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invite it. today we have an opportunity to deliver critical aid to our allies. and i believe it's appropriate to do so. so, mr. speaker, with that i yield back the balance of my the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. moore: mr. speaker, president trump secured our borders. then just over three years ago joe biden took the office of president and immediately did exactly what he promised on the campaign trail to do -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend of the the house is not in order. please take your conversations off the floor.
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the house will be in order. the gentleman is recognized. mr. moore: joe biden took to the office of president immediately did exactly what he promised on the campaign trail. he moved president trump's policies. president biden rescinded the remain in mexico policy, prevented the removal of illegal immigration, and blocked immigration and customs enforcement and border protection from enforcing immigration laws. in the weeks and months that followed, president biden terminated the trump era policies and convenienting fraudulent asylum claims, ending catch and release, and preventing illegal we are in the
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biden administration resolve. the biggest illegal immigration in the united states. 7.6 million illegal aliens have been encountered. 38 straight months of 100,000 southwest border c.b.p. encounters. the biden administration 4.7 million illegals have been released in addition to 1.8 known got-aways. 357 illegal aliens on the terrorist watch list have been encountered along the southwest border. no doubt, more have evaded detection. and all of this is just on the southwest border. our northern border is seeing record high numbers of illegal aliens encountered. house republicans acted to secure our border. we passed h.r. 2 to secure the
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border act to end the abuse of the immigration system whether by the administration's cartels or illegal aliens themselves. had senate democrat leadership not refused to debate h.r. 2 on the senate floor, perhaps we wouldn't have a mass lawlessness on our poredder. we keep reading reports that president biden is looking to use his executive authority. each time the advocates tell joe biden not to use his authority and each time he bends to their wishes. americans are outraged our federal government turns a blind eye to the chaos that have been created. they are tired of seeing illegals beating up police officers and streaming across the southwest border and hearing the death of innocent men and young women, a senate staffer
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cause bid illegal aliens. so today, house republicans are trying to make our democrat colleagues and president biden take this border crisis seriously. h.r. 3602 would restore successful trump-era policies and remove the rewards to incentivize people. it includes provisions in the homeland security jurisdiction to help secure our border and provisions to include border wall construction and increase border patrol agents and provide bonus pay and deploy additional technology to that border. division b includes providings in the judiciary and foreign affairs committees. title i reforms the asylum process to deter claims and assure that they are granted that they are being persecuted.
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title 2 -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend. please take your conversations off the floor. the gentleman is recognized. ms. moore: title 2 ends the biden administration catch and release policies by clarifying that the d.h.s. secretary must remove and detain illegals to remain in mexico type programs. there are no other options. aliens cannot be paroled or released unless an immigration judge that there is a benefit. title 3 directs the secretary of state to renegotiate successful trump policies and remain in mexico program with the diplomatic counterparts. title 4 ends the provisions that family units to avoid detention
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and keeps legitimate families together as they await ajudication. title 5 requires unaccompanied alien children be returned to their home country as we do for mexico and canada. rather than traffic unexploited in our country, it helps a role. title 6 applies the same penalties for visa overstays as we do for illegal border crossings. it is a misdemeanor to cross the border illegally. a felony to cross it repeatedly and a civil infraction to overstay your advise visa. title 7 ends abuse of authority circumvents. parole is a case by case review based on individual circumstances and the rigors of the law are inappropriate. parole by category isn't parole
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but a new law by fiat. such changes must be passed by congress in a thaition that respects the rule of law. title 8 creates two grant programs, the first provides funding for states to construct or improve border barriers second activities related to the border. h.r. 3602 will end the border chaos and ensure respect for u.s. immigration laws. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. nadler: i grant myself such time as i may consume. mr. speaker, i rise today in opposition to this foolhardy attempt to pass for the second time one of the most dray cone kwan immigration bills. this rehashing of h.r. 2 is a joke. they say that the definition of
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insanity is trying something over and over but expecting different results. here we are debating a bill once again that continues to have no chance of being enacted into law. we know that because h.r. 2 has been brought up and failed twice in the gnat most recently garnering a mere 32 votes. this is nothing more than pure political theater. i don't know what it is that the speaker wants us to suspend the rules of the house or our disbelief? my republican colleagues continue to show us that they are not interested in finding real solutions to tough issues. let's be very clear about what this legislation would do. this bill serves as a whole sale ban on asylum and end of parole. no one would be able to seek asylum in the united states if they cross between ports of entry or if they could have had
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temporary status in a third country. last time we considered this bill democrats offered a variety of amendments to exempt the most vulnerable from some of these requirements. this included those from communist regimes and unaccompanied children. the majority was not willing to exempt children under a-year-old. when it comes to parole, republicans are not willing to support codifying the vital you ukraine program which is aided over 100,000 ukrainians fleeing putin's unlawful invasion of ukraine. this is not serious legislation. given their slim margins, it is unclear that republicans could pass h.r. 2 today. they had to make tweaks to the bill to convince any republican hold outs that their bill is a good idea. for example, this version removes h.r. 2's nationwide
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e-verify mandate which passed into law, this would have decimated our economy, especially our agriculture sector. some republicans voted no because of this provision. but removing this title is doing little for the bill's prospects. other republicans including immigration subcommittee support this provision and have expressed concern over its removal. this whole exercise is a huge waste of our time. not only does this bill not have the votes in the senate, it probably does not even have the votes to pass the house today and what ands to be an effort to gain the support of mr. roy, early opponent of the speaker's approach to the foreign aid package, the e-verify was replaced for enforcing immigration law. this is intended to reimburse
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the state of texas that governor abbott has spent even though numerous components of this operation have been ruled unlawful by the courts. if the hope that this provision would earn the support of mr. roy, who seems to have failed since we are only considering this bill under suspension because he and others wouldn't be in support of moving this bill out of the rules committee. so not only is this not serious legislation, this is not a serious process. and let's remember how we got here. after passing h.r. 2 in may of last year, republicans spent the next seven months saying h.r. 2 was the only way to secure the border even though they know it cannot become law after being rejected by the senate. then they insisted that the price of helping protecting ukraine against rush and adpetion was enacting harsh border legislation.
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senate republicans convinced some democrats to a border bill, a bill that leader mcconnell called the toughest border bill in 30 years. but republicans couldn't take yes for an answer. donald trump said he didn't want to help with the border in an election year because he wants immigration as a campaign issue. other republicans said it out loud, too, they don't want to do too damn much to help the democrats, closed quote. folding to the cult of donald trump and hours after the 370-paged text of this bill was released, speaker johnson declared the bill dead on arrival in the house with the rest of the republican conference quickly following in line. republicans showed clearly what democrats have been saying over and over again, that they don't want to do anything to help address our broken immigration system. they want to talk tough without
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doing the hard work of actually legislating. this version of h.r. 2 is being sent to the floor to give republicans cover to vote for necessary aid for allies, israel, ukraine and tie what wan if this vote is what they need to pass vital aid to ukraine, israel and taiwan, then fine, but let's not pretend. this is a waste of our time. i reserve the balance of my time. the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from alabama is recognized. ms. moore: i yield five minutes not joosm arizona. -- from arizona. mr. ciscomani: i'm glad to see this legislation is being taken up along with other packages as well. the gentleman from new york calls this a joke. i don't know what he finds
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funny, but nothing about this situation is funny. it's not funny to our border patrol agents, not funny to my border communities and certainly not funny to the hundreds of thousands of women and children being trafficked by the mexican cartels in our southern border. there is nothing funny about this situation. let's be clear. our border is prone and has been for a long time. and at a time when our world is most dangerous than ever and adversaries are emboldened, protecting our homeland is our most critical priority. the taxpayers have spurred the urgent need to support our allies. we must do both. it all starts with the secure border, mr. speaker. this bill takes major strides in
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addressing our pourous border and immediately start reconstruction of the border wall, end the disastrous catch and release policies and streamline the asylum process. remain and mexico and cooperative agreements in the northern triangle. this would go back to those policies and stem the flow we are seeing. the united states congress is the most powerful body in the world. we must be able to support our allies while we protect our homeland as well. the world is looking for strength in our country and the administration is nowhere to be found. has been nowhere to be found. we must step up to fill the gaps the white house has left by weakened foreign and domestic policies and stances. since january of 2021, there have been more than 7.6 million migrant encounters on our southwest border and in
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addition, estimates suggest 1.8 additional illegal immigrants that evaded border patrol and enter our country. 169 individuals on the terrorist watch lists were apprehended in f.y.2023. these are no longer families coming to america in search of a better life. in 2024, 25,000 chinese nationals and have surpassed all of last fiscal year. i went to israel and walked through the devastation of october 7. make no mistake, hamas wishes the same fate on americans. this bill does not just address a major national security weakness, it solves the crisis that millions of americans already live with. in my district we have seen 1,000 migrants per day. arizona has seen a spike in high-speed car chases.
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in f.y.2023, fentanyl overdoses in the u.s. rose about 112,000. fentanyl overdose deaths are the highest deaths in pima county. and we must send a signal that the u.s. southern border is not open. . . . . each of these packages take a firm stance to stand with our allies in israel, taiwan, and ukraine. in turn, my bill takes a firm stance in american strength in our homeland. mr. speaker, this is personal to me. not only is it the number one issue in my district, and it's the number one issue for republicans and democrats in my district as well. i'm first generation american.
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i immigrated here with my family when i was a young boy. today the open border policies of the biden administration are not the way of the american dream. it dilutes and diminishes the efforts and sacrifice of so many immigrants that came before us to open up the way. invest in this country and became americans. it is fueling human trafficking, enabling the cartels, and flooding our country with fentanyl and other deadly drugs. america is the land of opportunity. i believe that. i'm a proud product of the person dream. living it every sing daily, mr. speaker. the crisis at our southern border is not the american dream. it's a nightmare. we must take steps to secure our southern border immediately. this legislation is a start. i urge my colleagues to vote yes. with that i yield. mr. moore: i reserve, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. nadler: i now yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from mississippi, representative thompson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. thompson: thank you very
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much, mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman from new york for giving me the time. mr. speaker, i rise in strong opposition to this sideshow. consideration of h.r. 3602 today is a cynical move meant to appease republicans who refuse to provide aid to fight autocrats and terrorists unless they get to deport migrant kids first. these extreme maga republicans care more about scoring political points than finding solutions and refuse to consider the bipartisan senate border security and immigration enforcement deal. they are having a hissy fit after the senate threw out their unconstitutional articles of impeachment against secretary of homeland security, alejandro mayorkas. they care only about electing donald trump. they are happy to rip up the constitution, create chaos at the border, and prop up vladimir
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putin to do it. this is why they are insisting on rehashing this terrible deal, which has zero chance of passing the house let alone the senate. h.r. 3602 shifts all border processing to ports of entry without providing any additional resources. the bill doesn't fund a single new officer at ports of entry where more than 90% of fentanyl is interdicted. our ports of entry are already short over 4,000 officers. when the homeland security committee considered a version of this bill last year, democrats tried to add an additional 1700 offices, but republicans refused. furthermore, this zone phobic deal would strip d.h.s. funding from any community or religious organization that helped migrants. it is so overly broad that
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organizations that place water in remote areas of the desert or provide a pregnant mother a safe place to sleep would be ineligible for d.h.s. funding. this bill is so overreaching it would force the american red cross -- may i have an addi additional -- mr. nadler: i yield an additional minute. mr. thompson: i thank the gentleman. this bill is so overreaching that it would force the american red cross to verify every person's immigration status before -- immigration status before providing lifesaving services following a natural disaster. this is just inhumane. furthermore, h.r. 3602 is so poorly drafted that it would bar many u.s. citizens from boarding commercial flights. this bill sets requirements for forms of identification that can only be used through airport security. but the list doesn't include
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driver's license from washington, d.c., puerto rico, guam, or other u.s. territories. so, mr. speaker, this bill is too extreme. it's just brought here today to appease certain elements of the party. republicans must put an end to this chaos and dysfunction. and get back to serious legislating. vote no on this unworkable bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from alabama is recognized. mr. moore: i yield two minutes to my good friend and chairman, representative jordan. mr. jordan: i thank the gentleman for yielding. mr. speaker, a joke is what -- called this bill a joke. it's not a joke to put back in place the policies that work. i would call that common sense. railroad what happened on day one of the biden administration they said we are going to get rid of the remain in mexico policy, stop building the wall,
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when you get here you'll be released. who the heck wouldn't come if that's the policy? that's what's happened. on pace to get to 12 million migrants entering the country in the biden administration. so this bill fixes those things. it says we are going to build the wall, provide money to do so, we are going to go put back in place the remain in mexico policy which worked, we are going to end this catch and release. guess what else it does. guess what else it does? changes the way they are doing parole. the very program this administration put in that allowed the individual to be released into the country who killed laken riley. that's not a joke. that is good policy. policy that will help protect americans. policies that make common sense. i appreciate the gentleman from arizona for sponsoring this legislation. mr. moore for managing it on the floor. and the judiciary committee who's worked on this, republicans, who worked on this issue for a long time.
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this isn't quite h.r. 2 but it's close. it's the policies that need to happen. again, understand the magnitude of the problem. on pace to get to 12 million migrants coming in this country in a four-year time span. that's what the biden administration has given us. much knows that's wrong. everyone knows the policies they have done intentionally, deliberately, willfully on day one have been harmful to the country. democrats know it. republicans know it. independents know it. polling shows it across the country. let's take a step in the direction of fixing it and pass this legislation. i yield back. the speaker the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. nadler: i now yield two minutes to the distinguished gentlelady from washington, the ranking member of the immigration subcommittee, representative jayapal. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. jayapal: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in strong opposition to this cruel, unworkable, and
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inhumane modified version of the republican border bill, h.r. 2. what is the point of this exercise? the majority could barely pass this legislation last year over bipartisan opposition, and now it's going to magically pass it in the house with a 2/3 majority? give me a break. that's not what's happening here. they say that when someone shows you who they are you should believe them the first time. the majority has shown us who they are on this issue over an over and over again. they consistently reject bipartisan solutions, including a bill that was drafted in the senate by the second most conservative republican senator, and yet the majority and republicans in the house and senate decided to kill that bill. you know why? because donald trump said kill the bill because we want to keep immigration out there as an issue that doesn't get solved. doesn't have solutions. but has some empty talking point
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messaging bills that continue to demonize immigrants and create xenophobia in a country that has depended on immigrants to build this country and continues to. republicans have said it out loud over and over again. don't want solutions, don't want to solve problems, just want to preserve the issue for the election. this bill is going nowhere. let's be clear about that. the situation at the border is directly linked to the fact that the legal immigration system has been left in chaos because it has not been modernized in 30 years to meet the needs of this country. who has stopped that modernization? republicans. over and over again. when the legal process is so backed up that it takes decades for legal residents to get their children into the country. when employers simply can't get the workers that they need to hire approved because there is a backlog of two million people who haven't been processed, or
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when we have so few immigration judges that asylum seeks wait for over eight years to get their cases heard? mr. nadler: i yield another 30 seconds. ms. jayapal: when people wait, asylum seekers wait over eight years to get their cases heard, yeah, people turn to unscrupulous actors, including cartels, who promise them they can get in by opening the bo border. the only people talking about the open border and encouraging people to come across the border are republicans who continue to put that message out there. are we looking for solutions, mr. speaker? no, we are here debate ago bill that has no chance of becoming law and is an empty messaging bill that does absolutely nothing to reform our outdated immigration system. let's get back to governing. i yield back. mr. nadler: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from alabama is recognized. mr. moore: i yield three minutes to my friend from another border state, texas, mr. roy. the speaker pro tempore: mr. roy is recognized. mr. roy: i thank my friend from
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al. alabama al. the gentlelady is right. we are here for two reasons. yeah, this bill will not become law. no question about it. it will not become law for two reasons. the first reason is that our democratic colleagues refuse to address the crisis at the border. in fact want to perpetuate it, encourage it, and cause more of it. the second reason is it's not going to become law is because republicans continue to campaign on securing the border and then refuse to use any leverage to actually secure the border. that's the reason. those two reasons right there. that's why this will not become law. let's be very clear what we are dealing with right now. we know the numbers. we can talk about the numbers of the the seven million that have a been released into the country. two million got aways. we have had 1,000 pounds of fentanyl pouring across our border for the last six months. 24,000 chinese nationals, 85% of whom are adult, single individuals that have come across this border since october 1 which is more than the
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entirety of fiscal year 2023. and certainly more than the 381 in the last year that the policies of president trump were in place. the reality is we are being put in danger. the american people are getting killed. laken riley is dead because of the policies of the biden administration. specifically the parole policies that release people into our country to kill americans. that is what has been happening. yet we are going to do nothing about t we have legislation right now that would fix the problem in significant part. h.r. 2. we passed it a year ago. it is a great bill. i support the bill. i support what's in it. it changes the policies. frankly, policies that president obama and jeh johnson asked us to change. it change the policies of abuse, parole and asylum by this administration. we should get it signed into law. the only way to force democrats to do it is to use leverage. and we are not going to. despite the fact that the
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speaker of the house repeatedly has said in january, at the border, a trip i didn't take because i knew full well what would happen, it would be a show trip. that's exactly the truth. if president biden wants a supplemental spending bill focused on national security, it better begin with defending america's national security. we wanted to get the border closed and secured first. he said in a letter in december, supplemental ukraine funding is dependent upon enactment of transformative change to our nation's border security laws. here we are today with a sham vote. let me be very clear, the people saying that we stopped h.r. 2 in the rules committee and didn't allow it to get connected to or get it allow to be attached to the ukraine bill, they are lying. that is not true. it was a separate rule, a separate vote designed as cover. cover for republicans to try to vote for a ukraine funding bill without securing the border of the united states.
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yes, i do agree with that point. that's the truth. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield one minute to the distinguished the gentleman from my home state of new york, mr. suozzi. the speaker pro tempore: mr. suozzi is recognized mr. suozzi: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. roy, the histrionics and hyperbole are not working. you said so yourself. it's not working. we are about to pass -- it's not working. it's not working. the bottom line is -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend. house will be in order. mr. suozzi: the bottom line is -- the bottom line is that we face issues that are very serious in our country, including the border. there is a crisis there. and we -- and we have to address it by doing what we are doing today and tomorrow related to the foreign aid bill. we have to work together. we have to find compromise.
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we have to find bipartisan solutions. ever problem we face in our country is complicated and can't solve problems in fear and anger. i know mr. moore is a very good man and a lot of good people on the republican side. let's solve these issues. we had a bipartisan solution by one of the most ethical, hard-working conservative republicans james lankford and we didn't go forward because president trump and others said we don't want to give biden a victory and campaign on the chaos. mr. nadler: i yield the gentleman an additional minute. mr. suozzi: we want to campaign on the chaos or a victory to the democrats. it's not a victory for biden but for the united states of
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america. for us to move forward as a country we have to work together. i see the people up here in the gallery, people watch television and read the newspaper and they are sick of this. they don't want us fighting with each other and the hyperbole. they want us to sit down and negotiate a setment. h.r. 2 was tried before and didn't work. let's say trump gets elected and you win the house, the senate, and i don't want that to happen, you won't get enough votes in the senate. you still have to negotiate a bipartisan compromise. people have got to learn to get back to the basics of legislating and negotiating and working together to solve the problems that the people of america demand that we solve. i yield become. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the members are reminded to
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direct their remarks to the chair and the chair would remind members that do not reference persons in the gallery. the gentleman from alabama is recognized. ms. moore: i yield one minute to the gentleman from arizona. mr. biggs: i will say this about mr. nadler, he's right on some points. but he is on wrong some points as well and one of them is this. this bill gives money to the states to deal with the calamity that has been caused by the biden administration. so, years ago, when janet. mrs. napolitano: -- napolitano who was in the obama administration and same position that secretary mayorkas is in she said that they pay for the damages. she understood like katie hobbs says we have to have resources.
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please understand that you don't understand what is going on in the border. i will say one thing from new york, this is a showboat. h.r. 2 has been sitting in the senate. it should have passed and would have taken care of 90% of the problems on the border. i know. i writ most of those provisions along with my friend chip roy. and i will tell you this, if we do not pass this, don't come to us if you are living in new york and say we are in trouble, because you have perpetrated it. this is the time to pass this legislation. the process has been crappy, but this is the time to pass this legislation because it has to be done. yield. ms. moore: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i reserve.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from alabama is recognized. ms. moore: i yield one minute to mr. perry. mr. perry: due policity. this is a lie. it's a deseat, trickery, fraud. it is a swind ell, it is a scam, by design, mr. speaker. this is a pig in a poke. you don't get the pig, you just get the bag. we told everybody we are going to do border security and attach it to this bill and this is all going to go to the senate and the president is going to sign it, but that's not going to happen. this is a separate bill designed to fail, designed to fail. you are getting a box sent to you in the mail saying border security. if you are laken riley parents and you get a box, you open it up and there is nothing in it. we are supposed to believe we
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are doing something here, but we are tricking you. this is an abomination. i'm going to vote for the bill. but i want everybody to know it's a sham. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. nadler: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from alabama. ms. moore: yield one minute to the gentleman from louisiana, mr. scalise. mr. scalise: i rise in strong support of this bill. but, mr. speaker, for years now, this house republican majority and before we were a majority have been calling on president biden to secure america's border. we have been trying to engage president biden to fix the problem. we put together legislation in h.r. 2 and has been mentioned by many people. the strongest border security bill that has passed congress and been over in the senate since last year.
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and they continue to ignore it because they have wanted to ignore the problem. you saw it play out just days ago in the senate when we sent over articles of impeachment for secretary mayorkas who has failed miserably in protecting america's homeland. that is his job. he is the homeland security secretary. and you have seen him testifying that our border is secure. it would be laughable if it wasn't so insulting to millions of americans who know it's a lie. our border isn't secure. since joe biden took office and took actions to open up our border, we have seen millions come across, eight million, 10 million. the number we know is at least that high if not higher. people on the terrorist watch list have come over. we haven't caught all of them. thousands of chinese nationalist of military age coming into our
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country. do you think they are to be part of the american dream or undermine it? we know the answer. which is why we continue to press our colleagues on the other side of the aisle and the senate and joe biden and the white house to get serious about this issue, but they refuse to. we are not going to let this go. we are going to continue to bring this up. and we will continue this debate. if president biden wants to ignore it, he knows that president biden has the legal authority to secure the border because they watched him use that same executive action to open up the border. he ended remain in mexico, which we restore in this bill. he mandated catch and release on our border patrol agents who want to secure our bordered. we have embedded with them. we have embedded with our patrol agents and they will tell you
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what's wrong. and the things that are needed to fix and secure the border are in this bill but president biden doesn't want to fix it. he knows he can fix it with a pen today, he has chosen not too. the radical elements of his party want an open border. and they are clear about it. the president tries to act like he wants to secure the border but when it comes time to negotiate he is nowhere to be found. the voters o this country are going to have a say in november do you want a secure border. when president trump was president he took steps to be secure. that was asylum which is what we are talk binge. president trump went back to mexico and said either you are going to agree to this policy, it's a negotiation between two countries or there is going to
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be consequences and laid out those consequences. lo and be hold, mexico saw the light and made more sense to agree to that policy with president trump than to suffer the consequences and we got remain in mexico and started to solve the problem. he was building the wall. we funded this working with president trump funded construction of the wall and hundreds of miles of wall were being built. and on day one, president biden mandated the halt of that construction of that wall. the wall was working. and joe biden knows it and he ended it because he wanted the border open. step by step, action by action, joe biden opens the border and refuses to negotiate on fixing the problem. we are going to continue to force this issue to bring votes to the floor, to press the senate to take this up, but at the end of the day, if joe biden
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still wants to continue to block this, and wants to continue the border open, the voters are going to have the say in november and i don't think he is going to like the answer. he could do something about it right now and refuses to. so ultimately the people of this country will have a say if joe biden won't work with us. i urge adoption of this piece of legislation that is so important to our national security. and i yield back. ms. moore: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. mr. nadler: the hypocrisy is so thick in this chamber you could cut it with a knife. mr. scalise says h.r. 2 was sent to the senate. the senate didn't ignore the issue. the senate negotiated as was mentioned before, a very, very tough immigration bill, the toughest ever, negotiated by senator lankford whose
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reputation is the second most conservative in the senate. but it didn't pass. why? because former president trump said don't pass anything, don't pass h.r. 2, don't pass the senate bill. i want an issue. i don't want this issue solved. i don't want a solution. i want an issue for the campaign. that's what the president said. congressman nehls said why should we give a win to a democrat, unquote. so don't tell me that anyone is serious about h.r. 2. they're not. and h.r. 2 is so draconian, the senate wouldn't give it more than 32 votes. we know that. we know that h.r. 2 is a fiction in the senate. we know the senate negotiated a very strong bill. but that bill could not advance because the president said he didn't want it.
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and -- not this president, the former president trump said he didn't want. and doesn't want anything to pass on this subject. so don't tell me that the republicans want a strong immigration bill and democrats want open borders. nobody wants open borders. and there's something else, the republicans rightly decry the catch and release policy where someone claims asylum and then released into the country for years for when a trial date comes up to decide whether that asylum claim is valid or whether the person should be deported and that is intolerable. president biden proposed a solution, the solution is very simple. he proposed an appropriation, i forget the amount, but an appropriation that would be sufficient so that those trials that would be held in a matter of weeks, not years, so that if
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someone claimed asylum has the right to ajudication, the ajudication would take place in several weeks. and if the person's case was valid, asylum would be granted. if the person's claim was not grnted, he would be swiftly deported. so you wouldn't have what they call this invasion. it's not an invasion. this country is composed of people who came from immigration, 1900, 10,000 a day and they created the current united states, probably the ancestors for most of the people in this country. immigrants are not a occurs. they are a -- curse, they are a blessing. we need a legal system. and the legal system can occur if ajudications occur quickly and the republicans rejected
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that. they rejected that, they rejected the tough bill in the senate because as president trump said, i don't want a solution, i want an issue for the campaign. i yield back. -- i reserve. i'm sorry. i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from alabama is recognized. ms. moore: i yield one minute to the distinguished gentlelady from texas -- mr. nadler: i yield one. announcer: jade. ms. ms. jackson lee: i thought we'd come here today to have a reasonable opportunity to address this question. let me be very clear. i've been in this body long enough to say we've had a time where members have been here and
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we've had control of the border in the interpretation my republicans might say. we've had a flow of immigrants. we've had a processes and we've had challenges, and we've spoken to the issue of providing funding for these challenges. here's what the issue is. the issue is that we have a past president who sees in his jurisdiction and career to block the flow of immigrants who are building and continuing to work with us in working on this nation. they come from ukraine, they may come from israel. they may come from palestine or taiwan. mr. nadler: i yield the gentle lady an additional minute. ms. jackson lee: they need funding. and we won't give them funding. as a member of the homeland
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security committee, i can tell you that the issue is we're not bringing groups together who are fleeing persecution, which is what we're seeing from individuals coming to the country now, fleeing persecution, we want to reject them. we want to reject the funding. when i was on homeland security, we did not do that. we provided for the n.g.o.'s. it's shameful to think we can live in this country and reject the n.g.o.'s and nongovernmental entities who are helping those who are in need. that's how we did our work. and when we did our work, we would be able to solve the problems and those problems would be helping n.g.o.'s, those problems would be making sure that we gave dollars to the agencies like the catholic charities. can anyone believe we don't give money to the catholic charities anymore? so the call that we have today, mr. speaker, and to my good friend, the whip of the house,
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working with our whip. the speaker pro tempore: the gentle lady's time has expired. the gentleman from alabama. the gentle lady's time has expired. the gentleman from new york. ms. jackson lee: and that's to help this nation. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from alabama is recognized. mr. moore: i am prepared to close and reserve. mr. speaker pro tempore: could you repeat what you said? mr. moore: i'm prepared to close. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. nadler: if the house republicans were serious about the border they would work with democrats on bipartisan legislation that could become law as they did in the senate. but time an again the republicans have proven they want the issue more than they
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want solutions. so here we are again, taking up virtually the same draconian bill as before, knowing that if it actually passes the house, it will surely go nowhere in the senate. and in a congress that has broken records for its chaos, dysfunction, and lack of accomplishments, this debate is one more for the record books. i urge members to oppose this cruel and inhumane bill and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from alabama is recognizeed. mr. moore: we had mr. daniels a few months ago and he said he never has seen the border as secure in 2018 and never as broken as it is today. those across the aisle want to said the building on fire and fund the fire department. we have solutions on the southern border. we're not trying to make it a political issue. it's an issue of our time. the american people see it. i urge passage vacate and oust mike johnson as house speaker.

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