♪ host this is the washington journal for march 22. a two hour show today. secretary estate antony blinken is in tel aviv to meet with israeli leaders to push for an immediate cease-fire in gaza and campaign for of offensive operations. this is happening as the united nations security council will vote on the u.s. dropped calling for a cease-re indote mideaif you oppose it, (202) 748-8001 sure, (202) 748-8002. if you want to send a text you can do that at (202) 748-8003. you can make your thoughts known on facebook and on x. cnn picked up the story about the secretary of state and what he plans to talk about with

israeli leaders on the cease-fire, saying he returns today as part of the intensive push to reach an immediate cease-fire. it is his sixth round. he rubbed just before 10:00 a.m. local time and will be with the prime minister and the israeli war cabinet. his coincides with the resumption of talks in doha tied to the release of hostages, and a vote of the united nations on a security council resolution calling for the cease-fire. the washington post picks up more about that resolution, saying it stronger condemns restrictions preventing aid from entering gazauc territory. attacks against civilians is violations of international law and warns against a military offensive init includes calls for a

cease-fire with no stated time limit, a provision that contri resolutions. the lengthy text mentions israel only once, calling for a two state solution and the target of most of its provisions. talking about the cease-fire pushed by the united states, calling for that push. (202) 748-8000 if you support ed states pushing for the cease-fire. (202) 748-8001 if you oppose it.(202) 748-8002 if you are not sure about the u.s. assuming that kind of role. you can post on facebook and on x. it was in ca yesterday, the secretary of state's stop for visits leading up for today's he spoke about the need to work with partners on a cease-fire and the role the united states should play. here is a portion of his comments from yesterday. [video] >> first the need for an

immediate sustained cease-fire with release of hostages. that would created space to relieve the suffering of many people and build something more enduring. we have been working with egypt with qatar and with israel to put a strong proposal on the table. hamas responded to that. the negotiators continue to work. the gaps are narrowing. we are continuing to push for an agreement into doha. i continue topossible. united states has put forward the security council resolution to support these efforts. we hope all countries will back that resolution. second, there is an agreement on need to sustain

humanitarian assistance to the people of gaza. children should not be dying of malnutrition in gaza or anywhere else for that matter. 100% of the population of levels of acute food insecurity. we cannot, must not allow that to continue. the cease-fire we are working on would be the best most immediate way to enable us to surge humanitarian assistance but is not the only way. regardless, we have to be doing that. we have seen improvement in the last couple of weeks and getting humanitarian assistance to palestinians but it's not enough. we need to really surge and sustained the assistance across land, across sea, and across air. host: the secretary of state yesterday on the topic of a cease-fire. do you support or oppose the united states making that push for a cease-fire?

if you support it, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose it, (202) 748-8001 . if you are not sure, give us a call at (202) 748-8002. you can also post on facebook and on x. text us at (202) 748-8003. lou in florida on the support line for t cease-fire. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you pedro and good morning america. i want to say i support the cease-fire. william burns is over there. he's a good man. he will try to mediate this thing. they goes back to resolution 242 other. blessed be the peacemakers. that is what i have to say. host: what he support a cease-fire specifically? caller: there is too much

suffering going on by the people. ther now and the is making air drops. there has to be an endgame. it is got to end -- it has got to end. host: michael in kansas on the oppose line. go ahead. caller: i'm here to say that wants to shake its nose in their business but it seems to me moreover we are in the habit of getting the job have done. as arn nam vet we got the job have done. in the middle east we got the job have done. it is time to let somebody get the job done. at least we make the best weapons money can buy anywhere in the world so let's get those weapons to israel and get the job done. host: why do you oppose a cease-fire call? caller: i'm sorry. that's a mistake.

host: we will leave it there. thpick the best one that represents you. if you support the cease-fire, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose the effort by the united states, it is (202) 748-8001. we have a not sure line. n those two things, (202) 748-8002. you can reach us on that line. purnell in new jersey supports the effort. caller: good morning pedro. host: go ahead. caller: i support this effort because we give aid to israel. we give them more aid than we give any other country. how many times are we going to ask them to cease-fire and yet they going? it is basically genocide. also, going back to the west bank and the gaza strip going

back to president carter, look how much land israel in 1947 1967, and even today. it is a landgrab. what they are doingnetanyahu is doing is take the whole gaza strip and also said no palestinian men can come back. it is a landgrab at our expense. we are funding this and it's genocide and that's unacceptable. host: anthony on the oppose line in pennsylvania. good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: i'm going to keep it short. because they invaded their country. what they are doing is defending what is their right to do and

get rid of hamas that is a terrorist community. in my opinion -- i'm a veteran. we pulled out of afghanistan which was a disaster. in my opinion they should continue what they are doing for those reasons. that is my opinion. host: you can continue by calling the phone lines and post on facebook and on x if you want to give your thoughts. th eight and gaza has been stuck at the border for ththri president's promise to stand with israel. if you want to text us, (202) 748-8003. that is how you t.axios picks up a story from the information and pew research center about the support americans are stressing at of 12,000 plus people surveyed, 50% of those supported

providing humanitarian aid to help palestinian citizens. 36% of those said to provide u.s. military help israel in the war against hamas. polled by the pew research center say the u.s. should play a major diplomatic role ina call for cease-fire is part of that. the secretary of state in tel aviv this morning. the u.n. expected to vote on those things, on those same issues. stay close to our website and app for news that develops out of that. roy on the support line. he is in michigan. go ahead. caller: [indiscernible] they went into gaza [indiscernible] host: let me stop you. i will put you on hold because you are breaking up. try to correct that signal if you can. we will try you in a couple of

minutes. ed in clarksburg, west virginia on the oppose line. caller: hi oppose the cease-fire until i hear that every hostage has been released. until the hostages have been no cease-fire. remember they invaded israel. israel turned around -- how would the people in this country feel when japan bombed hawaii in 1941 and the japanese said we want peace fire and we will not release americans oroh ok. that's a good idea. i don't know what in the dickens is the matter with the people in this country. i am 89 years old.

i have never seen people with the attitude that the people of this country have and the democratic party -- i can't believe the democratic party. host: ok. sylvia. we have set aside a line for those who are not sure at (202) 748-8002. that is where sylvia is at resident of virginia. caller: hello. i'm getting confused. i am part jewish but we have arabic people in our family. we have people from syria that have married into the family. it gets very confusing when i see the horrible thing that happened on october 6 but i see children dying of starvation . you wonder should there be a cease-fire. i'm hoping bibi will figure this

out because i don't like to see children slaughtered or dying of starvation. it is extremely -- i'm very i think we need to let the heads of state deal with it. i can see why the united states wants to do a humanitarian, you know, set up docks so they can get their food. women and children. there are even adults that neither food. men. they are not anything against us. i just pray for all of them. host: you can continue calling on the line that best represents you when it comes to united states's push for a cease-fire. if you support the effort, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose it, (202) 748-8001 . t viewer, (202) 748-8002 if you are not sure. while that is going on things to look out for out of washington d.c. today. an effective appropriations bills

in an effort to keep from the government running out of money at midnight tonight. what you might expect in the house of representatives. this will come as no surprise but republicans are struggling to round up enough votes to pasthe $1.2 trillion minibus funding bill. it's approaching that level. the count on thursday came in softer than the house republican leadership would like. leadership aids expressed confidence they can deliver enough votes to hit the two thirds needed to pass the 1000 page measure. a partial shutdown begins at midnight although it will not be fully felt until monday. numerous republicans are concerned with border security provisions, the huge price tag secretive negotiating and the lack of a pay hike for members of congress. the unrest is especially acute among conservatives but are deeply upset with speaker mike johnson. this is a two-part thing to watch out for. if it does pass the house you

can follow along on our main network on c-span. also the app and the dot org. if it pas t watch the package of appropriations bills. margaret in new york on the not sure line when it comes to the u.s. efforts on calling for cease-fire in the mideast. good morning. caller: hello pedro. i don't understand what we are doing here. i do see without a doubt and with great justice israel is attempting to eliminate hamas. that has been so difficult. now have people hammering it. no, is terrible, is genocide. i look at i see the people support hamas. while we responsible for their actions? -- why are we responsible for their actions? they are supporting hamas. if they stand up and say we need help, we need to get free of these people then i think they

would have allies in a minute. but they don't do that. i have not heard that. it's unfair. we have an administration of democrats -- i used to be a democrat who were timid and worried about everybody thinks and have never known an enemy when they see one. i don't know what you do about that but we will become, as chuck schumer said, a pariah if we continue to support those people who say we have to commit genocinow we, by proxy with israel -- not we. by proxy with israel. host:u in ohio on the not sure line. caller: i see they need to support, but like the last woman that you talked to i think the people ought to turn on hamas. they ought to go in and turn them people in and tell the israelis where they are at so they can take them out.

if they have done that i would be all for giving ras of right now i'm not sure we need to do anything for them. host: from bill in california on the oppose line. hi. caller: hey pedro. how are you doing? first time caller. i oppose. i think israel was at peace before this happened. i think they should finish the job that they need to do. it is going to be an ongoing thing if they don't get a chance to finish this commitment. i think the israeli army is professional. they went after the nazis after the war was over in germany. i oppose the cease-fire. they came this far. they are probably near the end and they know what they are searching for. i think they should continue and

we should leave them alone and let them finish the job. host: bill and california giving his thoughts on the united states push for a mideast cease-fire. (202) 748-8000 it. if you oppose, (202) 748-8001. (202) 748-8002 if you are not sure. one of the stories stemming out from efforts to support israel during this time was on cnbc johnson amongst other things he talked about said he will plan to invite and rarely -- israelianyahu to congress. here is some of his reasoning from the interview. [video] >> we spoke with the prime minister as recently as yesterday morning. are you going to invite him? >> i would love to have him int session of congress. we will certainly send the invitation. i have been invited to speak at the knesset. i think i would be the third u.s. speaker in history to do that.

we are trying to work out schedules. what chuck schumer did was almost staggering and unbelievable to suggest to our strongest ally in the middle east, the only stable democracy he knows better how to run their democracy is absurd. called for a regime change in ukraine in the middle of their crisis fighting for their survival. at for the leader of the senate to say such a thing was outrageous. i think it was received that way in israel. i don't think they appreciate that and it sends a terrible signal to allies and enemies around the world. i wish schumer would keep his comments to his cell phone that. >> errupt. wouldn't he have to buy in on the prime minister speaking to congress? he wouldn't say no, would he? >> i guess we will find out. on the one that extends the invitation to speak in the house. if we just have the house, that's fine. a big majority of the senate

mode want to stand in supportu and israel. i think is a critical time for that nation. they are fighting for their existence. we them and we have passed resolutions to do so. i have attempted twice to get the israel funding done. we will turn to the supplement to level those issues immediately upon the appropriations being done. that is what is happening today and by the weekend. we will address that and look at it. we have lots of conversations on different routes to handle that. i will not show all the cards but there are thoughtful ideas on how to do it and i think we will get the job done and project strength. we maintain peace through strength. that's an old reagan admonition and one we still believe in. host: that was yesterday on cnbc. chuck schumer talked a little bit more about those common team made in the week about israeli elections. we will show you what he said in just a bit. this is the headline from the times of israel about that security council vote. the u.s. to bring the motion for

a gaza cease-fire and hostage deal to a vote on friday. the draft calls for an weeks linked to captive release and a similar calls for the pause in fighting. this is from steve on the u.s. efforts towards a cease-fire. he's in massachusetts. he supports it. caller: morning. i'm an american jew who thrive. -- thrive in a dangerous part of the world. obviously they were dastardly attack on october 7. they have every right to defend themselves. but this has turned into a humanitarian disaster. they have to be better than this. they can conduct military operations a sw humanity. i think the problem is netanyahu

has become such an evil actor on par with trump and he knows his power is in question. i think that is why this has been amped into this situation. host: finish your thoughts, steve. caller: i think the israeli people en mass want him gone but the way their system is where you have to call elections, he's never going to do that. their government is so disjointed. you know how many elections they had a couple of years ago. plus all the bad things he's i think he is just making the situation all that much worse. host: california on the oppose line. hello. caller: hello. it was very calm on october 6.

e that calm? the people who broke the calm are the villains. they need to be defeated. you fight your enemy until your enemy surrenders. in 1944, what would people have said if we said we need to halt the american army moving upon hitler and we must negotiate and have a cease-fire? that would be our ridges. you fight until the enemy surrenders period. anything else is foolish. host: this is randy in ve been enough civilian door-to-door, screening and separating citizens from hamas agent. e goes on trial for corruption. jeffrey get the by israelis against thisthe hostages need to come home. famine and suffering in gaza needs to end. those of the ways you can reach us aside from the phone lines. (202) 748-8000(202) 748-8000 it is -- it is (202) 748-8003 to text us. facebook.com/cspan and on x at

@cspanwj. james oul)caller: i want to say i support our president joe biden. things i don't even know about become evident when he talks. i think he is a great man. i support him entirely. i'm learning from him as i get to know him . host: as far as the cease-fire calls, why do you support that? caller: i think biden is for it. i support joe biden host: ok. brent in west virginia on the oppose line. call. apparently we found the one guy who really love joe biden. ok. i think it was 2003 or 2005,

israel at the behest of the international community and united states pve territory in gaza to these so-called palestinians. it's important to remove or there is palestine. there is no such nationality is palestinian. they allowed them to live there and they thought that would bring pea because everybody was talking about a two state solution. it turns out one of the parties who would be in one of those two states does not believe what a two state solution. they want to eliminate the state of israel. 7 and after when hamas attacked israel and tortured women and raped them and burned babies and put people in ovens and all this horrific demonic stuff they had body cams. they filmed that all. they went back to gaza and they

showed this to these supposedly innocent people. how dithey laughed and they celebrated. they cheered. it was a great day for allah and all this other nonsense. the deal should be folks in gaza have a choice. ur things and get out of israeli territory or you risk because at 48 hours in one minute the bombing begins. all these people who are bleeding so freely over this suppose it humanitarian crisis and of this ridiculous claim of genocide they don't know what a humanitarian crisis or genocide is. host: let's hear from lee in illinois on the support line. caller: good morning pedro. morning. caller: i support it because i don't understand how israel can be searching for hostages and

constantly bomb. i don't understand. israel needs aid and its pairing aid -- how can hamas be on the run and having military weapons? it seems like israel can do this more surgically and the humanitarian aspect of it is ridiculous. i don't understand how they can they would a better way. host: spent half an hour on your calls for the u.s. pushing for mideast cease-fire. if you're not sure, we will continue on. the lines are on thscreen i to call us that way. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. decomposed on the socials on facebook and on x. it was earlier in the week you heard senator chuck schumer in a recent speech talking about calling for new elections in light of what was going on. it was yesterday on capitol hill

he responded to questions aut that speech and clarified more of what he was intending to do with it. here's a portion of that from yesterday. [video] >> the democrats don't have an anti-bibi problem, it's an anti-israel problem. equating what you said about netanyahu two interference. -- to election interference. >> i care deeply about israel and its future. when you make the issue partisan you hurt the cause of helping israel. yes? >> visit trooper prime minister netanyahu addressed the democratic caucus and you declined? >> when you make the issues partis you heard the cause of israel. -- hurt the cause of israel. >> foreign election. [indiscernible] that is what republicans are saying. >> i gave the speech out of a

real love for israel. if you read the speech we called only for there to be an after the hostilities had declined after hamas was defeated. host: these comments from yesterday about that speech initially given byschumer. you can find the speeches in every thing said about this topic to date on the house and floor and senate and other forms on our website at c-span.org. type it in the search box to look at more. for the recent events that take place on capitol hill and around washington, if you want to see it on your phone or device you can go to the app at c-span now. u.s., do you support or oppose those calls? maybe you are not sure. in north carolina on the oppose line tony. caller: good morning pedro. the gentleman from virginia a moment ago just said it perfectly. the palestinians have never

asked for a two state solution. it is unbelievable that this becomes the mantra among the democrats in this country and many europeans. i'm not just talking about hamas. they never said we will recognize the jewish state. that is antithetical to anything. they have been offered many times. we will not go through all the history but they will never agree to it because theiris either the elimination of the state of israel or simply the replacement of the state of israel as a palestinian state. leave it intact, the country that has been built up. i would say to anyone who cares about a cease-fire and everyone should care about a permanent cease-fire you have to defeat this organization with their weapons. as has been mentioned by others, the lesson of history. whether it was world war ii or countless other words. war is hell.

four is terrible. for anyone who truly despises war as i do you want to make sure it does not happen again. i think all of this is ridiculous. it's a way for people to further hatred onto one person. the people of israel generally support the policy, whether or not they like netanyahu or don't. in any democracy the people are on all sides of the issue. it's hoping it never happens again for anybody and that means complete victory. one last thing. direct your thoughts and hatred towards helping these people to hamas. they are the ones who were the impediment towards getting this solved. host: tony and north carolina. speaking of the invitation speaker johnson extended to benjamin netanyahu, axios reporting yesterday after the

invitation the news came out that senator schumer signaling and approval of the address or pending address should happen of benjamin netanyahu to congress. let's hear from west virginia. parsons, was virginia. jim on the support line. caller: hi pedro. the other guy that called her west virginia had to make a smart crackne guy that loves biden. there are a lot of people that love biden. he needs to stop with his trump matter-of-fact -- host: as far as the call for a cease-fire? caller: if you don't cut me off i can get to the topic at hand. let me speak. a lot of people want to blandly follow anything that trump says. the ab accords the people brag about did not do anything to help the major problem over there, the issue with the palestinians.

now that mr. west virginia history was talking about how the palestinians were not a real people, not a real land, go back to 1948 when the land was divvied up. go back further and that is a part of the whole mantra, to treat these people like they are not, you know, real human beings. it' issue -- i have listened to this for 50 years. if you keep people caged u to own land -- host: thank you. that is jim in westgihe mentioned the former president. the former president on a radio show early this week talking about affairs in israel and was going on. here is part of that perspective. [video] >> why is it seemingly this administration, including k schumer in the senate so hate the man that israel chose as their prime minister?

why did the democrats hate bibi netanyahu? >> i think they hate israel. the democrat party hates israel. th party, if you remember when many israeli representatives, including netanyahu came to the country trying -- begging at that time president obama, please don't make the iran nuclear deal, which is a disaster and was a saster. i ended it. unfortunately they did not do anything with the ending of it. i ended it and would have hadade with iran. he would have been good for everybody and no nuclear weapons. they are close to getting a nuclear weapon right now. once they have tha negotiation. a much more difficult negotiation. i really believe they hate israel. of -- don't forget. when you see the palestinian marches, i'm amazed at how many people are in thoseguys like schumer see that. to him it's about -- he was

always pro-israel. he's very anti-israel now. any jewish person that for democrats hates their religion. they hate everything about israel. they should be ashamed of themselves. host: that was the former president earlier this week. the new york times looks at some of the difficult -- difficulties that take place wheone of the things that categories are the air and sea efforts that will not solve the ountries announced measures to provide aid, including thousands of ready-to-eat meals and packages airdropped into gaza by the u.s. france, jordan, and other countries. officials say such efforts are costly and slow, emphasizing delivering aid by trucks is the most efficient way to distribute food and gaza. -- in gaza.

an expert describes airdropped as an absolute last resort. at worst they can be deadly. gaza 30's reported this month that at least five people were killed and several wounded by humanitarian aid packages that fell on them and gaza city. it's a series of articles taking a look at the efforts to bring aid into the region and the complications. you can find that in the new york times. when it comes to the efforts on cease-fire sarah in new hampshire is a supporter of it. caller: goodi constitutionalist. -- am a t. i believe in freedom of religion and freedom from religion. there were no problems 75 years ago. he had jews, palestinians and christians all living harmoniously. it was when european and american jews came to create this artificial church state of

israel and there's a discernment between zionist and real jews. real jews of a the 10 commandments. thou shalt not kill, love the neighbor thou shalt not steal. zionism is a genocidal political ideology. host: how does that contribute to your thoughts on supporting a cease-fire? caller: 31,000 people have been killed, mostly innocent, unarmed palestinian women and children. children are suffering. they have no morphine. they are dying on the floor of emergency rooms that have been bombed and attacked by idf. you have apac that has bought our government. my own senator took half a million dollars. to $1 million.

they have bought and paid for our government. they are supporting a church state. they have pledged allegiance to a foreign government. they would not be a problem if israel obeyed the treaties and international law. this is 75 years of apartheid. host: you made that point. george in ohio on the support line. you are next. caller: hi. i support the cease-fire but i want to clear that it support permanent cease-fire, not this prepend desperate tend -- not this pretend six weeks cease-fire. the biden ministry should have known since october the bombing condte bibi's administration has been indiscriminate. 31,000 that we know are dead with another 9000 plus under bubble.

. israel is fascinated. when israel came closest offering a real deal to the palestinians. they have never offered a real deal outside of that. the reality is they are asking the palestinians to give away the land they have lived 2000 years in exchange for nothing. the other offer is we are going to kill you, because that is what they did. they started killing them by the thousands with european weapons with the support of european anti-semites. host: kevin in pennsylvania on the not sure line. hello. caller: good mog i'm wanting some things cleared. the eu recently put out a statement saying thatpurposely blocking aid from getting into gaza. i don't know if you have seen the recent footage yet.

the idf -- there is footage of the idf intentionally killing unarmed civilians in the open in the middle of a field. when it comes to a cease-fire, israel has rejected it multiple times only because they don't want -- they want to continue the genocidal campaign they areon. what hamas wants is the prisoners -- nothe prisoners.the hostages israel has the innocent palestinians including men,bombing gaza right now is not going to help get the hostages home. that is all i have to say. host: lisa in missouri on the support line. caller: hi. america -- i support the

cease-fire in palestine. the gaza strip. that's pretty much all of got to say. we have feelings about why we support it or don't supported or not sure. that america. we all have different opinions. ahost: wull for a cease-fire? caller: the constitutionalist said if you take that area back in 1945 or 1947 and look at it have the colors change about how israel has eaten up all that land over there, plus the fact that the gaza strip -- if you wa gaza for the land it takes three checkpoints. i can go on and on.

soak in all of your callers. we are all very -- we see what is going on and we want to be a part of it. at the end of the date all we have is opinions. i support it. vote for pedro. host: calvin and caller: how are you pedro? i really enjoy your program. you do a great job. i really oppose the cease-fire because i remember when i watched on television when they voted in hamas to be there governing body. -- their governing body. they were cheering in the streets from one side of the road to the other as far as you can see back. they were celebrating and cheering and doing everything they could praising and voted hamas in to be the governing body.

i agree that innocent children, especially the children, something should be done. you something. for them not to allow them to even get out of the gaza strip where they would not be bombed and killed, which egypt could easily do, but they don't want them in their country. there is a problem with these people. if it was us and the same thing happened to us i do not believe we would be showing any mercy. we did not take things over during world war ii to the enemy territory and job supplies for them hoping the innocent people would have supplies for eating or medical or whatever. y'all do a good job and keep it up. i love your show every morning. host: thanks for watching and for participating as the show

gives you accessto call in. (202) 748-8000 if you support the effort by the united states on a cease-fire. (202) 748-8001 if you oppose it. ou are not sure, (202) 748-8002. william in connecticut. when it comes to a)6 cease-fire both support and oppose. innocent children and people are dying. opposing it because israel has the right to defend themselves and hamas post be rooted out. this is from john mcnally off facebook. long, long overdue. hamas must go. netanyahu and his corrupt government must also go. this has been badly handled by the biden administration. social media if you want to that route it is facebook and x. john in california on the support line. you are next up. caller: this is john from california. i want to say that i'm a maga

republican, always have been. i absolutely support the cease-fire right now. this has gone on way too long. it was oious from the start of this -- i call a bit more of an uprising than an actual war. the israeli-netanyahupo res gaza. they divided the country and half. they absolutely destroyed the northern end of it. their response was never about going after the bad hamas guys and getting back there hostages. that was never theit was always some final solution of eliminating that whole palestinian state. destroy the north end. now they are working to destroy the southern end. i live near the border, the southern border. what if we did the same israeli response to what is happening here on our southern border with

the illegal immigrants coming across the crimes they have been committing? would we be bombing tijuana or walrus, mexico? -- juarez, mexico? host: david in new york. caller: happy spring and happy new year to 300 million p asia and iraq. a cease-fire -- iran. a cease-fire is an immediate out the main cause. the main cause for 80 years is that the promise was made for two a long side-by-side states, israel and palestine. that has not been delivered. hamas or any type of terrorism is embedded into people's psyches because they have been disenfranchised for 80 years. u.s. once and for all for the first time becomes a

the word, impartial and really help establish two states the only solution on the table that really has been down the road is one united secular state and that small piece of land where every single person has one vote regardless of their religion, regardless of their ethnicity. that would be the american weight to way to proceed. host: three options if you want to give us a call with the minute we have until 8:00. you can continue to do so. the house coming in at 9:00 today. one of the things to watch n the house on thert seige networks. around capitol hill yesterday the attorney general of the united states merrick garland announcing that the soon sue apple over

the tech giant exploiting a legal monopoly over i -- illegal monopoly over its iphone. this was merrick garland yesterday. [video] >> the supreme court defines monopoly power is the power to control prices or exclude competition. as set out in our complaint apple has that power in the smartphone market. having monopoly power does not itself violate the antitrust laws but it does when a firm acquires or maintains monopoly power not because it has a superior product or superior business acumen but by engaging in exclusionaras set out in our complaint apple maintained its power not because of itsit's because of its unlawful exclusionary behavior. monopolies like apple's threaten the free and fair markets upon which arc economy is based -- our economy is based.

they her producers and workers and the increased costs for consumers. if left unchallenged apple will continue to strengthen its smartphonethere is a law for that. the justice department will enforcing the law protects consumers from higher prices and choices. that is the justice department's that is what the american people expect. that is what they deserve. host: more to that announcement if you want to check it out on the website and the app. one bit of political news yesterday concerning new jersey democrat bob senator announcing he is hopeful to run as an independent as he faces federal bribery charges in hopes to be exonerated before the general election. he said in a video announcement posted in the quickly taken down thursday will not be running for reelection as a democrat ahead of monday's

primary filing deadline. "the accusations i'm facing of which i am innocent will prove so and will not allow me to have that type of dialogue and debate with political opponents that have made it the cornerstone of their campaign. new jerseyans deserve better than that." more at nbc and other outlets. texas on the oppose line, dale. caller: i used to be unsure and everything because in the one hand it is sad for the innocent lives lost, until i watched the hearings on c-span recently about the generals testifying about the choices made by this administration and the state department withmrexit from afghanistan. since that it pushed me more in the opposition on this matter because it seems like there is more knee-jerk reaction to situations at times instead of

giving it a thoughtful consideration. another think i would like to bring up his i'm curious what the administration's response will be of some other countries around the world all of a sudden said they think the u.s. needs to hold elections right nowke schumer suggested to israel. thank you for your time. host: let's hear from in new jersey. caller: it looks like israel has never been safe and secure. it is tragic comparing israel today to the inspiring visions of early zionists whose description of the jewish state that would eliminate anti-semitism throughout the world and so forth. with this current pattern of destruction and the trauma to whatever fermenting population there is it seems it will reset the clock for future conflicts.

i say yes, stop it now. host: on the not sure line is stan in pittsburgh. caller: hi. i was listen to everybody talk and i was trying to think what i wanted to say. i'm a college student. i don't really read the news paper anymore. i grew up with the new york times. reading the wall street journal. when biden felt elected ist like you became the conservative new york times. i'm jewish. i have a different opinion. what i see as the core issue is we are talking about information and information we don't know if it is true or not true. i think think the kids really wrapped up with what is going on now. if the civil war was one of the first timesin warfare -- if you

look at the numbers, the civil war in america is one of the most deadliest in termsit was the first time there was machine guns being used and still calgary charges. tens of thousands of people were dying. they were gunned down. if this conflict, the technology we areg is the technology of information and social media. the power temperatures have on shaping how we feel. -- information has on shaping how we feel. i don't think we undsterand there is power in making us feel certain ways. the amount of especially on the phone how we can be inundated with messaging and have a video of a kid screaming or losing a leg, that is of course going to have a -- on how you feel on something.

who ind video and why did they want you to feel that way? we don't really have those. my main point -- i know i'm being scatterbrained but what frustrates me it seems what started the conflict is that hostages were taken. not just israeli hostages but american hostages. it is crazy to me that, i don't know, americans are taken hostage. that was not the number one issue. host: let's hear from larry in washington, d.c. on the support line. caller: a couple of venice ago -- minutes ago it was reported on msnbc and then it went away. two or three stories from the new york times ose newspapers. there was a plan, hamas's plan

that was intercepted a year before to plan for october 7 by netanyahu and his government. they set it aside. i don't know if it wasn't because they took it seriously or they wanted to see how they could use it. anyway, the plan was set aside. three month before october 7 qatar, which funds hamas asked netanyahu do you want to continue funding for withhold it? he said let them have the money. host: fire. caller: the third point i had before my conclusion was that white also did it take 8-10 ch is 14 hours for first response to get to the area that was encroached upon on

october 7? israel is not that big. host: we are running out of time, go ahead. caller: my support of the cease-fire is that the bombing was unnecessary when you could have launched strategic ground forces like against osama bin laden. we didn't drop bombs. host: washington, d.c. finishing up this hour of calls. thank you for all who participated. the houses and at 9:00 but we will hear from two legislators about the efforts to keep the government funded. we will have the chair of the national resources committee and later on the program, a different perspective from

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>> this year, c-span celebrates 43 years of covering congress like no other. since 1979, we been your primary source for capitol hill, providing balanced, unfiltered coverage of government. we take it to where the policies are debated and decided with the support of america's cable companies. c-span, 45 years and counting powered by cable. ♪ >> "washington journal" continues. host: representative bruce westerman serves the fourth district of arkansas, he is the chair of the natural resources committee, joining us on "washington journal" this morning. good morning. guest: good morning, good to be with you. host: when it comes to financial resources, there is a vote today on whether to keep the government funded or not. what do you think will happen? guest: i don't know, i think it will be much closer than it was on the appropriation bill last week.

i personally, i'm not pleased with the process that took place to get to the vote today. this was not the process where appropriation bills were debated and there was a four corners agreement and then we were given a short amount of time to review these bills and there are some things i've got problemsthere is obviously some important legislation in it. i'm personally still looking at it, trying to get to a point whether i will vote for it or not. host: what are the issues you have problems with you think to get your support of the bill? guest: here we are six months through the fiscal year and we are getting a chan to pass the last of the appropriations which will only last for six months. that's a broken process. we should have already been working on 2025 appropriations. when you look at what's in the bill, it wasn't enough just to have some modest changes to the

bill. senate democrats stuck in some earmarks in the bil that will not be very popular in my district. there are some other things in there as well they give me a lot of heartburn. we've got this big bill given a short amount of time to look at it and expect it to pass this afternoon. i've set for a long time we should have just done a continuing resolution until september 30 and be working on 2025 appropriation bill. i did vote for the appropriation , the last one that was up. we had a much better opportunity to look at what was in it and i don't think there is near as many writers in it that were detrimental to the conservative cause. host: as far who support you back on, you said some of these things may be concern to them. its chief among them? guest:clinics and transgender stuff.

all the things i think senate democrats put in their just to poke at republicans. host: when it comes to the actual elements of theill,er allinclud border coverage and theando policy riders on those lgbtq matters. is it a mixed bag this bill? guest: yeah, to me, the most important issue facing our country by far is the illegal immigration. can't see that this bill will do anything to stop the flow of illegal migrants coming across our southern border. i think it turned a blind eye to that. i'm not faulting our speaker. he was basically one of three back tour own conference killed the rural bill so we couldn't have any appropriations on the floor. at that point is when we should have just done the year-long cr and started working on 2025

appropriations. host: just to clarify, at this point, you are not a yes or no? guest: i'm still looking. host: bruce westerman here until 830 a.m. and if you want to ask them questions about this and other topics, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8001 for republicans and independents (202) 748-8002. you can also text us at (202) 748-8003. this has been declared energy week by the house, two bills passed this week regarding the energy. can you explain what those were? guest: those were bills to allows to continue producing u.s. energy. this week must've beenj? anti-commerce week by the biden epa coming up with some atrocious rules. this emission rule is one of the worst things i've seen come out so far. is just an added effort to force

americans to driveev's. i think they've seen the results of the ev program. you are seeing aut ev's they've made an hurts is selling off ev's of administration thinks the way to do that is double down on the regulato side. it would essentially require you to sell three ev's to sell one internal combustion engine pickup. i'll think this will fly with the americans. the biggest problem with this policy is it is based on a false presupposition. the administration seems to think if you electrify the u.s. passenger vehicle fleet that you will solve climate change, reduce greenhouse gas emissions. i've said all along the biggest problem with their energy policy is it's science and math. if they can get that part right this

illustrates that the u.s. produces are team .5% of the world greenhouse gas emissions. transportation. of the 28% about 58% comes from lightnow you are down to around 2% of all global greenhouse gas emissions coming from light duty trucks and passenger vehicles. ou can wave a magic wand and make everyone of those electric overnight, you couldn't even get your 2% reduction because only abt 40% of our electricity comes from non-carbon sources. your talk about the administration forcing economic policy and spending trillions of taxpayer dollars to achieve less than 1% of global greenhouse gas emissions. in the meantime, china billed 50 gigawatts of coal power plants last year. one of the last coal power plants is in my district, 650 megawatts.

china is building one of those every five days. this administration is trying to pull a blanket over the eyes of the american people that if you drive in ev, you will solve the global carbon emissions and so this whole ev policy that they are pushing is based on the presupposition. they are trying to scare americans and shame them into thinking they've got to drive and ev. they just don't work on a lot of places especially rural district like mine where auto dealers say they cannot move electric vehicles. host: we will talk about energy related issues but let's hear from some viewers, alabama republican line for bruce westerman, rep arkansas, the chair of the natural resources committee. go ahead. caller: good morning. much for being on the air and i appreciate everything you are saying. i agree with you 100%. i want to ask you specifically what are the earmarks.

i feel like that democratic committee is trying to bankrupt the spending bill but there's nothing the american public and do to stop this. on the electric vehicles, i went to change the oil in our gas vehicles and our oil company is now charging $200. we went to go by windshield wipers and they were $40 apiece. i feel like this regulation is forcing ing gas vehicles. thank you. host: thank you. i think these mandates by the biden administration electric vehicles are more about pushing some new part of the economy for their friends on wall street. they are deftly not about solving any carbon crisis. those numbers i quoted earlier,

that doesn't even include the embedded carbon that goes into making and ev. where the components are made, they are made in china. to make an ev come you got to have a lot of critical minerals which means you have to do more mining. the same administration that's telling us we have to drive ev's is telling us we cannot mine in america. it's forcing us to go buy critical mineral reason auto components made in china. that's not only hurting us economically but it's hurting us from a national security and global competition standpoint. this is badolicy. it's bad for america. host: you may have heard senato joe manchin or seen an op-ed earlier this week in the washington post touting the administration over its energy efforts and he talked about that let me play a little bit of what he had to say and get your response. [video clip] >> when ira bill on

the bipartisan infrastructure bill, my committee wrote close to all the energy part of that. it was half $1 trillion. it was very balanced. we want to make sure we had energy security. we produce fossil fuel cleaner than the rest of the world while you invest in technology for the future with less carbon. it took off andcountry. our country has never done this much and we've never invested this much in new technology that's bringing manufacturing ba. i don't know why they are not bragging about that. it's the same thing i said that if you're worried about the presence numbers, you've got to speak more and say this is an energy security bill. out is the environment. we are all concerned about the environment but if you are producingr than anywhere in the world and we are basically displacing a lot of the dirtier production don't you think that helps the cause? host: representate, that's the senator's perspective, what do you think? guest: i think joe is right from

the standpoint we need to be producing more of all kinds of energy. i don't have any problem with electric vehicles. let the market dictate if we need electric vehicles, don't make it a government mandate. this administration is attacking clean american energy by trying to ban lng exports to our allies which causes them to rely on russia and iran and qatar and other -- venezuela. we should be producing more in the u.s. and we areroducing more off a private lands but this administration is not doing offshore oil sales and they are doing very limited on sure leases on public land. because of the global market being strong, it's forced more production on private land but we should be producing off of our onshore and offshore. we should dominate global energy markets and not sit back and let russia fund their war in ukraine and not let iran fund the

terrorist organizat and oil companies make record profits year-over-year. host: representative bruce is jim and washington state, independent line. caller: yes, how are you doing today? guest: i'm well, thank you. caller: i hav i believe global warming is a serious problem. it's a hundred and 11 degrees up here athat shattered all records. i know it fluctuates because of the polar vortex. those that are concerned about your policies which we are, we would state that if i am running against you in your congressional race, then i am one out of 600,000 people in that district. you can say you don't need t i may still lose because you were only one vote. i understand the point about moving electric vehicles. i have some other reservations about it. if you apply that same

principle, you can say it's only 2% but then you can say when it isn't 2% of all the coal mines going up that we need to get rid of. i will let you respond. guest: it's not 2%, is less than 1%. that doesn't include all the embedded carbon in the ev. i'm not saying we don't need to do things to address carbon emissions and carbon sequestration but i'm saying there is much better ways to do that. i've got a graduate degree in forestry. on the only forester in congress and i the largest most economic by far best way to reduce carbon emissions is to have healtbeing from out west, you understand what happens when you get warmer temperatures in an overgrown forest. they burn and spew carbon into the atmosphere. forests are the best tool we have two take carbon out of the

atmosphere and store it. we should be utilizing that tool and investing in natural climate solutions and get away from these boondoggle ideas that everybody should be driving in ev. host: it was reported recently that your committee is working on legislation to wildlife and habitats. can you give us an excellent nation? guest: it's called the american wildlife habitat conservation act and its creating habitats for endangered species and all the other species. we talked about habitat, the best thing we can do whenbout wildlife, we can create good habitats for them. this would send federal money to the states for the state agencies understand wildlife nt better than the federal agencies to do the management and their state. i think this could be a game changer for creating healthy habitat which is also beneficial not just for wildlife but also the air and water quality.

in illinois, republican line. caller: good morning. good morning, representative. we need more time -- more common sense in this country and you get a bill going where you can step pending sales of land to china or any company from china. you can buy back all the land they already bought and give them whatever fair market value get the land back from china. we need more common sense in this country. if you guys can stick together and vote to block this until trump is reelected and passed some stuff you've got to get the debris off the ground and the forests to eliminate how much burn it takes to -- to affect the west coast. guest: most of these issues can be solved with a good dose of common sense. it seems to be very scarce here in washington,when it comes to forest management, i say we have loved

their trees to death and we are not using the signs we have to do controlled burns and keep our forests healthy. as far as foreign ownership of ag land, we have pushed bills like that in the house. we've had votes on those that have passed. it gets bipartisan support. we were made aware earlier this year that the new york stock exchange along with thesec was pushing a program to allow something called the natural asset company to be sold on the stock which would allow foreign investors to come in and put money into a fund where they could go out and work in cahoots with the biden administration. they would buy a long-term contract -- conservation on public land. this would be a very dangerous tool that could allow china and russia and saudi arabia or whoever to invest in u.s. company they can go out and

control all the use on federal land. we are not even talking about private land so we've got to be on guard against all of these door and having undue influence on u.s. land use. host: democrats line. caller: yes, i always have to really laugh. guys have all the information you need about oil production and the cost of oil for american citizens. you could reduce the cost of oil two ways. you can produce more or you can reduce demand. both of them have the same effect. if you reduce demand, you eliminate the effects of carbon. when you reduce demand, you also drop the price. the price of oil is going to be a world price.

it doesn't matter how much we produce here. ce the saudi's control the price of oil worldwide. if they want it higher, they will get it higher by reducing theiply on the world market. . we know that talking about producing more here to save the price for american citizens is a non-issue. the good thing about demand, once you reduce demand, it's reduced. it's the same as reducing more. -- is producing more. everything you do to reduce demand by reducing electric cars, having cars that use less gas, all of those things reduce demand and some of them reduce it permanently. host: thank you for the call. guest: good job there explaining supply and demand and price. you did mention that oil was a global commodity.

the problem is that the demand for oil is going like this. regardless of what we do united states demand is going like this. it has done that since we've learned how to use oil. other countries are using more and more oil all the time. every amount we produce in the united states goes into that supply and gives opec, countries like saudi arabia influence over the global supply price. i'm not saying we shouldn't try to reduce the demand but i am saying we should be producing ]n the supply because you do it cleaner and safer than anyplace else in the world. host: representative, i want to to you about another topic. the republican committee put out is 2025 budget recommendation on changing social security. can you talk a little bit about what the republican study committee is proposing? guest:u look at social security, it's on the path to

insolvency which means in a few years, the only money that will be paid out of social security will be with paid in. it could be as much is a 20-30% decrease in payouts. we've known for decades that social security was broken. we are moving towards this influx point where the social security fund will be empty and the only money coming in is what is paid out. that is one solution on how those dollars out further. we need to increase the retirement age. we will have to start talking about solutions because it's coming upon us quickly. i know the washington, d.c. solution we will just borrow that from our kids and increase the debt even more than its increase now. that's not a real solution. host: if they were put into place, who would it impact in the if age increases were put into place? guest: we looked at it several

years ago and if it had been put in place five years ago, nobody drawing social security would have been affected. nobody withiears of retirement would have been affected. solutions like this should have been taken up 20 or 30 years ago. i'm not saying this is the ace in the hole but it is such a toxic topic that congress needs to shy away from talking about it. the fact that it's headed toward insolvency has not changed. it will probably end up like most things in washington, d.c. and fixed at the last minute without a lot of pre-talk. host: you'veow medicare, social security only for double caretianrestricted -- prescription drug costs for families. what you think of that assessment? guest: it sounds just like joe biden policies.

i would ask what his plan is because you have not putting anything in place that helps our ghter future for our children. host: let's hear from ohio, hello? caller: i'm here. host: go ahead. caller: i like to make a comment about keeping the government running. the simple solution is they would basically just put that up for a vote and keep the government open and vote yes. without adding the other bills to it. it's a real simple thing. there is a lot of school systems out there that would like to be able to say yes, we will keep the school running. that's my point. if they want to pass that bill, just keep it simple. keep it running. guest: that's exactly what the

continuing resolution to the end of the year would do is it would keep it simple and running. then we can hopefully go back and work on the 2025 appropriations which we should be already along the process of getting that done. the laws that congress has passed says we should have a budget done by april 15 and the appropriations bill done by june 30. we are nowhere close to that. host: this call is from samuel in wisconsin, independent line. caller: good morning, gentlemen. you touched base on what should be done rather than a continuing resolution. it's much easier to loot the treasury on the continuing resolutions. thank you for theeforest and photosynthesis. thank you. guest: teddy roosevelt called our forests the paradise of the earth and its all about photosynthesis. they breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide.

this chair at one time was 50% atmospheric carbon dioxide. for the planet. they create clean here, clean water and good wildlife habitat and they give us great places to recreate and we should be taking care of thed us with. host: representative bruce westerman, serves the fourth district of arkansas, the naturathank you especially on a friday for giving us your time. coming up, we will get another perspective on several of these topics from democratic representative north carolina kathy manning. ♪ >> today, what c-span's 2024 campaign trail, a weekly round of c-span's campaign coverage providing a one-step shop to discover what candidates across the country are saying to voters. along with first-hand accounts from political reporters fundraising dating campaign is.

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>> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us now is representative kathy manning who serves the six district of north carolina member of the foreign affairs committee. k you for giving guest: guest: us your time. my pleasure. host: can you give us your assessment of the bill that -- for the series of bills that are expected to be voted on guest: i hope they pass because it's critically important for us to keep the government open. i'm disappointed with many of ídthe cuts particularly the cuts to the homeland security grants. we do have some funding in there for critically important things for a head start for child care, we were able to keep out all of the poison pill culture war issues. we are looking forward to passing the bill, it's critically important to keep the government open.

host: can you elaborate on the cuts of the homeland security grants? guest: there was a request to actually double homeland security grants in light of the rising anti-semitism and also islamophobia in this country. the homeland security grants help pardon the organizations most at risk. it increased the o homeland security grant, this cuts the grant down to about $200 million, maybe more than that. it's a cut that in my estimation is unfortunate. host: out of the israel-hamas work we've seen concerns about acts of and taste summits is an across the united states. frequency of those acts today? guest: prior to october 7, we knew anti-semitism was since october 7, there has been

more than a 300% increase in antisemitism across this country. we a harassment, intimidation and physical violence, attacks on synagogues and jewish institutions. we've never seen this at this rate intercountry and it's a cause for real alarm. what starts with antisemitism nti-jewish state never stops there. it spreads to discrimination hate against other minority groups. it eats at the fundamentals of our democracy. host: it's reported that amongst the text of the bill's about to be passed, there is afunding to the united nations the work agency which is the key factor in those that support gaza.at? guest: i think it's critically important we get more humanitarian aid to the innocent palestinians in gaza who are really suffering because of the disaster that hamas brought on with its attack on israel on october 7 and also by embedding themselves among civilians in

hospitals, apartment buildings. hamas hides underground but certainly doesn't provide any protection for the innocent palestinians who voted for them to oversee their government so many years ago. on the other hand, we know u thatnra does not that its workers to see if they are members of hamas or somehow connected with hamas. we note there were at least 12 unra workers who demonstrated ties with hamas. we hadr officials and tried to figure out why they won't that there more than 13,000 workers to see if they are connected to hamaunra only uses the u.n. sanctions list for vetting. the u.n. does not designate hamas as a foreign terrorist organization which is a real problem. host: if you want to call (202) 748-8000 for democrats

(202) 748-8001 for republicans an independents (202) 748-8002. you can also text us your thoughts at (202) 748-8003. representative manning is a member of the foreign affairs committee. what you think about the call by the biden administration to have a team from israel come to talk about efforts in rough? guest: i think it's a good idea. we have to keep in mind that the u.s. and israel agree on the end goal. the end goal is to dismantle the hamas military ability so hamas never again can do to israel what it did on october 7. the other goal we have is to make sure the innocent palestinians get the humanitarian aid that they need. the primary goal i should mention first was get the hostages back and we have to remember there are americans among those hostages. what we disagree on right now is that tactics to use to achieve

those goals. i think we agree on the goals the discussion i assume that will take place next week will be over tactics to achieving ose goals. host: you probably heard critics say the biden administration is changing its tune when it come to support of israel because of the recent request. president biden showed from -- right after october 7 his entire career, he has stood side-by-side with the country of israel. i think the american people stand with the country of israel. we have shared democratic values , we have shared military exercises, shared intelligence. israel is a startup nation that has prior to october 7 continues to have a thriving economy extraordinary innovation that comes out of that cntry that helps the world. we know that we have always stood side-by-side with israel.

president biden is increasingly concerned about the impact on innocent palestinians. he understands that this is being brought on byhe does expect the israelis to do more. i think the discussion they will have next week will be important to discussing what they can do to achieve the goal of defeating hamas and making sure they cannot do what the again rescuing the hostages which is a primary concern and of course getting the humanitarian aid in. host for the package of bills being signed today, what's included when it comes to israeli security? guest: that's the problem, we are waiting for the speaker of the house to put that senate bill on the house floor. every hearing i he expressed their deep concern about what's happening in china, what's happening with russia, what's happening with iran. by failing to put that bill floor that would have funding for ukraine, funding for

israel, humanitarian aid and funding fore not putting words to action. we need the speaker to bring that bill to the floor. we know it will pass once he breaks it to the floor but we needght. host: our guest with us until the house comes in, let's hear from susan in florida, line for representative kathy manning good morning. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i just have a comment, possibly a question regarding this concern about the cuts to the homeland security budget. antisemitism is a huge issue in the united states but more violence against people of color, arise in islamophobia. i'm all of those issues, not just issues that pertain to one segment of society. i'm wondering howhis will

impact those issues in america. in addition, i appreciate all of the talk and concern about our allies and giving them money for their defense. our tax dollars should really be spent fixing the issues here in the u.s. in addition, speaking about social security, i have been working on paying taxes for over 45 years of my life. it is very concerningbe able to retire in 10 years. social security, retirement age, ant it to increase. we cannot work until the end of our lives, it's unfair. host: thank you. guest: i'm going to comment on the homeland security grant issue. i agree with you. we are concerned about hate crimes against all minority groups in the homeland security

grants are available to any group that is a target of potential violence. it's not just for jewish communities or institutions and not for islamic amenities only. that's why the homeland security grant program is so important. with regard to social security i agree that is why the democrats do not want to cut social security. we've said it over and over because we want hard-working people like you and like everybody else across the country to be able to depend on the social security benefits they have earned by paying into the system year after year. the democrats are clear in this position. former president trump made it clear the other day that he's willing to cut social security. he's willing to raise the age for social security. he is not interested in maintaining the social security system and strengthening at so depend on the benefits they have earned during many years of hard work. host: arthur in michigan

independent line. caller: yes, thank you. i will try to be quick. first of all i believe a l believe that mr. netanyahu is the one to blame for this entire thing. first of all, hectually has been really pushing for the settlements in palestinian land and building homes for israelis. he is an ultraconservative that does not negotiate. he is the one who actually negotiated changing the embassy from the capital israel to jerusalem. he knew that this issue about the attack because this war. he knew ahead of time this was planned. the aid that we are planning to

send to his real to help them identify more weapons, that will be used to restore the destruction that has been caused by -- caused in gaza. the truth is that for some reon anddemocrats are sympathetic to this issue is we are not opening our eyes. netanyisahu corrupt, he cannot negotiate and he is not respecting the united states actually giving them all this eight. host: thank you ennis reported that there is $4 billion for defense eight in this package. guest: let me start with your comments about who is responsible for everythingst. i think it's important to make sure that the palestinians and hamas also have agency and have played a role in what we are all living through right now, this

horrific war in gaza. hamas has antheir intention is to destroy the state of israel and to make sure there are no jews that we have to make sure we remember what happened on october 7. that was an invasion of israel with such savagery that israelis are still traumatized by what is going on. with regard to the settlements, the united states had taken action in sanctioning several of the most egregious violent settlers. i think that is appropriate. with regard to prime minister netanyahu, as you know, prior to this war israelis were marching in the streets week after week to protest the policies of their prime minister. end by saying that israel is of vibrant, thriving democracy.

not only will he have the vote on who they choose as their next leader but we know from statements that have been made and if we look at what happened prior to this event in israel, there will be a thorough investigation of what led to this conflict and what led to the total failure of the defense forces around gaza and the slow response to what happened on october 7. investigation and i believe there will be accountability. host: representative, you probably heard speaker johnson said he intends to invite the prime minister of israel to speak before congress. what you think of that? guest: the most important thing to remember is support of israel has always been bipartisan. it' critical that the support of israel remains bipartisan and does not become a political wedge issue. if the invitation is made on a joint basis between the house and the senate, between the

leaders of the house in the senate, then let the prime minister speak. host: i think senator schumer said he is in support of that so do you think your democratic colleagues will come outen i've already gotten request for constituents to get tickets for a seat. host: democrats line, hi. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i would like toesentative manning over the last sentence when she said israel is a thriving democracy. i disagree with your distinction. they occupy millions of people for the last 50 years, not only militarily occupied but depriving them of basic living

and political rights. before the land gram and, just before the land grabbing, the u.s. sanctions on settlers are tiny and a very welcome. if israel is a democracy why ent people not in israeli prisons? why is it up to america to say you cannot do what you are doing ? how come israel does not stop it's people who are stealing palestinian land daily? maybe representative is not aware these people are already [indiscernible] getting money from a lot of organizations which support them. i heard you said, i'm sorry, i'm walking so i'm out of breath. you said we agree with our two

main goals with israel and that's to defeat hamas and restore the peace on the land for the humanitarian aid. i have to ask -- you may very well be -- and that they are trying to kill all the jews. not israelis if i remember. i apologize, you set a lot for our guest and we will let her respond. guest: let me say that i have been and continue to be a supporter of a two state solution. i believe that the ultimate goal in the region should be to have two states for two people, a safe and secure jewish state living side-by-sidea peaceful state for the palestinian people. one of the problems we have seen over many years of attempts to

resolve this conflict is an unwillingness of palestinian leaders to reach, come to agreement. there has been offer aft create a state of palestinian state with the acknowledgment that israel has the right to exist in safety and security. i believe a two state solution is the long-term goawith regard to the state of israel itself, it is a democracy that has a court system thsavailable to everyone who lives in the state of israel to jews arabs, bedouins. it has a knesset that has muslims and jews. it has great diversity. israel has freedom of the press freedom of speech. they have a vibrant debate among

israeli citizens. it is not reas i said at the beginning, you put a lot on the table but the bottom line wouldd to be moving forward to a two state solution but there has to be leadership on the palestinian side that is willing to acknowledge that israel has the right to continue to exist as a jewish democratic state. eventually, we can reach that goal of two peaceful states for two people. host: mike in new york, republican line. caller: good morning. i don't understand how it works. people keep slamming israel and calling them names. at the same time, they are supporting ukraine as long as it takes. israel is fighting a terrorist organization. it could be the worst attack on they have no legitimacy, no argument to make nothing. they are not there to occupy

gaza, they want to make a more prosperous. in ukraine, imaginative donald trump called for a new election in ukraine like schumer did in israel. imaginative trump called for a cease-fire. vladimir putin has a legitimate government and has concerns on like, awesome. [indiscernible] care about any corruption so that goes on there. basically, israel wants hamas a chance to reestablish ver. they are going for new elections in israel because bibi netanyahu is a conservative. he is asking why you make it a political issue. he is the one, he said up on the floor and attacked bib because easing in servitude.

ithen he asked for bipartisanship. host: to summarize what the caller was saying, senator schumer's comments about israeli elections, what did you think of those comments? caller: i will go deeper into what the speaker said. in my opening remarks, i said whole conflict was caused because a terrorist group hamas invaded israel, slaughtered civilians and then hides itself among civilians in i agree with the caller that hamas bears responsibility for everything that has happened both in israel on october 7 and what's happened to the innocent palestinians in gaza. with regard to ukraine ukraine is a democratic ally. i am doing everything i can to urge the speaker to get that funding bill on the because ukraine is literally running out of ammunition. vladimir putin will not stop with ukraine. he will march forward to our

nato allies if we don't helpukraine continue its fight against this brutal dictator. with regard to israel and the prime minister and their elections, israel is a thriving democracy. it will hold elections and elect the leaders they choose. there is no doubt that israel is a democracy and they will have an investigation on what led to the breakdown of the defense of israel on october 7. host: to what you agreed you think senator schumer's comments were appropriate? i agree with everything he said up to minute 24 of his speech. after that, i would say that the israelis have the right to choose when they have their elections and to choose who they elect for their next president corporate minister. host: washington, d.c., independent line. jump in with your question or comment. caller: congresswoman, the issue

at hand right now is a humanitarian disaster. a million people are facing starvation. i understand what happened on october 7 and i condemn it but that was 1200 people that died a horrible way. now we are looking at over 30,000 people that have died and they died mainly because ammu sent by the united states government. israel is denying humanitarian aid. one million are facing the worst starvation crisis since what happened in africa. the israeli government is dire responsible for the death of over 30,000 people. the israeli government will be facing war crimes if those people start. what can we do to get that humanitarian age? we have to put pressure on the israeli government. we have to deny them the

ammunition unless they release thatan hum when issue you haven't mentioned is the hostages. we have american citizens who are being held hostage. i wantd everyone that the biggest impediment we have to moving forward now is that hamas refuses to release the hostages. they have not allowed the red cross into visit with the hostages and to present proof to the families. does not forget about the hostages. you and i will have to agree to disagree on who is responsible for the deaths in gaza. i continue to believe that hamas in their attack on october 7 a operations under hospitals and apartment buildings and refusingto the civilians to move to safety without the hamas fighters moving with them, i think they bear a heavy responsibility. i will agree with you that the

devastation in gaza is unacceptable. the inability of the relief groups to get food to the people , the innocent palestinians in gaza is terrible. a loss of life of any human life is devastating. i support the administration's attempts to get more aid into hamas, sorry, get more humanitarian aid intians. we've seen some air drops, we've seen the attempt to build a pier but pressure on the israeli is having an impact. the israelis just yesterday let eight come int come in through the northern border to get more aid into the northern part of gaza which is so difficult towe agree that we need to get more humanitarian aid into the

and is in palestinian people who are suffering because. of their brutal hamas leaders host: we have about 30 seconds you announced you will not run for another term, what led to that decision? guest: unfortunately, the republican led general assembly in north carolina has drawn the most egregiously imagine. they destroyed my district making it impossible for me to win. they divided my district in my city of greensboro into three different pieces. each piece of greensboro has been attached to a far-flung county, rural counties that bear no common interest with the urban areas in greensboro making the seat totally unwinnable for a democrat. sadly, i will not be able to continue to represent my district. the worst thing of all of this is i believe i represent the values of my district. i have brought in more community project funding for my district than any congressperson anybody

can remember.i believe i worked really hard to support and represent my constituents and i regret that the state legislature has made it impossible for