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immigration policies. every american should be paying attention to how their representative votes on that. we have been talking about this ad nauseam in this room and everywhere, every press conference, and media appearance that we have had for the last many months. for the last three years for that matter. since joe biden went into the oval office on day one, they began to open that border wide. the people in this room know very well. we documented 64 specific executive actions and agency actions that he and secretary mayorkas and others took intentionally, deliberately, to open the border wide and send a welcome message to everybody around the globe. including violent criminals and terrorists in foreign nationals here -- coming here to do us harm. and the numbers, the official number's about nine million people have been encountered at that southern border in the last three years and few months. but we all know and i think intuitively we understand the number is much higher than that because we don't have any idea how many people actually have come across totally undetected.
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the got aways' number close to three million. i think i say this often, i think the number -- >> we take you back live to the floor of the house where today lawmakers will consider the rules for several measures. including immigration related bills and the re-authorization of section 702 of the foreign intelligence surveillance act. which allows for the surveillance of foreign individuals outside the united states without a warrant. you are watching live coverage on c-span. kibben: would you pry
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with me. kibben: would you pry god of mercy and compassion, of grace and justice. touch the heart of each offender, that all would be purified of their thirst for vengeance. speak into the souls of all aggressors that they would renounce their prejudice. abide with the countless victims of violent attacks, with the innocence held hostage in the crossfire of escalating hostilities. receive the refugees into the safety of your welcoming embrace. make way in the desert that the hungry would receive food.
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let all christians, muslims and jews put away anger, wrath, malice and slander. may each find a renewed spirit of forgiveness and understanding in the knowledge that all bear the image of you, our creator. for the sake of your kingdom, may each of us, politician and patriot, voter or victim, be eighths of -- agents of your purpose, that your peace and justice would once again rule this land. in the redemption of your name we pray. amen. the speaker pro tempore: the chair has examined the journal of the last day's proceedings and announces to the house her approval thereof. pursuant to clause 1 of rule 1 the journal stands approved.
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the pledge of allegiance will be led by the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. mcgovern. mr. mcgovern: please join with me. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will entertain up to 15 requests for one-minute speeches on each side of the aisle. for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? mr. thompson: mr. speaker, request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. thompson: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise today to recognize two robotics teams from north clarion high school located in clarion county.
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the western pennsylvania robotics championships took place in march at the pentagon west clarion university. during this competition, two teams, inevitable inventors and ambiguous case, finished in first and second place respectably. the first place winners earned the award given to the most consistent high performing and competitive robot. the ambiguous case, finishing in second place, received the excellence award which is given to overall excellence in robotic performance. both of these teams will be advancing to the world championships which will be held at the end of april in dallas, texas. mr. speaker, i enjoy seeing our youth engaging in these competitions to develop important computer skills, science skills that will help them in their future endeavors. best of luck as both teams advance to the world's.
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thank you, mr. speaker, and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from ohio seek recognition? >> thank you, mr. speaker. i request unanimous consent to address the house and to extend and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentlewoman is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. today i rise to recognize raya, ohio's 13th congressional district champion of the week. raya is an extraordinary student from the western reserve academy in hudson who has taken it upon herself to break down barriers and pave the way for the next generation of female coders. mrs. sykes: she recently founded python pals which strives to teach young girls and women about the computer coding program, python. this group not only teaches invaluable coding skills but will also instill confidence and courage in her peers to pursue a career in coding. as a member of the house science, space and technology committee, we often talk about the missing million, the one million stem workers from diverse gender, racial and geographic backgrounds that we need to fill our nation's open jobs in the stem fields. programs like raya's are critical to filling the missing million by creating safe,
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supportive spaces for girls to learn how to code until they have the skills they need to pursue careers in stem and showing how ohio's 13th congressional district is leading the way. raya's initiative shows strength and courage by challenging stereotypes and opening doors for girls who may have once felt excluded from a consent to addre house for one minute, revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. wilson: thank you, mr. speaker. in a dangerous event yesterday in michigan, anti-israel activists shouted death to america and death to israel, repeating the iranian regime chants. this event was in recognition of those who advocate for the mass murder of the people of rae. it reinforces that six months ago that hamas invaded israel, murdering over 1,200 israeli civilians. incredibly in america, a rally speaker hatefully spouted, quote, so when these fools ask if israel has a right to exist, the chant death to israel has become the most logical chant, end of quote.
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when attacks come to america to disrupt elections, voting on election day must be in person, while including military ballots that are mailed in. in conclusion, god bless our troops who have successfully protected america for 20 years as the global war on terrorism moves from the afghanistan safe haven to america. we do not need new laws for the border, we need to enforce the existing laws. biden shamefully has opened the borders for dictators as more 9/11 attacks across america are imminent as warned by the f.b.i. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from massachusetts seek recognition? mr. mcgovern: i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i rise today to congratulate the north high school boys basketball team for their remarkable accomplishment of winning back-to-back massachusetts division i state championships. i want to recognize principal
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sam, coach pepway and all the players on the historic run. last year they were the first public school team from my home city of worcester to win a d-1 state championship. north high forward carl graduated that year and went on to salem state university to continue his academic and athletic career. tragically, carl lost his life to senseless gun violence last fall. it was heartbreaking for the north high community and the entire city of worcester. the team dedicated this season to carl and emerged more determined than ever. on march 17, the polar bears went to the state championship and won their 45th straight game to cap off a perfect 24-0 season. mr. speaker, the talent, work ethic and resilience of this team has made all of worcester proud. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from texas rise? >> mr. speaker, i request or i ask unanimous concept to address
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the house -- consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentlewoman from texas is recognized for one minute. >> as the i.r.s.' tax filing deadline quickly approaches, safeguarding rights of taxpayers across our nation is top of mind for me and for all americans. ms. de la cruz: i rise today to advocate for h.r. 6332, the strengthen taxpayer rights act of 2023. at the heart of this bill it is simple. yet a powerful principle. taxpayers have a right to a fair and impartial appeals process. h.r. 6332 restores accountability and fairness to the appeals process by ensuring that taxpayers have a say in who does and who does not get to participate in their own appeals conference before the i.r.s.'
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independent office of appeals -- i.r.s.'s independent office of appeals. we should send a clear message, the rights of taxpayers are nonnegotiable. i urge my colleagues to stand with me and recommit to fairness, justice and the fund men rights of every taxpayer. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee rise? hawaii rise, i'm sorry. i'm jumping the gun there. ms. tokuda: i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentlewoman is recognized for one minute. ms. tokuda: thank you, mr. speaker. after the fires last august struck the island of maui, one of the first people to approach me in this chamber was my colleague and now friend, congressman doug lamalfa. few districts have experienced the tragedy of wildfires like california's first, and prior to the maui fires, the campfire
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held the record as the deadliest american wildfire of the last century. this past recess i participated in a bipartisan exchange with congressman lamalfa. i went to the town of paradise, i learned of the challenges and opportunities in recovery. i saw schools and homes that had burnt, rebuilt. and i left feeling hopeful. congressman lamalfa also joined me in la heina, attending the dedication of the new temporary schools, even breaking in the new basketball court, playing ball with our governor. i must add neither of them will be quitting their day jobs. he walked with us through la haina, met with our community and answered their many, many questions. there's a definite comfort knowing that while the road ahead for our communities is long, we aren't on it alone. i'm honored to have a trusted partner and friend in congressman lamalfa and i look forward to the work we will do together. thank you, mr. speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee rise? >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise and ask unanimous consent to address the house for one
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minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to pay tribute to andy giancarlo who is retiring from government service, having served our country for 25 years. mr. fleischmann: when angie told me about her retierpt, i told her i would support her, especially if she chose to reconsider. alas, she's retiring, so i would like to take this opportunity to honor her 13 years spent on the house appropriations committee. it's hard to put our appreciation into words. but as appropriators, we are at our best when we express it in numbers. as professional staff and clerk, angie helped usher 12 energy and water bills through successful passage of the house and 14 bills through final enactment. conservatively, that means she also had to directly consider over 600 amendments to get
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there. i will spare everyone on the accounting, on all these talking points that it entail, but rest assured, angie had correct comma placement in every single one of them. the countless hours angie dedicated to the committee made this place a better place and we greatly appreciate it. i feel very lucky too that we've been able to work on this bill with angie as clerk and i'm proud of her accomplishments. i speak for myself, the committee and the united states congress when i express my utmost appreciation for her dedicated service over the years. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? >> i ask for unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to honor and celebrate the birthday of a fearless trail blazer and a symbol of hope, dolores fought
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tokera. she's -- fuerta. she's still fighting for social justice and justice for all workers. mr. gomez: yes, at 94. just last week, we were together reaffirming our commitment to workers' rights during a cesar chavez celebration. as the founder of the united farm worker, she mobilized communities to fight for the rights of workers everywhere. dolores understood that to create a movement, you need to empower the next generation of leaders so your work extends far beyond your lifetime. and with every organizer she trained, she helped create a ripple of change that organized and transformed communities decades after she uttered those famous words, si se puede, a movement that still continues to this day. happy birthday, dolores, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from florida rise? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. ....
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the speaker pro tempore: t he gentlewoman is recognized for one minute. >> today i speak about a matter that strikes at the core of our values and demands our unwavering attention and action, crimes against children. today there will be those that argue the death penalty is unconstitutional but when it comes to protecting our children from rape, it is morally imperative. our constitution stands as a beacon of freedom and justice, crafted to safeguard the rights and liberties of every american. but what greater violation of those rights can there be than the unforgivable abuse of our most vulnerable, our children. ms. luna: the federal minimum of child rape must be upgraded to death penalty and a minimum of life behind bars and it's not only a matter of punishment but deterrence and justice. we must send a message to those that prey on our children and such heinous crimes will not be tolerated and those who commit them will be faced with death. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: f
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or what reason does the gentleman from idaho rise? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent for one minute to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: w ithout objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. october's was the deadliest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. hamas killed people including women, children, the elderly and took over 240 hostages. mr. fulcher: israel is one of our greatest allies and the information we receive from them helps us combat terrorism every day. president biden's demand they surrender other cease to pursue hamas in response is a slap in the face to victims. it's hard to see them circulating videos murdering innocent children over an ally that helped protect our homeland for decades. hamas is working towards the genocidal eradication of the only successful is democracy in the middle east and now more than ever we must stand with israel
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and fight anti-semitism and support h.res. 1117 to oppose the one-sided approach to israel and urge my colleagues to do the same. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: f or what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, by direction on the committee on rules i call up house resolution 1125 and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: t he clerk will report the resolution. the clerk: house calendar number 69, house resolution 1125. resolved, that at any time after adoption of this resolution the speaker may, pursuant to clause 2-b of rule 8, declare the house resolved into the committee of the whole house on the state of the union for consideration of the bill, h.r. 7888, to reform the foreign intelligence surveillance act of 1978. the first reading of the bill shall be dispensed with. all points of order against consideration of the bill are waived. general debate shall be confined to the bill and shall not exceed two
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hours equally divided among and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on the judiciary or their respective designees and the chair and ranking minority member of the permanent select committee on intelligence or their respective designees. after general debate the bill shall be considered for amendment under the five-minute rule. the bill shall be considered as read. all points of order against provisions in the bill are waived. no amendment to the bill shall be in order except those printed in the report of the committee on rules accompanying this resolution. each such amendment may be offered only in the order printed in the report, may be offered only by a member designated in the report, shall be
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considered as read, shall be debatable for the time specified in the report equally divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent, shall not be subject to amendment, and shall not be subject to a demand for division of the question in the house or in the committee of the whole. all points of order against such amendments are waived. at the conclusion of consideration of the bill for amendment the committee shall rise and report the bill to the house with such amendments as may have been adopted. the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill and amendments thereto to final passage without intervening motion except one motion to recommit. section 2. upon adoption of this resolution it shall be in order to consider in the house the bill, h.r. 529, to extend the customs waters of the
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without intervening motion except, one, one hour of debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on ways and means or their respective designees, and, two, one motion to recommit. section 3. upon adoption of this resolution it shall be in order without intervention of any point of order to consider in the house the resolution, h. res. 1112, denouncing the biden administration's immigration policies. the resolution shall be considered as read. the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the resolution and preamble to adoption without intervening motion or demand for division of the question except one hour of debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on the judiciary or their respective designees. section 4.
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upon adoption of this resolution it shall be in order without intervention of any point of order to consider in the house the resolution, h. res. 1117, opposing efforts to place one-sided pressure on israel with respect to gaza. the resolution shall be considered as read. the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the resolution and preamble to adoption without intervening motion or demand for division of the question except one hour of debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on foreign affairs or their respective designees. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman from texas is recognized for one hour. mr. roy: mr. speaker, for purposes of debate only i yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentlewoman from new mexico, pending which i allow myself such time as i may consume. during consideration is for all time yielded for debate only and i ask
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unanimous consent all members have five legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks. the speaker pro tempore: w ithout objection. mr. roy: mr. speaker, today the rules committee reported out a rule for four pieces of legislation. h.r. 7888, reforming intelligence and securing america act. this legislation authorizes title 7, re-authorizes title 7, section 702 of the foreign intelligence surveillance act for five years from the date of enactment. this bill is far from perfect. but we're going to have a lot of debate on that bill in just a moment in the rule and then two hours later. i'm going to come back to that in a moment. there are three other pieces of legislation. first, h.r. 529, extending limits of u.s. customs waters act. this bipartisan legislation enhances customs and border protections air and marine operations mission by extending cuss onlies law enforcement authority from 12 to 24 nautical miles of the united states coast and will help c.b.p. combat illegal activity in coastal waters at a time we have significant problems with respect to our borders. h.res. 1112, denouncing the biden administration's immigration policies. this resolution
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denounces president biden's open border policies, calls on the administration to immediately put in place policies that will end the crisis at our southern border. this is an important message, an important statement, but i hope this congress will speak with one voice against and ad administration that refuses to enforce the law. this resolution is one statement along those lines. h.res. 1117, opposing efforts to place one-sided pressure on israel with respect to gaza. this resolution affirms that israel, our greatest ally in the middle east, has the right to defend itself against hamas. and makes clear that the house of representatives opposes efforts to place one-sided pressures on israel to implement an immediate cease-fire. this resolution is necessary. because this administration regrettably, embarrassingly, this administration took a seat, sat down, abstained, abstained in
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the face of the horrors we saw unfold on october 7 to our friend israel. by sitting down with the united nations security council, called for a cease-fire and pushing on israel to walk away from its efforts to combat what hamas has been doing to the people of israel. we should speak with clarity as the congress of the united states that we stand in solidarity with the people of israel, and this resolution is one way in which we can do that. i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlewoman from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: mr. speaker, i thank the gentleman from texas, mr. roy, for the customary 30 minutes, and i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks and yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: w ithout objection. ms. leger fernandez: we just returned from two marvelous weeks in our beautiful districts. i was invited to visit a food bank to highlight
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food insecurity and the need to provide families with nutritious and available meals. i talked with tribal leaders and law enforcement about how we must work together to solve the many issues facing native american communities from the missing and murdered indigenous women crisis to the need for greater economic development, to the need for protection of sacred sites from desecration. we gathered health care providers from across new mexico for a congressional hispanic caucus to talk about latino access to rural health care. that event was standing room only because our constituents want us to address health care access and continue the democrats' work to bring down the cost of prescription drugs and health care costs. the work we began last year with the inflation reduction act. these are really important things. our constituents want us to work on really important things that make a difference in their lives every day. so what are we doing
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today? three of these bills don't really address anything. we have more resolutions that just express things but don't have any solutions. we're spending another valuable week on nonbinding resolutions and bills that republicans have already failed to pass. this is the third time we'll vote on a resolution complaining about a broken immigration system that's been broken for years and it's congress' fault that we have not fixed it. republicans want to just talk about blame, but do they offer any solutions? that's not how governing works. it's not about coming down here and passing press releases on the floor of the house. if you want to engage in a problem and offer solutions, you engage in bipartisan negotiations to pass a law that fixes the problem. instead, republicans do the opposite. they block bipartisan immigration deals and complain that nothing's happening.
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well, something is happening. republicans are making the problem worse. six months ago, the president sent conga supplemental border security request. that request would have bolstered border security and slowed the flow of refugees by addressing the root cause of migration. for six months, republicans who control this house have refused to take up the president's border funding request. in the senate, a bipartisan, bipartisan, led by republican senator and democrats worked for four months. they worked hard on a bipartisan border security deal. before we could even discuss the merits of it in this house to say what we liked or didn't like. trump told them to kill the bill. following trump's orders, as always, house republican leadership declared it dead on arrival in the house. why? they want to preserve
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immigration as a political weapon, not something that americans are asking us to fix. americans would like to see comprehensive immigration reform. how about if we do something like taking up the bipartisan dream and promise act or the bipartisan farm work modernization act which passed with bipartisan support out of this congress because we need more workers to help pick the food we need to place on our tables. what's especially shameful is that instead of offering solutions, republicans are creating a dangerous environment in america. rhetoric from the twice impeached and four times indicted former president trump that suggest immigrants are poisoning the blood of america is dangerous and disgraceful. trump's language echoes
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almost verbatim the propaganda and hate used by hitler and other nazi leaders. america's not nazi germany. we'll push back against such a scary road to tyranny and bigotry. trump forgets but america remembers that immigrants are vitally important to the economic vibrancy and future of our nation. while securing the border is an important policy objective, there's no reason to demonize our parents, our grandparents, our co-workers, our friends and neighbors in the process. this rule also makes in order h.res. 1117, yet another nonbinding resolution, a press release. .. it's been weeks since kitchen volunteers were killed in gaza. killed while trying to bring
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food to starving gazaans who are -- gazans who are on the brink of famine. more than 200 aide workers have been killed in -- aid workers have been killed in gaza over the last six months. over 13,000 children and 9,000 women have died in the war. 27 kids so far have died of malnutrition. do you know how horrible it is to die of starvation? 27 children. famine is imminent for 1.1 million gazzans -- gazans. there are still over 130 israeli hostages who without a ceasefire cannot go home to their grieving families, their worried families. tens of thousands of israelis are marching in the streets to bring their fellow, their hostages home. this resolution that we're hearing today fails to acknowledge the sad reality i've just discussed.
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it also fails to support president biden's efforts to bring lasting peace to this region which should be our goal. president biden is right. a ceasefire is needed to bring over 130 israeli hostages home and to prevent the death of innocent gaza jns. too many people -- gazans. too many people have died already. president biden's calls should be welcomed by everyone with a caring heart. if you care for the hostages and their worried families, a ceasefire is needed. if you care for the women and children who are dying and starving, a ceasefire is needed. if you care for a future where peace can come to this region, a ceasefire is needed. next, the house will consider h.r. 7888, the reforming intelligence and securing america act. the bill re-authorizes fisa for
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five years and implements minor changes to the program. the republicans have raided -- waited until the last minute to bring this re-authorization to the floor. well, i will say, they tried once before, back in february. we had a hearing in the rules committee, valentine's day, it was great. we saw amazing bipartisan agreement from the judiciary committee. but we never did get to hear from the intelligence committee. instead, republicans waited until the last minute. expires in nine days. that's not a way to govern. this is an important bill that needs conversation and debate. members need to hear from the two committees with jurisdiction over fisa to determine how they will vote and the important balance between protecting constitutional rights of citizens and protecting our national security.
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next, this rule makes in order h.r. 529, the extending limits of u.s. customs waters act. while this bill is a bipartisan bill which i will point out received unanimous support in committee and will probably receive almost near unanimous support on this floor, this is the kind of bill that usually doesn't go through rules, it's the type of bill that would normally pass under suspension. why wasn't it put under suspension? is it because house republicans needed something that could finally pass the rules committee, come to the floor and maybe make it into law? the last bill to pass the rules committee and become law was almost a year ago. almost a year ago. before we did the people's business on this floor. where we actually got a bill, sent it out of rules, sent it to the senate and made it on the president's desk. republicans have presided over the most ineffective sessions of congress in history. despite the pressing challenges facing our nation, they have
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repeatedly chosen to prioritize silly censures, sham impeachments and do-nothing messaging bills. that's no way to run the house. that's no way to run the people's house and address the people's business. meanwhile, democrats have kept our focus on delivering for the american people and implementing the incredible laws we passed last congress when democrats controlled this house, which was, by the way, the most successful and most productive in recent memory. we in the last years have carried the vote to make sure the u.s. didn't default on its debt last year, democrats carried bills to fund the government and keep it running and to protect against draconian spending cuts. democrats always stand ready to work across the aisle to tackle important issues. this includes coming together to work on a bipartisan solution,
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comprehensive solution to fix the border, to secure the border. to lower costs. we hope that our colleagues will work with us. with that, mr. speaker, i urge my colleagues to vote no on this rule and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the chair would remind members to refrain from engaging in personalities towards presumptive nominees for the office of president of the united states. the gentlelady reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. roy: the thank the speaker. the reason we have a resolution on the floor to stand and say that we believe that the biden administration is failing out its duty to secure the border of the united states is because it's true. because the american people need to know that and see that and see us speaking with one voice and the reason we have a resolution on the floor saying that we should stand with israel is because the administration walked away from israel, abandoned them in a vote in the security council vote by abstaining. that's the truth. that's why these resolutions
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matter. that's why they're here on the floor. but we're going to have a lot of debate here about the foreign intelligence surveillance act. and on this i think there's a lot of bipartisan agreement. there are a lot of bipartisan concerns about the size and scope of government. i think it is important to remember, james madison wrote to thomas jefferson, may 13, 1798, quote, perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged against danger, real or pretended, from abroad. the founders knew what they were doing. the founders intentionally built into the united states constitution protections for us, protections for the people. unfortunately the legislation before us doesn't do what is necessary to answer the question. to secure the people's rights. there are amendments that are in order that might, that might get
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the legislation there. remember, section 702 allows the n.s.a. to surveil non-u.s. individuals and organizations abroad if a significant purpose is to acquire foreign intelligence information. which it defines as information related to the conduct of u.s. foreign affairs. remember, there are some 230,000 targets that the government has, the blob, the intelligence community has that they're targeting over there. overseas. targeting externally. but here's the problem. they're collecting information here in the united states on those individuals, we don't know who they are. i asked the judiciary committee chairman, staff, do you all know who they are? you have gone into a scif? you have seen who they're targeting and the sean no -- answer is no. we don't know who they're targeting. then information is collected and communication to those individuals, which necessarily brings american citizens into the mix. so the question is, what do we do about it? remember this, and then i want to recognize my friend from
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kentucky. the privacy and civil liberties oversight board report released last year stated, quote, ordinary americans may be in contact with section 702 targets for business or personal reasons. even if the americans have no connection to or reason to suspect any wrongdoing by their foreign contacts. that is an important issue. that is at the heart of the debate. and what we have right now before us is a rule to bring forward re-authorization of legislation passed so that we can go try to protect our country, supposedly looking outward, but it has ensnared american citizens and their information. and that is why we're here anded question is whether we're going to have the ability to amend it to ensure american citizens should be protected. with that i yield thee minutes to the gentleman from kentucky. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. i recognize the gentleman from kentucky. >> i thank my colleague from texas.
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today we're voting on a resolution that will bring forward re-authorization of a program that's been abused for decades. mr. massie: the those if favor will vote ayes 702 surveillance program. before we vote on that program, though, this resolution that we're voting on now prescribes that we will bring forward an amendment to require warrants. if you want to spy on americans, if you want to use this database as a back door to look at the privacy, the private information of americans, you would need a warrant. if this amendment passes. now, there's some people who say, oh, getting a warrant is too hard. it will slow us down. you'll put americans in danger. listen, i've been in the skiff. the classified area where they're supposed to tell us the problems with requiring a warrant. and they never have told us an example, a single example of where getting a warrant would be a problem to national security. in fact, we've got a provision in the warrant amendment that says, in exijent circumstances
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you can skip that step. you'll hear today that oh, everything's fine, we don't need the warrant anticipated. we've got 53 reforms in this package. here's the problem with those reforms. we rely on the same people that abuse the system to enforce those reforms. and they still don't go to the constitutional level that is required in this country. who doesn't trust those 53 reforms? congress doesn't trust those 53 reforms. the authors of this bill, you know how i know? because they put an exemption, two exemptions for themselves in this bill. that's right. if the f.b.i. is going to use 702 fisa to spy on congressmen, they have to tell congress. they even have to get permission from the congressman they're spying on if they say it's for the congressman's own good. why do we have a provision in there that exempts congressmen but not all of america?
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americans deserve the protections that are enshrined in the constitution. nothing less should pass this house. this is an enormous database. they're going to it tell you, oh, we're just looking at intelligence that was gathered on foreigners. the problem is, they're collecting this intelligence in the united states. using service providers in the united states. using internet connections in the united states. they collect a lot of stuff here. do you think the n.s.a. employee who did a fisa search on a tinder date was looking for information about hamas? no. there's all kinds of information in there. and that's why it's being abused. that's why we need the warrant provision. i urge folks to vote for this rule so that you can vote for the warrant provision amendment and if that amendment doesn't pass, you shouldn't vote to re-authorize fisa. with that, i yield back. mr. roy: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlewoman from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: mr. speaker, it is my great honor to
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yield five minutes to the gentleman from massachusetts, the distinguished ranking member of the committee on rules and a mentor, mr. mcgovern. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: thank you, mr. speaker. and i want to thank the gentlelady for yielding. mr. speaker, this place is so broken. it's pathetic. and it's interesting to listen to the gentleman from texas who is now managing this rule who regularly lectures us on the importance of regular order and making sure that we have a more open process. and the rule that he's bringing before the membership today, four measures, three of these measures are being brought to us under completely closed rules. no amendments are made in order. three of the bills weren't even considered by committees of jurisdiction. no hearings and no markup and yet here we are. what a wonderful process to celebrate. i mean, this place is not
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functioning. we don't even know whether this rule that we're spending time debating today will even pass. because there's such disarray on the republican side. it is a pathetic way for this congress to be run. but, mr. speaker, let me -- i could be here all day talking about the dysfunction on the other side. but i want to rise today to applaud two public servants who i think have made this institution a better place. first is our senior professional staff member and director of member service, eric delaney, who will have his last day with us this friday. eric is a philly native and alum of binghamton university new york and he's spent over 18 years working for the american people here on capitol hill. like many staffers, e eric's journey began when he became a legislative assistant working for ted strickland and the people of ohio. he spent eight years as a senior advisor for member services under caucus vice chair and then chair becerra. he served as legislative
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director for representative anthony brown before joining the rules committee in 2018. eric has an impressive resume, but let me also say, he's also just a great guy and an integral part of our team. his dedication to public service, skill as a coalition builder, fast problem solving, and quiet leadership have left a mark on all of us and we will miss him at the rules committee. we are sad to see you go, eric, but excited to see what you accomplish in your new role at the department of energy. and on behalf of all of us, i want to thank you for your hard work and unwavering commitment to this institution. mr. speaker, i also want to congratulate my dear friend, tom cole, who has officially been selected by the republican conference as the next chair of the appropriations committee. it is no surprise to me given his skill as a legislator, his dedication as a public servant, and his decency as a person. i cannot think of any other
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i cannot think of any other person i'd have chair the rules committee except me but that will take a change in the majority and up to the american people, not us. and it's not just in public -- he has consistently demonstrated a tremendous respect for this institution and always conducted himself in a way that demonstrates it. it's not just in public when the cameras are rolling but he does it in private, too. he's a man of integrity, a man of his word, and he works hard to do the right thing even after the gavel comes down and the camera is shut off. to be honest, i wish there were more tom controls in congress because he knows the secret of legislating, which is you don't have to agree on everything to agree on something. the american people send us up here to work out our differences on their behalf, to do what is right for our country. it's a skill i've seen. i've seen tom cole
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deploy time and time again to bring people together and try to find common ground. although chairman cole and i don't always see eye to eye, i think what we've done is show the american people it's possible to disagree without being disagreeable. and i think that's worthwhile. i think it matters, especially in this time of polarization and partisan anger. and one more personal note, and i said this last night in the rules committee, i hope i don't get in trouble for this, but i value tom cole's friendship and his -- and respect his guidance and the example he sets around here. he conducts himself in a thoughtful, decent, and dignified manner. i am thankful for the staff that he has surrounded himself with. i think it reflects positively on him and they're a credit to this institution. i hope he doesn't take them all away from the rules committee when he goes to appropriations. but i look forward to continuing to work with him in his new capacity. and i think all of us can learn a lot from
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chairman cole, and we should all join in a bipartisan way in honoring his service to this institution and to this country. with that i yield back my time. ms. leger fernandez: thank you so very much. thank you very much for the words. i think they were very inspiring as to the wonderful leadership we've had with chairman cole, and also, we're going to miss eric. and with that i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentlewoman reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. roy: i want to thank the gentleman from massachusetts for his kind words for our colleague, mr. cole. those of us on committee will miss working with the gentleman from oklahoma. obviously as the gentleman from massachusetts pointed out, he won't be going far and will be in the hall of the appropriations committee, we won't get ahead of things, it's not formalized yet, but seems that's the direction it is going.
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it's been an honor to work on the committee with tom cole. again, without getting ahead of things, i think there's able folks on the rules committee and dr. burgess, my friend from texas, very likely be in that role, and i'll look forward to working with him in the rules committee. with that, i'd like to yield two minutes to the gentlelady from wyoming. ms. hageman: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today in favor of this resolution which sets up the house of representatives to consider much needed reform and limitations to the foreign intelligence surveillance act. with the pending expiration of 702 of fisa, congress is tasked with forming an authority intended for foreign intelligence collection but which has turned into warrantless surveillance of the american people. the targeting of americans is well documented, reporting from the office of the director for national intelligence founded in 2021, the f.b.i. conducted over 3.3 million u.s. person searches without a warrant.
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in 2022, the f.b.i. was still conducting hundreds of warrantless searches each day. these queries targeted members of congress, state officials, judges, campaign donators, and more. in may of last year, "the washington post" reported in early 2020 and 2021, the f.b.i. conducted over 278,000 searches of the 702 database that violated rules and often lacked national security connections. even the fisa court found that, quote, the f.b.i.'s querying of section 702 information has proven to be persistent and widespread, end quote. warrantless surveillance of the american people by the federal government in violation of the fourth amendment is well documented and well known. if such an alarming reality does not merit serious reform and appearing back of authorities, then my question is, what does? as a member of the judiciary committee, i was proud to be involved in the development of the protect liberty and end warrantless surveillance act which
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through we first advanced these important reforms. the fisa working group was the next installment of this important process and the reforming intelligence in securing america act is a good start, but there is more work which must be done. the underlying rule makes in order three critically important amendments, one prohibiting warrantless searches of americans in the 702 database, one ending the overly intrusive abouts collection and one enhancing reporting requirements and injecting congress into the fisa court process. this is important to enforcing transparency. i urge my colleagues to support this rule and support these three amendments. and with that i yield the balance of my time. mr. roy: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman reserves. the gentlewoman from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: i appreciate the rule makes in order several amendments for the reforming intelligence and securing america act. and these are amendments that we heard about that both the members of the judiciary and
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intelligence committee have proposed, but we also heard last night in rules that there were many important amendments the committee blocked and that the full house won't get to consider. the process on this could indeed have been better. what i wonder now is do we even have the votes to pass this rule? because we need to be able to get to a point where we are taking up on the floor of the house, putting rules on the floor of the house that are going to get the votes. as we know, they've already defeated six of their own rules. these are important matters, and i think it is important that we get to do the work. and with that, i reserve the remainder of my time. i would also like to inquire, mr. speaker, how much time do i have remaining? the speaker pro tempore: t he gentlelady has 13 .25 minutes remaining. ms. leger fernandez: thank you. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. roy: i'm going to recognize my friend from arizona in one second.
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i would point out that on this issue, one of the concerns that we have is ensuring and ad quit and fair hearing on the issue of the warrant amendment. the gentleman from kentucky raised the issue, as did the gentlelady from wyoming, the importance of the warrant protection for american citizens. it cannot be overstated the extent to which throughout our founding and history, it has been critical to place that constitutional barrier between the authority of government being used in the name of defense and in the name of security in a way that tramples on the rights and the security of the american people. that is what is at issue. that is the conundrum we face. for all of us that wish to protect our country, we know first and foremost we must protect our civil liberties or there is no country to protect. i will yield two minutes to my friend from arizona. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman is recognized. >> i thank the gentleman
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for yielding time to me. let me tell you what bothers me. so we know that there is a severe problem with the apparatus of the federal police state abusing fisa, both section 702 and title 1 to use those authorities to surveil and search americans' private data. mr. biggs: i more than to put every member of this body on the record, do you support the warrant protections granted under the fourth amendment to your constituents? i want everyone on the record on that. but in order to get there, we put at risk this bigger, broader problem, because the other amendments made in order will expand that authority before we know we can even curb the authority. so you're creating another bucket for which
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you are exposing american citizens, innocent american citizens, 19,000 donors to a political campaign. don't tell me that all of those 19,000 were in contact with hamas. they weren't. the system was abused. that's why we need the warrant requirement. that's why we need the fourth amendment. but we're not going to be able to consider that. what i'm telling you is we have the conundrum, as my friend from texas has said, of the speaker saying we're going to brief you on what n.s.a., c.i.a., f.b.i. says, but we're not bringing in anyone to counter what they say and we're going to do it in a difference -- in a skif so you can't tell the american people. but i want
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accountability, to myself and everyone else in this body. and that's why i'm leaning towards voting for this. but on the other hand, the real question is, are you going to go ahead and expand the authorities of the federal police state just because you want a vote? i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlelady from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: we can see there is strong consideration on some of the issues with regard to fisa, but we've also seen we are so close to expiration. i really wonder whether the rule will pass. i haven't heard them talk about whether they think the rule will pass. as i noted, six rules have been killed on the republican side. there was also a tweet recently issued by the presumpive presidential nominee and in all caps it says, and i'm simply quoting the tweet, not
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making any observations, but it says -- i can't yell that loud but kill fisa, it was illegally used against me and many others. they spied on my campaign. end quote. i wonder whether this house will continue to move forward on the business that must be done, or whether tweets will indeed lead to what action we are taking here today. hopefully we'll take action that needs to move forward. with that i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentlelady reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. roy: i'd inquire how much time is remaining on our side. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman from texas has 15 1/2 minutes remaining. mr. roy: i thank the speaker. with that i'd like to yield two minutes to my good friend from pennsylvania. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the good gentleman from texas. i'm here to remind myself and everybody that we each took an oath to uphold and
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defend the constitution and within the constitution the bill of rights is the fourth amendment. i'll just read a portion of that for you all. the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, shall not be violated. mr. perry: it doesn't say, well, if we have an important matter, we can violate it. if it's too difficult and takes too long, mr. speaker, we can violate it. it doesn't say that. it says it shall not be violated. we're here to debate the rule today on this. i'll tell you, i have concerns about because we worked to make sure amendments would be in order so we could vote for them on the floor. i have concerns about the rule. but assuming this bill passes and the bill comes to the floor, mr. speaker, the f.b.i. and the intelligence agencies, just the last time there was a report out, spied on americans illegally, 278,000 times. and it's sure long
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pastime we do something about it. it is sure long pastime. i will tell you the fact they're quibbling and fighting about the fact of having a warrant requirement and they're fighting over protecting the data that they're purchasing, not just on me, mr. speaker, not just on you, the people in the gallery, the people watching tv. every single american, these intelligence agencies without a warrant are collecting your information for which they each took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution which says they can't do it. mr. speaker, this re-authorization is not reform. it is not currently reform. it might be reform depending on the amendments available. but we already know that the one that protects your data from being bought by the f.b.i. is not going to be allowed. somebody has to stand up for the constitution and the rights of the american people. and if i can't do anything else here in this house of representatives, you can count me for standing up for that. and with that, mr. speaker, i yield the
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balance. mr. roy: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: t he chair will remind members the rules do not allow references to persons in the gallery. the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlelady from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: thank you, mr. speaker. i, too, like many more take sacred the oath that we have taken to preserve the constitution. and i hope that as elections come up and as we think about how we make sure that we preserve our democracy, that those words continue to ring throughout all of my colleagues' memories of what has happened on the floor of this house. and with that i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentlelady reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. roy: i would yield two minutes to the gentlelady from indiana. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentlelady is recognized. ...
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mrs. spartz: i want to share with you why i specific concerns. first amendment rights of americans t has to do a lot with collection. where government and state go in the backbone and collect data about all americans, whatever they want. and then they have to go through other procedures. supposedly this procedure is supposed to limit the data that they incidentally collect about americans. no one ever audits what they are doing. if you remember what happened in 2016 where pretty much these minimization procedures didn't allow to collect about information. it means if you have the name of some potential terrorist in the body of your email, they can collect the data, but and they still did t they collected the data. what's happened? we don't know what's happened. but we also know in 2022 that
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new technique was authorized where according to the review of the oversight board, if used in the widespread way and not minimized can be extraordinary, intrusive. this is a very new sensitive technique. but there is no one ever check. we though these agencies how they felt so many times collecting data on americans. we are turning into a police state. this is a material flaw with this bill ai want to raise signature concerns and it has to be address or we are putting lipstick on a pig. thank you. i yield the balance of my time. the spe mr. roy: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: we reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. roy: i recognize my friend, mr. turner. the speaker pro tempore: how much time? mr. roy: up to three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for three minutes mr. turner: i'm here to -- standing in favor of
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this rule. this is an important rule that allows to come to this house floor the re-authorization of fisa and 56 signature reforms -- significant reforms to the bill to curb what has been just devastating abuses by the intelligence community and by the f.b.i. these reforms are essential to make certain that we can protect our most important national security tool, at the same time protecting americans, american citizens, and their civil liberties. i am in favor of this rule. i ask all my fellow members to support the rule. i want to thank specifically chip roy for his support for the rule as it came out of the rules committee. and appreciate him standing here today as we try to bring this rule to passage so we why bring this bill to the floor. thank you, mr. speaker. the spe mr. roy: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentlelady reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized.
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mr. roy: i thank the speaker. i would point out before i recognize my friend from ohio that the concerns that we are looking at here i think boil down to questions that people assert when they say, quote, l lawfully collected information so therefore you don't need a warrant. to search the 702 data for united states citizens' information. that's really at the crux of the debate going on. and the rule that we have before us, which takes a product to respond to and make reforms and changes, in response to some of the concerns raised, but then takes the critical and core component of warrant requirement and puts it off as an amendment subject to debate when there has been now some public pressure put on opposing the amendment. that's the conundrum you are seeing unfold for the american people to understand why there is some hesitation here to proceed when we are proceeding with reforms that don't get to the engine of the reform.
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reforms that might make improvements, but they are in the periphery. they ignore the core problem that fundamental issue as to whether or not you must have a warrant to look at the information of american citizens. that's it. that's at the core of it. we are talking about things that are significant. this is the tip of the iceberg . two members of congress, journalist, political commentators, victims who contacted the f.b.i., people to came to the f.b.i. offices to perform repairs. individuals of online dating service and now in this bill a carve out for members of congress. we get a heads up. hey, guys, you have been queried? why do we get something 330 million americans don't get? i yield up to three minutes to my good friend, the gentleman from ohio, mr. jordan. mr. jordan: i thank gentleman for yielding. i support the rule. like the gentleman i will not support the legislation unless
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we get this warrant amendment, that requirement in the legislation itself. query is a fancy name for search. and the intelligence community will tell us right now there are 200,000 query, 200 thousand searches that take place every year on u.s. persons. on american citizens. 200,000 a year. they are done conamerican citizens without a warrant and this is the f.b.i., my friend, member of the rules committee, just talked about, who's abused this system. 278,000 times. not mr. roy, not mr. jordan giving you that number. that's the number from "the washington post," 278,000 times inspector general at the justice department determined the f.b.i. did not follow the previous rules when they searched this database on u.s. persons. and now we are supposed to believe, oh, we have new rules, stricter rules, better rules.
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i'm all for those. now they are going to follow the new rules. didn't follow the old ones but now they'll full the new. go to the tried and true method. if you have the executive branch wanting to look at american citizens' information, they have to go to a separate and equal branch of the government, the judicial branch, and get a probable cause warrant. it's worked pretty darn well for 200-plus years in the greatest country ever. somehow we can't do it here? here's the fundamental question, 200,000 searches -- our warrant requirement has three exceptions. the first exception is if it's an emergency situation you don't have to go to a judge to get the warrant. you do the search. you find out. you protect america. two other exceptions in there as well. here's the fundamental question. 200,000 searches done on u.s. persons a year, how many of them aren't covered by the exceptions? guess what? nobody seems to be able to give us an answer. that's the question we need to know because if it's a big number we should all be scared f
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it's a small number, what's the big deal? no one will answer that question. that's what we need to know. the best way, the best way to safeguard the liberty of our -- people we get the privilege of representing is to do what's been done in this country forever, go get a warrant. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. mr. roy: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlelady from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: it's really important that the american people know that we are debating a rule today. and that rule has the fisa bill which we haven't heard much. but it also has other bills. half the bills, half the legislation that are on the floor today do nothing. they do absolutely nothing. and, in fact, it's not surp surprising that republicans, my colleagues, worry about the do-nothing congress. mr. speaker, i request unanimous consent to insert into the record an article from nbc news entitled, it's embarrassing.
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republicans worry they have no achievements to run on in 2024. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. leger fernandez: i would say that some of the quotes, i'm saying quotes, say, i hope there's enough adults in the room that are willing to focus on progress rather than purity. which means, when you don't have bipartisan legislation to work on some of the issues, my constituents have talked about, the resolutions that nobody on the other side wants to talk about because they do nothing, i would also point out that one of the quotes is, open quote, i want to my republican colleagues to do one thing, one, that can i go campaign on and say we did. one. roy yelled. anybody sitting in the complex. you want to come down to the floor and come explain to me one material meaningful significant thing the republican majority has done besides -- well, i get it's not as bad as democrats. but, mr. speaker, i think that's
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a really important thing that americans need to know. that when we were in charge of this house, we looked on making sure that we brought down the costs of prescription drugs. we made sure that we addressed the needs of the people of the american people. and with that, mr. speaker, i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. roy: ask how much time is remaining. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has 6 3/4 minutes remaining. the gentlelady from new mexico has nine 3/4 minutes. mr. roy: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlelady from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: mr. speaker, the previous question, which i hope we will, i will offer an amendment to the rule to bring up h.r. 12, a bill that would protect access to reproductive and abortion health care for the millions of
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americans who need it. make no mistake, mr. speaker, the far right and maga republicans will stop at nothing short of a full abortion ban. as of this month, over a dozen states have restricted access to that critical health care, with some extreme states eliminating access entirely. just yesterday, an arizona supreme court upheld a 160-year-old law? making it a felony to perform or induce an abortion at almost any time. this is inhumane. do we think republicans will stop at 15 states? 20 states? on the contrary. they won't stop until every single woman in this country is deprived of pro-right to make her own health care decisions. in conversation with her faith, her family, and her doctors without government interference.
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that's why house democrats are fighting to protect women, protect doctors, and protect patients who simply want access and to access needed care. h.r. 12, the women's health protection act, will prevent states from trampling on americans' constitutional rights and keep fundamental health care services available across the country. mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to insert the text of my amendment into the record along with any extraneous material immediately prior to the vote on the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. leger fernandez: mr. speaker, to discuss our proposal, i yield 2 1/2 minutes to the gentlelady from washington, dr. schrier. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. schrier: thank you to my friend and colleague, representative leger fernandez, for her commitment to ensuring women's access to abortion care. no matter where they are in this country. this is because extreme republicans are doubling down on
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their out-of-touch, i will repeat, extreme attacks on women as they march toward a national abortion ban. make no mistake. by overturning roe v. wade, the supreme court deprived millions of women the freedom to make one of the most personal and important decisions of their lives. and as a physician, in fact, a pediatrician, i understand that reproductive health care including abortion is part of women's health care. there's simply no place for politics in the exam room. this is a personal decision between a woman and her doctor. it is not a government decision. and government should not be meddling in health care. this is a slippery slope as we are already seeing. when there is a claim by my
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colleagues, by my republican colleagues, that life begins at conception, the moment a sperm touches an egg, boy, that's a slippery slope. we have already seen what that has done to i.v.f. care. families who desperately want -- parents who desperately want children are unable to have families now in alabama because of this ruling. this is interfering with even more aspects of women health care. next is contraception. again, make no mistake. as one of two pro-choice women doctors in congress, you can count on me to do everything i can to protect women's access to safe abortion, and this is why the women's health protection act, which will keep government out of this most personal and important medical decision, is so critical to pass. thank you. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields. ms. leger fernandez: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the
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gentlelady reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. roy: mr. speaker, prepared to close. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentlelady from new mexico is recognized. ms. leger fernandez: mr. speaker, i want to give everyone at home a behind the scenes look into what we just did here today. republicans need to fill because they have no agenda to work on. so of the four bills, three of them were do-nothing rules for bills that attack the president, a customs bill that has broad support and didn't need a bill. and fisa re-authorization, which we don't even know will pass. . i think americans want to know what we are not doing here, that we are not taking up the important legislation that
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americans are worried about, security assistance for ukraine, which the senate voted overwhelmingly to pass, the crucial aid to ukraine included in this would be critical to fight for democracy, but we're not even taking it up. we're not taking up the need to pass a farm bill. everywhere i go in my district in the rural area, what's happening with the farm bill? we're not taking that up. we're not taking up legislation to protect a woman's access to health care so that if she has a miscarriage, she is welcomed with assistance from her doctors and not handcuffs. you know, we pointed it out that the last bill to pass the rules committee and becoming law was almost a year ago. why? because republicans in this congress have been trying but failing over
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and over to govern. democrats in contrast are willing to work across the aisle on bipartisan issues to attack the important issues our constituents know we need to get done. we cannot continue to have the kind of in-fighting that stops legislative action for us to get the work we need to get done. mr. speaker, because of all the important issues that were raised, that we need to take up, that women and people who love the women, who want to make sure they have their health care they deserve. vote no on the previous question. let's take up the women's protection health care act. let's move on things that in every state, election after election, we know we need to get done.
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so i urge my colleagues to oppose the previous question and the rule, and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentlelady yields. the gentleman is recognized. mr. roy: i thank the speaker. i'd like to summarize what we've got in front of us, in particular with respect to the foreign intelligence issue. that's where we have i think the most debate. the fact of the matter is for the average american watching this, they're going to be confused as to what exactly we're doing because it's a complex issue. and i started this rule debate by quoting james madison who in 1798, i repeat, wrote to thomas jefferson and said, quote, perhaps it's a universal truth that the laws of liberty at home is to be charged against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.
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and i think that is the question that is before us right now. it is the balance that a nation struggles with, if you're a republic like ours, built on the back of liberty and our constitutional protections, that is trying to balance the need to stop evil abroad from attacking our people with protecting civil liberties at home. and what we have for the average american to understand is a big pot of collected information that is, in the words of the intel community, directed outward. and that large pot of information is directed towards some 230,000 people, individuals, entities abroad. but as i said earlier, we don't know who they are. we're not briefed on who they are. and when we try to go into that kind of level of briefing, it's often cloaked in the intel world. they just say well, this
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is dangerous, this is important stuff. so the judiciary chairman doesn't know who is on the list of 230,000 people. so from that list of 230,000 we don't know and which can expand or shrink at the whim of the intel community, we then take that information and communications with any of those individuals, if you're an american citizen, can get swept up and viewed by the intel community? that's where the abuses took place. and i've heard some of my colleagues say, well, you're asking for a secondary warrant when we say that the warrant amendment here is critically important. but that misses the point that you've got an intelligence driven apparatus to collect information abroad that then will sweep in communications by american citizens or u.s. persons into that database, those communications can now be seen, can be viewed. and as i noted, the privacy and civil
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liberties oversight board said, quote, ordinary americans may be in connection with section 702 targets for business or personal reasons even if the americans have no connection to or reason to suspect any wrongdoing by their foreign contacts. that is a problem. that is why the judiciary committee, the committee with primary jurisdiction, put in place additional protections in the form of a required warrant if you're going to look at the information of those american citizens. that is what is the wisdom of the very broad bipartisan 35-2 vote in the judiciary committee. that was removed. the bill is put on the floor before us, and now we're forced to proceed to a bill by virtue of a rule whereby we're not sure whether the issue at play, the warrant requirement, will be supported. now, ok, that might be fine. we have an open process. but it wasn't really an open process.
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it was a structured rule. it was provisions that were sort of cooked up to achieve the result. that's what we're looking at. and in truth, there are amendments that have been part of the rule that are the intel amendments which will expand fisa, which will expand the reach. and by all accounts, more likely than not will pass. and then there's the provisions that would constrain the power, that is, for example, the warrant requirement, or the abouts language which would limit the use of the more generic abouts so you have to target the specific individuals. or enhanced reporting, which happens to be my amendment. those provisions are meant to constrain government. so the conundrum you see play out on the floor is do you support the rule to proceed, to move forward under a hope that the warrant amendment will be passed
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because the sword of damocles hanging over the head is this will expire and there will be support to pass the simple re-authorization for five years. that's the truth. so here we will see what transpires. it's my considerate judgment that we ought to try as a body to stand behind a warrant requirement to make sure we protect the american people. with that, mr. speaker, i yield back the balance of my time and move the previous question on the resolution. the speaker pro tempore: t he gentleman yields. the question is on ordering the previous question on the resolution. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. ms. leger fernandez: the yeas and nays are requested. the speaker pro tempore: t he yeas and nays are requested, those in favor of taking this vote by the yeas and nays will rise and remain standing until counted.
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pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, further proceedings on the question are postponed. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess for a period of less than
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