,ho should be the next chair and what do you think about the names that have been tossed around? it, i wouldsaid guarantee here she would not get picked. i will not do that. i think there are strong candidates. they have very different views. the knows what the president is going to do. i would like to start the briefing today by addressing a topic i know all of you are preparing to ask me about, and that is tax reform. [laughter] sara: couple of you got it. it will be introduced by the house and wanes committee. it is going to a open process in the house. the committee plans to mark the bill next week starting on monday. the house is likely to consider the bill the week of november 13. in order to stay on pace, we

want to see a house bill passed by thanksgiving. this is a very aggressive timeline, but families and businesses can plan for 2018. we look forward to the details of the tax bill being released on wednesday. i want to take a step back and explain what we want to do. this story has been floating around the internet for a while. it is important to keep in mind that the numbers are not correct. and i'm also not encouraging any drinking. i think you will enjoy. for our purposes, will say reporters go out for beer. the bill for all 10 comes to $100. if these 10 reporters pay their tap every night the way we pay our taxes, it will go something like this. the first would pay nothing very the fifth would pay one dollar, the sixth would pay three dollars, the seventh would pay seven dollars, the eighth would pay $12, and the ninth would pay

$18, and the richest would pay $59. that is what they decided to do. the 10 reporters drink in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until one day, the bar owner threw them a curve ball. sent you are all such good customers, i am going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20. drinks for the 10 reporters will cost just $80. the group wanted to stay -- still pay their bill the way we pay our taxes pay the first forward unaffected. they would drink for free. what about the other six? how could they divide the windfall so everyone would get their fair share? these are the reporters and they are concerned with parents -- fairness. that frombtracted everybody share, than the fifth reporter and the six reporter would each end up being paid to drink beer. so the bar owner suggested it would be fair to reduce each man's percentage. by doing that, they continued

following the principle of the texas and they have been using. he proceeded to work out the amounts that each should pay. so the fifth reporter, like the first or now paid nothing. he got a 100% savings. the sixth now paid two dollars instead of three dollars, a 30 3% savings pay the seventh now paid five dollars instead of seven dollars, a 28% savings. the eight now paid nine dollars instead of 12, a 20% savings. $718,nth paid now $14 and which was a 22% savings. the 10th now paid $49 instead of $59, a 16% savings. each of the six was better off than before, and a first for continue to drink for free. once outside the bar, the reporters compared to her savings. a dollar said the six reporter. she pointed to the 10th reporter and said he got 10. it is unfair that he received 10 times more benefit than me.

why should he get $10 back when i only got two. the wealthy gets all the breaks. wait a minute, yelled the first four in unison, we didn't get anything at all. this new tax system exploits the poor. the non-reporters yelled at the tent and made him feel bad. the next tonight, the 10th man didn't return for drinks. the nine had their beers without him. when it came time to pay the bill, they discover they no longer had enough money between them all to even cover half of the bill. that, ladies and dunnellon -- gentlemen, is how our tax works. taxing them too much and attack them, they might start thinking overseas where the atmosphere is friendlier. this is a silly story, but it illustrates very important points. our tax cuts and reforms will create a fair system that works better for everyone. it will make our country the friendliest in the world for

american families trying to build a better life for their selves and their families and american company seeking a competitive edge. i will be happy to get that story to everyone so you can get the numbers later. annow that may be oversimplification, but i think it paints a very good picture of the tax system. with that i will take your questions. i would like to get white house reaction to the indictment of paul manafort and gates. , we have heard a couple tweets from the president. if you can help me understand, when he says why aren't crooked hillary and dems the focus, is the president saying that special counsel mueller should be investigating hillary clinton and the democrats, and is he going to roll out firing robert mueller? last week, and i have said several times that, there is no intention or plan to make any changes in regards to special counsel.

today's announcement has nothing to do with the president. it has nothing to do with the president's campaign or campaign activity. the real collusion scandal, as we have said before, has everything to do with the clinton campaign, fusion gps, and russia. there is clear evidence of the clinton campaign colluding to smear the president and influence the election. we have been saying from day one there is no evidence of trump-russia collusion and nothing in the indictment changes that today. specifically about the campaign? nothing to do with the campaign, it is his failure to tell the truth. >> [indiscernible] wash: the trump campaign not engaged in these activities paid they took well before the campaign ever even existed. >> can you explain what george

papadopoulos'role was. sarah: it was extremely limited. it was a volunteer position. no activity was ever done in an official capacity on behalf of the campaign. >> what about the outreach acing the campaign officials trying to put together -- sarah: it was repeatedly denied. will not take action on that. >> can you explain with -- what happened with the outreach? sarah: it shows his level of importance in the campaign and it shows what little role he had within coordinating anything officially for the campaign. ask about mr. mueller's investigation. the president has called it a hoax and a witchhunt. last week, you indicated that is believe that mr. mueller

wrapping up his investigation. i have heard similar things coming from administration officials. do you still believe mr. mueller is in the process of wrapping up his investigation? sarah: we still expected to conclude soon. i would like to know what the president's relationship is with them now. do they still talk russian mark sarah: -- talk? sarah: they are not talked in several months. the last conversation was back in february. anything beyond that with paul, i am not sure. was initial contact after the president was sworn in with him at meetings at the white house, but nothing was the president directly. 31, according to the affidavit, he attended a foreign policy meeting and the president

was there. he said that he talked about that russia wanted to talk to the president. what did the president think when they say they wanted to arrange a menace -- meeting, and how did other people in the campaign react to that? sarah: i'm not sure he recalls specific details of the meeting. it was a brief meeting that took place quite some time ago. it was the one time the group ever met. beyond that, i don't have anything to add. >> as you mentioned, mr. manna for an mr. gates were -- manna manafortanna for paul and mr. gates had nothing to do with the campaign but a legend money laundering and other businesses. under those circumstances, with the president consider a rollout pardoning them? not had anye conversations with impaired we should let the process go through before we start looking

at that. referring toos was jeff sessions at the time overseeing foreign policy committee. what does this mean for jeff sessions? on a volunteer committee, i'm that sure how that would concern the attorney general directly. can you say given what we have learned over the last few hours, when the president was first aware that russia was behind the hacking and what they considered to be damaged emails about the claim command that way -- they were trying to get to the trump campaign? when was the first aware of that? sarah: im not sure of the specific date when that took place. -- i am not sure of the specific date when that took place. hiring paulegret manafort?

sarah: he is not worried about it distracting because it is nothing to do with us. this took place outside of the complaint or campaign activities. how can you describe mr. papadopoulos having a limited role when there is a photograph of him sitting at a table with candidate from? sarah: he met with millions of people. >> he was also cited by president trump in a meeting in washington. that seems to go against what you are saying. collusion when george cap at apple us, who is in contact with various people who are promising dirt on hillary clinton, a series of events that closely mirrors what occurred with the president's own son? this individual was a

member of a volunteer advisory council that met one time over the course of a year. he was part of a list that was read out in the washington post i would hardly call that some sort of regular advisor or as you want to push that he is a senior member of the staff. he was not paid by the campaign to you as a volunteer on a council that met once. in regard to the collusion activity, he was pursuing information from russians. sarah: he was a volunteer. you'll have to ask him. the president called on congress to investigate hillary clinton. izzy confident they will -- is he confident they will do that? sarah: you would have to ask congress. there are enough reports and information that suggests it might not be a bad idea.

he has had aif member of congress specifically tell him. >> on tax reform, where does the president stan on corporate tax corporate taxon cuts reaching 20%? idea and heis his has laid out his principles and what they are. that hasn't changed. say george poppet out was had no official capacity and what do you mean by that? sarah: i mean he was a volunteer on the campaign and a volunteer member of an advisory committee that met one time. >> so these activities were his invention. no one asked him to do these things? is that what you are telling him? sarah: i am telling you he was a volunteer of a counsel them at one time. >> there were two episodes that people associate with the campaign with george

papadopoulos as a member of a board. policy sarah: the only interaction i am aware of that deals with this individual was him at reaching out and being repeatedly denied. that is all i can tell you. he asked to do things. he was a sickly pushed back or not responded to. any action that he took would be on his own, and you will have to ask him about that. but he had the same kind of meaning in trump tower. what explains that later those russians getting information about hillary clinton? it is not a pattern of getting information about your

opponent. the big difference is you have a meeting that took lace versus millions of dollars to create fake information to influence the election. when you compare those two, they are apples and oranges per what the clinton campaign and the dnc did was actually exchange money. they took a meeting. they are far different. one is a common practice to take a meeting. the other one is actually paying money to get false information. that is a big difference. >> if i could follow up on the comments, many senior levels have pointed to during the questions about the special counsel. has the white house asked the department of justice to look into this issue? sarah: not that i am aware of. >> can you give us a little bit about mohler's reaction to the --s that swept the nation's the president's reaction to the news that swept the nation. disappointedhe

that paul manna for was charged. manafort was indicted. sarah: it doesn't have anything to do with us. talking about two senior members of the campaign through and including the rnc who were indicted. allegedly conduct that during their work for the campaign. doesn't it speak to the president's judgment that he would choose to have these two individuals in high rolls? sound likemake it they were regular offenders and massive amounts of trouble. paul manafort was brought in to get the delicate process, which he did and was dismissed after that. >> so the president has no regrets? sarah: i didn't ask him that question.

>> you believe the investigation will end soon and you believe .here are more indictments can you try and fight -- are you trying to find out how to implement welfare reform? sarah: we have not made any decisions on welfare reform. they are ongoing conversations, and we are looking at ways to improve the system. believe thatou to this will conclude the investigation? have you been given a heads up? sarah: those are the indications we have at this time. >> indications from where? sarah: i can't go into that any further. i believe the investigation will

conclude soon. i don't have anything to add on that pacific time frame. >> -- specific timeframe. believe pop isl an excellent guide? is an excellent guide? >> the campaign supervisor told him i would encourage you to make the trip to russia. how does that not constitute encouraging? sarah: i'm not aware of that conversation. >> is any concern from the that two people turned out to be prominent?

common --se were these were activities that took part outside of the campaign. the president hired paul manafort to handle the delicate process, which he did, and he was dismissed not too long after that. >> administration allowed undocumented immigrants to abortions. what is the white house reaction to that revision? sarah: i cannot comment on that at this point. i would like to ask you about a different topic. what is the reaction from the white house moving forward about trans-genders in the military?

sarah: the department of justice has that and i will refer you to them for any specific questions. >> a congressman has suggested there's a be an investigation into the grand jury investigation and robert mueller's investigation. you think they are should be an investigation? sarah: we have not asked for that to take place. anytime there is leaking of sensitive information, it should be looked into. president in any way held [indiscernible] sarah: not that i am aware of. doesn't this raise questions about president trump's vetting process and judgment when it comes to bringing on people? sarah: i don't believe so. i have answered that quite a few times today. >> you said the investigation for the special counsel and russian meddling, given what we

learned today, does the president think that is over the bounds? sarah: i have not asked him that question. >> regarding the plea agreement with george papadopoulos. you indicated the president did not remember the meeting. -- i didn'tidn't say he didn't remember the meeting, i said he couldn't remember the details. here members the meeting taken place -- he remembers the meeting taken place. >> does he or member papadopoulos was present? sarah: not that i'm aware of. is your reaction and has the present changed anything? sarah: we are working aggressively on pushing forward on a bold agenda with tax reform and tax cuts.

the economy continues to grow and strengthen. at the same time, these are some of the same polls that also said the president would never be president. i do not have a lot of confidence in them. please clarify if the stock market is moving downward that possibly the corporate rate could change over several years per i wasn't sure that you are trying to make the point that the president would be for or against it. sarah: the president laid out his principal and it does not include the phasing and we are still committed to that moving forward. i don't have any reasonably good reasons to change it. those of a principles that we have laid out and we have not changed the principles since the process started. thank you so much, guys. have a good day.

[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> finishing up the white house briefing this afternoon as we had outside and look at a live picture of the u.s. district court where paul manafort was scheduled to meet this afternoon. areies saying the charges related to work he did on a pro-russia political party in the ukraine for which mr. mueller alleges metaphor and richard gates were paid tens of millions of dollars to launder

ukraine payments from the united states authorities. several congressional committees will be holding hearings this week on russia's influence on the 2016 election. paul manafort and rick gates, both of whom have spoken to the senate intelligence committee. george papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty to making false statements to the fbi and is a cooperating witness but has not spoken to the committee. google, facebook, and twitter executives will be on capitol hill testifying on russia's use of social media in the 2016 election. this gets underway live at 2:30 p.m. eastern on c-span3. they will return on wednesday to testify for two other committees. stern and 2:00 eastern.

they will be available online at c-span.org or with the free c-span radio app. c-span buses traveling across the country on our 50 capitals tour. we stopped at nashville, tennessee asking what the most important issue is in their state. >> one important issue to me is the difference in gender wages. women are paid a little less then meant for the same exact jobs. i feel like they should be paid the same amount. >> i am a junior accounting major. an important issue to me is education. i think tennessee has done a great job offering free community college across the state. i would like to see across the federal level. >> i am a junior at belmont university in tennessee. this important issue to me is

protecting the right to life. >> an important issue to me is daca removal because i think those who have contributed to our society should they in ou data should stay in our society. >> everyone should receive a quality arts education. it builds self-worth and self-confidence and give skills not just to understand other cultures but to develop their own voice and interact with different types of people from around the world and people who might have a different point of view. ♪ >> voices from the states on c-span. >> the supreme court justice talks about her life and legal career in an event hosted by equal justice works. workiscussed her advocacy concerning equal rights. thisilliams moderated 90-minute event.

-- anne w david: hello, everybody. i am the proud executive director of equal justice works. thank you all for being here. i am very excited. are you excited? [applause] i thought so. i thought you in the halls. you guys are awesome. just remind you, after a couple of minutes, we will put our phones down. right? ok. make sure we are all clear on that one. we are so honored to have justice ruth bader ginsburg here. annea conversation with claire williams.