make sure that the local outcomes become what the revolutionaries wanted. are you making any effort to unify the youth across the country to become part of your group or comply with your motivations? the youth movement that has started is a unique group in egypt who has access to the internet, computers, western ideology, cultural sink of democracy. but some are more confined in their political understandings and actions. what you think? -- what do you think? what are your goals with that? >> all of the groups are united against the regime. our main goal is to take down the regime.

the first step was to make sure mubarak was gone. there were many debates and discussion about what is next. there has been discussion about [speaking arabic] ideas of the country. we took part in discussions between many groups. after the revolution, we found hundreds of youth movements every day. it is so strange -- after a revolution with as many parties and groups, with demands of their own, now groups are united about the same demons. how to decrease the election. and make armies into camps

again. now we are discussing together, the parties and youth movements, to find the schedule of decrees for the same period. we try to find a united map or schedule. we made a campaign between the youth groups and political parties, including the islamic. -- including the muslim brotherhood. the senate gets and the -- some -- syndicates and the unions are increasing in that period. all of the groups will agree with us. but we cannot make united organizations. the main goals, not

organizations. >> are you going to go outside of the balance of these local organizations and across the entire egyptian territory? >> we tried to do that. we have been talking to people every day. we try to get members, we try to talk with the people to join any organization. and we would take time to do that. >> what can the elected do, if you see any role for them at all? -- what can the u.s. do, if you see any role for them at all? to stop the counterrevolutionary activities? [speaking arabic] >> i do not agree with pressure using americans only.

before the revolution, there were supporting mubarak. the considered him the solution. -- they considered him the solution. the key of many issues in egypt. during the revolution, we saw the direction of the american government just watching who is the winner. they will support the winner at the end. i think they support the government. the talk about their rule and the schedule and things like that. i think mainly support the people, not that scaraf and tho government. they will support the government all -- it will support democracy all over the world. they will stop any regime

against the people. they must change the behaviors with other countries. the must not support -- they -- they it must not support israel, for example. they must consider the rights of palestinians. they must support the people by investments, by trying to support their education. i think it will be good support to the egyptians. >> i am from the u.s. state department. you mentioned earlier that the media still has a lot of the same faces that existed before the revolution, saying many of the same things against what you're trying to accomplish. i understand that there is more freedom in the media since the revolution happened. what do you regard as the good,

new centers of investigative journalism in the country? where do people get accurate information? do you think that the people are listening to those good sources or you think they're listening to the traditional sources that are against what you're trying to accomplish? >> the new sources or the official media? >> more in the sense of tradition. it could be online, but reporting. where do people go if they want accurate, reliable information these days? [speaking arabic] >> some people in the poor areas, depending on the state tv and national tv in egypt.

there is also cable television or private channels and the internet. but the national tv is playing political truth. -- a very important role. they are under control from the scaraf. we are trying to find new ways to reach people. we also must cancel any control from the government to the national tv and newspapers. they allow for freedom, but they control many things in the media. new media, they cannot control. but they are making investigation with some bloggers talking about the government. they cannot control the new media, but they have control

over the national tv and many private channels which goes by the ndb guys from the workers regime. there are now three new channels. they are trying to establish a new channel. >> thank you for coming. it is good to see you again. my question is about your tactics. the tactic of demonstration has decreased in popularity in egypt. the public opinion suggests that they are very much approach -- very much opposed to long demonstrations. how are you thinking about shifting your tactics to deal with the elections and the transition moving forward? >> we will not depend on demonstration only. our main goal -- that is to make the people as a part of

the political movement. to make more people involved in egypt. we are demonstrating when we see that we will need demonstrating. our main goal is to connect with the people and get people involved with in their communities. we try to improve our message to make the people the solutions. we have a campaign called "you are a solution." talking about the criteria of parliament members in a white circles and black circles. how to choose good them -- how to choose good men in the

parliament. >> i am with national public radio. you initially mentioned in the amount of community people had in terms of getting barack out of office. -- mubarak of office. now looks like things are in disarray. i am wondering what concerns you the most? what really worries you that you think could derail everything? >> nothing. we continue. groups will do the best to continue the revolution. we are pushing for the common interest between the groups and all of the groups agree with how to continue the revolution. >> any other questions for the

audience? >> i m. serra from the commission of security cooperation in europe. i am wondering what your approach to the caustic -- coptic christians increase in violence is? >> we supported the christian right's before the revolution. some of our members were arrested in demonstration to support christians in december before the revolution. because we are calling for equality, for citizenship in egypt. after the revolution, we are talking about the church and mosques. and trying to ban any -- yes.

but the garment is late to apply this. -- the government is late to apply this. we advise that we want to do that very quickly. what happened is there are no clashes between muslims and christians. what happened is the army attacked the people in the streets. they shot many people in the streets. they tried to ban the demonstration at that time. the national media used the same ways to attack the army.

you must protect the army. muslims went to the streets to try to defend the army against the christians. they are the reason of what happened that day. to investigate about that issue, and to end the control from the government to the national tv and to make the media more free and increase their respectability. yes. it can cause many troubles if they talk about these things. >> you're going to attempt a conference for egyptian-

americans from friday-sunday. it will deal with egyptian rights and talking about the politics in egypt and the future of egypt. what message do you want to give to the egyptian-americans living here? what would you like for them to do to support egypt? [speaking foreign language] thank you so much. >> and my message to the egyptian-americans is that they can help egypt by more investment. they can help egypt by pressure to the rights for voting to the egyptian league. they must make pressure on that. they must make pressure about

the military elections. because we heard about watching the elections, not just monitoring. we need real observation and direction. we may allow the foreign observers toward egypt. >> i'm with the international foundation for electoral systems. i was wondering if you could talk about the activities of the april 6 movement and context of the election. will you be endorsing any candidates? or trying to educate people on what their rights are, where the polling stations are taxed if you could talk about those activities. >> that is divided into three

stages. the first page -- which started two months ago talking about the rights of voting, about elections, about the white circle and black circle. we did have it candidates in that definition. -- we did not have candidates in that election. but we are talking about the criteria for a good guy and bad guy. we will try to band nbdb -- to ban the ndb guys from winning in those elections. they talk about revolution but they are from the ndb party. that is the first stage.

talk to the people and talk about what the criteria of good guys and bad guys are. dealing with the process, we will have a process to monitory the elections. a foreign ngo. we are the organizer and have a network of persons to do that. we have our own website. we will publish what happens and we have experienced from several leagues to make a proper monitoring, to get the people involved. sending video immediately and publishing that at the same time. and sending to all newspapers and ngo's at the same time. after the process go-moku -- after the process, we will make our watchdog group and get daily reports about what is going on in parliament. what they vote for, what the behavior with the people in his

neighborhood is. it uses up 42, using that authority in his business. anything that you look for, we will mention and make monitoring the parliament member less about parliament -- about councils, national councils. we will have candidates for that, because it is not authority of parliament or government. it is people in service. we will monitor the behavior of the government. and about the parliamentary elections, we will support someone. for now, we do not know we support. we will support programs and wait for speeches. then we will decide our movement. >> we are in washington, as you

know. we spend a lot of time during analysis on the other parts of the world. it is incredibly refreshing to hear from you directly about your experiences in egypt. one of mike alois is optimistic -- one of my takeaways is how optimistic you are when the question was posed to you about the challenges facing each of going for. you answered by saying, the revolution moves forward. you cannot stop it. what are the things that you have look for? what would have to happen for you to start to worry? and what is something that would sound alarm bells in your head sanctuary would say, this is not good? this is where we have to shift in the movement? give us a sense of that. >> the obstacles to the problem? >> yes, the obstacles. what would you ftc to be worried about it? -- what would you have to see to be worried about it? >> if we are not united in egypt at this moment, it will also be a great danger.

it will allow a hijacking from the government, the revolution. there are many obstacles, but i'm optimistic because there are many groups. we will do everything to be successful or continue the revolution. it will take time, because we want to change the regime. we want to change the mentality of the people. we want to change everything in egypt. it will take time. >> if you could join me in thanking ahmed maher. [applause] >> on today's "washington journal," a discussion of state and federal education funding with randi weingarten. then we will talk with tucker carlson of the "daily caller"

about the republican presidential race. and then a look at the largest banks. yalman onaran of "bloomberg businessweek" is our guest. "washington journal" each morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. janet napolitano will testify about homeland security oversight. live coverage from the senate judiciary committee at 10:00 a.m. eastern. after that, natalie cole will be at the national press club talking about hepatitis c. the singer was diagnosed with the disease during a recent blood testing 2008 -- during a routine blood test in 2008. that gets underway at 1:00 p.m. eastern. >> because i am a businessman, of which incidently i'm very proud, and was formally connected with a large company, the subsequent errors of the opposition have attempted to picture me as an opponent of

liberalism. but i was a liberal for many of those men heard the word. and i fought for the reforms of theodore roosevelt and woodrow wilson before another roosevelt adopted and distorted the word liberal. >> he was a member of the democratic party for over 20 years, switching in 1940. wendell willkie sought and won the republican nomination for president. although the loss, he left his mark in political history, speaking up for civil-rights and becoming a foreign ambassador for his former opponent, frank and roosevelt. he is one of the 14 men featured in the new weekly series. live from in the end of friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. -- from indiana at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> this weekend, six republican candidates travel to des moines to the iowa faith and freedom coalition. watch our live coverage of herman cain, newt gingrich, rick

santorum, as well as rick perry, ron paul, and michele bachmann on c-span's "road to the white house." >> now former mexican president this into a fox talks about the violence in mexico -- vicente bachus talks about the violence in mexico and legalizing drugs. his speech at the cato institute is 35 minutes. >> the united states has been fighting drug trafficking for years. it has not stop drugs from being

readily available and consumed in this country at decreasing prices and quality. during this time, washington has led an increasingly aggressive war on drugs internationally. that has also been a policy that has proven it that tend to stop drug use. if the supply side campaign against drugs has had high costs. it comes at a high price for drug transit and drug producing countries, and in reference to those costs, the late nobel laureate milton friedman quoted, as a nation, we have been destroying foreign countries because we cannot enforce our own laws. nowhere is the harm of prohibition, i think, more apparent than in mexico, a country that has seen a dramatic increase in violence, including more than 40,000 drug-related

killings since it began to aggressively prosecute the war on drugs, beginning at the end of the year 2006. journalists and politicians have been intimidated and killed, newspapers have stopped reporting the activities of drug cartels, cities have become militarized, and corruption has spread through police departments and other agencies of local and federal government in mexico. it is ironic that they are prosecuting the war on drugs at that time when public opinion in the united states is increasingly critical of drug policy here, and indeed is more supportive of ever of finding other alternatives. for example, a new gallup poll just came out around our record 50% of americans support the legalization of marijuana. that is up from 12% in 1969 and 25% in the mid-1990s.

70% of americans support the use of medical marijuana, and 16 u.s. states plus washington, d.c. have already legalized such use. my colleague of serve the public support for pop legalization now was greater than the approval rating of president obama, the u.s. congress, the u.s. supreme court, and every gop presidential candidate. [laughter] one of the reason is that americans are rethinking the current approach is not just because of its utter failure in its cost in terms of increased crime and violations of civil liberties. i believe that mexico is planning a large role in changing opinion. it is not far away country, like colombia or peru. is not an abstract concept. if americans are very familiar with mexico and have a great if any -- great affinity with mexicans. it is one of the most important relationships that the united states has.

mexico is now on display as exhibit a on the effectiveness of the drug war. americans are seeing violence spilling over the border, and the drug war that is working at cross purposes. mexican and u.s. policies, including the promotion of liberal democracy and civil society. goals that mexicans had worked so hard to achieve of the past several decades. and to be sure, the debate in mexico is also changing. that is why i am honored and delighted to be able to introduce our speaker today. he is playing a leading and i should say courageous role in that debate. challenging the status quo in mexico and on the global stage. former. presidentsvicente fox has become an outspoken critic of prohibition and joins the growing number of world figure is around the world: for policies that treat drug abuse

as a social problem rather than a criminal problem. i should say that a number of those leaders, including former -- a former brazilian president and a mexican ambassador will be speaking at a major cato institute's conference here on november 15, and in the global war on drugs. you can find more information about that at our website, cato.org. it is my pleasure to introduce president fox. he was president of mexico from the year 2000 to 2006, and he will be remembered in mexican history, among other things, for having broken more than 70 years of single party rule in that country, thus obviously contributing to the democratization of mexico. his presidency was characterized

by economic stability, which has led to the steady growth of mexico's middle class, a phenomenon that i think is tremendously important for the development of the country. and that transition to the next administration in mexico after president fox was also marked by economic stability, setting his presidency apart from too many presidents who left office while also generating economic crises. today, president fox heads an organization. please help me welcome president fox. [applause] >> [speaking spanish]

thank you very much to the cato institute by giving us this opportunity to meet here together and explore some idea and make a review of the state of things in mexico related to the drug case. so thank you very much for this invitation. we're very pleased to be here, and we have the same dream when we decided to move from the private sector to public life and run first for congress and then governor and the presidency of mexico. she has been my speaker, she has

been a communications strategist, she is reporting back to our web page in mexico. and we both after finishing the responsibility and the honor of being president decided to build the first presidential library outside the united states. it is the first experience that we decided to build where my grandfather came, and migrating from cincinnati, ohio to mexico, looking for his american dream. that is the way migration was then. from the states to mexico. he settled though -- he settled there in that is where we build the library. we have had a home there and she is very active in our think tank activity is working on public

policies to combat poverty, to promote education, and housing. so there you have a home. anytime you come to mexico, please have a visit. i will start by throwing some ideas, and maybe provoking ideas, and then your questions will be on specific issues, because it is thinking about this last remaining prohibition and the world, now that most prohibitions have been stopped, starting with the prohibition of eating apples at the garden of eden -- [laughter] down to the chicago prohibition 100 years ago, and the most recent cases of abortion, which

today in our constitution is left to the responsibility of women what they want to do in that case, and even the now authorized and formally prohibited marriage between people of the same sex. we might get the frontier of the last prohibition remaining of this year -- we might be at the frontier of the last prohibition remaining in this world. the mechanism of choice and making it our responsibility is much more strong than enforcing a prohibition and enforcing the law. i remember that in ecuador, and

they are expressed that there is no better police than the one we each have within ourselves by the limits we impose by ethical and moral activities that we carry within ourselves. so we are at the very moment for this issue of choice, especially this so-called idea of the war on drugs? even that word war should not be followed in this case. there many nations where it is not a crime to consume drugs. starting with mexico. mexico, it is not a crime to consume drugs. it is still so in this nation. other nations have taken the step forward to legalize drug

consumption, like you haven't hollen or portugal. -- like you had in holland or portugal. so we must see different sides of it. i will start by saying mexico -- colombia kids being in the business of drug, and today after the war on drugs, there's still strong production of drugs coming from colombia, venezuela and, ecuador, some mexico just happens to the between those who produce and those who consume. and a great consumer of drugs in this world is this nation. it is estimated over $50 billion u.s. code to drugs consumed in this nation.

-- go to drugs consumed in this nation. once across the border, those huge caches of drugs, what happens with them? the we have the epa in the caa and other enforcement institutions, -- the cia and other enforcement institutions? whether destiny your or seattle or dissent francisco, or everywhere in the states. -- whether it goes to seattle or san francisco or new york are everywhere in the state's -- or everywhere in the states? try to get it out there so we do not get in trouble here.

let's keep them there. there is a request of holding the drug down there. i am sure you are aware of the price we're paying in mexico for doing this job. to start with, 50,000 lives, from 15-25 years old have been killed in the last 10 years. another 50,000 are killed. they're working for the cartels today -- so 150,000 kids that were not born criminals, that do not carry on the gene of criminality, and still i did

they pay it with their light, or they are working for the cartels. the conclusion should be that somewhere along the path and the journey of these kids, they lost their way. maybe they lost their way because the father decided to migrate, looking for a better life in the station, looking for some additional income to bring back to their families, and so he left the women back there educating the kids, taking the kids to school. but under educate -- no time to educate, and right from that very beginning this inclination the father of a father, but maybe those kids decided later that they won a scholarship --

they wanted a scholarship to high school or college university. only 2% of kids in mexico today are attending university. 78% are not. they do not have that opportunity. just for the sake of comparison, in korea, 83% of kids are in the university. 83%, much more than what happens in this nation nor europe. opportunity is the key ingredient on this problem we are discussing right now, and we must think about it. there is one organization in san diego, california, which dedicates his efforts --

dedicates its efforts, who was a christian, who was a gang member, who was a criminal, who was a drug addict, and sunday he followed st. paul, he reacted and decided to get out of the world and joined and found this organization. and so he dedicates his life to pulling out kids that are trouble and bring them back in. to a good way. to make of light. and kids except that. if they do have the opportunity, that would change from what they are doing to doing something that will be much better for them, for their happiness, and for their future. but ok, so mexico is in between and we're paying that kind of price. we are also paying the price of

the decrease of foreign direct investment. we're paying the price of the reduction on all flow of tourism to mexico. all businesses are being severely affected, especially in the northern parts of mexico. our business community, the businesses are moving out of the country, to dallas, houston, san diego, you can find even some of them up to taranto. -- toronto. they moved out with their families. that is not good for the growth and the opportunities that we have to have four kids. the image of mexico today,

especially here in the states, they say, what is the matter with those mexicans? what has happened with them? are they drinking too much tequila? and the answer is that what i am saying, unfortunately, when the image is bad, you are in trouble for you have -- you're in trouble for the future. how do we get out of this trap? which we do not deserve. we just happen to be in this trap. and we say money laundering, let's cut the supply of money to the criminals. most of the money laundering is done here in this nation. all the weapons that are brought down to equip the cartels, the

ammunition, the grenades, they are coming from this nation. and many other things. so we have to think of new ideas, and we start by reviewing the legality, the breaking the law that we find in every other government of the world, starting with this one here. those billions of dollars, who collects, who consumes, who is breaking the law? whether in madrid downtown london, drugs are everywhere. so it seems to me a greater

acceptance or tolerance that is not publicly except it, but it is right there. no other government has said, that is sick, no more drugs to our kids and to the kids in the united states. so he could the same war on drugs. i do not see that going on here. i do not see it in spain or greece or anywhere. the same wars are taking us know where, according to my understanding, because violence does not decrease violence. be a much better means to face this task that we have ahead.

the legalization has ethical and moral qualities. who is at the end responsible for consuming drugs? directly, the consumer. indirectly, the parents, that we did not educate correctly. we did not inform them enough how harmful drugs are to their health. how they're going to waste their lives, how they can be way apart from -- happiness as far as it can be found in this world. educating, and forming, -- informing, it is a key issue to

promote. why should we ask government to do the job for us that we're not doing as parents or as a school system? how can we think that government is going to put our kids into a bubble or crystal so they can i reach out for drugs? -- so they cannot reach out for drugs? it has never happened and it will not happen. i think it is crucial that we change the policies and strategies. globally, i discuss this last remaining prohibition. see the fundamentals of the and maybe that would will -- that would be one way of getting out of the trap.

imagine what portugal obtained by taking away from criminals this amount of money. imagine what it would take away from criminals, those $50 billion raised here in the states every year, and we put it into the hands of government. so then we can educate and inform and prevent and do the job. in the case of mexico, the army is not prepared for doing police work. armies are mostly accepting violations of human rights.

armies are for other purposes. because of national security, are raised in some time to violate human rights or the due process of citizens, let it happen in one town. they still keep those guys there. now for 3 or four years, ended due process, where is it? but a violation of rights, and that is going on in mexico. you hear on the news everyday different groups there, appointed as criminals and giving up the records of criminality, when they have not even gone to the prosecutor,

much less the judge and been publicly accused. so the army should go back to their headquarters as soon as possible, and thinking that the army air reaching the solution, we're not moving fast enough in building the police force that we need to meet the criminals and to enforce the law. and by the way, it is not enforcement, not to choose one of the other, but we have had the strategies -- have to add the strategy is to get faster out of this trap.

we have 350,000 police, many of them at the state level, and a few of them higher. we need one strong institution did deal with the duty of enforcing the law. about integrating the police, so that we have many that account for over 300,000 people in those courts. who is going to go up to the state level, how long will that process takes, so the only thing i am saying is that we have to move fast on this. the one thing i have learned

here, because in mexico this issue is highly politicized, so you see the attack coming out and he brings his friends are who we things as the experts in supporting the police, and then someone new and brings in new people. nothere's no seniority, professional as asian -- professionalization of the corps. many sheriffs are elected directly by the people with no parties participating. people directly electing these insurance. -- sheriffs.

: as professionals offer their services to become sheriffs. so building the reliable police force we need is an absolute urgency in mexico. legalization, i already spoke about. but mexico cannot take that step by itself. portugal did not request a permit from the european union to undertake their own decision and legalize and portugal, as we see in the capito report. -- in the cato report. that is an option, but the most important one is building up tourism. what is nafta?

it has powerful tools to move our economies, to make our 3 economies competitive, to protect jobs here in the united states and in canada and in mexico, all three who were losing jobs to asia. our reaction should be a powerful new vision of nafta to build up opportunities. also, the case of immigration. saying that building walls, the problem of migration will be solved, i think it would be a great mistake. like prohibition, walls do not work. we can do much better than that sitting down and discussing the strategy is for immigration.

look at this guy is saying that he would put electric wire on top offenses so that people would die. -- on top of the fence so that people will die. it is in credible going on in the 200-year-old democracy, they gave us so much inspiration, they gave a so many good ideas. it is incredible we can i come to an agreement. it is like a cat and dog. when the station does not solve the economy of the united states, we are in trouble in mexico. that would be a good way to solve this problem of violence

and drugs, by growing the economy and by extending the jobs and the opportunities to your people. there things that are highly related and have to do with opportunities for these kids that today do not have them. mexico is going now into an election. we love and a president next year. i hope by all means that contrary to the ineffectiveness at the moment, that they cannot build consensus or bring in solutions, i hope in the case of mexico democracy will be the refreshing, solid values they come with answers when you need them the most.

and i do hope that this next will bring in new ideas to confront the problem of crime and drugs, and it will also bring new strategies for new public policies like happened in iraq. thinking that president bush would withdraw from the strategy that he launched with such passion, but obama came in and changed it. they withdrew. i think that mexico can find a way out of this trap in this next electoral process. and that is my best wishes for that to happen, because otherwise, i mean, we're not going to be there for the future.

mexico was one of the leading democratic nations and the well, one of the great nations to invest, we have to come back to our passion. in five years we lost so many. in my term, the mexican economy as 25% bigger than the brazilian economy. today the brazilian economy is 50% bigger than the mexican economy. rise in growothers and we are stagnant and we're still going nowhere. so i am finished, and i would love to hear from you in this dialogue. [applause] >> the senate will hold a joint oversight hearing on the epa

browns field program this morning. they are contaminated with toxic substance that this -- the property is cleaned up, and then develop. that hearing gets underway at 10:00 a.m. mr. and on c-span -- eastern on c-span3. >> because i am a businessman -- incidently, of which i am very proud and formally connected with a large company -- the opposition has attempted to picture me as an opponent of liberalism. but i was a level for many of those men heard the word. i thought for the reforms of theodore roosevelt and woodrow wilson will for another roosevelt adopted and distorted it the word liberal. >> he was a member of the democratic party for over 20 years. switching in 1940, when bill

will be sought and won the republican nomination for president. although we lost the election, he left his mark and political history, speaking out for civil- rights of becoming a foreign ambassador for his former opponent, franklin roosevelt. wendell willkie as one of the 14 men featured in our new weekly series live from indiana, friday, at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> "washington journal" business. we will take your calls, e- mails, and tweets. this morning, janet napolitano will be on capitol hill testifying about the nation's security, immigration, and violence along the southern border. that senate judiciary committee hearing gets underway at 10:00 a.m. eastern. this afternoon, natalie cole will be at the national press club talking about hepatitis c. she was diagnosed with the disease in 2008. lott -- watch live coverage at e