of the james m. imwho have national defense authorization act for fiscal year 2023, public law 127-263, i am pleased to appoint the following individual to the commission on the future of the navy. the honorable fhiloman veala of houston, texas. signed sincerely, hakeem jeffries, democratic leader. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to section 3-z of house resolution 5, the house stands adjourned until 9:30 a.m. on friday, april 26, 20 adrianne: the u.s. house gambling out after a brief pro forma session. they will be back in session next week. the senate today is working on a house-approved foreign aid package that would provide funding to israel, ukraine and taiwan. as always, follow live coverage here on c-span.

we take you back now to a live discussion on housing policy with acting hud secretary adrian todman. >> -- and how those rick perry a are distributed? --and how those criteria are distributed? adrianne: so i will show my age just a little bit. i did not play a hand in the creation of continuing care but i was in the building as a much, much younger staffer when the concept was created by the leadership that you just mentioned, and what we tried to do is make sure that the nonprofits who are at the front of helping our un-housed brothers and sisters and neighbors across the country have the resources and the technical assistance that they use. deploying the highest amount of funds ever to them, $3.1 billion with something we are very proud of.

we know that they are working extraordinarily hard, and we always want to make sure that they know that hud is here to help. it is a great concept. it shows off each partnership with the nonprofit and it is work that we continue to support. >> question over there. >> madam secretary, congratulations from the industry. i know there's a lot of comfort in your appointment, so thank you so much. you mentioned indianapolis and the success with reducing homelessness. are there any communities that come to mind with regards to meeting their goals on producing new units? adrianne: that's a great question. i think there are a number of localities were doing that. we know that indianapolis, they are taking some really bold steps some years ago in terms of what they did to remove barriers, and i think that it is

true that they've seen some growth in the number of units that are produced. we know that there are many other cities like charlotte, like austin who whenever you are seeing units being built, units that are affordable as well, i was in nashville not long ago and saw a number of investments that that city was making, using the state funds, but also using some hud tools as well to make sure that they were building. so there's a number of cities across the country who are working very diligently. i think the questions about pace. >> i'm going to just interject. i know there are a couple more audience questions, but this is from the virtual audience on the issue of homelessness. can you speak to the lessons learned from the joint hud supportive housing programs and how they can shape further action on this issue? adrianne: i think we are talking

about the program which is unique. in one department trying to solve a complex issue, imagine having two departments working together to solve a complex issue. that is exactly what they are doing with the program, which, if there is any lesson learned through that, it is that we have the capacity to reduce homelessness in some parts of the country, eliminate homelessness for veterans when properly resourced. with the use, we saw a reduction of veterans homelessness by 50%. 50%. so we know that it can be done. i think that it just shows if we work to expand the voucher program at large, the kind of impact he could have instead of serving one in 4, 1 in five. we are serving substantially more americans. it is a great model of what we can do, and it also -- for the needs that some veterans have

who were coming off the streets. it is a great program, we work very closely with the secretary and his team to make sure that it is >> being done effectively. thank you. >> secretary, congratulations on your new role. i think it is great for the department and the country. building off from the last question, taking a little a different direction, it seems like a lot of the programs at hud and the work that it does currently requires close collaboration partnership with other agencies or other stakeholders on the ground. in the housing finance system, there is a similar need, particularly kind of having an economic recovery act that was enacted during the financial crisis, which created the federal housing finance agency across the street.

hud continues to play a really important role in mortgage finance policy. how do we ensure that there is close coordination and collaboration between those two agencies to ensure that we are kind of responsibly and sustainably expanding access to mortgage credit rather than just kind of shifting share back and forth between hud or fhs a, the va, usta? there are just so many agencies, so i would love to hear your thoughts on how to ensure there is collaboration and coordination in that area. adrianne: thank you. i've got to say that perhaps, and somebody could push back on this, perhaps i don't think there has been as much collaboration as there is out hud and fhsa. sandra thompson has been someone that both the former secretary and now i lean to in terms of

ways that we can strengthen the housing finance system. in fact, she was sitting next to be at my hearing last week before senate banking, so that is collaboration right there. we were darn close. we certainly were collaborative with each other in terms of not just access to credit, but ways in which hud and others can even from a supply perspective, and certainly from a first-time homeowner perspective. there is high levels of collaboration between the director and the department, and that will continue. >> yes, in the back? >> my name is kayla and i am with the ymca. i just wanted to thank you so much for your willingness to work with our nonprofit community during the community

funding process. and i'm just wondering, are there ways that in the nonprofit community we can help our applicants build either stronger applications or work smarter within the regulatory process? adrianne: absolutely. number one, i'm still learning things about hud. it is shocking, i know. >> that's what makes the job enjoyable. adrianne: that's what makes the job enjoyable. i know my colleague pam would agree with me, we have probably intersections in everything that any community needs. and so we talk about homelessness. i'm sure that many folks may not know that hud, we also do mortgage insurance, whether there are nursing home facilities or hospitals in

communities that need it most. this is a long way of saying that number one, i think the number one thing for any emerging nonprofit out there is to pay attention to all the different things that hud does in all the various ways that we do it. i talk about urban development. we have a whole body of work. i'm not going to use acronyms. we have a program that helps girl nonprofits figure out how to build in their communities, how to deal with the homeless issues in their communities. we also have a dedicated technical assistance program for folks who just want to get to know hud a little bit better. we do a lot of work with making sure small businesses that want to work with hud understand how to get access to hud's contracts. part of it, and this sounds kind

of corny, going to our website is a one-stop shop. it will not just teach about the work that we carry out, but have a nonprofits can be engaged. >> you also have regional offices. adrianne: over 8000 employees strong. most of those folks are across the country, and so we also have that resource. >> i've got to ask you a question from the virtual audience because it is a topic on the minds of a love people these days. another innovation that hasn't come up yet is artificial intelligence. how has hud been thinking about the role of ai? adrianne: i think it is fair to say that the white house has taken a leadership role making sure that there is harmony across the departments in this work. we all have expectations of

having ai that we look at in a very serious way. as an opportunity to really create efficiencies in our work. we have been talking to our leaders about those kind of cases that really expand on our work, but also in a way that is consistent with the value we place on our employees as well, making sure it is employee- centered in making their work more efficient. so there is more to come. there a lot to say, more to come. >> stay tuned. while we are hitting our time limit, let me just ask one final question to close this out. reflecting on your career so far, did you have any words of wisdom for young people who might be considering a career in public service? adrianne: so number one, go

where your journey takes you. i always say be prepared. ask a question earlier did i think i would be here? no, there is nothing about 18-year-old adrianne saying you know what my path is, public housing. that did not come up in my conversations with myself. but here's the thing. i feel like younger folks these days may have a question of confidence and i think that if there is any words of wisdom i can impart, be confident on the things that you are good at. particularly women, particularly people of color. they sometimes feel they don't have agency and voice. i would also say that folks

should think about what brings them joy. particularly if you are younger, if your work isn't bringing you joy, if you are very lucky, there is a match, but as you befall and become older, find something that brings you joy because it feels less and less like work if it feels like living. surround yourself with people who have faith in you as well. have confidence, have faith, find joy. the rest will happen. >> these are wonderful words of advice. i feel like i should be writing them down. thank you so much. again, i want to thank you very, very much for honoring us with your presence today and allowing us to host you here and for sharing your insights and information. it has been a great conversation

and they want to thank everyone here for joining us and to our virtual and c-span audiences, thank you as well. that is it for the day. enjoy the rest of the afternoon. [applause]

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