment is really not typical. is it that you see this kind of arrest in germany let alone the day after 3 other germans were rested on spying allegations? yeah, it's so really being an extraordinary week in terms of uh, you know, allegations of chinese espionage. as you said, uh, just on monday, the 83 german citizens were arrested. the accused of a trying to obtain military information about military technologies and passing that back to chinese intelligence. and so you arrest perhaps a rare because it's said that the chinese, the approach has been relatively cautious in the past. uh,
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but i think good domestic intelligence services here in germany at any rate have been warning for quite a while. that the chinese are willing to use illegal methods to, to promote their ambitions politically, militarily and economically. and what else does this case tell us then about about how tyna gathers intelligence on democracies like germany as well. i think the ortiz believe, as i say, that you know, these kinds of policies, populace parties are susceptible to this kind of infiltration. and i think what this throws off as perhaps having generally at least a debate about a need for types of screening when it comes to a parliamentary aids. that levels have been allegations that there's a lot of links between the parliamentary guides here in the bonus tag and the far right seen. so i think that will, that will be one of the big things coming out of this case. simon,
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thank you. as always, that is our political correspondent, assignment young the council of europe. human rights commission has condemned new legislation in the u. k. that will radically overhaul it's a silent policy. the body's human rights commissioner michael fire to urge the u. k . not to remove people under the policy warning, it infringes onregional independence. the bill was passed by the british parliament and will allow deportations of asylum seekers to per wanda. just after midnight, the 2 year legal and parliamentary stalemate ended with this vote in the house of commons. the i to the right 312. the news to the last 237. so the i have it. i have it. it's a controversial know that has divided opinion in britain and across here as well as
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in the one to some see it as an economic opportunity. and i think it to be good for the mission close to getting, but in there's no nothing that is better than human to copy the quote as we're very grateful to receive the image that's from the u. k. because this will support the countries development. i'm not sure it's correct to the hosting them as an opportunity to us as for wanda and because they have skills which still share with us. so you understand that this is a profit for us of is looking to it's from an ethical and historical perspective of it. why 2 and one is history. we had many refugees created as a result of the genocide against the to the right. and we got help from the neighboring countries. so we support the refugees at that too because we understand deeply it's good for them to come on and good for us to host them on the la hotel.
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now in england. and does is like this man who wish to remain anonymous and not so sure where you're going to find the goals for these people. who uh, so the like we've graduated but we've noted that you had the jobs, we are out there searching for jobs, british prime minister issue. so next phase, the 1st deportation slides, but just a few weeks away. and with immigration, a key issue among voters in europe. it's likely that topic governments will be keeping a close eye on the policy success or failure. let's get across to london for more on this story from our correspondence. charlotte have chosen hill charlotte, can you clarify for our viewers how the government expects this to work? what happens when asylum seekers arrive and wonder, for example?
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yeah, well this is going to impacts people who have arrived in the u. k. illegally. uh, they will be sent as well as a selection of those will be sent to everyone to where they'll have that assignment claims process. now what is the key to this entire legislation? is, is the flight that take home will essentially be a one way tickets, even if aside and claims are submitted in rwanda, this has been sent will have no right to return to the case. not really is, what is, what is key to this. now we know that there's been a lot of legal challenges to this legislation. the supreme court's indeed found that it was previously a law for one of the risks that they highlighted about sending these asylum seekers illegal migrants to for one. that was that they faced the risk of being a returned to that home countries where they may, for example, face persecution. the government though, uh, says that it is address that it signed a new tracy with rwanda,
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which it says addresses that specifically. and we have heard condemnation from rights groups that this policy is inhumane. what are their concerns specifically? absolutely, and i think the critics of this legislation, this was the moment that they had been dreading, and they argued that this is in humane and immoral. uh, there are concerns, they say that this is a breeching international human rights obligations. and there are many people as well who look at this and look at how expensive it is going to be. and really question whether or not it is going to work for those who are full dispos, that the government that case then making is that this will act as a deterrent. they pointed square example today to the case again, the number of people making the very dangerous johnny across the channel who lost
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the lives saying that is exactly what this legislation is designed to prevent. his cases like us, as the counselor argument to that those that, that should be all the measures in place that prevents people making these crossings that this legislation isn't necessary. so, so with that in mind that the government intends for this to be a means of deterrence. an important consideration to take into account is, does this kind of policy actually deter people from coming as well as on tested steps. so it not yet clear that suddenly what the government is arguing, but it is also worth pointing out that the stress of this has been naming for 2 years, 2 years since this was 1st postponed and uh, this year that have been an increasing number of people still willing to make that very dangerous johnny and the critics of this legislation will say, these are people who are prepared to risk their lives. the threats of being sent
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through a one to protect me in the numbers of people that the small numbers of people that we seem to be talking about at the moment is not going to be enough to, to tie them. and once again today, the, the very sad case of these people who lost the lines is, is a poignant reminder of the risks that people are willing to take to make this crossing. because this is on tested, do you think that other governments are going to be watching to see how this policy plays out? will there be international implications for this while other countries in europe, and indeed the us that or looking at how to deal with illegal migration. uh, and indeed the un today, and it's a combination of this policy policy said it was concerned that it would set a dangerous precedent a globally well will be key, of course to this is whether or not it is affective and that is still what remains
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to be seen if indeed when these uh clients do start to take off. just tell us a little bit more about that. we've heard prime minister refused to enact, saying he expects for patients to begin in 10 to 12 weeks with those identify for the 1st flight due to be detained as early as this week. is that a realistic timeline, as a prime minister was very clear. and what he said, he essentially said nothing is going to stop this from happening. he has to state to his premier ship on this. this is a key policy, it will be key policy for him. so failure, protecting, and what's expected to be an election year. it isn't really an option, it clear that you can understand why there is some skepticism he had initially said clients would be taking off in the spring not clearly hasn't happened. this legislation was very delayed. there were a lot of legal fact to link the baffle in parliament as well. so skepticism about about that and then just looking forward as well at how it went slides to take home,
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how long this policy will stay in place. so the opposition label how to expect it to in the next election very against it's charlotte, thank you so much for that. because our correspondent charlotte chosen pill in london and the united states protests against, as well as war and gaza have spread to university campuses across the country. we ignited a longstanding to be over how to balance public safety and free speech at new york university alone. more than a 100 people were arrested at an overnight protest. the university said police were called ask for some protesters breached a barricade. another new york school columbia university just giving students the option of online instruction. for some students reported feeling unsafe on campus. and a protest, griffin, us college campuses, are just the latest example of how the war and casa is inflaming public opinion and
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countries around the world in the us, most divisions are being watched, especially closely in this election year. some pundits are even saying that presidential biden's position, which was unpopular among many democratic voters, could cost him the election of the united states has historically been a strong supporter off as well. it was the 1st to recognize the stage when it was founded in 1948. however, the high number of civilian deaths in the war into his eyes sparked a heated debate and fuel to shift in public opinion. i don't like people even call it is real. i ran a call it netanyahu and his cronies. because i'm sure there are a lot of good people in is real. i'm on know team, but just for it. and i think the, it's the us, his job to encourage their to be a ceasefire over there and stopped supporting the word, subbing weapons and stuff over there. how just disagree with them?
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adult though, because the right prep is ition. take a mazda is just going to track them again, down, mean with tech, talking to instagram, and we get a lot of 1st hand accounts of everything that's happening. so we don't have to rely on just the news. give us information. the media plays a significant role in shaping public opinion, and sarah allison from the washington post, the media expert explains how various media outlets are discussing the war. at the outset, most of the american coverage on mainstream television outlets was really focused on the original attack. overtime we've seen, you know, as the israel, as salt on gaza has gone on for months and months, there is more attention across all platforms on the humanitarian crisis in gaza and the civilian casualties. what we've seen in calling is that there was a real generational divide. now that is, that is opening up an older americans,
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people who have an actual memory of the holocaust or whose parents were involved in the holocaust. i still feel a real commitment and a real obligation to support israel. younger generations have only known a strong israel and israel wins wars. the current trend continues. it stands to reason that that will decrease overtime because our contractors also expose divisions with in the political landscape, especially with in the democratic policy. while 51 percent of democrats say is ro has gone too far. only 11 percent of republicans agree. 38 percent of democrats are in supports to reducing aid for israel, while only 10 percent of republicans want this reduction is president biden. doesn't soon find a way to push is riley prime minister benjamin netanyahu to do more, to minimize civilian casualties. these riley bombard him off, guys
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a could very likely cost him his re election, potentially bringing a president back to the white house for home suffering and gaza. maybe even less for his unwavering support for is let's get across to washington dc for some perspective and speak to us politics analyst list shaka was welcome. on monday joe biden made his 1st public remarks on these protests across college campuses across the united states. in this very sensitive political moments and we heard him calling them anti semitic, is that the reaction that you would expect from the us presidents to july has been incredibly strong on it. so 40 is reno on keeping a watchful eye on protests and calling out where it is anti semitic. so having known some of the present by his past reactions to this,
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i'm not at all surprised. he called this out. there is a lot of footage and a lot of information still coming out of these protests. so i think it is a very complex situation. but if he's saying that he's seeing that i'm, i'm not surprised, he would call it out where he sees it. now we've said that this, this is causing divisions within the democratic party, the issue of israel's war in gaza when the democrats are looking ahead to november . what are they thinking in terms of strategy? it how to approach these campus protests is absolutely, i mean, every thing at this point is heading towards november. i think there's going to be a huge question with in the democratic party. one is they do not want a heated, contested convention in the late summer early fall, which there's been a lot of parallels drawn to 1968 already. which was a very heated contest convention for the democrats and ended up losing the
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presidency. they need to go into the fault unified, that balance of how do we unify needs to be also with who's actually coming out voting for us, who's getting folks to the polls and what therapy. oh, there really huge issues at stake here, bite and has hammered time and time again writes on when it is central to his strategy just today. you know, it's a huge push on climate change. he has done more and then almost any other president on addressing climate change. an interesting investment in infrastructure. so he's gonna have this real trick p balance of. yes, we need to talk about the divisions within the party. we need to take seriously folks that are willing to get out there during protest. well, also when you're standing, there is a lot outside of this one issue at stake with this selection. so you have these major issues with roles. certainly play a huge role in the elections climate change. immigration is another one. of course . i'm curious though, how,
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how much generally foreign policy issues. typically wait on the minds of us voters when they go to the polls. or i'm somebody who's passionate about foreign policy. passionate about the transatlantic alliance, and it breaks my heart a little bit to say every time presidential comes around. it is not ever a tough issue for voters. voters, 1st and foremost, always think with their pocketbooks. how does the economy feel? how does their salary possibly deal? and then we see no real force since 20202018 of women. you know, we're seeing women switch sides we're seeing went in for the 1st time voting because of the attacks on women. and these tend to trump for lack of a better word for it policy. so i think it was a chance. this is such a particular tinderbox of soda or engagement around this specific issue. but i never too hopeful that foreign policy and understanding the
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newer nuances of foreign policy are ever that much of this way on american motors. do you think this is an issue that could died down by the time november rolls around and, and just to follow up a little bit. i mean, this is clearly has been an issue that ignited passions. do think that bite and has done enough to convince voters within his party who are seriously worried about the plight of the palestinians. the question is and, and get it gets to a has he done enough to convince them he's taking it seriously? he has, he's, he's a call for an immediate cease fire, which was one of the initial um, the pushes keys of how i continued intense conversations with netanyahu. about were read lines are about those focusing on humanitarian approaches, reducing civilly and casualties. what he really needs to convince is voters that they should get out in the vote. that is important to continue building for him. i
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think the biggest into this election for the voter apathy and how do you make sure that they're gonna stick with him even though that this is a hard time understanding. he's still working on it and it's worth investing in another 4 years. thank you so much for sharing your insights with us. that is, wasn't focused in washington dc. thank you all to and that is our show for today. don't forget, you can follow our team on social media at the dw news. and if it's the latest headlines you're after, there's always our website is dw dock. com. i'm sorry richardson in berlin for me and the whole team here. thank you so much for watching the
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