ferber discusses the 50th anniversary of woodstock and the counterculture of the 1960's. as always, we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter as well. "washington journal" is next. ♪ host: good morning. a live view of the white house, 7:00 a.m. in washington dc, the president returning later today as congress continues its august recess. sunday, august 18th. with an eye on the 2020 elections, we want to hear from only those of you that support president trump. we will divide phone lines regionally. for those of you living in the eastern or central science -- time zones, the number is (202) 748-8000. mountain or pacific, (202) 748-8001. if you want to join us on social

media, we will reach her tweets @cspanwj, or on facebook, facebook.com/cspan. thank you for being with us. a piece in "the hill" newspaper, focusing on whether there is a social stigma for being a supporter of donald trump, we want to hear from trump supporters. the risks of coming out as a republican or a trump supporter can be severe. "as a result, many conservatives keep their mouths shut and remain quiet about their political views and these same conservatives show up at the polls and pull the report -- lever for republican candidates. fear of stigma

before sa is available online. the headline "democrats demonizing trump supporters destroys accurate holes. this is the headline from inside times,"new york "tensions rise during face-off in cortland." please arresting -- portland." "hundreds of far-right protesters in anti-fascist counterdemonstrators swarmed downtown oregon. they were largely successful. morning,gan saturday gathering downtown with some

wearing body armor and helmets, seizing weapons including shields towards the willamette river with two dozen agencies again, those details from the associated press.

we want to hear from supporters of president trump and whether there is a stigma against supporting the president. this is from the president last thursday. [video clip] >> this is the greatest political movement in history of our country. a movementever been like this. it's based on love, we love our faith, our flag and our freedom. that is what it is about. add to that the fact that we love our neighbors and we love .ur country together we are united by a principle, a nations

first duty must always be to its own citizens, its own, we have got to take care of our own. not heard that from a politician or political leader in a long time. america first, america first. host: the president in new hampshire, the first of the nation's primaries, he won it three years ago. we want to hear from trump .upporters is there a stigma in supporting the president? good morning. caller: i would like to say that the other is a stigma, but i don't care about it. support theo president. i am african-american. i don't think he's a racist. i think that the glen has been put on him.

i know what racism is. i'm 55 years old. have allowed the media and white folks to define what racism is an black people need to stop allowing the democratic party to do that. sounds like you are driving and listening to c-span radio? caller: yes. host: thanks for joining in. it is also heard on the free c-span radio app and coast-to-coast on sirius xm. is joining us from olympia, washington. good morning. support theally president and it's hard to get through pass the lies the democrats put up. when he said there is fine people on both sides, if they read the 1500 words or whatever

went with that context, anybody would know that he wasn't talking about the black, i mean the white nationalists. they talk about him being a racist. i have never heard him say one word that is racist. they attribute that to his, you know -- it wouldn't matter who was coming over the border in these mass numbers, if they were white, black, or blue. it doesn't matter. he is contending with the volume of the people coming over. color has nothing to do with it. there are so many things that we have to work through. i think the democrats are really quite rude about how they do treat trump supporters. they are absolutely rude. the hate comes from their side. not from the republican side.

host: thank you for the call. bill king has this tweet -- host: harold is joining us next from westwood, new jersey. good morning. caller: my comment has to do with -- i'm a 96-year-old veteran. what you just read is obviously fake news. here's the real problem, in my opinion. if he does drain the swamp, and that's what we have to do, people are afraid of the truth. of truth couldht be hope for everybody. it's a final opportunity to save our country from the national debt and the serious problems that we have.

the democrats are afraid of -- i would think this, the internal polling of the democrats has already showed them that they are going to lose. there's no way they can be donald trump. they are trying to make him make a serious mistake. ,y throwing all of this at him that itviously possible is donald trump's to lose and if he loses, it may be the last chance to save our country. i was at one time a democrat and then republican and they are all against him. they want to keep the status quo and the status quo is divisive and financially impossible to maintain. god we willp of , but itald trump again

has got to be -- all of the citizens have got to start pulling together and what i tried to tell my grandchildren is read and think. host: thank you for the call. how old? caller: just 96. host: sound great, keep it up. what's your secret? caller: thank you. the citizens must really unite. seriously. unconditional love is the solution. god is the solution. we must love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. host: thank you for the call. another tweet host: dan bowles has this opinion piece inside of "the washington post." "trump has mastered the sideline

of tweeting and not leading."

this morning from "the washington post," available online. isaac is joining us from san bernardino, california. trump supporters only in the first hour. good morning. caller: that last column that you just read right now, you know, obama spent his first four years blaming george w. bush. it makes no difference to me. i want to say that as a pro trump supporter i'm also black, so when a white liberal berates maga haty mag up -- on, -- host: let's go to ray. the criticism of the

republican president has always been personal. on the democratic side they have never been able to criticize a republican president based on the issues. lower taxes, smaller government, a more effective defense, a stronger economy. that's the heart of the republican message. the democrats have nothing that can rival that. milton friedman said it right. what you tax more of, you get less of. the economics of the democratic already is bankrupt. they want us to have venezuelan care for medicine and they want to increase the size of the welfare state and do everything they can to diminish the strength of the family. these are things that the american public rejects no matter how much the media endeavors to cloud the issues. personal attacks against policies that are working are not going to change the electorate. thank you for the call. this from freelancer --

.ost: send is a tweet, @cspanwj in the piece it says whether or not there is a social stigma associated with supporting the president. what we do from time to time his mix things up to hear from different points of view. this morning it is all trump supporters. linda, rhode island, good morning. all i want to say is that i don't think it is exactly a stigma, but certainly we are attacked for our beliefs. , ior to trump taking office also felt that i couldn't express my true beliefs openly because i would be discriminated against. and suffer consequences.

you know, i own a business. if i have a different believe, i don't think it should affect my income. you can see from the way that they have -- you know, exposed people who donated to trump and then attacked them as donators, i believe it was in texas, that's highly unfair. i don't believe it's fair. thank you. host: thank you. jim garrity has this piece about trump supporters that reads as follows

host: the full piece is that nationalreview.com. richard, malden, massachusetts. caller: good morning, i support trouble because he is one of the only politicians that when he was running for president he made some promises and he's trying to keep them. listened to the people. he talks to the people.

we talk to each other. you don't pretend being a nice guy politician. that's all i have to say. the only thing i can't why people when they listen to these politicians say what they are going to do. they never do it. old and i haven't seen it done yet until president trump came in. i appreciate you letting me talk. host: richard, thank you. brandon, you're next. caller: good morning. i was just wondering, the trump many inrs, i know so the panhandle, do we need to start doing more? do we need to show up some places? talking to the democrats the way that they do us? that's what i want to know. hank, you next.

patrick, south carolina. caller: i just want to say that i support the president. support obama and some of the things that bush did i didn't support, but aidan go around all day long bashing him. if you support trump, they call you racist, not see, klansmen. where are they at, you know? i'm tired of getting called because i don't agree with you all, the mainstream media version of things, i get called -- a nazir a racist or a racist. i'm just going to be more vocal.

like the liberals do come i don't want to run them out of restaurants and stuff like that. but i'm not going to be afraid anymore. thank you for the call. john has this tweet, iowa was deplorable when deplorable was not cool. bob? caller: yesterday on television bill martin wished for a recession. how could any democrat stand to go through that suffering? he's worth millions. i don't understand it. yes, i'm a trump supporter and its terrible. you get criticized, they call you a racist, i call you everything. host: that's why we're asking the questions this morning, about whether there is a stigma supporting the president.

susan, thank you for waiting. caller: yeah, hi. host: good morning, you are on the air. caller: yes. yes, there definitely is a stigma. every time a democrat says obstruction over whatever donald trump says -- if he says right, they go left. it's very, very upsetting. susan, thanks. this editorial is from "the washington examiner dealing with congressman castro and his brother who is running for president, this focuses on joaquin castro, it reads as follows -- "often a

that from "the washington examiner." here's more from julian castro. [video clip] >>'s lists are public with complete transparency. when i was running for congress, they always publish the names in the newspapers of the contributors who contributed to the candidates.

you did nothing that everybody didn't already know, correct? i get into the discussion, i want to mention that some of these republicans said that i dock street these people. that's when you tell someone a physical address or phone number. none of that was in this graphic that i shared that was first put up against circulated by a local group. my post was actually a lament. if you look at my language, i said that it is sad that these folks, many of whom are prominent business owners in san a city that 75% hispanic, the customers, the people that made them wealthy, the employees of the people that worked for them for years, many of those folks are hispanic and they are giving their money to a guy running ads talking about hispanics invading the country. it was a lament about all of us going to the restaurants these people own, we patronize these

places and they are giving this money, their money to this guy who is taking their money and using it to purchase facebook ads talking about how hispanics are invading this country. there is a cost to that. we saw the cast -- the cost over the weekend. people died. the manifesto the deck i wrote could have been written by the people that write trump's speeches. that was congressman joaquin castro, releasing the names of the people supporting donald trump. our question is whether or not there is a social stigma to supporting the president. next we go to doris, joining us from fountain hill, arizona. good morning. caller: the stigma is that when something like this comes on washington journal come to this

i watch all the time, you end up doing what you are trying to talk to people about. there's nothing they have on about president trump that isn't negative. here you have asked for a trump supporters to call in. you are doing the same thing. i have a right to support who i want to support and i have a right to my beliefs, but it's ok for the democrats to call me names? and to tell me i'm wrong? host: call is exactly why we are asking this question. i know, and instead of being positive for trump supporters, it's all negative. every tweet that you read is negative for trump. has beenry call

positive. caller: there should be no stigma to believe what you believe. as long as you are not hurting anyone else, you have a right to believe and express it. caller: you understand that our job here is not to host: -- host: you understand that our job here is not to be a cheerleader for any president, simply to provide points of you, but your call is why we want to hear from people like you. i understand that, but your questions are always negative. host: well, we basically editorial from "the hill caller: of course the editorials are against trump, all the people who want to stay in power are against trump. most of the country appreciates that he wants to do something different.

it is ok for the press and everybody to say horrible things about him personally and for his supporters personally, but it's not ok for me to support him. just because they believe things about him -- they are delusional. the democrats are delusional. they don't live in the real world. host: thank you. your final point? just want to say that just because a democrat says it doesn't mean it's true. host: arlene, your next from charlottesville, virginia. it's delusional, no doubt about it. a husband doesn't want to put keep america great sign in our yard because he doesn't want anybody to say anything. everyone thinks he's a racist and he's not. trump is the best president we

have had a long time. thank you. this is from staff. host: jim is joining us from brooklyn, new york, good morning, welcome to the conversation. span.: yes, hello cnn i would like to echo the call from arizona. i have been watching you guys for years. first of all, you guys are nothing but hacks. please don't cut me off. i know you see my hand going there. because you can't handle the truth. host: go ahead with the truth.

caller: how about you do a story the slateke -- article about how "the new york times" is moving from fake russian collusion until election time it is going to be about nothing but trump is a racist and in turn we are all racists. you guys are just playing into it. people are going to get hurt with your rhetoric. you let these people come on. right now it is nothing but trump supporters but after this it will be 3-1 democrats. you have your manufactured callers calling and who do nothing but bash trump and in turn bash all trump supporters. let me stop you there, there are no manufactured callers. we've get the tweets, we put the points of you out there. it's an open forum and an open book and we don't have any agenda, we never have. it,er: yes you do, you know

i will hope you up to a lie detector know the you are full of crap. host: why'd you think we have an agenda question mark caller: you are paid by cut -- agenda question mark caller: you are paid -- agenda? caller: you are paid by comcast. host: let me stop you there, we get 6.5 cents per cable subscriber. we are paid by you. they have no influence, zero influence in the editorial products that we put on the air. we are also the only network that covers the trump rallies in their entirety, live continuously. no other network and say that. caller: what do you want, a star in your shirt? host: you are being sarcastic and i'm trying to respond. caller: every guess that comes on, it's all anti-trump every day. all the time and you know it. host: we have henry olson coming

up in just a moment, what do you think about that. caller: who? olson, a trump supporter. you know what, jim, you have your facts wrong, i am going to now, the-- cut you off information you are putting out is wrong, we are an open network and if you watch the network you know that we cover all points of view, all sides, including the president, no one else can say that. dolores is joining us from carlisle, massachusetts. good morning. morning.ood i just sat down to the tv. i have three points to make. corruption in the country was beyond anything be -- and that's why trump was in office and i really cannot believe what is going on. as far as the second thing, people who like trump never answer the phone, that's the truth, everyone is against them.

third, everything happening in this country is because of immigration and trump is trying but the last thing i want to tell you is that when i picked up the phone for how many years of my life, i'm 91, it says press one for english and press two for spanish. do you know what that does to the american people? no longer when it was. when i was a little girl, people loved the president, there was a patriotism. the second war, people couldn't do enough. with the altogether war, but not now, it would never be like that. trump was elected it was 3:00 on the morning and i got down to my knees at 3:00 and i said -- god, if this man does not get in, the country is gone. that's all i want to say. everyone please pray because if he doesn't save it now, it's no longer the america that we know. ok? thank you very much. from "time magazine, the

battle for the soul of hong kong. a focus that we will have marion smith, involved in an organization trying to fight communism around the world. and fox pollump from fox news has president trump in trouble from newsweek.com. the latest fox poll on the 2020 presidential race shows donald trump in trouble against every including challenger, joe biden, kamala harris, bernie sanders and elizabeth moran. it found that 39% of registered voters supported trump and his reelection bid when he is being challenged by sanders, harris, or warren, but the sanders had and harris winning over the president at 46%

stories are newsweek and the whole is available on the fox news website. roger, good morning. good morning, thanks for c-span. i've been watching used since the day you started. letter you a long, long about greta on your show. because i called in about a topic she was talking about and at first -- i just started talking about and she said it was racist and hung up on me. i could be farther from racist. i used to own two nightclubs there were mixed.

second of all, the man on the show last week, it was about trump supporters and for some reason, then the second hour it was about trump being negative. you have got to bring people there that no question have a bias. no question about it. i will tell you, you say -- how can you -- you only get six cents per person, but i want to tell you something, i want you to have a show one day that asks nbc, msnbc, abc, cbs , all the major networks that are on television that have criticized the president? name who owns them, name who names them. they are all to the secular left and you won't put it on the air. the trouble is, they put pressure on you know because there is definitely, definitely a difference in your show. no question about it. i see it. host: it's not true.

first of all, all of us sit here, pedro, greta, myself, john , we take calls, basically this is a reflection of america. your point of view is just as valid as the person who doesn't like president trump or the person who is undecided, but nobody influences or editorial process here. nobody. if you like or don't like our programming, you can blame on's, but there is no outside influence from the cable companies. look at all the other stations i talked about. it's been nonstop like you said. i cannot speak to msnbc or fox news, i'm talking about what we do here at this network. well i definitely see a difference, steve, i have a lot of respect for you and the show. i can see the difference. i want you to have a show one morning of the owners of the

other major newscasts. the owners, who they are. they are all secular left. when they turn against the president, that's and he was reelected in the first thing he said was that we could start saying merry christmas again. that was the key that was a slap in your face and they want to make them pay for it. int: well, it wasn't a slap our face here at c-span, but roger, i appreciate your call and thanks for joining in on the conversation. caller: [indiscernible] host: we will go to a net, joining us from alexandria city, alabama. caller: good morning to you. a lot of this anger is coming -- it's aimed at you, i think you are great, but i was just so tired of being called all these nasty names. the nightis started he was named president of the united states, they vowed to resist from day one.

they admitted it, they screamed, they hollered, they cried. the way that i look at it, our friends right now are at a crossroads because listening to castro, the clip that you played should send a chill down anybody's back. he is convincing himself that he is right about trump supporters. ,eing racist blah blah blah it's just a chilling example of how we are on a downhill slide. one more thing. i find it ironic that the democrats are the ones with the racist history. they started the kkk, the jim crow, they fought tooth and nail to keep civil rights away from the black people. republicans are the ones who fought for civil rights until martin luther king, who stepped up and forced the democrats to finally give them civil rights,

which -- i don't understand it, the label us with their own labels. i looked it up, it is in their history. i'm trying to think of which one that said -- it was mayor pete to actually said the republicans will go down in history if we do not turn against trump. it will be in history that we i was sots, bigots, angry, i said don't put it on us. we get angry, we are not what we say they are. joe biden admitted that he had to work with segregationists in his own party in congress. they had a kkk man that they revered. i don't know, everything is topsy-turvy. because they hate trump as he

beat hillary clinton. i love c-span, thank you for taking my call. we love you. this is from jodey -- host: let's go to linda, new mexico. good morning. caller: good morning. i am a former of trump. cooley and castro say all of these untruths about republicans and conservatives. we are not racist. there's not a racist bone in my body. i have people of several different races that are very good friends and we both know what the other race is. it's obvious when you look at someone. but that's the end of it, we don't even think about that afterwards. i listened to some of the other channels and i just think about them calling trump a liar all

the time and all they do is lie about a lot of things. things that i know are not true. legals. against you i have hispanic people in my family. or thet against illegals hispanics but i am against them bringing people into our country and asked us middle-class people to pay for their everything, from their health care to their college education. my whole family, we paid for our own. my grandkids in my crit -- my kids are struggling to pay for college because they are middle-class and they don't get a lot of other help. i just wish that someone would hold the liberals in the liberal media to being truthful about things. so many of the things that they say are not true. it is very upsetting to me.

stigma. a social i have people i don't even talk to about politics because i know what they would say. host: thank you for the call from new mexico. this is from park host: erin, texas, good morning. i realize that -- please don't hang me up, a few callers have berated you and felt that you wasn't fair. i have seen what they are talking about, but i'm asking them to stop attacking you. host: it's fine, we're all adults, big boys and girls. all they do when they attack c-span or whoever the moderator is of the day is he of the democrats more ammunition to use against us. there is a stigma against trump

supporters, but they automatically think that you are prejudiced against everything. .ell, i have never seen color i guess i grew up in a cocoon because i have never had a loan in my body against anyone. i'm also a christian. -- had a bone in my body against everyone. i'm also a christian. i wish they had put prayer back in schools along time ago. i think that's why so many of our kids are headed down the wrong path, they don't have the opposite side to look at in here from. also, you cut off the young man this morning who said he was black and wore a magma hat and he was about to tell you of an incident that happened to him from people against trump and you cut him off. him up because of a

potential profanity. that's why i cut him off. caller: ok, that's understandable then. anyway, i'm a trump supporter and i voted for him last year. i mean last election. and i will probably vote for him again this year. i was raised democrat. the democrat party has changed. the democrat party used to be what the republican party is now. the democratic party has gone way too far left. i don't understand why they think it's ok to call us racists andto call us prejudice say, accuse us of beating on and falsely accusing them when, in fact, they are the ones people out of restaurants, booed the vice president out of a theater show that he and his wife just wanted a night out. they, they, they just

aren't -- everything they accuse us of doing, they have done. we haven't. i haven't not once done anything like that in neither have any of my friends. i had one friend lose friends on facebook because she was a trump supporter. i don't care if i lose friends. they don't like what i have to say, fine. i got, there's more people to be friends with. but this really upset her. know, it's just, everybody needs to stop and take a breath. democrats that are for abortion, i've never been for abortion. and i was raised democrat. my dad used to do the lobby. i, i just can't get behind anybody. forked person that is

abortion are open borders. host: we believe it there. thank you for the call, we appreciate it. this is a tweet from see that says -- host: front page of today's "new york times," is a new recession imminent? here's how it could happen, it's a piece by neil .rwin and from "time magazine," independence losing confidence on the economy based on a couple of surveys, it's available at time.com, republicans and independents losing faith in the innomy at the steepest rate his presidency, signaling more growth to make economic a centerpiece of his reelection campaign. the university of michigan consumer index fell to its second lowest level just before the 2016 election.

a deeper look at the numbers by party affiliates shows signs for the presidents that are warnings. host: that from richard curtin, the director of the survey. he spoke to supporters last week . voters historically had higher consumer confidence when a president from their party is in the white house and there was a big boost in optimism after the election but there can't -- confidence is at the lowest level of his presidency. next is arthur. good morning, from hawaii. up early today. hello hot, c-span. you are taking a lot of hits today. why is that? comment with your --host: go ahead with your comment. caller: the active-duty people

have to be supportive of the president. we kind of stuck in a quagmire. us president is in charge of , so in a way we have to go with it. i like him because i came from the old reagan administration back in the 80's. but hey, we had obama and clinton. we have just got to go with the roles. the good and the bad. you for the call. henry olsen will be joining us at the top of the hour, he is the author of the book "the working-class republican and the return of lou caller conservatism. had he is joining us from clarksville. good morning, welcome to the conversation. caller: good morning. i just wanted to make a comment. muslim but iing support trump.

i don't consider myself democrat or republican. but i realize that from the beginning they wanted to show -- the media wanted to trade trump as anti-muslim and i never bought that. it's not true. i supported him from the beginning. i like what he stood for and he wanted to change things. host: thank you for the call. dena is joining us from ohio, good morning. caller: hi, steve. thank you for taking my call. i appreciate you guys. you have a lot of class. i have been watching you for many years. but let me say, just to stay on your topic, i am a trump supporter and i live in a rural community. there are fields all around me. aga hat andggot -- m i'm afraid to wear it out. i haven't had a problems with

that, but there are a couple of things i would like to bring to your attention. last week president trump was at a rally in pennsylvania at some kind of an energy plan and he spoke for an hour, i enjoyed watching it, i'm a huge fan of president trump. he featured a tweet by journalists who pointed out something very negative, that workers were angry because when they went off the clock at 3:00 they weren't going to be paid for being at the rally. it was hard to keep them in their, i didn't understand why that was necessary to do. that's my first comment. moment,ay there for a this is a story from inside of "the new york times, they were attendedchoice -- trump speech or lose pay, thousands of workers at the plant being built outside of pittsburgh were given the choice of attending the speech or losing their pay for a week. the attendance was not mandatory one of the contractors wrote in

rules for the speech but it said that only those who arrived at 7 a.m. heather work id scan and stood waiting for the president for several hours, only they would get paid for the time, no scan, no pay. caller:6 that's why i you guys, it was bothering me all week, now i see what happened. i'm very sorry to hear it, i'm still a huge trump fan. here's the other thing that concerned me. i love it when you cover book fairs. we have property and i've always out on the property, but i always make a point of trying to watch as much as i can and here is what disappointed me, in the beginning they were giving awards to two authors because they had some think all the writers trail. people always laugh at me because i say things like i'm a fan of c-span and i said i like to listen to smart people talk and that's what you provide, smart people who talk. womanere was a young lack

the wife of the mayor, she spoke well for one of her descendents and it was beautifully done. and then here comes this white author and he used this for him, he is getting an award, a very well thought of offer who is using this forum to take a shot at president trump and am thinking to myself why is that necessary? a lot of my favorite authors, like douglas berkeley, who has always been the dean of historians, i can't even turn them on anymore. it's not so much what can i hear him say that i will learn but how long will it take before he takes a shot at president trump? i've been waiting a long time to tell you that i feel this way about these authors. your programming is excellent and a glut of had a chance to address my concern. host: tier point, from the beginning the network has tried to do one thing, one basic principle, to put all points of view and all voices out there. you may agree or disagree with what people say, but you have the chance to watch these

interviews or these speeches or these book fairs or "the washington journal" in their entirety, so if there is a tweet that goes up its in context of what's happening and to put more information out there you can go to the website, read the news accounts. if a speaker is going to make remarks either supported or critical of the president, that's not our job, our job is to kind of put it all out there you watch theid, interviews, you like to listen to smart people and you make of your own mind. think you for the call. caller: can i make one more comment question mark i'm retired, i don't work anymore, but when i did i worked in a call center like in management and my boss used to say that i was really when he knew of that would switch back and forth between the ncaa and book tv. i have just kind of been that way. ideas a marketplace of and thank you again for presenting that. thank you-- host: again for the call. charlotte, memphis, tennessee.

caller: how are you this morning? host: terrific, how are you? i'm well. thank you for allowing me to express my opinion on this topic . i've been listening to you guys since the middle of the bill clinton administration and this is the first time i have been able to call and i want you to know that i love donald j. trump and i do feel that there is a social stigma attacked to -- attached to us, but i am excited thoughe fact that even the stigma is there, people are not stupid. realize that it is a choice between someone who seems to have the characteristics of a bore in a china shop or someone who is trying to address the basic needs that we have for our children and families and allows us to have food on the tables. and jobs from choice. i went through a time when i

lost my home and my car because i couldn't find a job. yet i was educated. i was working on a masters degree in information technology. this was shortly after the time when the housing bubble occurred. i'm excited now, getting a chance to hire people, i'm involved in my community and in my church. it's like the floodgates have opened and people are coming back to church because they seem to be happy about the economy. i do not believe that there is going to be an economic downturn. i believe that if it happens it's a self prophecy from the mainstream media. i'm excited about the future of our country now.

i am proud to be an american. it gives me a great deal of hope for the future now and i will say that people are not properly acknowledging or letting others know that they support trump because of the stigma. that therey believe are going to be a flood of people who are going to come out and make their choices known. worked in the polls for president trump and they would avoid eye contact with me and afterwards they would come out and grab me and hugged me and say -- i love donald j. trump. but they just -- they were just afraid. i think that in order for the media to have a better idea of who those people are, if they would tone down the rhetoric and the hate speech, more and more people would come out and voice their opinion about who they support and you would have a

better idea of who is going to win and lose. we used the word stigma, because of this -- onny remain quiet and then voting day they show up at the polls and pull the lever for republican candidates host: let's go to russell, who joins us from michigan. good morning, russell. caller: i have been a fan ever

since i lived in central america. i wanted to say that i voted for trump and i love the guy. a lot of people like me did not vote because his name was trump. we wanted a change in america and mr. trump, president trump represented the change that we all wanted. it could have been anybody's name. but they could not have done what mr. trump, president trump has done. say that i appreciate c-span and thank you very much. host: thank you for the call. -- youou can see as a can see as this plays out, the play words that the president would say be unto terms, you can follow him on twitter. good morning, but there'll.

-- good morning, darrell. caller: it was the democratic party in the 1970's that seemed to be the advocate for freedom of speech. now it seems like the democratic party is the one who wants to stop any freedom of speech. they restrict who comes to speak on their campuses of the universities. it is the republican party who is -- it almost seems like the democratic party has become the party of -- kind of like the hitler's youth. i can see the day where there were -- where there will be book burnings. also, it's, you can't get straight news anymore. there is no walter cronkite anymore. you have to listen to both sides

and come up with the truth somewhere in the middle. don't know if you have noticed that yourself or not, but there is no just the fact. you either get an opinion from cnn or you get an opinion from fox. that is why i watch c-span. host: thanks for watching. the president retweeting this -- host: that from cheryl atkinson. david is joining us, our last call in this first hour from denison, texas. * caller: good morning -- caller: good morning. the vast majority of the media is markedly anti-trump.

, overrump supporters now the course of the last two and a half years, it has gone from people accusing donald trump of being certain things to basically all the media labeling trump supporters as being -- if you vote for donald trump you are a racist, you are a fascist, you are all these things, you like hitler's, the concentration camps, all the terms and things associated with fascism. , like castroublic did, there is no argument, they can't argue with a trump supporter about policy. way.label everyone this and if you are labeled as a despicable character like a nazi , of course it is going to enable the other side

to threaten violence and threaten firing you. it is happening all the time now. obviously then, those of us who are trump supporters. i would be glad to wear my hat in public, it does not mean i can't have eyes behind my head for some crazed person who has listened to these lies about associating us with these pejorative labels because they don't have a policy argument. all they have our names and shames -- are names and james. i have a client into vada who is a lawyer and he says he goes into meetings and they are always bashing trump and he says he joins writing with them because he knows if he says anything, it is going to have an effect on the business. i can't remember any reports of anybody being fired nationwide because they supported hillary

clinton. there are all kinds of reports of people having their jobs and careers affected by supporting donald trump and it's not about supporting donald trump, it's about supporting america. look at what has happened with the idea -- the left has taken thing so far that if you try and proclaim you are american, then that in and of itself means you must be a racist because slavery existed in america. slavery existed around the world at the time. that was the nature of things. host: we have to stop you because we are running short on time. do you have a final quick point? caller: the point is, if we could have policy discussions which gets back into the fellow newsnt about the news, the outlets out there can't report the news. everything has to be how can we tilt this to make some negative comment about donald trump, take something out of context and make everything negative about

donald trump and all of his supporters because they must be knuckle dragging more months. the can't possibly be sophisticated and understand how wonderful our left-wing ideas are even though they fail every corner of the world. the conversation continues. henry olsen is here, joining us in just a moment. he is from the ethics and policy center and has written a book about the republicans and the future of conservatives and reagan blue-collar republicans. in our final hour, it was three days of peace in music. nearly half a million young people making their way to a dairy farm 50 miles from new york city. it was known as woodstock. later we will talk with university of kansas history professor david farber about that iconic music festival and the counterculture of the 1960's. first a reminder, the newspaper -- the newsmakers program follows "washington journal" and the president for the -- we

asked about the cause of the recent stock market volatility and the impact on the president's trade policies. here is a portioned -- portion. [video clip] >> what is causing a lot of that volatility in the marketplace is the president's strategy with china has required we impose significant tariffs on china and those are ultimately a cost to the american people. thate point he articulated we are doing well now so let me use this tool. i understand the tariffs may be a drag on the economy but now is the time to do it because in the end we will get a better trade agreement and both sides will benefit. >> has any tried to have it both ways? he delayed and limiting some tariffs saying he did not want the consumers to have to pay them? >> right. recognizinging -- that the tariffs are a drag on

economic growth. not as significant as other things could be like higher taxes or more regulation. the it really means is window is narrowing for when we have to get the new trade agreement. you that happens, i think will see a boost to economic growth, sustaining the cycle we are in for a number of years because you've got certainty in the world economy about trade with the united states. i am confident the president is able to deliver on that. it has taken time. the chinese basically called him on it and said we think you have to have an agreement in name but we don't have to give you any substantive concessions and trump called unalterable. he said he will not just sign an

agreement that means nothing in reality. there has to be a real concession. china by the way is hurting worse than the united states. they are more patient, very dictatorship and can last through the next election cycle but it is also possible they could see it as a win-win to meet us partway. the united you say states is winning the trade work? guest: the fact that it is on the table that china needs to consider accepting alike -- intellectual property rights and changing some of their fundamental business models. they are saying no right now but it is clearly on the table for something they will have to concede on. that is a win. we are swiveling the middle of the back and forth on the negotiation. there is no clear winner but the possibility of getting a very good trade agreement is still there. host: david mcintosh is the

president of club for growth and he is our guest on newsmakers. it airs at 10:00 eastern following "washington journal you can also listen to it -- "washington journal." you can also listen to it free on the c-span radio app. we want to welcome back henry olson, author of the book, the working class republican and the return of blue-collar conservativism. good sunday morning and thanks for being with us. we have been talking about whether or not there is a stigma with donald trump supporters. is there? guest: definitely, particularly among higher educated people. if you say you are a trump supporter, you are considered to -- whend i think it is we we can see this is the gap between trump reelect numbers and we know from the past provincial elections that a president will get within 1% of his job approval rating but

there were all these polls out saying there are a lot of people who say approve of trump's job but i am not on board with him. they are going to vote for him. they approve of his job and they will vote for him. that is a sign of the stigma. host: are you worried about a looming recession? guest: anybody should be concerned. worried is another word. i am not worried about it. if there is a recession about six months out, president trump's chances of reelection dropped considerably but what is also clear is that slowdowns that take place during the election year don't affect the reelect numbers. what happens is people set their eyes on the -- on the economy about six to eight months out and things are looking good then, they figure things will get better by the end. host: your assessment of the president's two and a half years into this administration is what? guest: in policy or as a politician? host: both. guest: and policy his -- he has

move the needle a lot more than his critics would suggest. taking on china. i just saw a recent number from pew research said america's views of china are the most unfavorable and over a decade and that has a lot to do with the president pointing out there military expansionism and cheating on trade deals. immigration is something where people have been moving in the president's direction. approval forority the wall but it is better than it was two years ago. he has consolidated his supporters and has reassured many conservative republicans that he was not going to govern like a democrat but he remains a hugely divisive figure. this is a president that should be having no trouble winning reelection and instead he has a 50-50 shot and that is a measure of both his success as a politician but ultimately his failure. ast: let me turn to newsweek.com article about a fox

news poll where the president stands right now. the latest fox news poll shows in the 2020 race that donald trump is in trouble against every democratic challenger including joe biden, kamala harris, elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. 49% of registered voters supporting him in his reelection bid. the three liberal senators have more support, winning over trump at 48%. it was the former vice president who would beat president trump by the widest margin in a hypothetical head-to-head match according to the polls. 50% for biden, 38% for donald trump. before election day so much can happen but if you look at this poll, a snapshot in august, it tells you what? guest: what it tells me is the stigma. that same poll had trump at 43% job approval rating.

imagination that 10% of the people who think donald trump is doing a good job won't vote for him. that shows that there are people who want to think that they may not vote for him or are afraid to tell pollsters they won't vote for him but they will in the end. we know what their behavior is going to be. those margins on the head-to-head are exaggerated. let's remember that because of trump's coalition, he does not need to win the popular vote. when he needs to do is lose the popular vote by four points or less. if he gets 47% of the vote nationally, he will almost certainly get 50% more in enough states to win the electoral college. not winning the popular vote but the electoral college. host: to that point, a political reporter said he could lose pennsylvania, wisconsin, winning everything else in 2016 and be reelected. think winning

wisconsin and losing michigan is a better shot for trump but that is exactly what i think. i have written on the washington ift, the same argument that you take a look at the 2018 exit he is moren that popular in certain states then nationally, if trump is at 46% job approval on election day, he will be at 50% or above in enough states to win enough electoral votes. he could lose pennsylvania and michigan and he will run the table and get 270 electoral votes. host: david mcintosh is the former congressman and the president for the club for growth, talking about where the republican party is as the debt and deficit continues to grow. it is growing at a faster rate under president trump. [video clip] >> you put the responsibility on

the part of publicans and the house and senate but there are also republicans in the white house. to what do you attribute this change in attitude towards deficit spending other than the fact that republicans were against it when there was a democratic president and now therefore it when there is a republican president? >> there are a couple dynamics to go into it. the omb is still very much a deficit farm. they work very hard to keep that lower. i think with the president's encouragement and improved -- and approval. ,ou have the big spenders particularly in the senate, the appropriators on the republican side are happy to spend larger amounts. they think it is good politics and they don't mind that some of the money goes to democratic causes and some of it goes to theirs. you also have a complicating dynamic among republicans right now where defense hawks have basically made a deal for about five years now with the

democrats. if you let us increase the defense spending to where we think it should be, we will sign on to your domestic spending and basically let you decide where that goes and what it's for. that second-half cuts against everything they campaigned on, reducing welfare, the size of government but their goal of having a strong robust defense department lets them trump that and sign up for these big spending bills. host: as you hear those comments by david mcintosh, the u.s. trillion,ebt at $22.5 the cost per taxpayer nearly $183,000. in her interview with the president, he said if reelected, he would begin to cut the debt and the deficit but he did promise to balance the budget in the first four years and has not done that. guest: the debt and deficit problems are horrendous and get worse. the fact that we are borrowing nearly 5% of gdp when we are neither at war or a cold war and

we are in a massive fiscal economic expansion is historic. they need to be addressed. that said, i think political reality is the case that you can't deal with that without significant tax increases and if the president were to lead on this issue in the event of reelection, he would have to do so in a way that ronald reagan did, with social security which is to convene a bipartisan commission with people of goodwill on both sides willing to give a little in order to get a little. whether the conservative wing -- cares enough to increase the tax burden on some of their constituents. host: why is that so hard? why can't republicans say maybe we need to raise taxes and maybe democrats say we cut spending to reduce the debt? guest: it is hard because neither side's moderates want to buck each side's extremists. let's go back to the commission

eight years ago. the moderate majority of the a taxsion hammered out revenues up and spending down deal but the left-wing numbers of -- members of the commission vetoed it and the right wing neithervetoed it and speaker boehner nor the president was willing to expand political capital to push the deal through. the president is in a difficult position. he has always seen himself as a person who could broker-deals and i think he also has capital with the right that speaker boehner didn't and if you were to reach an agreement, he would expend political capital to bring conservatives on board. host: the republicans had the white house, the house and the senate the first two years and they didn't do it. guest: the president felt he was in a position to push that sort of deal immediately. i don't think the democrats were in a position to deal. under senate rules unless you were going to do this through some sort of reconciliation, you need to have democratic support,

politically if you are going to make significant cuts to domestic spending. i think if president trump were reelected, they might see differently than they do now, when all of their belief is that the president is a one term president. host: you predicted the election was going to be a lot closer. back to if you look deeply at the numbers. there was a hidden trump support, a reluctant trump support and that is still going to be there now. the site -- despite the polls it is a coin flip whether he wins reelection. see where itd to is likelier he will go up out of a recession. host: our phone lines are open, we want to hear from you. democrats, (202)-748-8000. if you are a republican, (202)-748-8001. our line for independents,

(202)-748-8002. we also welcome our viewers on the bbc parliament channel and those listening on potus channel 144 or c-span radio. demetrius joins us from tennessee, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? i am good. as an african-american woman, with options in my gene pool possibly to african-american men , i cannot say i support trump even though i am in a second-class tax bracket. as far ase things sayging laws, suffice it to , stopping mexican-americans and illegals coming, that has opened for my meant to

be able to get jobs because they are not bought out by these illegals. it is sad to say. as an african-american woman, i cannot tell my friends that i support this even though i am an independent. , think what trump does regardless of how he carries himself, people on all levels are afraid to say what he is doing is revolutionary. host: thank you for the call. guest: there are a lot of people in the boat who are afraid to talk about things they like and recognizing things they don't like about the president. they think it is difficult for people of color to express those sentiments. in the privacy of the voting booth, some of those people do come around and end up supporting the president. it is one of the reasons why despite all the predictions, the exit polls show donald trump at a higher share of the hispanic vote then mitt romney did.

that's because when you are in private, you will do things differently than when you fear stigma. host: do you want to predict the democratic nominee or is it too early? guest: it is way too early. i would be surprised if it is not one of the top four people right now. at this stage of the game it is pretty unlikely that somebody who is pulling 2% or 3% will be the nominee although they could easily become the vice president shall nominee. it is really a question of how much power to the progressive activists have within the democratic party? can they convince people in the middle who share some of their views but not necessarily their fervor to take a chance on one of their favorites and if they can, they might be able to nominate elizabeth warren or bernie sanders but if they can't, it will almost certainly be vice president biden. your book, the return of

blue-collar conservativism. why were the reagan democrats so pivotal to his success in the 1980's and subsequent elections either going for barack obama or donald trump? guest: the reagan democrat in 1980 was a working class noncollege educated person who was not a traditional republican voter and at that time there were the largest segment in the american electorate by far. much fewer people of color, many fewer college-educated people. reagan, by converting a number of them into being republicans for the first time in their lives, changed the american political scene. thatve talked a lot about group's demise but the fact is they are still one of the largest groups in the american electorate and they are strategically placed in the midwest. they are the dominant political faction in every state that

touches the great lakes and donald trump captured that class and that is why he was able to win the electoral college without winning the popular vote and that is why he can win again. they are large, they have distinct issues. trump touches all of those issues and they are strategically located in the place that will swing the electoral college. host: in 1980, what was a bigger factor in jimmy carter's defeat? party or aemocratic weak economy? guest: i would say a weak economy. ultimately the left-wing challenge to jimmy carter was consolidated and the ended up just liking reagan -- disliking reagan more than they dislike carter. that mass middle working class democrat who no longer trust of the national democratic party, who voted for carter in 76 expecting change and instead getting a liberal democrat, what they had not

bargained for. reagan was not the typical republican, i called him a new deal publican, someone who could quote and embrace franklin roosevelt's legacy even has the interpreted -- even as he interpreted it differently. he was complete credible and that is why reagan could win by almost 10 points. host: our caller outside of buffalo, new york. caller: you know your geography well. just outside of buffalo. ask your guest this question. with thebably familiar harvard university study that showed -- many people thought it was a well done deep study, that wased the mainstream media biased against trump. question if i could with the previous program and

that portion of the question onates to, i understand that c-span, some people were saying there is a bias. areboard members of c-span the cable tv industry and the harvard study showed that it -- that if it is accurate, that very industry that sits on the board of c-span was biased against trump and their coverage -- in their coverage. c-spanre can we say that or can we say that the board members of c-span when they entered the board room, do they check their bias at the door, or is that reflected in the c-span policy overall? guest: i have always found c-span to be completely neutral in their coverage. c-spant majority of coverage is cameras without commentary less you are

suggesting c-span is sending cameras to anti-trump rallies and not the pro-trump committee hearings and that would be difficult to demonstrate any form of bias. i am on the show but i have never been invited onto msnbc. with respect to the larger question on the media, it is quite clear that the tender of the media is harshly negative in a way that would be fickle to explain any other way than bias. -- theporters overwhelming tenor is to a degree i have never seen a my lifetime. dented trump's support, using negative bias in britain where most of the leading publications and the bbc are harshly against brexit but nevertheless, the people who

support brexit continue to support brexit. people have a way of tuning things out that they know are not being fair. consequently, a lot of what is going on in the media is preaching to the converted people who already agree with them and consequently has a lot less effect on the overall election. host: let me just add the board members are listed on our website because we are a completely transparent company. the board members are basically those who follow the business operations of this network but they have had zero influence, never once has anyone from the board of directors or any of the cable owners come to c-span and said you must cover it this way or you must raise the -- phrase the question that way or you can't cover this event or you must cover this event. we transparent company and we do not have an agenda and we don't get an agenda for many of the board members who basically help us operate this company very efficiently.

to rob in new york. that is snow country although there is no snow right now. caller: i want to thank you for taking my call and i want to let you guys know that president trump is going to win the 2020 election. i am proud to say that i have been a republican fan of his for years and i think he is a heck of a good president and he is doing the right thing and these democrats are so scared of what is going on with him but they are going to get to the corruption in the democratic party and eventually we're going to get this country back on track and back to the way it should be and i am proud of him going after these immigrants, trying to stop them from coming in and taking jobs and homes and everything else away from the people who really need them in the united states.

i want to thank you for taking thesel and i wished democrats would straighten up and act like democrats instead of babies, and grow up. and ify do is bash him joe biden is the one who gets the nomination to run for his party, he has a lot of dirty diapers just like hillary clinton and they should start investigating him and see what they find out. you have a nice morning. guest: i was in plattsburgh a couple weeks ago. , a ruralclinton county county on lake champlain and this is the sort of place that voted for president obama twice, that swung strongly in favor of president trump and i would be very surprised if president trump did not win clinton county and the surrounding counties again because these are the sort of places populated by the reagan democrat who liked what they see in president trump and

president trump is not devoted -- has not disappointed the voters who backed him the first time. host: he heads back to the white house later this afternoon. journalism has reached a new low in the history of our country, nothing more than people propaganda machines for the democratic party. the reporting is so false, biased and people that is -- that it has now become a very sick joke that the public is aware. the president has a way with words and he knows how to use additives to their full power. a lot of things that are correct, there are also a number of things that have been demonstrated on close inspection to be less than correct and that is something that is damaging ce major television stations' numbers ofwith large

the american people and that is something that journalistic leaders ought to take a look at and seek to rectify. host: the president taking aim at the new york times calling it the failing new york times in a tweet this morning, in one of the most devastating portrayals of bad journalism, got caught by a leaker that they are shifting from their phoning thought -- phony russian collusion story to a racism witchhunt. let's go to jenny on the democrats line. thank you for waiting. caller: good morning. my name is actually kenny. commentanted to make a that i used to be a fan of donald trump when i first met and heen i first saw him was on the donahue show but he fooled me. he divorced his first wife and i thought he was a real family man but then when he divorced his first wife, i noticed he wasn't

and i'm going to go out on a limb and say that the democratic nominees will be beto o'rourke and amy klobuchar. that is who i think will be the democratic nominees. thank you for c-span. host: thank you for the call. joseph on the republican line. what is on your mind? caller: good morning. i voted for president trump the last time and i'm going to vote for him again. the primary reason i did that is the supreme court. i believe he has a filled his promises with respect to the supreme court. if reelected, he may have an opportunity to nominate another conservative judge. i offer own -- no ill will as far as judge ginsburg but given her age and her health, she may not be around the next three or four years and he would have an opportunity to elect another

conservative judge to the supreme court. if he does that, there is a good possibility that roe v. wade will be overturned and when that happens, he will go down as a saint. host: thank you for the call. what are you hearing? guest: i am hearing a surprising degree of support the president. often times when you mention the president, it seems to me that the opponents of the president are most energized and flocked to get their views across. i have not heard anyone yet who is calling and saying how much of a demon or insert your expletive the president it it -- the president is and that is unusual for public expression. i think it demonstrates that people have what they believed to be a safe space to express and support for the president moves up significantly. that is what gives him a

fighting 50 chance to be reelected. host: we are reading these tweets in real time. the president is up early and watching cable news including this network. he says with all of the -- all that this administration has accomplished, think what my poll numbers would be if we had an honest media, which we do not. , youne for independents are on with henry olson. good morning. caller: good morning to both of you gentlemen and all of your listeners. i would just like to start by saying i think we are not going , i amld a go by the polls learning they are more of a tool to try and sway people's votes and we can't really -- they're going to be kind of off like they were for the 2016 but in my opinion, i think we've got -- there were two things that democrats have in their favor,

one is that it does appear that a lot of the mainstream media is working more on their behalf and i think the thing that has yet to be determined that might hurt him is this socialist bent that they have. i don't know how many democrats out here in this part of the country will stick with them when they are going so hard to the left, and our president, i think he's got the economy in his favor. i also think the thing you have to be determined on him is -- will be his inability to soundlish some good immigration control on our isder and whether his base going to look at the economy and stay true, more on that even though they think maybe mitch mcconnell and paul ryan kind of

done us dirty on that and pulled the wool over his eyes. host: we will get a response. generally polls are accurate but there is a slight underestimation of republican and trump support. we saw in 2018 when all the theic polls in iowa showed republican incumbent was going to lose the governor's race and she won by three points. the polls showed that the republican candidate running in michigan was going to lose big and he lost by only five or six points. something as about close as this election is going to be, if you are off by a point or so, that means you are off by two and a half points on the margin and that can be the difference between calling the

election or not. polling is going through problems worldwide because people are no longer picking up their phones and that means that pollsters are trying to account for that by something called , taking theeighting un-accurate responses and weighting them to correct demographics and that means there is a lot more guesswork and that they guess wrong or the subgroup is weighted inaccurate, it means we underestimate one side or the other. australia's whole polling industry missed the conservative -- pollsters mid -- missed brexit and the new haven general election. this is a worldwide phenomenon because of changing media habits and changing trusts. it is not a bias or intention but it is very real. host: is the republican party

the party of trump? guest: it is in that trump represents the majority republican viewpoint. represent andve to him as changing the republican party. my view is that trump was nominated because he reflected the republican party. it was the hyper conservative elites or the chamber of get along business republicans were out of step with their voters and trump reflected that. consequently, where trump was out of step with republican sentiment has moved. he was not ardently pro-religious, coming down the escalator in trump tower but he is now and that brings along the large evangelical social conservative faction. he was not ardently pro-tax cut but he adopted that aspect and that brought along many fiscal conservatives.

the republican party and looked back toward your priorities in 2015, pretty much everybody's number two issue has been either accomplished or is a priority for this president. he reflects the republican party rather than having transformed the party. host: our guest is a senior fellow at the ethics and public policy center. we will get back to your calls in just a moment. this is a tweet from our friends at american history tv. coming up we will turn our attention to woodstock. david farber is going to be joining us. when i say woodstock, what comes to your mind? guest: i was seven, almost eight when woodstock took place. what comes to mind is the character woodstock in peanuts which charles schulz adopted to be topical afterwards. representedthink the tip of the spear of the

cultural challenge to free modern america. counterculture is now the culture. that is something that has had enormous impact on american life and continues to divide the parties. host: let's get back to your phone calls. a reminder to tune in on c-span3's american history tv as we look back at woodstock. philip has been patient from los angeles, republican line. caller: good morning. host: you are on the air. caller: i would like to comment that in california you have to hide the -- the fact that you are a trump supporter. the fact of trump support for israel and all he has done and how the democratic party has switched so far to the left that they have alienated a large group of people that would normally vote democratic and i would like to comment also that trump is done in the -- done it

from a this amount of help with the onlyl contract and way that southern california can really help trump is by donating. thank you very much. i appreciate your input. host: this is the headline from the new york times. israel's strong embrace of trump is hammering a wedge among u.s. use. what is happening based on the caller? guest: israel as a country that is highly divided, much more in the same -- much in the same ways that we are. the majority of israeli -- of in favor of trump coalitions, smaller governments and religious revivals. done is boths reflect and embrace the majority views of the israeli public and they love him there. he comes out to be highly popular in polls of israeli

juice and to that extension highly popular in polls of israeli jews. it is global. and then you combine that with the democratic party is now divided that there is pew data showing that the more progressive wing is roughly split between favoring the palestinian cause over the israeli or jewish cause. that causes disputes. the center of the democratic party is still very much pro-israel. you saw in the proposed visits omar andnd to leave -- to lieb -- and talib. it creates tension. who do you vote for because if you are somebody who is in the

democratic party, you need to make peace with these people who strongly oppose you on the question of policy towards israel and that is going to make a lot of americans use very uncomfortable -- american juice very uncomfortable -- american --e jun american jews. host: let's go to mike, independent line from cleveland, ohio. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my calls. i would like to ask your guest how blue-collar conservativism has actually helped the middle working class. i am 56 years old, growing up a majority of americans were anyone income home with benefits and since then, it has become a two income home to achieve that level of success for lack of a better word.

in the past 50 years, our taxes have gone up. we have had to pay for social security, et cetera. for ourhad to pay more benefits including health care. we have also gone through three presidents who touted trickle-down economics as a way of getting more money to the middle class. you had just called for raising taxes when we had a giant tax cut. how does this reagan blue-collar conservativism help the middle class? guest: that is an excellent question. the republican party largely abandoned reagan blue-collar conservativism after he left office. i don't think the first bush endorsed that view or the second bush. i think donald trump is the first person to try and implement some of those ideas and he is doing those from airily on things that most hammer the working class the last 20 years which is competition from foreigners,

whether or not they are coming into the country illegally with respect immigration or whether with respect to jobs being shipped out to countries like china and i think the president is trying to fight for the protection of working americans which frankly is what ronald reagan did. ronald reagan is some but slapped tariffs on japan four times to prevent them from manipulative rules to take jobs unfairly away from american workers. legacy the real reagan that today's hyper conservatives and free marketeers don't want to admit was part of his political and economic appeal. a global been consensus between centerleft and center-right to pursue global economic growth at the expense of income growth for the working class in their own citizens. oris the clinton third way bush's compassion to

conservativism and that is true throughout the world and it has led to a decline or stagnation of living standards for working-class nativeborn people throughout the developed world and that is one of the big reasons we have the populist revolution that we have had both here and in most countries of the developed world, people are mad and they don't want to take it anymore. host: you mentioned the immigration issue. i want to show an ad released by one of the democratic candidates, holy and castro -- julian castro. [video clip] >> president trump. you referred to countries as [bleep]holes. you called immigrants rapists. paso, peopleel were killed because you stoke the fire of racists. innocent people were shot down because they look different from you, because they look like me, my family. words have consequences.

host: your reaction. guest: that is what left-wing democrats believe, that is what he is pushing for. he needs to break out of the 2% polling that he is at. he is targeting a segment of the primary electorate that believes that. words do have consequences, calling people racist or fascist . those have consequences as well and i think if we want to cool the temperatures down in this country and find some unity, it would require people on all sides to calm down the rhetoric. host: including the president? guest: i think the president sometimes says things are in -- that are not wise. host: let's go to donna, republican line. caller: good morning.

i am a fiscal conservative republican. [indiscernible] i don't like many of the things that he says. i think my friends who are also of strong faith and thought they --e left behind [indiscernible] i cannot support him. i think the republican party would be good to try to get education. [indiscernible]

you. host: thank you donna. do you see any scenario in which donald trump drops out of his own reelection effort? guest: you mean besides health? man, one3-year-old never knows what is going on inside his body. his age could have a health problem. host: but beyond that? guest: beyond that, this man fights. he is convinced he has a good shot to win. awaynot see him walking from the presidency at this stage for any reason other than health. host: i asked that because anthony scaramucci who was a one-time trump supporter and former committee occasions director now says his theory is that donald trump will not seek reelection next year. much of don't know how an inside scoop mooch has these

days. i wondered that about a year ago, whether or not he would declare victory and go home, that he has transformed america but i think in order to do that in his own mind, he would have to have new trade deals, he would have to have something important on the foreign policy front. i think you would need to have -- but thereished is no indication he is going to get any of those things with the possible exception that we will have a peace deal by the end of the year and that troops will be coming home from afghanistan. host: we are scheduled to talk to anthony scaramucci tomorrow on c-span radio. you can listen on the free c-span radio app. tomorrow to find out what anthony scaramucci is thinking. jeremiah and alabama, good morning. caller: good morning -- in alabama, good morning.

caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i am not a party person, i am an issue person. this is what concerns me. i do support president trump and some of the issues. one he is doing about immigration. people coming into the country. there is a whole lot of negative withcussions associated that and i support what he is doing. when women bring children into this country and put their children in peril and we blame the president, they should be looking at them. illegals trying to get into this country and getting on social programs. i pay taxes.

a lot of this money goes to the federal government and to see the social programs that we have, it is appalling to me. people should come in the legal way and we should have an economic equal number of educated people to come in as well. we are not a country that will not help but i do not enable people and the democrats do. i believe we will give people a helping hand and then after that they are on their own. i don't like the social programs that the democrats advocate. i am of than the air on which way i will vote but i like the president -- i would like the president to tone down the rhetoric. host: based on a quinnipiac

ofversity poll, 91% republicans say they do not think president trump is racist. 8% say they do. 86% of democrats say he is a racist. 9% say he is not. voters, 67%ndent say he is a racist and 36% say he is not. guest: that is pretty much in line. if you take a look underneath the job group -- job approval ratings that say 44%, you can see 90 something percent of double cans in his camp and 90 something percent of democrats not in his camp. people are viewing those charges exclusively through the lens of partisanship and their pre-existing opinion of president trump. host: paul from new jersey, republican line. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i just wanted to talk about the media bias against trump. msnbcme you put on cnn or

, it is always negative trump, negative trump. network thation or is pro-trump or maybe just neutral to trump's fox news. besides that, everything you get on the media is negative trump and it is an absolute joke. thank you for taking my call. host: the president tweeting about that as well, blaming the media for the poll numbers. the president could be improving his poll numbers by the -- by behaving differently. if the president had spent the last six months pushing the sort of things he pushed in his state of the union address. if he resisted the urge to combat every attempt to bait him into a response on twitter, i think he would have 3% higher

job approval ratings and he would be the clear favorite for reelection. certainly anytime he says something or makes a mistake, it is amplified one hundredfold by the media of the fact is he could be doing things that would be helping him that he is not doing and if you were to start doing them now, there is still time for him to move into the position where he would be a lock for reelection. falters, is economy he setting up jerome powell to be up the fall guy? guest: he may think that way but the people will lame the person at the top. if the economy falters the people will blame the president as they always have and any attempt to blame chairman powell will not be politically effective. host: john kennedy once said when the economy is strong it has many fathers but when the economy is weak, everyone blames the president. our next caller, good morning. caller: good morning.

your guest did not answer the question about what the republican party done for the middle class. he talked about everything around the world, but for the middle class and the poor, you take west virginia and mississippi for example. the poorest two in the state in the country. republicans have not done anything. they will be poor and will remain poor. republican party done for the working class citizen in america because automation is taking the jobs that we used to have, not illegals coming in, it has been automation. host: a chance for him to respond. guest: the question i was responding to was about blue-collar conservativism and my argument was that the republican party abandoned it after ronald reagan. i would agree that whereas west

virginia's economic decline is largely the result of the decline of coal and that is something that republicans have not done a lot to address but it is also exacerbated by the climate policies of the democratic party. mississippi has always been relatively poor and it is again the question that the public and party should have been doing more. it is not like when the democrats are in power that mississippi suddenly becomes rich. there was a real problem with the working class, people who work on their feet or with their hands and don't have college educations. there is a real problem with wages and benefits for this group of people. it has been going on for at least 20 years in some segments of the economy. i think the democratic party has been blind to it and i think the republican party has been blind to it. the republican in order to become a majority party needs to stop being blind to it and do

things proactively to increase wages and bring jobs home to america that pay decent wages and otherwise intervene in the free market economy so we can have social stability that we require and that requires some degree of economic sufficiency were people who work with their hands or on their feet. tennessee, from republican line here with henry olson in washington. caller: i would like to thank c-span for having someone that supports president trump on the tv. the reason i like president trump is because he sounds just the number one of one issues is immigration. two is china. he is taking both of those on and i think it is kind of refreshing to have someone that

-- president trump is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. all i can say is elect donald trump 2020. host: thanks for the call. guest: byron is a good example of the republican electorate. those ideas preexisted before president trump. republicans want to control the immigration issue before president trump. they wanted to take on china and other overseas competitors that were outbidding american firms for american jobs and the rest of the republican field did not want to take on both of those issues. donald trump made them his signature issues the moment he came down the escalator. he is the person who reflects what americans want, not the person who calls on american wants. host: if you could sit down and

give the president one piece of advice, what would it be? guest: be kinder. speaks in anident inclusive way the way he did in the state of the union address. when he speaks in a way that seeks to put partisan division peopleus, he attracts who are interested in his message but are repelled by his combative personality. if he were to be grandpa trump rather than boxer trump, at think he would be a lock for reelection -- i think he would be a lock for reelection. host: do you think he can work with speaker pelosi, leader mcconnell and leader schumer if he is reelected? andt: if he is reelected not with just a minority, i think they would see that this man has staying power and it think then he would have to adapt a little bit. in victory,id

magnanimity -- if donald trump adopted that approach where there would be a large segment of democrats who would want to make peace with him. i think the republican party would be happy to fall in line. host: author and senior fellow henry olson, thanks for coming back. was 50 years ago this weekend. an iconic weekend known as woodstock. it took place in bethel, new york. for the next hour on washington c-span3, welive on will look back and exactly what happened and why in the legacy of woodstock 50 years later.

join us is david farber. he is joining us from the university of kansas. abc newsre is how covered the massive crowd that shutdown at town not far from new york city. the townspeople were terrified at the prospect of the hippie arrival. something happened, residents freely emptied their cupboards for the kids.

merchants were stunned by their politeness. >> they are polite kids. they were happy here. >> i think they are a wonderful group of kids. they were patient and courteous and understanding. >> there was a great deal of apprehension. >> there was a lot of inconvenience. >> because much of the press inerage was so jaundiced what happened, not many people would've learned what monticello learned. peopleere 450,000 young here. there were no conveniences, no violence.

host: abc news coverage from 1969. joining us from lawrence, kansas is lawrence farber. we appreciate you being with us. let's talk about what happened in ethel, pennsylvania. what was woodstock? >> it was a surprise to the entire nation. it started one way and ended in a very different way. ofstarted as three days peace and music with some of the biggest names in rock 'n roll. quiteme something different, a free concert in showedome 450,000 people up, almost all of them young

people who had to make do with what they had, who triumphed over rain, lack of food, had an amazing time and show the nation what young people are capable of. host: why was the dairy farm selected for the site? farm in newdairy york was not supposed to be what was happening. it was first going to be up in the woodstock area. then it was going to be not far from what stock. townspeople decried what was happening. with less than a month to go, the dairy farmer said he would let them use his farm. with one month ago, i had to the , andhe stage, sound system a spontaneous way, they created the music festival. host: what are the neighbors think of him? guest: a lot of people in that

the sanity were not sure what to make of what was going to happen. most of the townspeople were won over. we will get to your calls in just one minute. on what happened when stock, a place to became one of the iconic moments of the counterculture movement. organizers planned to have it in woodstock, 60 miles northeast of here. woodstock, new york was a bohemian community. a lot of musicians lived there ,ff and on, including bob dylan

richie havens, van morrison. they call the company woodstock ventures. they started looking for a place for the festival. they could not find a place in woodstock that was large enough. they found an industrial park in the town of wallkill. they started advertising. creating art installations and everything was going smoothly. the locals found that what they were doing and it wasn't going to be a 50,000 person festival after all. the town of wallkill rewrote its laws to outlaw the festival. that left woodstock ventures with about four weeks to find another location. when they came to this property, it was a perfect shape, perfect

size for the rock festival they wanted to have. the rest is history. host: the background on woodstock. theou look at the names of people who performed, arlo guthrie, the grateful dead, janis joplin, creedence clearwater revival, jefferson airplane, what rot all of these musicians to this location? all of these musicians to this location. guest: it was an all-star roster. it was a music festival not far from new york city that many thought would be a great launching pan and put them in front of a lot of people. they hoped to make some money performing. signed up musician and it lowered another. there was a snowball effect, a few of the most major names, the stones and the beatles, were not

there. myths by people who think about woodstock is it became a place of violence and disruption. that wasn't the situation, was it? nationwhat surprised the and went against what the mass wasa had been promoting woodstock turned out to be despite some dire conditions and incredibly peaceful assemblage of 400,000 people who figured out how to get along, not let the tensions around, the lack of water and lack of food, they shared what they had. they worked with each other. they made an incredible event that became something they never forgot. host: what is remarkable is how this spread it to nearly half a million people. you can see the crowds in the film was shot. they expected 200,000 people to

travel to bethel, new york. there was no social media, no cell phones. how did word spread about this event? testament to real how the countercultural and use culture were organized at the time. there were no advertisements in the mainstream media. a lot of the word got out through the alternative press. there was an underground press at that point. any college towns had them. they did advertise in those places. it was talked about on fm radio stations. young people had their own media and it worked. word got out far faster and spread wider than promoters ever expected. host: what was the counterculture movement? it did not have

membership cards and there was no roster. different things at the same time by 1969. it was the protest culture, ranging from people seeking racial justice, against the war in the at the environmental movement. they were creating an alternative politics. even more, it was a celebration of alternative values or just america living up to the values it proclaimed. what should it freedom feel like? what does social justice live like? this is what they wanted to build, a different america built on core values. host: for those watching on an oral there is history. who was he? guest: already cornfield was one

of the most important people at putting woodstock together. he was already in his mid-20's. they were all in their mid-20's. he had good connections in the music industry despite his age. he was in for goal to them signing up some of the big names. he had those connections. host: here is part of that oral history as he reflects on what they put together in 1969. guest: the legacy of woodstock in 500 years, they are going to remember the event. top 20ey listed the events of mankind, woodstock was number two. was second to the man landing on the moon. host: as you hear that, what is

your reaction? is right tonk he take pride in what he helped accomplish. we can have an interesting debate about that. 1969, it felt to many americans like an extraordinary event. polarization,of when violence was starting to become the norm. 500,000 younge, people peacefully assembled, trying to do something wonderful. it really did surprise the people who attended and it shared up a lot of americans that young people could gather together like that and create history in a peaceful way. host: we have divided our phone lines. if you attended woodstock, (202) 748-8000. 55 and over and may not have attended but she remember the conversation about

woodstock, (202) 784-8001. all others, (202) 748-8002. what is the most important thing as a historian that we need to understand in regard to what happened in bethel, new york? guest: i think woodstock has remained an important historical event for two reasons. it was a hallmark of music history. if you've seen the movie, if you watched those bands perform, this was incredible event. thate havens played freedom peace. the jimi hendrix star-spangled banner, these are musical moments that will live on and on. it was an event that marked in some ways the coming-out party for the counterculture across america. people knew about hippies in san francisco and the use culture of

music, many were fearful of the drug experiences regarding marijuana and lsd. people saw another side of the counter culture. here were young people who were trying to live different values, who were trying to share and cooperate. this was the best face the counterculture could show america. we have the trailer from the film that was released in 1970. let's watch. >> an incredible film about an incredible event is back. >> can you dig that? >> it's really amazing. an unbelievable thing. >> woodstock, with a cast of

half a million outrageously friendly people. >> it's a dirty mess. >> woodstock, where it all began. host: casey kasem has since passed away. he was an iconic voice of radio. the film came out in 1970. the organizers sold 185,000 tickets. what were the prices? what did they do win half a million showed up? -- when half a million showed up? guest: that's one of the most important things to ponder. it was just supposed to be a music concert. i think it was $18 if you wanted to attend all three days. the audience came from new york in the mid-atlantic area. what the promoters didn't expect

was another 300,000 people showing up. the promoters weren't prepared for those numbers because of the last-minute preparations. they didn't have fencing and ticket booths you would see in a music festival today. people came from all directions. the promoters just didn't even try to collect fees. they announced from the stage that this would be a free concert. there had never been a free concert of this scale. transition from a commercial for-profit concert to a free event where hundreds of thousands of people showed up and had to take care of themselves, that's when woodstock became woodstock. host: let's bring in our viewers. were you there 50 years ago? caller: i was. i was 16 years old.

i was working at a summer camp .rea we all quit and said we are going to woodstock. let me come. i have seen the documentary in the 1980's. noticed inng that i the documentary, it did not grasp the real hold of what was going on. it was a vietnam war protest for the most part. i was kind of disappointed about that. host: we will get a response from our guest. do you remember what you ate and were you slept? caller: peanut butter sandwiches.

people had like it's. we slept right there. host: your response? guest: what bob said about the peanut butter sandwiches rings true. people brought what they could. the larger context is interesting. hallmark of the polarization of the war in vietnam. there were massive demonstrations. fundamentallynot political. abbie hoffman tried to get on stage. the bands in the festival organizers did not treat this as a political event. fundamentally about the war in vietnam, even though that overshadowed what happened. it was a counterpoint to the anger and frustration and fears

many americans had. it was set up as a nonpolitical event. host: and is in charlotte. good morning. c-span.thank you for i have one question. one of my great regrets is i did not make it to woodstock. i had an understanding there was a group called 10 years after and they did a song called going home. i don't think was ever listed. can you clear that up? so askthere were 30 or that performed. -- acts that performed. people get the two things mixed up. forow the grateful dead

reasons that might have had to do with what substances they were ingesting did not sign the waiver to be in the film. some did not get into the documentary film. i don't know the particulars of 10 years after. that's why some favorite bands don't show up in the documentary. host: drugs were prevalent woodstock? the use of drugs were prevalent? guest: yes. of marijuanaot smoked. you only had to be within 100 yards of the stage to get high. marijuana so many joints being passed around. cannabis was omnipresent. it was being shared extensively. there was a famous story about lsd at the concert.

1969, it wasn't something most gun people had ever tried. it was fairly easily available and a lot of people tried it for the first time at woodstock. it was an incredibly powerful hallucinogenic. some people have a hard time with those acid trips. some people had bad experiences. the majority people did not have bad experiences. marijuana was omnipresent the concert. host: the official name was the woodstock music and art fair. we are looking back 50 years later. we have some aerial views of what the area looks like today. there is a wonderful museum, it is wonderfully run and curated. you can come and relive the experience. it is really quite special. host: we will show that to you

in just a minute. you were there 50 years ago? caller: yes, i was. i was 18 years old. new jersey from after work friday night at midnight. we missed friday. that was ok. we wanted to rock 'n roll. ar $18, it was a bargain with star-studded cast of great rock 'n roll acts. we didn't know there would be half a million people there. host: what do you member about trying to get to bethel, new york. the traffic was backed up eight miles to get there. had to our our car on the side of the road. we had to walk for miles on to get to the festival

site. the local people were friendly, giving us water and sandwiches and being very nice to us. host: how did you hear about it? no sociallking about media, where did you get the information about the concert? caller: it was close to new york city. it was advertised and we just want our tickets in advance. host: what are you hearing from his comments? guest: bob's comments ring so true. it's very representative. he was 18 years old and the other caller was 16. you realize how young so many people were. olderwere a few people and a handful of children there. these were really teenagers and people in their early 20's. these were young people who

braved all sorts of bizarre conditions to get there, to figure out how to get do on a jar of peanut butter. they rose to the occasion. they had an incredible time under incredible circumstances. that's a great story bob just told us. host: how old were you when you went to woodstock? caller: 17. host: how did you get there? caller: we drove. me and three other girls. i just remember all the people. the best thing in the world was jimi hendrix playing the star-spangled banner. host: thank you for the call. guest: that's a really nice story. people came from all over the country. some people came from europe. i would bet you all 50 states

were represented. it's marvelous that she remembers jimi hendrix. one of the things that is striking is when you in the film watch him perform and you look people had left by that time. it was early monday morning and the audience was very small. a lot of people say i was there the day this happened. did. she she was from kansas and waited till the last. very few people were in the audience when hendrix did his overwhelming rendition of the star-spangled banner. host: joe from florida, how old were you when you attended woodstock? caller: i was 19 years old.

mustang as far as i could did i lived in new york at the time. correctlyry serves me even though it was only 60 miles north of where i was living, it took eight hours to get to the actual site. i must've parked five miles and walked in the rest of the way. it was a field of mud. there was some great music. the people were just fantastic. i think that was instrumental in forming my political views. people could get along together. there could be love and peace and happiness. i think we could use more of that today. host: is that the message of what stock? love and peace? caller: as far as i recall.

i am 69 today. i'm still something of a hippie. residents ofhe few this retirement village that still has a ponytail. i think the message should resonate today. we don't have to be at odds with each other. i don't want to be political about it. i think that's where our current president is doing his best to undo, to divide us rather than to unite us. host: thank you for the call. thingsone of the other that is really worth thinking about and remembering is most people came to woodstock to hear the music. they were kids, they were interested in youth culture. they didn't come there thinking this will be an incredible

opportunity to live the values that we claim we believed then. it was the actual lived experience of what stock that was transformative. drove most people to come to woodstock. that's what was so transformative. it became visible to the people there. there were immediate coverage showed it. the movie hammered home that message. that is why woodstock lives on in memory. had over one million people show up at a concert one time. it was a lived experience of young people at woodstock. host: tom in new york, good morning. caller: good morning. host: what do you remember about

woodstock? a 1964 i drove up in barracuda. that allowed me to put a mattress in the back of the car. i went up a week earlier to see what was happening at the concert site. there were a lot of people already there. i decided i should go up as early as possible. i got out of work early on friday. i drove up that day. the delaware on the west side. i got to be within one mile of the concert. when i came over the last hill, i got to the intersection where the state police and put up barriers. as far as you could see, the cars were parked five and six deep on both shoulders and both lanes of the highway. everyone got out of their cars and walked into the concert from there.

more food, a few mainly peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. i went back and forth between my car in the concert to change my clothes and eat. host: let me ask you, you mentioned the new york state police troopers. what other infrastructure? where their facilities for bathrooms, places to eat? caller: initially, the workplaces to eat at the back of the concert. you could walk up to the back of the audience and they had vendors there. they all ran out of food quickly. of ported a lot john's. the lines were fairly long. also communes that

had come in from california. feed theups tried to crowd as much as they possibly could with supplies they brought in. some supplies came in by helicopter. the u.s. army in the national guard flew people in and out of the concert like that. if there was a medical emergency , they flew food in. they dropped food into the audience. host: one final question for you, was this a political event or a music event? a musicfor me, it was event. i was a drummer in a rock band of the time. all the clubs in the area, the 21 jersey drinking age was and new york was 18.

a lot of jersey people used to come up to new york. bands a lively group of that played in those clubs. there wasn't a single band that would play that weekend. tom, thanks for sharing your stories with us. memory.e's got a great everything he said helped give us that picture of what things were really like. i want to follow up on the hog farm. that's worthings thinking about is the way the promoters and some of the people they brought in help set the tone and help create the possibility of woodstock working so well. the promoters did not prepare well. there was enough food and water at first. traffic conditions were absurd. they made some really good decisions. they chose to ally themselves

with a wonderful group called groupg farm, a communal later known as wavy gravy. they knew how to take care of other people. these were true counterculture people. they were not members of youth country -- culture that came out of suburbia. they created an alternative world. leaders.was one of the you don't understand woodstock without her story. she knew how to take care of business. she was very practical and thoughtful. even as she lived these outlandish values and virtues that most americans would not consider mainstream, you needed to bring thousands of pounds of oats and other food you could feed lots of people with. the hog farm distributed free

food. nobody paid a nickel for it. hundreds of thousands of people. groups like the hog farm gave substance, tone, create the possibility that woodstock would work. the fog lisa law and heart -- hog farm. we brought in a group called the hog farm. they were a commune. they were used to setting up big outdoor facilities. they did organic gardening. this was the first time anyone had really seen granola. more than what they provided in , there was ant

vibe, if you will. everybody get situated. they welcomed the next group and got them situated. idea of sharing and we were all in this together. i think that's probably what happened. everything had to stretch. host: some more background on that commune. we're hearing from people who were there. jamie from florida, good morning. i was there back in 1969. i caught a ride with six of my friends. they were from atlanta. i was 16 at the time.

at the atlantic city festival. went to where the woodstock festival was going to be held. , it was twothere weeks before the festival started. we started camping out. started tore people come in. that they were going to be taking applications to work for the festival. and the rest of my group went up and we applied for jobs. i worked for food for love. my friend worked security. the things i remember about aboutock was it was more

really gathering the tribes together. people were coming together from all over the world. it wasn't just a group of people from atlanta, people from california or new york. we met people from england, from other countries. we met them from all over the united states. was people coming together. the music was very important. that was the music of our time. meaning to us. it's like they were singing to our souls. one thing that really impressed were people out there who were like me. i believed in love and sharing. hit, nobody was

pushing others away. they were gathering under the plastic they may have had. that's what this country needs. we need to gather together again. it's not about the drugs or sex. it's not about skinny dipping. it's about caring for each other. i am 66 now. i still believe in that. i still believe in loving each andr and gathering together looking upon my brother as equal, not above me or below me. remarkable, that all remember the car they were driving in.

it's an iconic moment they don't forget. do you want to respond? guest: that's a marvelous testimony. it's a remarkable testament. people took's what away. people came from all different corners of the united states, sometimes the only hippie in a small town or the only countercultural list in their suburban community. she used the phrase the gathering of the tribes. of people, a lot of young people around the country wanted that experience, of being with like-minded people and living if only a few days a completely different way of life. not individualistic dog eat dog, this aspirational dream of what it could be like to live in a

very different kind of world. a temporarys autonomous own. it existed out of time in some ways. young people created for themselves. some took it home with them, they tried to live by those values. host: we learned from the style section of the washington post, the bird of peace and the dogs of war in 1970. charles schultz used the name was socked for his iconic bird. -- woodstock for his iconic bird. that's the name he gave the iconic word. jersey, what do you remember? it was the greatest experience when we got there.

i was from brooklyn at the time. everybody in the neighborhood was going. we all caps saying we will see you there. when we got there and we saw the it was the most loving atmosphere you could possibly imagine. host: was this a political event or a music event for you? event for was a music me. i wanted to see janis joplin. hendrix,to see jimi sly and the family stone. it was mostly musical. we rented a cargo van and drove van, not knowing that the windshield wipers didn't work. we were driving in that pouring rain with no windshield wipers. we pulled over on the side of the road. we opened up the back door and we became friends. we saw them afterwards.

it was just a wonderful experience. host: linda, thanks for the call. i have to ask you one question. there has been talk about having an anniversary woodstock. that has not come together. why is it difficult 50 years later? caller: i don't know. i really don't know. would i have gone now? i don't think i would've gone now. i would like to see it on tv. i wouldn't have gone. host: linda, thank you. guest: i think another thing that emerges from the people who , something i think in memory we don't understand about the 60's. a lot of people marched against the war, a lot of people marched against racial injustice.

it was a relatively small minority of the baby boom generation itself. most baby boomers never marched, they never protested. they weren't political people. many baby boomers did feel they were a part of this youth culture, this rebellion that was taking place. that was the politics most people lived. --think host: we lost the signal from david farber. let me go to another caller. you were there? caller: it was more for the music and the politics. i was 15. my friend was 15. my father drove us to the bus station. host: he let you go?

caller: i told them i was going to a jimi hendrix concert upstate. the other two guys told their parents they were going to the other guys house to sleep over. out, he said are you sure you've got enough toilet paper? he must've known what we were doing. he probably knew the whole time. a funny incident that happened up there -- did you tell your dad later? caller: they sought on tv. they said that's where jeff is. host: you were going to tell us a story. go ahead. caller: they had a u-haul van.

pot backre smoking there. when we got up there, we had to walk 17 feet. we had to walk to the site. we stopped at the grocery store. we got a case of schaefer beer. to can heat.ning were buggingadults us for beer. we just took this 10 miles. you should of got what you wanted. were not hurting for money. we work in the concession stand. us forre really bugging the beer. you don't like to be laughing at kids people, 15-year-old have beer and adults couldn't

get their own. the best part was joe cocker. we had never heard of them. we just sat there in all of joe cocker. was the best of everybody that was there. host: i have a question for you. we have a twitter poll. the question is this, did the 1969 woodstock festival will have an impact on culture in america? in a positive way, in a negative way? say anow, a majority positive way. caller: definitely positive. everybody expected a disaster. nothing bad happened. the three of us survived. we woke up sunday morning.

across to the other side, they fed us. they gave us free water. the bathrooms were clean as an you see around baseball stadiums. everybody was nice. host: thank you for the call. his comment on joe caulker is telling. some of the bands were already famous. they were already headline bands. some became famous to a far larger crowd. richie havens was not a well-known figure. santana was not a well-known band.

when santana got up there and played the guitar, they erected and became an iconic figure in the rock scene. for others, it was a validation. for some, it was the best show they ever played. the music did turn on a generation. turned -- did turn people on two bands they did not know before that. host: good morning, john. caller: good morning. host: go ahead with your memory from woodstock. started, itemory was like a spiritual awakening. you can tell by the music how it progressed. music,ted off with full it went into british invasion.

then it went into psychedelic. and talkedaround about the insights they thought they had gotten. that was the power behind this movement. woodstock was the culmination of all of this. it was a signifying moment. i was just married. i had a six-month-old child. i told my wife i was going to go to woodstock. she was against it. i agree with this movement. i've got to go. she let me go. everything we believed in. hip was a word from the 60's

that meant you were right. to be calledey got the hippies. -- insights.nsides stories,we hear the there were other venues, other gatherings in the 1960's. you mentioned the vietnam war and the assassination of dr. king and bobby kennedy. nixon,ction of richard what made woodstock different from the moderate pop festival in 1967 or the newport jazz festival in the summer of 1969? guest: there were other festivals going on. the newport festival had been going on for years. example inerate for 1967, it was a much more

commercial event. it was much more of an industry event. it was much more typical. woodstock was not that. the multi-day aspect of it was not unique, people camping, people having to make do with what they had, created a different cultural milieu. there were others afterward that were related to woodstock. i think that moment in 1969 when people were so hungry for something good and peaceful and something that commemorated the best possibilities, that's what gave it its power. the place it occurred, the time it occurred. the unexpected qualities it brought forth for so many. that made woodstock unique. let's go to dan in

georgia. attended in 1969. i am here today with my friend who was with me in 1969. it.eard about money together and purchased an old ford van. we had to push the thing home. host: you are breaking up a little bit. we got the essence of what you are saying. another reminder of what they were driving. guest: that's another 60's thing. mania company.o you can fix up cars cheap. the volkswagen beetle is such a great car. you could repair the volkswagen

itself. the van became the perfect people mover. cars were integral to the counterculture. it was cheap. somebody probably remembers how much gasoline cost. cheap, it was easy to fix them. there was no computer stuff. the were at the center of counterculture. everybody remembers their vehicles. that was so amazing. host: i want to show some of the headlines. how woodstock was covered 50 years ago. go ahead. caller: i came from a small town. together with the

lifeguard i was working with at the state park. we drove down there. i was just in all. i stayed up on my own energy. it was quite an experience. host: did you think at the time did 50 years later we would still be talking about this then you, this music concert and what happened over three days? caller: i did not. host: thank you for phoning in. we have another woodstock memory from eddie in pennsylvania. go ahead. caller: i was there. i had a good time. it was great. i grew up in new jersey. i went with a friend of mine.

little us in that two-seater car managed to go mile after mile. buddy couldn't drive anymore. it turned out to be 12 miles from the stage. i got to see -- it started to rain on joan baez. we got there about midnight. i remember it well. i had a great time. me and a friend went up friday. i wanted to stand the same spot i was in 50 years ago. up like it isset today. i had a great time. i never forgot it. i wanted to stand in the same spot i was in 50 years ago. they had it kind of closed off. host: did it look the same?

everything,member the lake we slam in, where the stage was. i wanted to stand in the field where i was. i wasn't able to do it. host: it is a historic site as you can see from this marker. this is what it looks like today. what do you think? caller: i'm not looking at the tv right now. i remember it exactly the way it was. it was a field of mud. today, it's a nice landscape field. sign you can see the peace that commemorates the 50th anniversary. how old were you? caller: i was 21 at the time.

we drove from outside detroit. we came in the back way. we did that experience all the traffic that they saw from new york city. that was one of the reasons we went, the music. i remember johnson claire, the activists at the time that was put in jail in michigan. part of the purpose of the concert in the michigan area was it would be a fundraiser to help his legal fund. it was a great time. we got there friday night. we camped. we came in 863 chevy. milemped less than half a from the actual stage. bands, each band came on stage took quite a while to set up. there was quite a bit of time between each concert.

we would go back to our tent. we could hear the music. and sit aroundk and enjoy ourselves when the music started to play. host: thank you for the call. we have time for one more. marsha is joining us from vermont. you get the last word on this. i remember almost everything. we came up with our college friends from newton, massachusetts. we had to leave our car and walk. they took our tickets. i had gone down close to the stage to film because i shot seven rolls of film. movie film.

off the next morning because of the rain. i didn't know they had left. shoes for four days, just my camera bag. most of the music. love andll, it was the andcaring and the sharing hassle in theny midst of a huge, huge crowd. host: we are short on time. thank you to all of those who weighed in with their memories. one of you heard in the last hour? -- what have you heard in the last hour? guest: 50 years later, their

experiences, how aspirational woodstock was for so many. it was a moment in which everything they hoped about the yates and american society, sharing, compassion, equality, freedom, looking at one another as fellow people on this planet, that seems to be the message, at least those people who remember woodstock want us to take with us. i thank them for sharing those memories. i think >> with half a minute left what is important to remember about woodstock? why should we tear 50 years later? >> i think there are those moments in human time when we seem to rise above the everyday and the 1960's are filled with those moments from the great protest marches to the struggles

for greater equality. e 1960's live on because americans try to move past their petty concerns. woodstock became the icon for that for a lot of young people, this moment when they could rise above circumstances and anger and pettiness and create something wonderful even if that wonder only lasted three days but those three days clearly have lived on in the minds of those who were there and i think we all should take stock of woodstock. >> we thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> for those joining us on c-span 3's american history tv, more of the interview from 2014. a look back at the woodstock festival, something he helped to organize 50 years ago. coming up next on c-span 3 american history tv. for those of you watching on

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