of income of stability if we pull back dramatically in that fashion on social security and medicare? that is my concern. senator braun: what about the crowding out effect. more and more interest year after year even to do that. do you think we'll ever get to a point where i know in the president's budget that's all assuming that stuff gets done that was set in place back with some of the which you probably disagree with. isn't there a point where i think it's called the modern monetary theory. where deficits and cumulative debt just don't make any difference anymore. do you believe that? director young: senator, i need to make sure debt and deficits as a percentage of g.d.p. make our debt unsustainable. i don't think there are measures. we need to make sure real net interest stays well below as a

share of g.d.p.2%. our deficits in the long run are about 4.5% of g.d.p. most -- >> we'll leave this to keep our commitment to gavel to gavel of congress. the u.s. house is coming in to begin debate on two bills. one would office space with the goal of requiring federal workers to return to the office. the other bill condemns biden administration immigration policy. you're watching live coverage on c-span.

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and forever. amen. the speakeproempore: the chair has examined the journal of theast day's proceedings and announces to the house her approval thereof. pursuant to clause 1 of rule 1 the journal stands approved. the plek the plek of allegiance -- pledge of allegiance will be led by the gentleman from massachusetts mr. mcgovern. mr. mcgovern: i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will receive a message. the messenger: madam speaker, a message from the president of the united states. the secretary: mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: madam secretary. the secretary: i am directed by the president of the united states to deliver to the house of representatives a message in writing. the speaker proll now entertain up to

15 requests for one-minute speeches on each side of the aisle. for what purpose does the gentleman frition? mr. thompson: madam speaker, request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized. mr. thompson: thank you, madam speaker. recognize the keystone central school district students for their accomplishments earlier this year. this group young students demonstrated exceptional talent during the skills u.s.a. district competition which was held at thecollege of tech technology on january 26 -- technology on january 26. i'm proud of the 25 students who achieved first place them a spot in the next round in hershey, pennsylvania. this next round will take place in early april.the skills u.s.a. program is designed to educate students ranging from middle school to college in order to prepare them for trade, technical and skilled service jobs. thanks to programs like these our nation will have a very successful future work force.

congratulations again to all the students for their hard work and dedication to learning. good luck in the next round. thank you, madamak spe and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized for one minute. mr. mcgovern: consent to address the house for one-minute, -- for one minute, revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so moved. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, we're in the middle ofd adult care food program week. and i want to do my part to spread the word about this incredibly successful program. the cacfp provides $is.8 billion -- 1.8 billion healthy meals and snacks to over 4.7 million children and adults every year in centers, daycares, emergency shelters after school and summer meal programs, and adult day centers. the program operates under a should go hungry in the united states of america. especially the most vulnerable. it also helps increase the quality and affordability of particularly in low-income communities.

and we know that good nutrition starting from an early age doesn't just fight disease, but it lessens the burden on our country's health care system. in short, it saves a boat load of money. thefp week -- this cacfp week i want to recognize all care givers who provide critical nutrition and care through this important program. together we can end hunger now. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from south carolina seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute, revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. wilson: thank you, mr. speaker. biden state of the union speech failed to recognize the 13 service members murdered at abbey gate with his decision to surrender in afghanistan. biden did not initially in his ranting and raving acknowledge his decision of open borders for murderers, which directly led to the bludgeoning murder of laken riley. sadly, biden ignored the killing six weeks ago of georgia army

reservists, with 40 more wounded by puppets of iran, due to his decision to not effectively respond to over 150 prior attacks by iran on americans. as a reservist myself with four sons who have served overseas, i'm particularly disappointed. we need donald trump for peace through strength. in conclusion, god bless our troops who successfully protected america for 20 years as the global war on terrorism moves from the afghanistan safe haven to america. we do not need new border laws we need to enforce existing laws. biden's shameful open borders for dictators means more vital attacks across america are imminent as the f.b.i. warned again yesterday. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from illinois seek recognition? without objection, the gentlelady one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in representation of 12 critical community health centers inin

community centers provide essential preventive care to nearly 700,000 members of my district. ms. ramirez: of whom 50% of income is below the poverty line. they support 1,500 jobs and 250 -- $250 million in economic the region. the clinics provide training for future health care providers shaping mission-driven physicians, nurses dentists and behavioral health providers who often remain after graduating and continuing to serve the community. nonetheless, congressional appropriation delays in funding challenges these critical health services. so as we continue the appropriation process, we must prioritize the well-being of the families we represent and i call on my colleagues to recommit to passing the lhhs budget and fully funding community health centers and their education programs. thank you, mr. speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from oklahoma seek recognition? without objection, the

gentlelady from oklahoma is recognized for one minute. mrs. bice: on february 11, oklahoma city lost a wonderful public servant. kathy cummings was one of the most positive and friendly women you would ever meet. and although our political leanings were quite different she always greeted me with a hug and a smile when we would see each other. kathy served as the mayor of the village, as well as the city council woman and championed causes she feltommunity. but she may be best known as the owner of vito's restaurant, a popular italian restaurant that recreated many of the recipes kathy learned from her upbringing in a very traditional italian family. family was the most important thing to kathy and i know her husband, sean, daughters, rose marie, danielle, angelina and sons, gabriel and was and the legacy she leaves behind. eternal -- i'm sorry. eternal rest grant unto her, o lord, and let perpetual light shine upon her. may the souls of the faithfully

departed and all of the souls through mercy of god rest in peace. amen. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from kentucky seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. mcgarvey: mr. speaker, i rise today because on march 1, a four-car crash on the clark memorial bridge left a semitruck dangling dangerously over the ohio river with the driver still inside. police officers, coast guard members and firefighters immediately rushed in to action to save the driver from plummeting some 100 feet into the river below. no firefighter acts alone. the train -- they train as a team, they work as a team, and it took all of rescue company two working together to save this semi driver. but ultimately it was firefighter bryce kardon who was the fearless

lowered off the bridge from the back of a firetruck to perform the daring rescue that brought the truck driver back to safety. bryce kardon is a louisvillean through and through. he went to butler high school and still lives in louisville with his wife and their 17-month-old daughter. and that truck driver is alive today because of bryce's selfless actions. to bryce and your brothe department we thank you for your bravery and dedicated service. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection,entleman from tennessee is recognized for one minute. mr. rose: mr. speaker, tiktok, the chinese company who has billions of bits of become a clear and present danger to its american

users and to the united states itself. with 170 million users in the u.s. including two out of every three american teenagers, we cannot turn a blind eye to thenormous risk that this app poses. that's why i rise in support of the protecting americans from foreign act. this bipartisan bill, which passed last week unanimously out of committee, aims to prevent foreign adversaries from targeting, controlling surveilling, manipulating the american people online. it would specifically apply to apps controlled by china, iran, north korea or russia. let me be clear. this bill does not ban tiktok. it simply requires tiktok itself from control by the chinese communist government. and in doing so prioritizes t safety and security of our nation. thank you, mr. speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from missouri seek recognition?

>> i ask unanimousse address the house for one minute, revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from missouri is recognized for one>> thank you, mr. speaker. today i rise in support of our resolution celebrating the 175th anniversary of laclede county and the city of lebanon in the fourth congressional district of the great state of missouri. mr. alford: on february 24, 1849 the foundations of the county and lebanon were laid marking the beginning of a journey that would see these communities grow develop and contribute significantly to the fabric of missouri. with more than residents and 14,000. these are vibrant communities that embody the spirit of missouri and america'sd after pierre laclede, it symbolizes the rich heritage and community spifort. it's also a -- spirit. it's also a great place if you ever want to go trout fishing. it is an honor to recognize the county and lebanon and the people who these areas into strong thriving communities and i urge

my colleagues to support this resolution. with that, mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from arizona seek recognition? without objection, the gentlelady from arizona is recognized for one minute. mrs. lesko: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today t accomplished and dedicated leader who has served arizona greatly. the speaker of the arizona house, ben toma. during his tenure in public service, speaker toma has achieved many great things for arizona. heanced universal school choice, a ballot measure to require voter i.d., a border security ballot measure to require e-verify, and instituted the largest tax cut in arizona history. he also signed on to an amicus brief to support the state of texas as they fight in court for their right to defend their

state from invasion. speaker toma's career is a testament to his dedication to arizona, his legacy of leadership will last for come. and i yield back. .. .. .. the speaker pro tempore: chair lays before the house a message. the clerk: section 202-d of the national emergencies act 15 united states code 1622d provides for the automatic termination of a national emergency unless within 90 date of its declaration, the president publishes in the federal register and transmits to congress a notice stating that the emergency is to continue in effect beyond the anniversary date. in accordance with this provision i have sent to the federal register for publication the os stating that

the national emergency with respect to iran that was declared on march 15, 1995, is to continue in effect beyond 15, 2024. the actions and poll sthoifs government of iran continue to pose an unusualeat to the national security, foreign policy and economy of the united states. therefore i have determined that it is neces the national emergency declared in executive order 12957 with respect to iran and to maintain in force comprehensive sanctions against iran to respond to this threat. signed joseph r. biden jr. the whituse, march 12, 2024. referred the speaker pro tempore: referred to the committee on foreign affairs and ordered printed. for what purpose does the gentleman from kentucky seek recognition? >> by direction of the committee on rules i call up house resolution 1071 and ask for its immediate consideration.

the speaker pro tempore: the clerk rill are -- will report the resolution.endar number 66, house resolution 1071. resolved, that at any time after adoption of this resolution the speaker may, pursuant to clause 2-b of rule 18, declare the house resolved into the committee of the whole house on the state of the union for consideration of the bill, h.r. 6276, to direct the administrator of general services and the director of the office of management and budget to identify the utilization rate of certain public buildings and federally-leased space, and for other purposes. the first reading of the bill shall be dispensed with. all points of order against consideration of the bill are waived. general debate shall be confined to the bill and shall not exceed one hour equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on transportation andective designees. after general debate the bill shall be considered for amendment under the five-minute rule.

the amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the committee on transportation and infrastructure now printed in the bill shall be considered as adopted inhe house committee of the whole. the bill, as amended, shall be considered as read. all points of order against provisions in the bill, as no further amendment to the bill, as amended, shall be in order except those printed in the report of the committee on rules accompanying this resolution. be offered only in the order printed in the report, may be offered only by a member designated in the report, shall be considered as read, shall be debatable for the time specified in the report equally divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent, shall not be subject to amendment, and shall not be subject to a demand for division of the question in the house or in the committee of the whole. further amendments are waived. at the conclusion of consideration of the bill for amendment the committee shall rise and report the bill, as amended, to the house with such further amendments as may have been adopted.

the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill, as amended, and on any further amendment thereto to final passage without intervening motion except one motion to recommit. section 2. upon adoption of this resolution it shall be in order without intervention of any point of order to consider in the house the resolution, h. res. 1065 denouncing the biden administration's immigration policies. the resolution shall be considered as read. the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the resolution and preamble to adoption without intervening the question except one hour of debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the the judiciary or their respective designees. the speaker procky is recognized for one hour. >> mr. speaker, for the purpose of debate only, i yield the

customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from massachusetts mr. mcgovern, pending which i yield myself such time as i may consume.ng consideration of this resolution all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only. i ask unanimous consent that all members have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. massie: vote of 9-3 a rule providing for consideration of h.r. 6276, the utilizing space efficiency and improving technologies act of 2023, and house resolution 1065, denouncing the biden administration's immigration policies. the rule provides for 6276, the utilizing space efficiently and improving technologies act of 2023 under a structured ru consideration of house resolution 1065, denouncing the biden administration's imgrigs policies under a closed rule. the rule provides that upon adoption of the resolution it

shall be in order, without intervention, of any point of order to lution 1065. finally the rule provides one hour of general debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on the judiciary or their respective designees. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman from kentucky for yielding me the customary half-hour and i yield myself such time as i may consume. mr. speaker another week, another round of trivial that's all this republican majority can do. one pointless messaging bill after another that will never, ever become law. in fact, we haven't passed a single bill out of the rules committee that's become law in nine months. nine months. first let's talk about h.r. 6276, a bill that's supposed to

help a measure -- help measure building utilization. this bill seems to do with the republican belief that working from home is always bad, no matter wha don't get me wrong, i hate teams meetings, i hate zoom calls as much as everyone else. but can republicans please acknowledge that it's 2024 and people can work from home? basically this pill says that if a federal employee works from home one day a week, they are no longer counted as being, quote in the office. ignore the four days a week that they're in the office, if they work fromre not in the office. oh, and by the way, we're going to get rid of their desk because they work from home once. i mean come on. it's just a silly solution. this bill fails to capture even the fundamental nature of some of our most vital jobs in our federal work force. for example, if you are a food inspector who spends four days a week ensuring that our food supply is safe and would not count them for

occupancy. which could eventually lead to eliminating their office space. or if youre a federal firefighter, protecting the lives and property of countless american week after week after week, but not sitting at a desk for 40 hour would say nope, you won't be counted you won't need to have a desk. if we want our federal work force to be the best in the world we need to compete. we need to give people the flexibility to work from home just like other employees -- just like other employers do in the private sector. something that this bill discourages. for those reasons, i believe it's a bad bill and i'll be voting no. next, and get this, next we have h.res. 1065. wh actual resolution here, it calls on -- it calls on the president to detain and remove specific individuals from the united states. i have news for you, mr. speaker.

republicans are in charge of this body. barely in charge but in nonetheless. they don't have to call on the president to do anything. this isn't a debate club, for god's sake. pass a bill and change the damn policy if you don't like it, mr. speaker. oh, wait republicans don't want to do anything about immigration or the border. they just want to complain and talk about their feelings. let me talk to my friends like i'm talking to one of the sixth grade classes from my district that comes down and tours washington every year. if you want a bill to become a a bill. there's a difference between a bill which starts with the brevuation h.r. and a resolution which starts with the brevuation h.res. i'll spell it out for you h-period-r-e-s-period.

some thinks it stands for house resolution -- h.r. stands for house resolution it stands for house of representatives. r. hez stands for house resolution. the constitution gives cate. and we do that by passing bills. bills can change policy. bills can change taxes. fund programs. regulate interstate commerce. hell bills can even force president of the yates to do something. they go to the senate and the senate can pass it and send it to the president. the president can either veto us, or sign it into law. that's how a bill becomes a law. my repubn friends might have forgotten this so it's help to feel remind them. this resolution on the border cannot become law. because it is not a bill. it's a resolution. house resolution 1065. see, it's right here. and if the bill -- if this

resolution passes the house it will go nowhere. it will just be put on a website and sent out as a press release. this resolution just tells you feel about the border. mr. speaker, it's a way for republicans to talk about their feelings. and i know republicans have a feelings on the border. now dems care about the border too. but the difference is we actually want to do something about it. now don't get me wrong. there's a time and place for nonbinding resolutions but this isn't it. we're not going to reform our broken immigration system with a nonbinding resolution. we are just not. and we had a bipartisan deal on border security that republicans initially supported until donald trump called and then they changed their minds. and they killed it. republicans killed a bipartisan border security deal.

a bill that was negotiated by the second most conservativepublican in the united states senate. they killed it. and so what did they bring up instead in not a bill. but a resolution. a meaningless resolution. this resolution, h.res. 1065. which changes no law. which will not go to the senate. which is literally a press release talking about their feelings. here's the kicker. this bill, h.res. 1065, it's almost identical to a similar resolution that we dealt with only three months ago. so not only does it do nothing but it's aey're so bad at legislating that they're even bad at not legislating. this is all they have to offe speaker. half-baked, empty resolutions that don't address any of the fundamental concerns at our southern border. oh, sure, they like they care about

border security on right-wing tv so that trump and republican candidates can use it as a campaign slogan in november. they're really good at that. they go on fox news and say, secure the border. secure the border. but then they kill bills that trhing about the border. they kill the bipartisan border security bill that came out of the united states senate. a bill that would have provided more funding so we could have more people at the border patrolling our border. a bill that would provide more money for judges to accelerate consideration of asylum claims. a bill by the way, that was supported by the border patrol union that is at the border. now the only thing they say they will agree to is their grossly partisan h.r. 2. seemingly ignoring the fact that h.r. 2 lost in the senate already, it failed bigly, only got 32 votes. in fact the gentleman across the aisle from kentucky even voted against h.r. 2.

but even if it were to pass the senate president biden would never sign it into law because it's a crappy bill. i got a little whiplash, mr. speaker, because on one hand i hear from my republican friends that we -- h.r2 or nothing. h.r. 2 or nothing. and then we had a gentleman on the republican side come and do one-minutes and say we don't need any legislation at all to do anything. we don't have to pass anything. . any way you square it republicans own the border crisis. democrats have given them every opportunity to work together and we have been turned down by a republican partyn't want to solve problems or govern. so guess what. they own the border. they own the fentanyl crisis. they own all of it. this is their issue. they continue to pass meaningless resolutions like this which do nothing. they continue to scream and yell in committees and on the house floor, they continue to use victims of crimes as props.

but when push comes to shove, they don't do a damn thing. the vote against more -- they vote against more funding for border security. they reject serious proposals for border security. they don't want to solve this want a crisis because they think it helps them in floaive -- november. what a rot p cynical, -- rotten cynical awful way to treat the people of this country. what a terrible way to govern. this isn't serious legislation. it is a press release. it's embarrassing. house republicans have no new ideas so they're just going to keep passing the same meaningless resolution every week until they lose in maybe then they'll realize that this is a bad strategy, that it's a bad idea to treat the american people like they're idiots. because the american people are smart, mr. speaker. they see what republicans are doing. obstructing, obstructing obstructing and then blaming democrats for the obstruction that they created. and passing silly, nonbinding resolutions that do nothing

instead of actually working with us to get stuff done. democrats actually want to get something done on the border. we want to stop the fentanyl from coming into our country. we want to fix the broken immigration system and republicans own this issue now because they rejected a bipartisan deal and they refused to work together they refused to put people over politics and work with us to address our problems at the border. let me just conclude, mr. reminding my friends on the other side of the aisle, and i would say this to a sixth grade class if they came to visit, to divided government. we have a, again, a house of representatives, barely controlled by republicans. a united states senate barely controlled and a democrat in the us who -- in the white house. this notion of my way or the highway for either side is a nonstarter. if you want to get something done, you got to work together. i'd whriek that think you don't -- i'd like to think you don't have to agree on ever on something

and we ought to be able to agree on something like more support for border security along both our southern and our northern border. we ought to be able to agree that we ought to have more judges to evaluate asylum claims so people aren't here for months and months and months or years that we can resolve these claims efficiently and effectively in a matter of weeks. you know, and we ought to also rather than doing nonbinding resolutions, be addressing the situation in ukraine. ukraine is out of -- they're out of equipment. i mean, i don't know why my friends on the other side of the aisle seem so dedicated to giving putin a victory. but ukraine is running out of time. why haven't you scheduled a vote on a bill to provide ukraine the military assistance that they need so that they russians? so they can stop putin?

they're out of time. they're out of time.ne falls, my friends own that too. with that, mr. speaker i reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts reserves. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. >> mr. speaker, the first step in solving a problem is to acknowledge that it exists. the other side of the aisle's having a problem with that. mr. massie: because that's what this resolution does. it describes the problem. the second part of solving a problem is to look at what the source of the problem is. that's what this resolution does. the other side of the aisle is having a problem with that. in fact, t they opened the debate by simply complaining that this is a house resolution and not a house bill. but this is a house resolution full of facts. inconvenient facts to this administration. this administration, since the beginning, has passed 94 executive orders that have --

repealing border security measures that were in place. and that's attracted 9.3 million illegal immigrants to our borders. this is a problem that exists, the other side of the aisle needs to quit denyin and they need to quit trying to change the topic to ukraine, the topic today is these two bills. first am them is the resolution that draws attention to the problem at the border and lists specifically the things that t fix it. with that, i yield two minutes to my good friend from texas mr. self. mr. self: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in support of the rule to allow consideration of house resolution 1065, denouncing the biden administration's immigration policies. every day we see a new horror story in the news, a new headline about some violent crime committed by an illegal 22-year-old nursing student laken riley brutally murdered by a venezuelan illegal immigrant.

celebrating his 12th birthday killed by an illegal immigrant driving the wrong way. 16-year-old texas teen, elizabeth medina, stabbed to death by an illegal immigrant from mexico with a criminal background. laken riley, travis wolf and elizabeth medinah would -- medina would still be here today. every crime committed by an illegalenpresent volleyball -- preventable. every murder, every rape, every robbery is preventable. criminal violence is the current outcome that ware seeing every day due to biden's open-border policies. but what about the risk of terrorism? in my 25 years in the army if i learned anything, it is that evil still stalks the world. and we are importing part of that today. we may see an escalation of the horrors inflicted on american families by the invasion on our how many horrific headlines must we endure before biden closes

the border and stops the carnage against americans? i yield back. mr. massie: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts isog mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker let me just say to the gentleman from kentucky, yeah, we've acknowledged the problem. to my eloquent oratory here, but i acknowledged and identified the problem at least 13 times in my speech. i think what i have a problem with, and people on our side of the aisle have a problem with, is that you've beenproblem, like we did three months ago with a nonbinding resolution, a lot of times. and i think we don't think nonbinding resutions and acknowledging the problem are express -- or expressing our feelings is enough. that we have to actually do something. and to the other gentleman who just spoke, you know, we are horrified by the crimes that have been committed by undocumented immigrants who have come to thiso have

criminal records. and we pray for their families and we want to do everything we can to make sure that these things never happen again. but i hard time when we gather, we hear this from my colleagues, when we have shootings that are happening in this country almost on a daily basis. i want to ask unanimous consent to insert the names 19 chchers killed in uvalde. i want to ask unanimous consent to insert the names that were released bthe coroner, of the names of all 58 las vegas shooting victims. i go on and on and on. wewe can do something about that. but oh, the n.r.a. provides lots of money. so my friends don't want to deal with it. i mean, come on. mr. speaker, i'm going to urge that we defeat the previous question and if we do, i'll offer an amendment to the rule to bring h.r. 16, the american dream and promise act of 2023.

mr. speaker, the bipartisan american dream and promise act provide a pathway toizenship for people who only know america as their home. they contribute to society as taxpayers, small business owners educators and more. drea brought to the united states as children through no fault of their own. it's past time to open the doors and empower these talented individuals by granting em that they rightfully deserve. mr. speaker, let me be clear. there's a lot of work that needs to be done to fix our broken h.r. 16 won't solve every issue but it will address a long-outstanding one in our failing immigration system. it is the right thing to do. and we should start here. and it has the added benefit of being a bill that actually does something. it's not an expression of our feelings it does something. so instead of considering the do-nothing republican nonbinding resolution before us today which just restates the republican position from a nonbinding resolution we already passed two

months ago let's consider actual legislation to start fixing these issues, let's bring up h.r. 16, and i ask unanimous consent to insert the text of along with any extraneous material immediately prior to the vote on the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. mcgovern: to discuss ouroman from illinois ms. ramirez. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from illinois is recognized for two minutes. ms. ramirez: thank you, mr. speaker. for the past year, we've entered attack after attack -- we've endured attack after attack after attack on immigrant communities. which, are first generation. many people are second, third and fourth. but we tend t too are immigrants. we've suffered harmful legislation, an impeachment of secretary mayorkas and inflammatory rhetoric criminalizing and scapegoating immigrant communities. folks, i got here about a year and a half ago as a member. and as i look around, i understand why the american

people are so frustrated with congress. they're fed that we don't have the courage, the moral clarity and the political will as a body to see through these theatrics for cheap political points and actually do our job. i stand here today as a daughter of immigrants, but also as a wife of boris hernandez. m the only member of congress in a mixed status family. my husband is a dreamer. and he has been here since the 14. i represent a district of immigrants who call it home, the essential workers that kept us alive during the pandemic. the sameple that you go eat from on cinco de mayo when you celebrate it and you drink your margaritas. so today i'm here proudly standing as a co-lead of the dream and promise act. the dream and promise act is an actual immigration policy cal stunt. it gives dreamers and immigrants in america an earned pathway to citizenship that reflects our values as a nation, asultural democracy of

diversity and inclusion. today i rise to denounce my colleagues' lack of meaningful action on immigration policy. nothing since 1986. we can treat people who have built our communities and public institutions without the promise of citizenship and we can't treat them as disposable. their commitment to us and to our nation have already demonstrated a promise to address our historic labor shortage nine million jobs open right now, to grow our g. dmpt p. by -- g $1.7 trillion over the next decade and we must demonstrate our commitment to them and to the solutions that will deliver real, effective immigration reform. i affirm that this is the body who refuses to use its authority to enact policy and it fails to take up any of the bipartisan n will continue to be a mess, chaotic congress. so i -- mr. mcgovern: i yield th gentlelady app additional -- an additional 30 seconds. ms. ramirez: thank you. we must embrace our values as a

nation without questioning the dignity of our neighbors. there are toddlers who have been here their entire life and now are 30. let's stop acting like we are powerless and pass h.r. 16 today. i yield back to the ranking member. the speaker pro tempore: the chair reminds the members to direct your comments to the chair. the gentleman reserves. mr. mcgovern: yes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. massie: mr. speaker, i now yield three minutes to my friend and colleague on the rules committee, mr. norman from south norman: i thank congressman massie. mr. speaker, i'm proud to speak on resolution 1065, denouncing the biden administration's immigration policies. you know i woke up this morning to a picture of a pol a hit -- a car driven byga alien who was drunk and on drugs. my good friends, this resolution shouldn't be needed. but it's because the b has violated the oath that he took to protect and defend the

united states of america. what they don't want out is anything meaningful that would curb it because they know they've got a rogue president who will not, what cannot be denied is the 9.3 million illegals now in this country. denied is a 94 -- is the 94 executive actions that this president took the day he took office, he started a relentve orders to open our borders up, to over 160 countrys. countries. .can't can't deny, get this, for all the listeners in the balcony, the 20,000 chinese communist nationals now in this country that poses a severe threat turnover american who walks every street on every city in the united states.

they cannot deny the crime statistics. the vanes way lain, daniel martinez, new york city, on june committed 14 crimes leading to six arrests including the day he grabbed a strangerts and dragged her and kicked her across the floor. on february 24, 2024, a venezuelan national was arrested virginia for sexual offenses against a minor. he was first crossed illegally in septemb was released. in august of 2023, police nigerian driving under the influence. he had only been in the country for seven months. the police officer suf fracture. and then one of many but on may, 2023 a honduran raped a teenage girl in alabama. folks, this is going to continue until this rogue administration

offers meaningful and determines they're going to shut the border. in rules committee i asked about the wall and ms. jayapal mentioned the fact she didn't evl. that has been paid for by the trump administration during his four years. i mentioned, what's the difference in the wall that has designated points of entry than the wall that was around the capitol to hear the president of the united states talk? the speaker pro tempore: the gentle reminder to members to anot address the citizens in the gallery. mr. massie speak yield the gentleman 30 seconds. mr. norman: bottom line this administration has no desire to end immigration. they want it for two things. power, and change the censuses of states transporting them all over this abomination and the support by a meaningful new president who will stop the border and will close it down. thank you and i yield back.

mr. massie: verve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i kind of feel like i'm in an episode of the twilight zone. i can't figure these guys out. bottom line is that, i hear they want to be tough on the border, tough on the border. every time we try to be tough on border -- pass a tough border security bill they say no. what we have here is a nonbinding resolution that does nothing. does nothing. doesn't even go to the senate. can never become law. it is nothing. it is a press release. what they turned down was $440 million for more judges to accelerate the asylum claims. so we're not waiting years. we can do this in weeks and months. $23 million to destruct mexican cartel they said no to that. $6.7 billion for customs to that. 50,000 i.c.e. detention beds, no to that. $4 billion for uscas, they why? because the former president of

the united states called up and said, i want the issue. the former president of the united states who said immitry. the former president of the united states, i'll insert this article in the recore title is "he said hitler did no, ma'am good things," ex-chief of staff says trump praised hitler in the white house. let that sink in. i reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. massie: they said when we re-- on the other side of the aisle they said when we recite the names of illegal -- victims of illegal immigration they say the victims are props. and i resent that. i really do. because the other side of the aisle the next measure of the debate to enter names of victims who had been imild criminals using guns. so let's just agree today that whenr the names of people who have suffered at the hands of criminals whether they be domestic or illegal sadly as so

many are now, that we don't call them props. with that, i'd like to yield three minutes to my good friend from texas and fellow member on the rules committee mr. roy. mr. roy: i thank the gentleman from kentucky, my good friend. he's probably as surprised as i am to be accused of taking orders from the former president and that following whatever the former president says. and you know, i think, you know, the gentleman from massachusetts wants to take a flight down to mar-a-lago, he's welcome to tell the former president that the the gentleman from texas and gentleman from orders. the reason that matters, i had the president's former i.c.e. director under oath in the judiciary committee and i asked hi i asked are were articulating the massive problems in the senate bill pyre to the former president commenting he said yes. we all knew it was a failed bill we knew it was a prop. the gentleman from massachusetts makes crystal clear, crystal clear what the actual game is the gentleman from massachusetts gives up the game today.

he comes to the floor of the house and he says, quote republicans own this now. that is an important phrase. republicans own this now. whatea my radical progressive democrat colleagues who believe in wide open borders allowing mass release of immigrants, that resulted in the deaths of thousands of americans through fentanyl or the danger of what we saw happen to laken riley those radical progressive democrats are realizing the american people are caught up to them. they realize it's their policies that rule in the death and destruction of the american people. so they are putting forward bills that have no chance of succeed, legislation that will not solve the problem or cod -- will codify mass releases, will not deal with unaccompanied children, will not deal with issues of parole that the president is using to violate current law which requires case-by-case analysis to process people in the united states, mass relesses, that resulted in

the death of laken riley. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle know this. they're trying to use a bill they put forward that won't solve the problem, that will make it worse, to deflect and push blame politically to republicans. that's why the gentleman from massachusetts on the floor of the house today said, republicans own this because they're purposefully trying to on fuse kate the truth. and the truth is, laken riley is dead because the president of the united states, joe biden who took a -- stood up on that dais last week and lectured the american people that president made the decision with the full support and execution by alejandro mayorkas, to mass release people into the united states that they know contain mass num criminals terrorists, people from all over the world, including the chi dmeez communist party, that have been released into the united states. and laken riley is now dead and aiden clark is now dead and kayla hamilton is now ed, beaten to death in her own home, liz

beth texan, now dead, beat ton death in her own home, found in the bat tub by her mom instead ofrming her cheer leading out in a parade. that's the truth. my colleagues on the other side know it and they're trying to the de-flect. tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i ask unanimous consent to insert into the record an article from axios titled "trump plot to kill border deal." i would say to the gentleman who was just yelling that we -- we're not -- the proposal we're talking about, the bipartisan border security deal is not something we wrote over here. it was written in senate. led by the second most conservative republican in the united states senate. he said it doesn't have a chance of passing. i'll bet him anything that if heo the floor and if he actually let it be brought before the full house that it would pass. that's why trump intervened to make sure that it never got a

chance to go to the floor because he knows it would pass. and to the gentleman from kentucky, i think -- no one over here, i certainly didn't call the victims -- the speaker pro tempore: remind -- members are reminded to direc chair. mr. mcgovern: i did not refer to the victims of violence who were killed by undocumented immigrants as props. said my republican friends are using them as props. and i inserted into the record the people who were killed by gun violence because i'm thieferred selective outrage. the bottom line is, you know, countless people in this country are killed every week in gun violence and my republican friends do not want to do anything about it because the n.r.a. owns the republican party. in this country. and they're afraid to lose the money. that's what this is so look. you know. our complaint here is that we are talking about border

security issues and our frustration is that what we're dealing with, this tough bill, my republicans are so tough on the border, the tough bill they're bringing before the house of representatives is a nonbinding resolution that can never become law that won't even be sent to the senate, it's just a press release. i think a colossal waste of time. surely there has to be common ground where republicans and democrats can come together and actually pass things to beer se our border and to protect people like laken riley and others. in the future. i guess that's too much to ask. time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. massie: i yield minutes to my friend from missouri mr. alford. mr. alford: i rise today to share my support for h.r. 1071, utilizing space efficiently and improving technologies act of 2023 otherwise known as the use it act. mr. speaker, it's time for federal employees to get back

into the office, use it or lose it. the government accountability office g.a.o., found that on average 17 of the 24c.f.o. agency headquarters were at least 25% or less utilization in 2023. two examples that i have direct oversight over being on these committees of small business and ag. the small business mi 270,000 square feet, only 9% of the people who work there show up for work. in the usda, two million square feet, beautiful buildings just down the street here. only 11% of those buildings are occupied. are these agencies to hide to lower the number of workers actually showing up for working for the american people? the majority workers a are not answering the phones. that's why our congressional offices are having to do their job. look i don't mind helping our constituents. that's what we get paid to do. i have a card here most members

in congress carry their schedule around in their pocket. we have 16 appointment speaker, you show up for work. every day that you're supposed to be here. the ranking member shows up for work. he's not phoning it in. people in these agencies should not be phoning it in either. we need to look at our constituents as clients, the american taxpayer. you know, when i first came to d.c. 14 months ago, i wanted to visit the very agencies over which we had oversight. the small business administration. the pentagon. the usda. we went to the pentagon but the other agencies would not let us in the door. and why is that? a sitting member of congress could not get into the door of these agencies? that's when we nailed congressional access to bureaucratic offices which more or less complements this resolution. sitting members of congress should be able to get into these agencies, they are not because theyiding the low numbers of people who are actually at their desk. this bill, 1071, would require

the agencies to submit a report the actual utilization rate. mr. speaker, as a former news anchor for 35 years in america. -- in america, i have breaking news for you. covid is over. get back to work for the american people, start doing your job, quit putting the pressure on constituents to have to call their congress member, their congressman or congresswoman, to get the job done that they should be doing in the first place. with that, i yield back. mr. massie: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentleman from massac: if i can just respond to the gentleman who just spoke, not all jobs are the same. i mean, food npor, federal food inspector, for example, don't sit at a desk five days a week. sometimes they have to go out and do inspections to make sure that the food we provide people is safe. federal firefighters are not behind a desk five days a week. doesn't mean they're not working. ourde bor are

you know, are patrolling the border. that doesn't mean they don't need a desk at some point. heck, members of congress. we're not in washington mind our desk five days a week. sometimes we're in our districts. sometimes we're in other places. but because we don't sho to work, you know, a day or two or five days in a particular month that somehow we should have our desks taken away? this is the problem. with some better bipartisan cooperation, with, you know, more thoughtful consideration of these matters, we could have had a bill that would have sailed out of here unanimously. but again, my friends can't help themselves, it's either their way or the highway, and in any event the way the bill is currently written ignores the realities of the workers that i just mentioned. i reserve my time. . mr. massie: i yield three minutes to my friend and colleague from new york, mr. langworthy.

the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized mr. langworthy: thank you to the gentleman for yielding the time. i rise in support of the rule which provides for consideration of h.res. 1065, a resolution denouncing the biden administration's disastrous border policyies. the biden administration's administration's utter failure to maintain operational control of our southern border has led to a crisis so extensive it spilled across my home state of new york, and our nation's northern border as well. according to the latest data, nce october 1, 2023, the northern border has seen a record number of illegal immigrants and drug seizures. most notably fentanyl by border patrol. according to border patrol the number of apprehensions of illegal aliens has more than doubled from thi time last year, leading to a crisis that is overwhelming our brave border patrol agents who are trying in spite of this administration to maintain some semblance of security at our borders. let me be clear the biden

administration's self-imposed border crisis has permanent nateed every port of entry. nearly our entire land border, southern and northern. ht thing. the humane thing. and step in to stop the flow of trafficked migrants and lethal fentanyl. many americans to the crime and drugs that the biden administration is allowing to come across our wide open border. how many americanes do we need to lose before biden takes any meaningful action to secure the border? my colleagues on the other side of the aisle have once again claimed that the resolution before us today is not serious and does not address the crisis. i'd like to remind my colleagues that the house of representatives and house republicans passed historic funding levels to support our nation's border patrol over the robust opposition of many house democrats. republicans have also passed h.r. 2, a bill that would have

serious and positive impact on nation's borders. all of this was done while my colleagues on the other side of the aisle and the biden administration -- doggedly refused to admit a cry sixisted on our borders. biden inherited an operationally secure southern border, as soon as he was sworn in he began reversing the policies that kept americans safe. his administration has0 actions to undermine border security. on behalf of the american people house republicans are telling president biden to end this madness now. if it's not already clear, i strongly support this rule before us today as well as the underlying legislation that denounces this administration for allowing the crisis on our borders -- borders to unfold. with that, mr. speaker yield the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from connecticut reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i have heard the gentleman repeatedly brag about

this homeland security appropriations bill that the republicans passed last year. as a demonstration of their commitment to securing our border. but here's what he left out. my republican friends still still,ll have not sent it over to the senate. they have not sent it over to the senate. i don't know why. by the way h.r. 2 is dead. they could only get 32 votes in the senate. that's a strong message that it's going nowhere. with that i reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts reserves. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. massie: mr. speaker, may i inquire how much time i the gentleman from kentucky has 13 1/2 minutes remaining. the gentleman from massachusetts has 7 minute mr. speaker, during the first 100 days in office president biden took 94 executive actions on immigration immigration. including halting construction of the border wall. in august of 2022, the biden administration formally halted successful

remain in mexico program. in may of 2023, the administration announced that it would allow for the release of so migrant no way to track them. the biden administration also ended title 42. the c.d.c. order that allowed the department of homeland security to remove noncitizens who did not have proper travel documentation. whose entry was law or who were apprehended at or near the border seeking unlawful enter into the united states withou claims for proceedings. shortly after taking office, president biden terminated the asylum cooperative agreements, el salvador, and honduras to a facilitate cooperation in resolving the migration crisis.stration has also abused its authority under the immigration and nationality act to grant parole on a case by case basis and has used this authority to grant mass parole to over one million migrants. the biden administration has

also failed to detain migrants encountered at the southern border and failed to use its authority to perform expedited removal of individuals illegally present in the united states. as a result, since president biden took office, 9.3 million illegal aliens from all over the world have arrived at the the biden administration has allowed at least 6.3 million illegal aliens to travel from the southern border to enter american communities. this is a tragedy. we need to call attention to it. president biden says there is nothing he can do. i just listed a number of things that he has done to create this crisis. and further in this debate i'll talk about some of the things that he can do, that we know he can do. things stated in the resolution contained in this rule to end this national security border. with that i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the the gentleman kentucky reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts

is recognized. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, can i inquire of the gentleman is he prepared to close or does he have another speaker? i will reser gentleman from massachusetts reserves. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. massie: i yield four minutes to my good friend from t mr. fallon. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for four minutes. mr. fallon: thank you, mr. speaker. we have myths and then we have facts. let's go over some myths for a second. particularly when you talk about the border. myth one i heard, the g.o.p. doesn't want -- doesn't have any solutions and doesn't want to solve this border crisis. it's not a crisis anymore, it's a calamity. somehow donald trump calls a bipartisan deal that will solve the border crisis is scuttled. and that h.r. 2 was somehow which was the omni must border security bill, was radical. talk about facts. first ofp didn't call and scuttle anything.

we want to solve this crisis because we took in solving the crisis, we need a true -- a bill that will do that. the bipartisan bill coming out of the i should say so-called, no house republican even had any input on that -- those discussions at all. there were flaws in that legislation and loopholes. do i agree with the gentleman from massachusetts, which i was born and raised for my first 22 years, that this is divided governmentto have some compromise. i'm -- if you want to get anything done on everything. you want to strike a deal that works and gets things done. i going to dictate. we are not -- not going to dictate. we are in no position to. talk about, again some inconvenient truths. the past prior administrations past two, talking about the obama and trump administrations at this juncture in their presidencies there were about 1.7 million illegal border

encounters. this administration has seen that number explode to eight million. there is a problem. there is something fundamentally different now than in the couple years, last couple years of the trump administration, there were three people that were on the terrorist watch list that were apprehended. last fiscal year was 169. chinese nationals, mostly military age, under president trump's final about 450 in a given year. that had ballooned to 40,000 plus. that's alarming. that's concerning. the cartels have never made more money. they are charging somewhere between $4,000 and $7,000 a head. can we have order, mr. speaker? the speaker pro tempore: order please. the gentleman may resume. mr. fallon: 170 countries are represented by folks that are crossing the border illegally. fentanyl deaths have doubled. we had -- a couple of outlier years, i think the year

2000, for the last 20-plus years, we never had a month where we had 200,000 illegal border crossings. under this administration we had 20. in december we had 300,000 illegal crossings. f.y.2017 there were 300,000 all year. there are things fundamentally different. republicans want to solve it because we took a sacred oath to the safety of american citizens. if you are not safe, then you're not free. here are our solutions. wait in mexico will reduce this flood by 70%. ask anybody that deals with the border. any expert that's honest. a border wall is another barrier that actually works. you find them around the whiteund people's beach houses and mansions in malibu. around -- when we had the state of the union there was a fence. for six months after january 6 there was a fence. expedited removal. punishing folks that overstay their visas. e-verify. workable solutions. they are not radical.

the american people are crying for them. if our friends across the aisle don't recognize that, they'll rue the day come november. thank you, mr. speaker. mr. massie: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: can i ask the gentleman if he's prepared to close? i yield my southwest remaining time, mr. speaker. to the gentleman who just spoke, let me just say, you talk about facts. what is an undeniable fact is the bill before us does absolutely nothing. nothing. it doesn't add one more border patrol agent along our southern or northern border. it doesn't add any more judges. doesn't do anything to stop the mexican cartels it does nothing. it's a press release. the other fact is h.r. 2 is going nowhere, fast. 32 votes in the senate. and he also said they like to work together. every time we try to work together, that's what we tried to do in the senate, my republican friends here in the house at the request of donald

trump say no. we don't want to work with you. that's the problem. because we have to work together in order to get real meaningful solutions over the finish line. the gentleman also keeps on creaming the border is opened, the border is open. that's the republican rallying cry. it isn't. say it enough time maybe people might believe you and try to come here because you keep on saying that. mr. speaker, the american people are smart. they know the difference between empty promises and real action. they know that the only way to get things done in divided government for problems to be solved, like the border, members of both parties have to work together. they know that come november the future of this country is in their hands. they have seen the complete and utter disaster that this republican majority has created in this congress. they have witnessed the absolute chaos house republicans have thrown the country into. we are in the rules committee all bills of consequence go to the rules committee before they

come to the house floor. the last bill that we reported on the rules committee to the house floor that became law was nine months ago. how can that happen? how can that happen without incredible dysfunction on the republican side. these guys have brought the nation to the brink of default. shying away from fully funding the government. destabilizing this body by throwing fits and unceding -- unseating speak earns taking the house floor hostage of the the american people also know that house democrats have rescued this failing house republican majority at nearly every turn. house democrats carry the vote to ensure the united states didn't default on the debt. house democrats have kept the government running despite g.o.p. leadership wasting time pursuing unrealistic draconian spending cuts. house democrats have used every opportunity to stand been nothing but dysfunctional, mr. speaker. they have no new ideas no tangible solutions, no drive to

address pressing domestic and global challenges. the american people know that. which is why republicans are going to lose in november. i urge my colleagues to vote no on this rule. with that, mr. speaker, i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts yields back. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. massie: mr. speaker, this rules committee resolution that we are debating today provides for the consideration of two pieces of legislation. very important legislation. the first is the commonsense bill that says if the government is heating lighting, renting maintaining, empty show up for work, let's do something about that. let's find out how bad this problem is. we believe that there are over 17 agencies with occupancy less than 25%. this isn't green. i thought the other side of the aisle was green. it'sreen to heat empty buildings, to light empty buildings.

when nobody shows up for work. covid is over. either come to work or don't come to work, but let's don't keep these buildings opened if nobody is in them. . that's the first part. the second part stands in sharp contrast from the state of the union that we heard last week from this up and said, there was nothing he could do. well this resolution has a lot of inconvenient facts that refute the proposition of the president that he can't do anything. not only can he do something the things he has done by executive order over 94 of them have been hurtful to the security of this country. we're seeing illegal immigrants drawn like a magnet to this country because of the things the president -- of the things that president biden has done. so the resolution begins with a

bunch of statements of facts such as the president and the secretary of homeland security have created this problem. the worst in the nation's history at the border. and beginning on day one systematically dismantled security measures. but it closes by resolving this resolution does, that there are seven things the president can do to end this crisis. one, end the catch and release policy. two, reinstate the migrant protection policies. three, enter into asylum cooperative agreements. four, end abuses of parole authority. five detain inadmissible aliens. six, use expedited removal authority. seven, rein in tax taxpayer funded benefits for illegal immigrants of he could do all these things tomorrow. that's why it's important to pass this resolution, to draw attention to the problem so it can be fixed. to state what the solutions are.

i urge adoption of this rule. i urge my colleagues to vote for it. and i yield back the balance of my time and move the previous question on the resolution. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky yields back the balance of his time. the question is now on ordering the previous question on the resolution. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair the ayes have it. for what purpose does the gentleman from massachusetts seek recognition? the yeas and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number havingeas and nays are ordered. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20 further proceedings on this question are postponed. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess for a period of less than 15 minutes.

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foundation is the nation's largest right of center think tank. we have about 49 employees mostly in texas but we have people all over the country including in washington, d.c. and we do a lot of research write a lot of pain, i've written a few myself, we testify before the texas legislature occasionally before the congress in washington, d.c., and insofar as immigration and the border we're concerned about border security. we think it's a national security threat. we think it's a threat to the health and safety we'd like to see the border controlled it's not under control right now. host: when it comes to the foundation, how sit primarily funded? guest: we are funded by private contributions. our bylaws prohibit government funding, which is unusual. so we have literally thousands and thousands of people, mostly in texas who fund our operations. host: when it comes to texas and its approach to immigration, a

lot of our viewers would probably know something like operation lone star. could you describe what it is and what led to its implementation? governor greg abbott the governor of texas as well as the texas legislature, especially lieutenant govern jordan patrick and the legislative leaders. for the cost of about $2 billion a year, what it does is it places additional resources on the border. this would be department of public safety, those would be the texas state troopers, as well as the texas national guard. i know a bit i served in the national guard in california for some 20 years and retired as the deputy j-1 for the state national guard in california. the other thing they're doing of course is they are erecting some additional barrier along the border, along private property where the property owners generally are favorable to installing additional barriers

to entry. trying