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>> well, troops returning from ebola response centers in west africa are now subject to a quarantine-like policy. medical workers are not. the policy was announced by defense secretary chuck hagel yesterday. civilian quarantine is in part due to pressure on government officials not to impose one. the administration's response to "not wellcrisis was thought out" in the speaker said he did not know why the military had to be part of that response at all. we'll hear more from secretary the jointchairman of chiefs, martin dempsey, later this afternoon. the issue has come up in a number of debates. more coming up tonight. with five days until the election, we started in illinois where incumbent governor pat

quinn is facing republican businessman bruce rauner with recent polls showing that race .n a dead heat moving to the race for new york governor, incumbent democrat andrew cuomo is facing a republican and two independents. here are some of the ads that new yorkers are seeing. >> one. 2. 3. 4. 5. seven. six. >> 10. 9. 8. 7. these are the stakes. do we reelect a governor who may end up in jail? >> can we trust ultraconservative rob astorino? when he ran for westchester

county executive, he promised to cut property taxes 20%. then he broke his word and be towed a property tax cut. reno, westchester has the highest property taxes not only in new york but in the nation. the highest property taxes in the nation. if you cannot trust him to manage property taxes in westchester, you could never trust him as governor. >> governor is supposed to represent all the people, but andrew cuomo only represents elitist liberals in the city. he does not care about you. that's why cuomo forced extreme gun control. popular rifles, magazines, and violated the privacy of law-abiding gun owners. constitutionalok freedoms away from you. take the governor's office away from him. >> trust is everything to me. that is why for all we have accomplished to fix state government, our job is not done

until we have cleaned up the legislative corruption in albany, so i am appointing a new independent commission, led by top law enforcement officials from all across this great state to investigate and prosecute wrongdoing. the politicians in albany will not like it, but i work for the people, and i won't stop fighting until we all have a government that works for us. >> andrew cuomo is spending millions of our tax dollars on ads that are not true. guess what state ranks dead last in economic outlook? cuomo's new york. has the highest property taxes in the nation? cuomo's new york. andrew cuomo's policies have new ,ork last into many categories and no amount of taxpayer ads will change that. >> new york has a proud history of fighting discrimination. that is why it is shocking rob astorino has repeatedly violated

federal discrimination laws for years. the only county executive in the nation who refuses to comply. $10 million in penalties for civil rights violations. "the new york times" on asked her minute -- diehard resistance to civil rights laws did not work out for the south half a century ago and will not work now. rob astorino -- so far right, he's wrong for new york. democrat jeanne shaheen is seeking a second term, running against former massachusetts republican scott brown in a race that real clear politics says is a tossup. senator shaheen has a small lead in most polls. here are some of the ads running in that new hampshire race. >> one thing i'm definitely going to change. >> new hampshire, we have some of the highest energy cost in the nation. >> $42 and month more out of

your pocket. >> $12 and $.47 per month extra. $50 a month, about 50% more, and they have about 130,000 new hampshire customers. >> i'm definitely going to change. >> i have never voted to outsource jobs.

>> your involvement of a company you are on the board whose business practice includes shipping jobs overseas to minimize costs, outsourcing. >> i have never voted to outsource jobs. it's interesting when you look at that. >> anyone who turns on the tv these days knows we face challenges to our way of life. radical islamic terrorists are the crust too cut our country. i want to secure the border, keep out the people who would do us harm, and restore america's leadership in the world. approvet brown, and i

this message because protecting the homeland is the first step to making america strong again. >> they don't call us the granite state for nothing. we are tough here. i never back down from a fight for the people of new hampshire. i don't work for the big oil companies or the big banks. i work for you, saving jobs at the shipyard, helping our businesses compete, allowing families to refinance student loans and veterans get health care close to home, getting the job done for new hampshire. i'm jeanne shaheen. i approve this message. i did not just moved here. i have in here fighting for you. i would be honored to have your vote. >> be part of c-span's campaign 2014 coverage. follow us on twitter and like us on facebook to get debate schedules, video clips of key moments, debate three views from our politics team. c-span is bringing you over one hundred senate, house, and government debates, and you can instantly share your reactions to what the candidates are saying.

the battle or control of congress -- stay in touch and engaged by following us on twitter and liking us on facebook. >> now to the texas senate debate between incumbent two -term republican john cornyn and democratic candidate david a la meal, a businessman and dentist. the race is listed as solid republican. the debate is courtesy of kuvn univision and is an hour. >> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. as you know it is prohibited to , applaud. the only exception is in this moment when i ask you to welcome the candidates -- the only exception is now, when i ask you to welcome the candidates. senator john korman -- john cornyn and dr. david a la meal

-- dr. david alameel. [applause] [applause] for the rest of the night, it is prohibited to applaud or make noise. the questions for the candidates will be asked by our panelists. ero, anchor for channel 23. and pedro rojas, national correspondent for univision. the rules are the following. each candidate has two minutes for an opening statement. and more for a closing statement. each answer and rebuttal will have a maximum duration of one

minute. if a candidate surpasses this time, the bell will ring. i hope i do not have to use it. we will start with mr. john introductory message, as it was decided on a coin toss. >> thank you for being here tonight. thank you to mountain view for hosting us and univision for this discussion of the issues confronting our state and nation. thank you for the privilege of representing the 26 million people for the state. texas has become a model for governance and the policies that promote strong job growth, a booming economy, and people seeking their dreams. we know by way of background,

for those of you who do not know me well, i was born in houston. my father served 31 years in the air force. i grew up in san antonio, and went to school in san antonio, and then ran for and was elected as a district judge in san antonio. i served on the texas supreme court, where we dug with many issues like public education and access to quality education. i served as attorney general for four years where we dealt with many important issues. i also served as the chief child support enforcement officer for the state, collecting child support for 1.2 million low income children. we know that washington is broken. you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that. the dysfunction in washington does not serve the interests of the people of our state or the people of america. what we need is new leadership in a new direction. we don't need people who'll go to washington and support the

status quo. the obstruction of the majority leader and the policies of the president. the president has made this very clear, what this election is about. he said his name may not be on the ballot but his policies will be on the ballot. i look forward discussing with dr. alameel and all of you the choices that lie ahead and the opportunities that lie ahead to pursue the american dream once again. >> mr. cornyn, your time is up. now we will hear dr. alameel. you have two minutes. >> thank you. friends, as a young man, i started my career in gas stations. and working as a farm worker in the field. my wife and i struggled many years to make ends meet. i used my g.i. bill after serving in the army to go to college. then we moved to dallas, and we started a small business that

grew into 26 locations. we have been able to achieve the american dream because the education i received was practically free and our economy was the envy of the world, but today that american dream is out of reach for most american families because wall street has taken over washington by spending billions of dollars a year to buy the whole republican party and a group called wall street democrats and over the last 35 years they shipped all of our manufacturing jobs overseas and put trillions of our dollars into safe havens and nearly destroyed the middle class. john cornyn is one of the leaders of that establishment. his policies have left our country broke and without jobs. he is turning our country into a minimum wage nation, and we say enough is enough. we want to send john cornyn to an early retirement and see how he survives on minimum wage. friends, i know how to build business and create jobs.

i know the value of hard work and educational opportunities. i know how the move our country forward and i will be honored to serve as your next u.s. senator. >> we're going to move forward with the first question and angel pedrero will ask that question. >> thank you, wendy. good evening, dr. alameel and senator cornyn. the first question is to senator corning. officials released some -- to immigrants who have faced charges such as kidnapping, sexual assault, drugs, trafficking and homicide. if you will be reelected what will be your priority getting -- -- getting done immigration reform or finding additional

funding to capture and send back to the countries the criminals that were released? >> i am a strong supporter of immigration reform because i believe there is no one, regardless of their position on this sometimes contentious issue who believes that our immigration system is working the way it should. i support an immigration system that reflects our values and also protects our interests as a nation. right now, our system is one of chaos. largely controlled by the criminal organizations that get rich off of ferrying people in and out of our country. these are the same people who traffic in drugs and traffic in human beings and basically their business is misery, human misery. we need to restore our immigration system to a legal one, because we are the most generous country in the world. we naturalize almost 1 million

people a year. we need to shut down cartels of human misery and restore -- >> the question is for you actually. now that those releases by immigration and customs enforcement are known, immigrants who have some criminal background, if you elected as a senator, what would you do to event this type of error from happening again? >> of course although i am a very supporter of immigration reform, it is for people who are hard working and law-abiding. people who commit crimes should be deported immediately and sent back to their country. and i don't believe that we should tolerate any criminal activity or any people who commit a criminal act. but most of the latinos here who are undocumented are people who have been here for many, many

years. people who are very hard working. god fearing. pro family. these people, some who have been here many, many years, are married and have children and grandchildren and i believe they deserve a path to citizenship and i believe that they deserve the same path to the american dream as every other community and i will fight with tooth and nail to let them have that. >> and now next question is from julietta. hernandez. >> this question goes for both. the immigration and nationality act allows for the united states to allow 175,000 visas each year. do you believe increasing the amount of visas each year will benefit the country and if so, how many visas would you be willing to approve for this program?

>> as was decided on the coin toss, mr. cornyn will answer first. >> we shouldn't set a hard cap on the number of visas. it depends frankly on how well our economy is doing. if it is doing well and we have full employment for american citizens then we could look at a more flexible cap that would reflect the demand for legal workforce here in the united states. but we do have, as i said earlier, an immigration system, that does not protect our national interests. we educate at colleges like mountain view college and other colleges across the country, people who have skills and talents that we need in the united states. about half of our engineering students are foreign born and it makes no sense whatsoever given the demand we have in our country for these highly skilled

individuals to send them back to their country of origin because we put some sort of artificial cap on that. >> of course we need to increase quotas, but that will never take care of our latino community. we have 11 million undocumented workers who have been here more many, many years. immigration reform should give them permanency. we need that now. cornyn would take us 100 years to give us the relief our latinos deserve. >> this question goes to senator cornyn. according to the "new york times," about 200,000 parents of children who are american citizens were deported between 2010 and 2012.

and children are in foster care because their mother or father were deported. what would you do if you were one of them? >> we know that the people come to the united states for opportunities and for the american dream that we already spoke about before. what i've always said is we need a -- nobody supports the status quo of our immigration system. i don't think anybody is happy with it. the issue is how do we find some consensus? the way we do that is to find a way to break this down into smaller pieces, because frankly there is so much distrust in washington, d.c. these days, it is hard to pass a comprehensive bill that does everything.

as we have seen the delay, i think makes my point. if we had been able to do it, we would have already done it. i introduced a comprehensive immigration reform bill in 2005 with senator jon kyl of arizona but like all of the other comprehensive bills, they have not gone anywhere. let's find parts of it that we agree on. the children who came with their parents. >> your time is up, sir. if mr. alameel doesn't want a rebuttal we're moving on to the next question. >> i do. the only time he voted for immigration reform is when he knew that the house was not even going to consider it. it is in human and anti-christian to separate kids from their parents. that's why immigration reform is needed as of yesterday. as of last year. as of 10 years ago. the only way to solve this problem is to stop deportation and keep these families together until we figure out exactly what immigration reform is going to look like. >> next question, pedro rojas.

>> dr. alameel, as a veteran of the u.s. army, are you in favor of the deployment of the texas national guard to the texas/mexico border and if so, why? >> i think it is a joke. we need to secure our border for many reasons, but it is not the national guard who should take care of our border. it is the federal government. texans should not have the cost of securing our border. it will not take very long they start figures out our southern border is wide open for terrorists to come in. i believe it needs to be secured. what rick perry did is just a political ploy. it is not going to work. they don't have any authority to arrest anybody. they don't have authority to do

anything. i think it is time for our federal government to take care of our border. >> given the fact that the president refused to visit the rio grande valley during this humanitarian crisis, my visits down there showed that the patrol officials were overwhelmed by the flood of unaccompanied children, 62,000 since just 2,000 alone. one man we asked and he was being detained at the border in squalid conditions. i asked him how old he was, he said he was 13. i asked him where his parents were. he said they are dead. that young man could qualify for an immigration vis nay the united states if he was able to -- visa in the united states if he was able to appear before a judge and make that claim. i work for a democrat in texas to try to offer a bipartisan

solution to just this little piece of this broken immigration system. we could not get a vote from the majority leader senator reid in the united states senate. the president said he would veto it if we sent it to him. that is not a way to solve the problem. >> senator cornyn, you have supported expanding aid for low income students and student loan reform. do your future education policies include advocating for the federal aid for low income students that have benefited from the dream act? >> well, i believe that education is the key is the way out. i have indicated earlier that for children who came with their parents and into the country and did not comply with our immigration laws, they are guilty of nothing other than coming with their family and we ought to provide them an opportunity, not only to go to school but to eventually serve in the military or complete a college education and earn an american citizenship.

i believe that. and i believe in the process, they should be treated just the same as we would any other student based on need. it makes so much for sense for us to have these young people here in texas and here in america as productive citizens. it makes absolutely no sense to condemn them to minimum wage jobs for the rest of their lives when they could produce so much more and they could be so much more and we will -- they would benefit. their families would benefit and our nation would benefit. >> our federal reserve has given in thereet $3.2 trillion past five years at 1 quarter of 1%. yet our children have the burden of student loans and they are playing anywhere from 5% to 7%. when elizabeth warren introduced the bill to reduce the interest payment on our students john cornyn voted against it. if he really cares about

education, he should tell the country that our education should be practically free and our students should not have to have loans, much less pay 7%. at least they should pay only .25% just like wall street corporations do. >> next question is from angel pedrero. >> thank you, wendy. this question is for dr. alameel. according to the dallas morning news, about 10 years ago you gave money to the senator cornyn campaign. what did senator cornyn have at that time that you say he no -- that prompted you to support him that you say he no longer has? >> he was only two years into his office and had no record. and of all the things that i have to live with in my life, and i stand by all of my mistakes. this is one terrible mistake i have to live with.

>> well, i would say dr. alameel, he was an enthusiastic supporter of mine and governor perry's. and republicans up and down the ticket. he decided for reasons i'm sure he can explain and switched parties. spent $4.5 million of his own money. he decided to self-finance this race. i enjoy the support of 17,000 texans who have contributed to my campaign. dr. alameel's primary campaign contributor is dr. alameel. so he has that right and i'm glad he is here tonight making his case for election to the american people, but i would say people can judge for themselves whether he is being consistent or inconsistent. his actions match his words. i would suggest they do not. >> next question is from pedro

rojas. >> this question is for both. senator cornyn and dr. alameel, what would you do to secure the border and avoid a human crisis like the one we saw in the summer? how can we prevent a massive amount of children coming in? >> i already stated exactly how i would like to secure our border. it is a federal government job. i would fight for that as your senator. these people are coming because they have strife in their countries. they are killing their parents. one of the things we have to do is when we give them financial aid, we have to put conditions on them. we can't allow the leaders of that country to go and squander the financial aid that we give them. we do business with them. we can put pressure on them to stop the killing with the cartel in their country and to stop the

abuse and the corruption in their government to provide a better life for their country. as far as the vote is concerned, it has nothing to do with crisis on the border. it has to do with our national security. >> mr. cornyn. you have one minute. >> we know how the do this. we just haven't had the political will to do it. actually this is one of the problems with a so-called comprehensive approach. that it is viewed as everything is connected to everything else. when you insist on everything your way or nothing, most of the time you get nothing. and so what we need to do is to make the commitment in terms of federal resources. i'm talking about people, technology, but mainly it is a matter of national will. we know how the do this, but we also need to separate the people who are the cartels and the drug running and the human trafficking from the legitimate traffic and trade.

we benefit into the tune of 6 million jobs in america from trade with mexico but we haven't funded our ports of interest and staffed them in a way to separate the legal and beneficial from the illegal and the harmful. once we decide what sort of legal guess work or program -- >> your time is up, sir. excuse me. >> this question is for both. if elected as a texas senator, what concrete action will you take to make your office more accessible to student population and to motivate those students to get involved and express their needs? >> this time mr. corn listen begin. you have one minute. >> one reason i'm happy to be here at mountain view college tonight is because i think a lot of students who haven't been as involved in the political process get a chance to see first hand what it is like and hopefully this will be the beginning of their active engagement over the course of

their lives. we have a unique form of government and because the government is us. we are the ones who decide who gets elected what happened the policies will be based on how we vote and if we vote. so i think students have a vested interest. unfortunately your generation has not been treated very well by the current office holders. there is plenty of blame to go around. but right now there is absolutely no discussion about the $17 trillion in debt that is going to have to be paid back and the unsustainable social security and medicare systems that we know how the fix and how to keep those commitments to our seniors and future generations, but there seems to be absolutely no commitment under the current leadership to fix them. >> i would like to make a question to both of you. this time mr. alameel will answer first. we have been hearing a lot about ebola. what would you do differently at the legislation to deal with the

ebola crisis? would you approve legislation to prohibit flights from ebola-stricken countries to come to the u.s.? >> it is a problem that he said there is no political will in washington to fix. retirement, education and everything else that we need. he doesn't have an open door policy. he didn't answer that question. the reason ebola is a big problem is they keep cutting funding that every agency that we need. c.d.c. was not ready to handle an epidemic. our hospitals were not ready to handle an epidemic and we totally bungled that whole incident and we have doctors and nurses and patients going around with fluids infected and they are allowing them to fly and to sit in rooms. yes, we have to restrict the flow in and out of that epidemic

area. start to fund our emergency healthcare response is more important than anything else and making the screening more strict at airports will help that. >> your time is up. mr. cornyn, what would you do? >> i know we all celebrate with the family of nina pham, her good diagnosis, being cured of the disease. she was with the president this afternoon in the oval office. i call for a travel ban n those west african nations as we pursue a vaccine from wonderful world class medical facilities that we have. unfortunately dallas was not prepared primarily because they were looking for guidance from the federal government and the center for disease control was giving inconsistent or inadequate incomplete advice on the protocol to use to protect themselves.

thankfully the people who came in casual contact were not infected. the people we thought were at the lowest risk were because there was no leadership from the white house and the federal government. >> this question is for both. children in texas use -- to get better. using medicinal marijuana to get better. would you support the legalization for medicinal marijuana in texas? >> we see experimentation taking place all across our country where n places like colorado where it is being openly sold as

a recreational drug with no real knowledge of what the results of this experiment will be in terms of public safety and public health. as we know now, under aged individuals, children, get access to alcohol, even though we know it is not legal for them to do so. so i don't think it would take a great speculation to say this will, if approved for adults, will make its way to children, who its impact on their growing and forming brains and their productivity is really unknown. so i do not support the legalization of marijuana. >> mr. alameel? >> well, of course, many christians thought alcohol was satan. they had the same argument in the prohibition era. i think medical marijuana should

be available to patients who need it. second, i think most of the people who have been arrested and going to prison are african-american and latino kids even though anglo population are using it much more. i believe it is time to have those kids go back to their family and it is time to decriminalize marijuana and i think that will go a long way to allow the african-american community and the latino community to unite. i'm sure as well to deal with our young people the way we do with alcohol but having prohibition like we did before did not work. we wasted trillions of dollars on the stroke war that does not work. i think marijuana should be decriminalized so people either pay a fine or do a community service. >> your time is up, sir. pedro rojas, do you want a rebuttal?

>> no. >> this question is for both senator cornyn and mr. alameel. this ebola crisis -- at the -- originated at the texas presbyterian hospital here in dallas. if any of you get elected as senators of the state of texas, would you promote any changes in the senate to make hospital management more accountable to their patients, their employees and the public? >> mr. alameel, you will answer first. >> of course our hospitals, like everything else in our healthcare system is for profit. sometimes people go too far with profit. they start cutting corners. the dallas hospital that had this outbreak did not have proper equipment. even after our -- their patient went to be treated, they still did not have the gear necessary to take care of them and they tried to muzzle -- from

-- they tried to muzzle the staff from complaining. i think everything has to do with us having a plan. we have four centers in the country to handle ebola and the total number in the country is nine beds. if we have an epidemic, the first nine patients will be taken care of the 100,000 will die. >> mr. cornyn, please? >> i visited with judge jenkins and mayor rawlings about this. what struck me is that they were waiting for guide france the white house, from the federal government and it took president three weeks before he appointed a liaison officer, sometimes called a czar, but we don't need any more czars. what we need is somebody to coordinate the care between federal government, state and local government to make sure that the emergency resources we had were available and they were acting on the best possible information. so texas presbyterian hospital

and the county did the best they could but they were handicapped by a lack of help and useful guidance from the federal government. the center for disease control has world class epidemiologists and doctors but they are not the kinds of boots on the ground needed to guide and direct people trying to save the life of people like mr. duncan, who are real heroes. >> we have to move forward to the next question. >> senator cornyn, according to the center of disease control, 27% of young adults did not have health insurance in 2012. part of your effort has been to put an end to obama care. what would you do to increase the percentage of young americans without insurance? >> it is true that the affordable care act or obama care was supported by its

advocates as a solution to our broken healthcare system. there were many people like me who were skeptical that the federal government had the competence or the ability to change the law, especially using the tools they did, that would actually cover more people. in fact, there are still today 42 million people who lack healthcare insurance even now four years into obama care's passage. and we found that all of the promises that were made, if you like your doctor, you can keep them. that has proved not to be true because what the federal government did is made health insurance more expensive. not less expensive and more affordable. so i have a plan to put in place an alternative that would let you choose your healthcare and would bring down prices by increasing competition and making it more transparent.

>> well, of course, obama care is no different than romney care which john cornyn didn't have a problem with. it is a good step in the right direction. it has helped five million people get insurance. it also changed our healthcare. for the first time in history, an insurance company cannot drop a patient when he gets sick. if they have pre-existing conditions, they have to cover him. for the first time they allow kids to remain on their parent'' policy. it is not perfect but it is a step in the right direction. it is the law of the land and republicans need to stop saying no and how to help fix it. >> the next question. >> thank you. dr. alameel, you say increasing the minimum federal wage to $10.10 is a good proposal.

would you be willing to apply that increase in your business before it becomes law? >> well, minimum wage in my company that i sold in 2009 was $10 an hour. we used to pay latina and latinos straight out of high school $10 an hour. it was great for my business. they became good consumers for my neighbors' business and became very loyal employees and also became people who stayed there and we didn't have to train other people. the more employees make the more consumer makes. the more consumers make, the more small business will profit. i think it is a silly argument that minimum wage hurts business. >> next question from pedro. >> senator cornyn, would you support -- changing gears here, would you support u.s. troops to the ground in iraq to fight

the terror group isil? if so, how many would be deployed? >> i'm waiting for the president to decide how many to defeat the islamic state. it is a threat not only the peace in the middle east but as we with learned on september 11 2001 what happens over there can have a direct impact on our safety and security here, but i don't believe the president's current tactic s of air strikes alone are adequate. don't take my word for it. you can ask martin dempsey, chairman of the joints chiefs of staff, the secretary of defense, leon pennetta. if we can get allies to be the boots on the ground, we should do that.

but the fact of the matter is we in america have capabilities that no one else has. if we don't stop it there, then we could be well defending ourselves here. >> your time is up, sir. >> of course john cornyn is saying he wants boots on the ground since this crisis started. i say our president is doing right by bombing them to degrade them and before we put boots on the ground and end up like another iraqi war, we need to have a foreign policy vision. we need to have a plan and decide what our goals are in the middle east. it is a domino effect type of region. we don't need to create another war. if we have a good plan, i will support our military to take care of them because they are a threat to our country. >> next question from ms. hernandez. >> do you support funding for noncitizens for tuition for higher education? >> yes, ma'am. [laughter] [applause]

>> ok. mr. angel pedrero. >> thank you, wendy. senator cornyn, of all the decisions that you made in your 12 years, which one do you regret the most or would you rather say you have never made a mistake in your tenure? >> well, i would never say that i have not made any mistakes. my wife is in the audience. she would disagree if i said that. of course we all make mistakes in life. and hopefully we learn from them. one of the things i regret is that when we passed the prescription drug program for medicare to make prescription drugs available for seniors, that we didn't insist that it be paid for. that was a mistake. because what we have seen there is a bipartisan tendency to want to do things but not to pay for them.

this is this has happened over a period of time to where now we have $17 trillion in debt and someone is going to have to pay that back. unfortunately it is going to be the next generation is going to have to pay that back and that is immoral for us to be spending money today and giving them the bill to pay it back in the future. that's why i support a balanced budget amendment to the united states constitution. to force the congress to do what states do and what we all should do. >> time is up. >> i learned more from my mistakes than i learn from my success. that is why i'm successful today. you have to turn every stumbling block into a steppingstone to reach higher. i think i have made many mistakes. one of them was john cornyn. [laughter] but there is nothing wrong with making mistakes as long as you learn from it. we all have to learn.

i still learn. i'm already 62 years old. every day i'm learning something new. it is ok to make mistakes. >> this question is for dr. alameel. you have trouble throughout the state promoting your political platform. i was reading about it. i read that you would like to advocate big banks paying their fair share in taxes. can you explain more in detail about those ideas? >> remember that establishment in washington? they passed special legislations so that company can hide profits overseas for deferred profits and they don't pay taxes until they bring it home. they have trillions and trillions of dollars that hay hide overseas and they also have the ability to do production overseas in china and produce a project for $5 and sell it to a subsidiary in the kaman islands for $95 and then they will sell it to us for $100 and claim $5 profits.

there are many ways that big corporations are cheating the system. they have incentives to take our jobs overseas. it is very simple. we reverse those policies and we will get our jobs back. >> do you see these possibilities, you have been around this congress and senate for the last 12 years. is it possible to overturn this? >> we need to change the status quo because it's hurting american jobs and investment here. we have the highest corporate rate in the world and i was at the dallas hispanic chamber today at lunch, a small business woman told me she is at the 30% tax rate but large multinational corporations have lawyers and accountants and basically can manipulate the current system and end up paying zero in effective tax rate.

that is wrong and we should not be forcing her in her small business here in north texas to subsidize the activity s of a multinational corporation that has a team of lawyers and accountants. unfortunately the obama administration told us it will take not $1 trillion in new taxes for them to agree to come to the table. that is not acceptable. >> our student that is next question. >> this question is for both. would you support a federal abortion law similar to the new abortion law recently enacted in texas mr. cornyn, you will answer first. >> i believe that personal i will tell you i am pro life. that is my view. those are my values, but i believe that women's health is important. if they are seeking abortions lawfully and that the steps that

texas took were to improve the clinics to make sure that women did not suffer malpractice and poor treatment there was a step in the right direction. the problem we saw in pennsylvania, for example, is when the doctor, he was basically a human butcher. women died seeking otherwise lawful abortions at his facility. we can't let that happen here. i believe that the steps that the texas legislature took were steps in the right direction. >> mr. alameel, you one minute to answer. >> in case you didn't notice, the first question last time he made my case about my economic platform. second, his answer just now, he just declared he is pro choice! so i'm catholic like him.

we don't believe in abortion but we respect the others and we want them to have the facilities like he said he would. so we agree on this. [laughter] [applause] >> angel pedrero has the next question. >> thank you, wendy. this question is for both. can you explain your position about same-sex marriage? can you support a constitutional amendment to define what this marriage is? >> i believe it should be defined at the state level by the people of our state. the people of texas have made that judgment. we should not have unelected judges force different policy other than that chose twin -- then that voluntarily chosen by the people of our state. i would say i am pro traditional marriage, i believe that is good for the families and for the people of the countries but i understand the supreme court said this matter should be decided at the state level and i

believe that the verdict of the people of intersection favor of -- the verdict of the people of texas in favor of traditional marriage should be respected. >> do you want to add something mr. alameel? >> yeah, if i have a rebuttal. you cannot make any noise or applaud. mr. alameel, you have -- >> yes. i'm catholic. i love every human the way god loved us and the constitution always said that everybody has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and i believe that lesbian and gays have the same right as everybody else and we should move on from this divisive issue. >> next question. pedro, please? >> this question is for both. should english be declared the official language of the united states and should other

spoken by minorities be considered and embraced for the purposes of legal documents? >> mr. alameel? you will answer first. >> i'm always leery when somebody starts saying something ought to be the official language. in a way it is the official language but we're allowing people to have time to learn the english language. i think nobody can become successful in america unless they learn the english language. every immigrant, every undocumented worker should learn the language. i will encourage everybody to learn english. until they do, we ought to help them and gear them toward that path. >> mr. cornyn? >> i agree with dr. alameel. >> should other language be used for a document or lease agreement? >> in places where it is needed, sure.

we don't want to abandon millions of people the right to participate just because they have not learned the language yet. we have always had that problem. with the irish, with the germans, with the italians. now we have it with the latinos. it is up to us to help them until they learn the language. >> i don't agree with that the same. because we have to understand that we are a common people with a common language. and we can all come from different places. we can speak other languages too. i know governor at the time george w. bush used to talk about english plus being a good policy. every immigrant policy understands as the doctor said, in order to be successful in america, english is a language you need to learn and speak. that doesn't mean we disrespect people who come from other countries who also speak other languages, but we encourage them

to assimilate. america is really not just a place. it is an idea. it is a place where people come from many different backgrounds and different parts of the world and we become americans. english is our common language. that doesn't mean we forget about who we are or where we came from. we have to show due respect to that and also acknowledge that english is the language in which business is done and the language that people need to learn in order to be successful. >> you 60 seconds. >> i said what i need to say. it is not how much you say. it is what you say. i say what i mean and mean what i say. >> ok. we're going to move on to the next question. and this question is for both of you. assuming you are really interested in a comprehensive immigration reform, why should we believe that you will be the one able to break the deadlock surrounding it in congress?

this time, mr. alameel, you will answer first. >> well, of course, my wife's family is from mexico. i'm an immigrant. my children are children of immigrants. i've been living in the latino communities all my life and i know this is very important to them and to me. it is very important for us to recognize that immigrants make our country stronger and i will, like i said, i will fight tooth and nail for immigration reform. i can tell you one thing. that the republicans are never going to do immigration reform. they tell them to go home. i have talked to republicans many times when i used to help them years ago about immigration reform and each and every one of them say send them home and make them stand in line in their country. thank you. >> mr. cornyn? >> i don't agree with the characterization of dr. alameel about my position or the position of most republicans.

but i support, as i said earlier, immigration reform. but i think we do have a crisis of confidence in washington and that is because of the promises made by the current administration in healthcare, on the economy, on national security, on so many fronts. and people are really beginning to wonder can we believe what you say? will you actually, if we pass a law, will you actually enforce law the way congress passes? this president has taken extraordinary liberties saying i have a pen and a phone and i'm going to do it myself and i'm going to go around congress. i'm not going to work with congress. that is not the way our constitution was written. our constitution was written to force us to work together on a bipartisan basis to build consensus. so it can't be my way or the highway. that kind of attitude will yield absolutely zero. >> yes, sir? >> john cornyn voted against dream act and immigration reform. john cornyn never stood up to his republican friends when they demean, ridicule and bash the latino community on a constant

basis. i don't recall him defending the community when he said they had big -- because of drug mules. >> ok. this question is for both of you. should the term limit be reduced for members of the senate as much as the house members that have to be elected every two years? this time mr. cornyn will answer first. >> well, the reason why senators are elected statewide and for a six-year term is presumably to give us the opportunity to make longer range decisions and policies for the american people. i think it serves the american people well. every six years, we get to vote on our candidates for office. we can vote for them or kick them out of office if we don't think they are doing a good job. i think the term limits that are provided by elections are the

best kinds of term limits. i wouldn't do something that would empower the lobbyists or the staff, the permanent staff because that would -- they would not be responsive to the will of my constituents, the 26.5 million people that live here. i am, because i work for them. i work for you. and that's the reason why i believe that six-year terms are appropriate. otherwise you're going to have senators scurrying around the state every two years that would never have time for anything else. >> i agree that election is a term limit process. unfortunately i'm beginning to realize more and more that the longer people stay in washington, the more beholden they are to big lobbyists who spend so many billion s of dollars a year to buy our government. if we cannot get this big money out of washington, we ought to make term limits. >> how will you address the need

for undocumented immigrants who are not qualified to receive benefits the opportunity to receive affordable health insurance? this time mr. alameel will answer first. >> well, we have to do immigration reform. it is one of the best ways to solve most of the problems that the latino community has. every latino community has either a relative or a friend that they care about who is suffering from not having documentation. unless we do that, i don't think there is a way to really legally help them and that's why i believe that as long as republicans are obstructing immigration reform, they are hurting the latino community. it is about their families. it is about their health. it is about putting food on the table. it is about their education. we have to do immigration reform. it solves most of the latino community problems that they are suffering from. >> i agree with that we need to

deal with the issue of immigration reform. that would be the best approach of this particular problem with access to health care. right now anyone who goes to emergency room of a hospital is entitled to be treated basically without any compensation. we all know that is not the best way for them to receive care. many times they wait too long and they get sicker than if their condition were to be addressed sooner. i hear the doctor talk about doing this and he lambastes the other party, but you can't get anything done in washington unless you do it on a bipartisan basis. it is impossible. that is the way our system is constructed. i would look to work with democrats that i have worked

with on immigration issues and we need to get some things done fix. that >> we are approaching the toned the program. i ask for david alameel to give us your closing statement. you have two minutes, sir. >> ok. the san antonio express news recently wrote that john cornyn has never led as a senator. the houston chronicle added that john cornyn could not cite a single accomplishment in all of his 12 years in the senate. wow. talking about a do-nothing senator. our country burns while cornyn fiddles. we need to provide a first class education for all of our children. not just a privileged few. we need to rebuild our own industrial economy right here in america. not in china. we need to make wall street corporation pay taxes on the trillions and trillions of dollars they hide in offshore

accounts. we have to eliminate unfair trade agreements that punish the american economy. we have to eliminate the outsourcing -- so we can finally bring our manufacturing jobs back home from overseas. it is time to put america first and put our own families back to work. if he loves wall street and china so much maybe he and his wall street buddies ought to move to china and leave us alone to rebuild our own economy to benefit the people of these united states of america. our party, our party, democrat party that pulled us out of the great depression gave us 50 years of the best education, the best economy and the best middle class in the world, needs to distance itself from wall street and go back to its roots so we can restore the american dream. the american dream for all people. it is time for changing america.

and as your senator, i will lead that change. i'm david alameel. tonight i humbly ask for your support. thank you. >> thank you, sir. mr. cornyn. you have two minutes for your closing statement. >> thank you. to the panel and unavision for sponsoring this exchange of views and mountain view college for providing us the venue and that wonderful opportunity. i hope those listening on line and who'll watch the unavision broadcast tomorrow night or the c-span replay next week, will get useful information out of this. it has been an honorary privilege for me to serve in the united states representing all texans, whether they voted for me or not. it is my responsibility and privilege to do so. and i think that dr. alameel is exactly wrong when he says that the american dream is out of reach. he is an example of the american

dream working. somebody coming into this country with nothing. working hard and becoming very wealthy in the process and creating jobs. i think that american dream should be available to everyone. but right now on the path that we're on in washington, d.c., nothing seems to be working the way it should. that's the reason why congress and the president's approval ratings are in the tank. because nothing is getting solved. i believe we need a new direction. we need new management. we need new leadership. and i think the american people are ready to give republicans a chance to lead because clearly under if status quo over the last few years under harry reid and president obama, the country is not better off. we are worse off. we are only a few decisions away from i think the sort of opportunity and growth in our economy and jobs that we need in this country to keep the american dream alive. unfortunately, washington has

gotten in the way and it is time for washington to get out of the way and they need to look no further than the state of texas for the sorts of policies and the type of governance which has created prosperity and caused people to vote with their feet and come in here at the rate of more than 1,000 a day. thank you very much. >> thank you to both of you. ladies and gentlemen this marks the conclusion. i would like to invite the candidates' families to compton stage and thank you so much. have a good night. \[applause] >> house speaker john boehner

has of him filed lawsuit against president barack obama for exceeding his constitutional power. for the second time in two months the law firm has ceased work on the lawsuit. the manual firm halted the preparations for the suit in the last weeks. the lawyer originally hired to pursue the case made a similar abrupt exit. politico says a gop spokesperson said on wednesday that house speakers are considering having a lawsuit filed by those already on the house payroll. back to our debate coverage. illinois governor debate, pat quinn is facing republican. the race is a dead heat. york, at nine, the democratic republican is andrew cuomo. in new hampshire, beginning at

10:00, with jeanne shaheen seeking a second term against farmers massachusetts republican senator scott brown in a race that real clear politics rates a tossup. senator shaheen has a small lead in most polls. onto louisiana. the louisiana senate debate. it is the last debate between mary landrieu and her to republican challengers, congressman bill cassidy and rob maness. louisiana is an open primary, meaning someone has to get 50% of the vote or they will be a runoff between the top two candidates. worst, let's look at ads running in louisiana. -- worst, let's look at ads running in louisiana. >> he is changing america for the worst. she votes with obama 97% of the time. obamacare, amnesty for

illegals. medicare cuts. bill cassidy stands up to barack obama because he represents you. >> i am dr. bill cassidy and i approve this message. >> i am a registered nurse who built businesses in 12 states. we treat too many women who are victims of domestic violence. that is why i will not understand why congress and bill cassidy voted against the violence against women act. bill cassidy is a doctor. he should know better. and iary landrieu approved this message, because i will always stand up for the women of louisiana. senator landrieu, i voted for you. when you voted for obamacare i knew i made a mistake. >> a great increases. still you refuse to repeal it. >> you try to scare us with

nonsense about social security. >> of the stands up two stands up to barack obama. >> i am bill cassidy and i'm standing with you and for you. >> i am mary landrieu and i approve this message. >> three republicans and a democrat and we are supporting mary landrieu. because of mary louisiana got billions. gotr katrina and rita we drilling rakes. >> she took on the president to get that done. of the energyrman committee. we can't afford to lose that. >> i am rob maness. in louisiana you learn to be tough. one moment of weakness and the alligators will eat you alive. i will fight to appeal obamacare, protect our gun

rights. i'm colonel rob maness and i approve this message because louisiana needs a senator that will stand up to the career politicians and the alligators. >> in six days louisiana voters go to the polls. in a race that will ultimately decide control of the united states senate. tonight, the major candidates face off in the race for the u.s. senate. now, live from lsu, here is tonight's moderator. >> good evening. welcome to our debate tonight, sponsored by lsu. welcome to the candidates. they are senator mary landrieu him a congressman bill cassidy, and colonel rob maness.

each candidate has one minute to respond to questions with a follow-up and some discretion of the moderator. the order of the questioning was predetermined by random drawing. we will introduce our panel of questioners as we go along beginning with great meriwether. >> good evening. americans are worried about the threat from isis. and what point would you support american troops on the ground in the middle east? >> thank you for that question, and thank you for moderating. thank you for showing up again. it is good to see you facing the voters finally for this hour. we look forward to talking about your record. i believe that isis is a very serious threat, and i believe that we have to do everything we can to eliminate that threat. we have air strikes now to work

with our partners to take out that threat. i would be open to other measures if necessary to do that and to make sure that we are as firm as we can be and that we may no mistake that this threat is real. >> with those other measures include american ground troops? >> i have said before that i would keep that option open. we've got to be careful, because we've already put a lot of troops on the ground in iraq and afghanistan. what i would be open, and i think it is a mistake to take these options off the table, honestly. our enemies need to believe that we are serious and we will take what measures necessary to eliminate them. quick whether it is the goal or isis, he was told a year and a

half ago that isis was on the rise. when they begin to make advances, he called them the jv team. it allowed isis to disburse those weapons across iraq and syria. if the commander in chief as opposed to keep us safe and secure, he has failed. he has not presented a strategy or a plan. i will reserve judgment as to whether i will commit our young men and women until i see a strategy. i don't trust this president. i think he is a terrible commander-in-chief. i'm not about to commit our young men and women, when he presents a strategy that is edible, i will consider all options. until then, i will reserve judgment. >> senator, congressman am a both of you should be in washington right now, but you are both here. both of you are ducking

responsibility for our new incremental and potentially endless war against isis. our president can't be trusted with national security, and it appears that neither can you. this president has failed in every job in national security that he has attempted and senator landrieu has been a rubber stamp for every one of his feckless polities. he needs a definition of success and an exit plan. congress has the responsibility, a valid responsibility to debate whether we should be at all out war and how we are going to pay for it instead of putting this war on a credit card. the young and women that wear our uniforms, and their parents and families, deserves that our congress should be in session now. instead of giving the president a blank check. >> the question, would you support american ground troops on the ground? >> once the president brings a strategy and the definition of

success and an exit plan and congress debates it and decides whether we can pay for it or not and how were going to pay for it, as a senator i will be able to entertain that option, but we would have to be looking at ground forces. that are not just american forces. >> if the joint chiefs came out and said this is necessary, with that move any of you? >> it's interesting for these two to claim great support of the military, and i have always been a strong supporter of the military, i believe we need to listen to our generals. isis is a real threat. it is frightening to the people of our state and our country. i support our allies and i'm not going to take any options off the table. >> i will listen to the

generals, but the commander-in-chief has been feckless, totally incompetent when it comes to keeping us safe and secure. it begs the question of why senator landrieu supports him 97% of the time. >> i need to respond to that, john. nobody is arguing that isis is not a threat. it is a threat, absolutely. and nobody is not listening to the joint chiefs except for one person and that is president obama and the democratic party. he's got to get his act together and start listening to the joint chiefs carried then maybe we can get the job done without extra lives lost. >> the next round of questions a slightly different. pacific league for one candidate. let's go to cynthia from k plc. >> senator landrieu, you admitted you miss used $33,000 in taxpayer money for air travel

for charter flights tom and you paid it back. but walk us through why you need charter flights in the first place for senate business. >> thank you, cynthia, for that question. first of all, i take full responsibility for that error. it was a bookkeeping error. we did a thorough and independent review and found the $33,000 and has been fully repaid. i used charter flights to move around the state more quickly and efficiently. others travel differently. sometimes i travel by car. sometimes i travel by plane. it was within the budget and within the rules. i take full responsibility for the errors that were made in that. >> are you moved at all by $17 trillion in debt? >> actually, john, the budget i receive every year, the 18 years i have been proud to serve the people of this state, i have

returned money to the treasurer. every senator has discretion as to how to use money in their own budget, but i return money every year and have lived within the budget. >> this question for congressman cassidy. >> we begin first by thanking you for being here tonight. with that said, can you explain to us why you have declined several debates? how would you respond to critics who say your strategy was to limit your exposure close to her runoff? >> i'm debating tonight. this is the second debate. how many times do we have to ask senator landrieu why she supports the president 97% of the time? the vast majority of people in louisiana have been punished i obamacare. why did she support a president who is hostile to our oil and gas jobs? there was a recent debate on the day you folks were preparing, i

spoke to the verde rotary club, toured va hospital, that with pastors, veterans, went to a manufacturing plant, and then drove to rustin and was at a meet and greet the next morning. that would not have happened if one more time we were discussing senator landrieu's vote for obama care one more time. >> would you address the part of the question, there are people who believe your strategy has been to kind of coast toward a runoff? >> people are always going to ascribe motives to you. my motive is to meet as many voters as possible. frankly reporters are the people i meet the most often. you actually meet people in different settings. we have limited time, and these debates have been great. i think it's adequate time to discuss the issues.

>> a question for colonel maness. you say you only serve two terms. since there's no such limit across the country, louisiana would never gain the influence that comes with the majority. why would this be an issue? >> first of all, we don't need senators with the seniority and clout that enables you to have a staff that spends $33,000 in tax dollars to fly yourself to campaign events, breaking the law. that's not the kind of clout we need. our first president was a military leader. if two terms were good enough for general washington, they are certainly good enough for a retired colonel. our government is designed to be run by citizen legislators, not the citizen class that we have allowed to be created over the last several decades. we need to eliminate it, and

that is why i am the one conservative in this race, and that's why i am running. >> the part of the question that deals with, that may be a wonderful idea that would work for the country, that is the other 49 states don't do it, are we at a disadvantage? >> we are not at a disadvantage because i support and advocate putting term limits into law. that is why the issues i'm going to fight for. >> another round of questions for all the candidates, beginning this time with congressman cassidy. >> the social security trustees say the trust funds will be so depleted that about 20 years that it will only be able to pay out about 75% of benefits. should congress and to restore that to 100%, or should people my age -- i'm 35 -- should we start planning for lower benefits? >> my commitment to the people of louisiana is that if you are

on social security, nothing changes. the age of eligibility and your benefits remain the same. the problem is medicare and social security trust funds are going bankrupt. senator landrieu past obamacare that took $700 billion out of the medicare trust fund to spend on obamacare. the social security disability trust fund is going bankrupt in two years. if this is personal. my mom is 91 and lives with us. the only thing we have is social and medicare. bankruptcy means an 85-year-old will see her benefits decreased by 25%. we can fix this. if you take someone who is 30, she would become eligible for benefits one-month later than she ordinarily would. by doing that we can fulfill the promise that if they are currently on social security nothing changes.

the cost of doing nothing is that your security is destroyed. >> republicans make frequently what may be the valid argument that when it comes to increases in the budget, the cuts that democrats often complain about, is really a cut in the growth of spending. it is really money that was taken out of the growth in what medicare would have had otherwise. it wasn't a real cut. is it inconsistent for you to suggest that they cut $750 million, which would imply that they went and grabbed $750 million? >> anyone who's out of pocket is greater for their own medicare benefits is finding those cuts are real. it wasn't just a change in the growth of spending. it was actually taking money from the trust fund that we knew would be spent and instead has decided to spend it on obamacare.

i can take it that's not the way to save medicare. >> your thoughts on social security, how do we fix it? >> the important thing to remember is that the issue with the social security trust fund dollars that are available gives us some time, about 15 years before anybody needs to look at a change in benefits. so we have some time to work and sit down and come to the table and find solutions that will work. we've got to stop politicizing this issue and scaring people have to death. that's what these two folks over here represent, that hyper partisan extremism that doesn't get americans to the table to find solutions. we have the time to get that done. we need to find solutions. everything needs to be on the table. it's a valid proposal. >> simpson bowles has frequently pointed out that the longer we wait, the worst pain. -- worse the pain.

i have heard you address this several times and i am not sure where you stand. are you willing to cut benefits? are you open to higher taxes down the road, lifting the income limit? >> i am open to any valid ideas to be put on the table, for us to come together to find solutions. the sooner the better. we shouldn't wait that long. however we do have plenty of time to do that. >> what about anything specifically? >> we have to consider any specifics in a broader context. to get down to a specific, like health savings accounts, and considering that in isolation is the wrong thing to do. yes, that could be the fixing the issue, but it needs to be part of a larger issue. i want to work from a constitutional perspective. those are the principles that i will start with.

>> the rules are you are not supposed to bring props but i don't know if anyone objects to the constitution. >> i really respect his work in service in the air force but he has no plan for social security. the greatest difference between my opponent and myself is on this issue. my opponent has voted four times to raise the social security age to 70. then he doubled down and says he doesn't think it is going to hurt anybody in louisiana. i want to remind you, congressman, that the life expectancy of a person, an african-american, is 70 years old. you expect them to work their whole life, pay into social security and earn benefits and get nothing back? that is not a solution and i will never vote to raise the age. there are solutions.

let me offer one. people don't pay into social security after hundred $16,000. -- $116,000. people that earn over a million dollars per year could pay a little more. >> your time has expired but let me follow up. your argument has been that the congressman, if we follow his path, gets everybody 60% of the benefits unless they retire at age 70. explain to me, because right now the trustees say that in 19 years everybody gets 75. everybody gets 75% of their benefits. one day a woman gets $.75 on the dollar out of nowhere.

how is this past different from his? -- path different from his? >> there is a big difference in our policies and what he is voted for. i will not vote to raise the social security age to 70. i will vote to add money to fund. i will not vote to cut social security to 70 and i will note vote for coupons for medicare. he wants to change medicare as >> in venice at me get a final words.

>> let me just say that neither of these plans work. >> i'm not sure what your plan is, what is your plan? >> the plan needs to be that find me to the table and solutions that work, neither one of these plans work because people in this audience that have paid into social services and neither one of these plans work. >> let's go back to greg merriweather. >> there millions of illegal immigrants in our country, outside our debate, what we do with the folks that are already here? >> greg, thanks to the question..

secure the border, secure the border. secure the we need to take care and respect the american citizens and the illegal immigrants that are here going to the process now before we do anything else like give welfare, housing to illinoisans. >> send them home?. >> i support a strong border and have many years. i have increased the number of border ainge and is from 15,000 and join john mccain

in passing a comprehensive immigration bill to double it 40,000.,000 to these attacks that i am not for secure border are absolutely false, now, the people that are here yes i do support the comprehensive bill by the chamber of commerce. is a president's responsibility to secure the border has failed.

if you come here legally there should not be a pathway to citizenship. now, by the way, senator lander says she is alford if it takes 30 years to secure the border were going to take some people out in order to get them out of the country. it depends on how long it takes to secure the border as long as barack obama's president we will not secure the border, as long as senator lander and harry reid controlled the senate, we will not control the border. >> i've got a response to that. you tried and

the evidence is clear, killed by an were illegal. is not secure, and they are now dead. we must secure the border, we must secure the border.. taxpayers do not want to waste their money on things that do not work, i've been to the border i'm not sure these two gentlemen have, i've seen the tunnel, i've seen people crawl over them so we need to have a smart technology using everything. get a final word, have you been to the border?

in the interest of fairness the last word from cassidy. thank you very much, let's go to cynthia for the next question. >> how do you feel about bobby to accept efusal medicaid dollars when so many people could have benefited from it? of my opponents agree that we should not expand medicaid, i think it is tragic because 252,000 people wake up and go to work every day could be benefiting from health insurance.

our government talks a lot about the workforce it is hard to have a strong workforce if it is not healthy. this would have cost the state the first few years. this is three times the amount of jobs that would be brought that is the equivalent. i have sent letters and showed up and pleading with him to say yes to 252,000 people in our state and that is part of why i am proud to run again and help people to get insurance that keeps them healthy and keep them working. >> you might ask if medicaid to a good why did they go charity hospital to mark that's because medicaid paid so far below the doctors costs. medicaid is the illusion of coverage without the power of access.

now to this myth that it wouldn't cost tax payers anything. along the way we find that in those states that are on medicaid its expansion they has been sent to the emergency rooms. outcomes are no better than among the non-insured. >> excuse me. >> we shouldn't expect the medicaid expansion. the other saying is we need to be outcome based, if we want to need it we have

got to have outcomes that are better than what medicaid systems providing that is the issue we need to address, not expanding. >> the commonwealth funds estimated $1.65 billion in the cost $230 but it does million so everybody here through why that is a good or not a good deal?. >> one of the big differences here, bill cassidy is a that has been paid a salary reason medicaid and so he has earned a living from medicaid but it is not good enough for people that to get health can. i didn't say that it cost anything i said it didn't cost the state of louisiana first three years and then it was the investment we could make

ecause the state would pay to get $90 back, that is a great investment. in these states where medicaid had expanded the cost of insurance has gone down for everyone. >> let me get the other two gentlemen to weigh in here. don't like obama care, you take the money. >> the urban institute $600 million to taxpayers. if working for lsu as a teacher

means that medicaid has paid my salary them proudly as the lsu faculty member i say that is what you paid me. so that side there are better ways to do this, not expanding a broken system. >> we have to move on. >> you brought up over obama care and i have to say it is an abomination and have to pull it out by the roots in addition to trying to fix a system that is already broken that isn't going to work. not take the money under the argument-- >> because the louisiana taxpayers are going to be holding the bag. we owe it to them not to take their tax dollars. >> if you want this budget cut is n more because more money going to medicaid. it is not a free ride, that is a lie and that's what people are saying it is not true. we need to be

honest -- >> i have got to move on. the medical in arena with regard to the ebola virus. a nurse has been quarantined against her well. was ay president obama surrounded by medical helpers returning from africa, given that people are contagious when showing symptoms should people before leaving africa be quarantined. >> there was an outbreak in 1976, the way they controlled it was that they issue travel restrictions, they taught

nationals how to treat the disease and they taught the to ple of the country had avoid infection. they infection within a month. i am not making this up, this is how it works. president may surround and who are a t people symptomatic but they can go on and new york subway and potentially infect others, we need to restrict travel and treat nationals how to treat the disease and teach infection control. >> the disconnect between the cbc and what it thinks it knows what its reality has become

surreal folks, our lives are in the hands of an agency full of politicised academics and professors. no more i am a and i met scientists arrogance, we applied e commonsense in this situation. a came home from africa, went riding on the subway, went out for dinner, what sort of arrogance is that? we have got to do restraining at every port of entry, we have got to do quarantined is where appropriate for folks that have been exposed to this dangerous and despicable disease, and we protect our medical folks in the same way that we protect them in emory university and other specialised units. has to f all the cpc admit that it doesn't know something.

>> i do believe that this is very fearful for met in the people in america, i think a 21 day currently is a minimum we should do full doctors and nurses and healthcare professionals that are going to three countries in particularly who are treating these people. let me say this, my opponent cassidy voted to cut cbc funding by $600 million so you have it l, you cannot both ways. you cannot criticise them and then cut the hell out of their budget. it is wrong. >> the washington post has it clear that the idea that the cbc budget has been cut, is false.

they were going to make it up from the affordable care act, let's make it honest to the american people. it is a false narrative. >> if it's okay with everybody i'm going to move on. a chance to get rebuttal. two nk you very much, these in washington, voted for people to go into these ebola hot zones, they need to take responsibility both of them and all of their colleagues were what this president is doing and holding him in check from preventing him from hurting the than he people more already has. >> the next question.

>> i am part of the first generation of americans who may not achieve the same standard of living as their parents, that is a very frightening the role of t is government to ensure economic prosperity for my generation and future generations? >> actually it's senator lander first. >> festival i think that is a legitimate concern and one of the things i work hardest on in washington is trying to lift the economic power of our country. i am in a particularly great position right now on behalf of the people of louisiana to help create millions of high-paid your generation can benefit and the excited to be here at lsu where we have fine technology engineering and and s for men and women minorities as well.

education is important, my opponent bill cassidy refuses to sign on to a bill to lower interest rates on student loans which are 21,000 average with n 11% interest and he will not sign on to my bill to double the opportunity of programs. >> congressmen? >> the government doesn't create permanent jobs and if it does those are the jobs you do not want to have. of our american economy comes from the american people. we create 40,000 jobs with better benefits. if you look at those

of the lower fifth income earners, the taxpayers hammer them. get government out of the way, get creativity going, you're going to get a better job. >> the main saying senator has been able to accomplish on energy is to push all the anti-appointism. we need to pull obama kept out by the roots.

cert you have got to get away with obama care, we cannot afford the restrictions, we cannot afford the new fees and we cannot afford the new taxes. that is hurting the economic spectrum that is exactly what obama care was supposed to help. we need to unleash our energy sector in the state so we can lead america. need to be t we doing. drill baby drill. the issue of clout, and billion investment was made, there is however are at threat from obama administration that threaten to will damp down, so what would you say to those who argue whether your chairmanship is a good idea or not?

the people who you are hanging with who are pro-environment together with an administration that could be anti-fossil. that argument is we need to the republican majority that. -- there. >> you can look at my record i have opposed the president's role for error and control, i support the pipeline and i moved out of my committee as quickly as i could after six of stalling, i got -- we are going to get a vote. we have gone from three democrats to 11. already passed a bill that has the largest opening for drilling in the gulf of mexico. i've worked with for majority leaders. have worked with six

governors. >> to congressman cassidy, this question, you spoke to the louisiana chemical association yesterday new knowledge that in the room, with your opponent. they must be not doing out of friendship, there must be some jobs on hand. >> this is not about a personal relationship but about the future of our country. the only thing that is threatening this area is the obama appointees. perverse vote though will be harry reid, harry reid will

never allow a vote on keystone xl pipelines and then he wall the liberal from california to make sure that stranglehold on those jobs. >> it is actually over a minute. >> senator lander uses it for barack obama she doesn't use it for us. she barack obama holding hands forcing obama new. -- obamacare on you. let me just start with

home they have the lowest unemployment rate in homer, that is a way the whole state of louisiana it should be. and of course boise bollinger is going to love her because things like ates six postcard that is when the case card has only asked to so that is billion dollars in his pockets, but those dollars should be spread around the state of louisiana. for s setting the climate businesses to succeed.

>> now he has gone a little bit too far, let me talk about the case cup for a minute, the coast guard is one of the most popular federal agents in the country. up when st guard showed people were 14 feet under the sea. if you want to secure the border you need to support the coastguards. we t me be very clear that are building the coastguards and the more we can support the better, you can count on me. a i will everybody have quick final word.

>> to even up reply that i do not support the united states coast guard or other military members and their families is believe us but i do that we are nearly $18 trillion worth of debt in this country. we are at a crisis level and out our debt and the people of louisiana deserve that so they can have long-term sustainable jobs. >> harry reid has turned the rubberstamp for barack obama to it approving for his agenda. we are $17 trillion in debt, should we be shoving coast guard cutters down their throat? fact of the they cut

the coast guard budget, sometimes i do not agree with what these people say. so colonel try and read the coast guard budget and talk to the commander, they need to capitalise. i intend to help them do it. >> the next question, in keeping with the economic opportunities being for the moment the median income for an african-american households in the united states is roughly for a white edium even worse in is louisiana. what do you think is a cause of this disparity and is it something that needs to be addressed now?

>> if you own stock properties you have done really well if you're in the lowest quartile you have been handled. because of obama care, they have seen their salaries suffer and that power was reduced because of obama care. the employers respectively say it is because of obama care and not just louisiana. by the way it is known that this would happen, if you passes mandate employers will or lower people off than ours. i would oppose it again she is saying that they just took 400 lower paid workers and took them from full

to part-time, eyecare and i would appeal to replace obama. >> i would pull it out from to roots, it's un-american start destroying jobs. the role of government is to create the environment so that jobs can be created and that's what we do when we unleash our energy sector that's what we do me get out of our way of our commercial fishermen and let do their jobs in letting them do it the way they can do it. we create jobs, that's the answer to poverty. we have spent over $23

trillion, we're not doing the right thing, we're doing the same thing over and over again and unemployment are young black men in this state is three times the rate of unemployment than anyone else. the answer to poverty is to get businesses to thrive and create jobs. >> anyone here at lsu would know that one of the answer to is racism.ion women sometimes couldn't teach schools if they were not married. not only do african-americans have a lower income but the average net worth is only $5000. for hispanic family it is only $6000. we have a lot of work to do. very back to sennett and let me create these energy jobs