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tv   Fmr. Rep. Liz Cheney in Conversation With Jon Meacham  CSPAN  May 17, 2024 9:49pm-10:50pm EDT

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>> on saturday former president donald tmpembers of the national rifle association at their annual mti in dallas. watch live coverage on 3:40 p.m. on c-span, susie and now in our free mobile video app or on our network. former congresswoman cheney on a bio: john meacham will held a conversation on democracy and how leaders put principles ahead of politics. it was part of the washington national international cathedral speaker series. it is about an hour. cotton. [applause] [applause]
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- thank you. >> this is the only case in which liz cheney is to myen lef. [laughter] background like a softball. >> a little hanging fruit but it tastes good so you take it. we weret both pleased they told us this was an easter crowd and we were pleased we did go through although sometimes washington is that we does anybody and will thank you all for being here, thank you to congresswoman cheney and through a rare quality and so many. thank you. >> thank you very much.
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>> let's start on january 6, 2021 oregon you get up, you think it's way to be another day at the office? >> is such a wonderful privilege to be here with the bishop gone and with don who not only the historian lori who is the voice of our age as an american korean. very grateful for all that you have done. [applause] waterworld that is why we are in the trouble that we're in, right there. >> i'm especially grateful that john meacham will introduce related mcgraw and faith hill, they are the willis people i ever met. >> unknown list for 25 years and she's never said anything nice
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to me until we introduced her to tim mcgraw and she was like wow, i am actually cool, that was great. >> democrats are much cooler than republicans i've learned. january 6 itself, as you well know and many of you walk i'm sure lives through watching what was happening was the day that we never should have had to live through you and we knew there had been some indication of in the run-up to january 6, obviously even in real-time that
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there had to be concerned about violence. court orders, we know now because of the work on the select any geisha that is on on what exactly what the planning wasn't how expensive it was very and hold a very direct role that donald trump played in managing the entire plan to overthrow the election including what went on anyway six. we will but as we awoke that day i anticipated we were clearly going inevitably about the vote. i had planned to 70 waterworld and explain and know why it was a constitution where the house to a jack and congressman jack told were a legitimate wall electoral vote and why i was writing myy speech will mop the floor of the house, mye, dad called me you said are you
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wanting president trump and i wasn't thinking i was working on my remark and he said to the president just said we need to get rid of the liz cheney's of the world and my dad said you are in the lord, you only talk about a target and we need to talk about what that means and whether or not are you should proceed with your remarks. we had a conversation. i can hear my dance voice will follow mostly how angry and thas he was at the father's will but also how heartbroken he was for our country that this was happening. we discussed and it was clear i had to go ahead with my remarks, i cannot let the threat from the president that you said okay, call me as soon as you are finished like and i did not have a chance to ever deliver the remarks because by the time that
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part of the debate was supposed to happen the mob and had a child. and as the mob was banging on the doors were in we were getting report that they were coming closer and closer to the chamber over well, my overwhelming feeling was anger on and i could not believe this was happening in the united states of america intercom will. at one point the capitol police officers were giving us some dates that you need to take howard behind in the chamber and if the mob breaks through you have to cover in one of my colleagues came over to me and said you cannot take cover, is a breakthrough you have to run you won't be safe. and the other change that day
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was with jim jordan and jim and i i'll give you a little bit of background. the first time i met him was one of my days of congress will and we were in a meeting of the republican members and he came over and he sat down once again he said you want to join the freedom and freedom cognizant of any of no his room and very approach from members of congress and i think i told you long to respond because he immediately john in july like why he was asking. this is pretty much verbatim that we don't have any women and we need one so really it was
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really attempting offer. >> is a real sweet talk real smooth. >> on the sixth while i was standing in the island chamber was more involved. >> gym that was more involved member and probably any other memberem of congress in terms of working with donald trump over and the planning for overturning the election, he came over to me as the mob was trying to break through you when you get the ladies off the aisle, not a hollow water and i swatted his hand away and i will not really in the cathedral everything i said to him but made clear i did not leave his home. it was clear to me right away i
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believe donald trump you bmp and removed from office immediately, it was a clear. >> your family has been a vital part of the american story really since the late 19 '80s work and somebody of damages of that terrible day of september 11, 2001, your father, your mother are part of the it. you are associated with the threat to constitutional democracy government internal enemy is opposed to an x terminal below, you think about september 11 that? day?
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>> about it i thought about it. very much all when i saw the voted vice president pence being evacuated down the capital we are not immediately brought to my mind there is my dad on december 11 being evacuated by client agent named scott who evacuated my dad down the steps of the white house long into the bunker and when i saw the videos on my hands being evacuated it was such a clear realization that when my dad was evacuated it was because america was saying in the rat from al-qaeda airplanes have been hijacked and they will why that one may fly into the white house and when vice president pence was evacuated work of course because
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of the rental from our own citizens that were being instigated and incited by her own resident. i remember you, night of 9/11 from the oval office, he said the terrorists can shake the foundations of our biggest building, but they cannot shake the foundations of our democracy. and i believed strongly that the threat we face today is one that does threaten the foundations. and i think that it is important to remember how grave that is. i want to say a couple things. my mom and dad are watching, so i want to say hello to my mom and my dad. and -- bush and her sister,
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trisha, i want to say hello to them as well. t [applause] and sitting close to them on my husband phil and my daughter elizabeth. both of whom were on the select committee and so very grateful for them for a whole bunch offu reasons. >> we want to talk to you later about what it's like being married to the margaret thatcher of yellowstone. [laughter] if we can do that. ied worked on that one. it's not a great image. >> 's no, stay with us for a minute. you're going to use that in iowa sunday. you will be in des moines saying i'm the margaret thatcher of yellowstone. since we are talking about george h.w. bush we should stipulate this but i was honored to be president bush's
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biographer and at one point in 2011, 2012 he told me that one of the things he thought about both liz chaney and lynne cheney, your mother is that there was a certain and flexibility on the part of the chaney women. which only jared -- george herbert walker bush could do and he rendered as you know they are iron. i went back to president bush and i said sir you said this and he said i said it. i will say this, i am sure of fewer things than george h.w. bush is watching liz chaney right now. [applause]
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>> i do have to tell you though after the book came out my mother's birthday was shortly after the book came out and we actually had features me that my mother's picture on one side and on o the either side of said stm iron. i didn't know you were allowed to say that word here. >> i think you can ride money off of that. i really do, i really do. talk about this. your father was president ford's chief of staff. he was george h.w. bush's secretary of defense by spread in the united states. this is not his party. it's not george h.w. bush's party, it's not george w. bush'r party. put on your historians have. what happened to the republican party?
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>> that's a big topic. i think several things. first of all there was and there remains i think a very real sense in many parts of our country that they are there people who feel that their voices aren't heard and i know when i was representing wyoming congress that was certainly the case. people feel as though the federal government is making decisions that affect their lives and that they don't have a voice in what donald trump did, and i have to pause for a minute and tell you what it means in the cathedral. on this, but the former president did was to tap into that but to do it in a way that
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clearly betrays people in the light to people so that's part of it. part of it is a of personality. i think it's very important to think about the people who were supporting the former president. you can't describe the people who are supporting him. you can't attribute the same characteristics to all of his supporters. they are some people that he really has betrayed and who believe what he is saying and believes the lie. very many good americans, patriotic americans who have absolutely had their patriotism turned intoan a weapon. they are also people, and i actually think these people are even more dangerous. they are the people who know he is a grave threat, who know that what he is doing is dishonest
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and, but you have decided to be enablers, collaborators and that describes many of the elected officials in today's republican party. and i don't know --- [applause] i will give you one example from the last 24 hours. the republican candidate for senate in pennsylvania is a man named dave mccormick who served honorably, served in the military, served the nation honorably and served in both i believe the bush administration and the trump administration. he knows better. he knows that donald trump is not fit for office and get in the last 24 hours he has been circulating an endorsement that donald trump made of him.
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donald trump is standing in the hallway outside the courtroom in new york and he endorsed mccormick and mccormick is now -- that endorsement which you know that sort of behavior from somebody who absolutely knows better creates a permission structure for people to support the former president and i think that everyone who has taken an oath to the constitution, everyone who wants to serve inwh public office have to be willing to say that this is wrong. it's not about policy. this is wrong and it's a threat to the constitution. but that is sort of excusing and appeasing still goes on although the last point on this will be that in that same primary in pennsylvania yesterday i think
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close to something like 26 or 27% of republican voters in the primary voted for nikki haley and she's not even in the race anymore. [applause] so i think at the end of the day the baggage that the former president has clearly will have repercussions at the ballot box. if this were about policy nikki haley would be the republican nominee i think. >> and we would win if she was the republicanaby nominee. >> i leave that to others. but she would be the nominee and it would be a fascinating race. so let me ask you about this partisan mindset because for all of our joking about it i'm actually not a democrat and i'm not a republican.ok i've voted for presence in both parties and the gap is narrowing as time goes by.
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i don't understand the mindset and it's an honest failure to understand, the mindset of the voter who would cast their vote for a clearly illiberal proto-authoritarian, a man who is my pants had not done what he did might have well created so much chaos that the most nice presidential election ever, the 2020 election, full free and fair 60 judges and we all know the numbers. they will not vote for president biden because of the letter next to his name, because he's a democrat and i'm thinking not
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least about the former attorney general bill barr who last week i think in a moment of wild hyperbole said well i have to vote for donald trump because four more years of president biden is quote national suicide. you listen to that and it's just to me it's generally beyond the bounds of reason. your mother is a biographer of james madison and the point of the madisonian contract was to give reason a chance to at least take a stand against that kind of passion. what do you say and you must get this alot, two republicans who say yeah he's biden is going to sink us all. what is your response? >> well first of all my responses this is not a policy
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election. we can survive a night of policy disagreements in areas of agreement almost -- also with president biden but we can survive water policies but we can't survivet the president who's willing to torch the constitution. [applause] >> and what did they say baquet was what did they say back to you? >> it's interesting because i think that part of what is happening is a reflexivesa partisanship and it's a sense of you know, look, republicans vote voted for the republican nominee and the democrat votes for the democratic nominee and i think as a nation all of us have to do everything we can to pull us back from the abyss of toxic
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partisan political dialogue and look at something that anybody who has been in public life i'm confident has said things they wish they hadn't said. i certainly have. one of the things that i learned when i was working on my book was that when speaker pelosi wanted to come to the select committee not everybody on her staff thought was that that was the world's best ideas so one of the members of her staff went to her with a list and it was the top 10 things liz chaney is ever said about nancy pelosi. spending but there were more than 10. it was the top 10. >> i have an ecstasy in this document that i can imagine exactly what was on it. but to her great credit the speaker looked at the piece of paper and she said why are you
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bothering me with things that don't matter and handed it back. the point was we are in a moment now where we have to save the constitutionon and jaime raskin was a deer friend and a fellow member of the committee with me -- [applause] jamian i would joke we really look forward to the days when he and i can beoo disagreeing again to mean that we have righted the ship but i think in terms of this election cycle it's so important for us to be thinking about how do we make sure that people understand the danger of a vote for the republican nominee and that people who are on the fence, who are unsure about it that they understand if he were to be elected again we
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know what he would do. because we know what he attempted to do. he attempted to seize power. he attempted to overturn an election. tomorrow the supreme court will be hearing arguments about hismo claim that a president is a completely immune from prosecution for any criminal conduct while he's in office. and it's really important for people to stop by think and remember if we are a nation of laws only because their chief executive enforces the rulings ofe our courts. the courts cannot enforce their own rulings and if you have a president who's unwilling to do that the system unravels immediately. that's the danger that we face. he will not happen up as the people that he had around him before who stopped some of the
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most dangerous things he attempted and if you look at episodes like the threat of mass resignation, the white house council's office the justice department when the former president had appointed jeff clark to be attorney attorney general and they were trying to stop him. the threatt that stopped him was that there would be mass resignation and that would damage him politically. if he were to be in office again, he would welcome mass resignation. he wants to be rid of people who opposed him and imagine what he will do with the pardongn power. as citizens of this nation we really have to force ourselves to think about things that normally you could say would never happen here but that's the threat that a second trump term poses. >> our friend mike donnellan is here former senior adviser to
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president biden. mike has a point that in many ways we choose to be as polarized as we are. that is it's not as if and it's not as if this is an alien invasion. voters get to some extent what we deserve and there is no doubt about as you were saying what's at stake here. he told us and the former president has been very clear both indeed and in word about what would result from this. how do you make the case to those republicans who are reachable, to make a different choice >> i mean look first of all what
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we are seeing around the country both in the primary and we saw last night as well as in the republican primaries throughout thema season has been numbers of people who republicans who say they won't vote for him that make it very difficult for him to actually, for trump to win the general election. people do understand on some level. people are frustrated with the choice that i think it's pretty clear especially as we get to the general election that you have a significant number of republicans who won't vote for him. i also think in matters of national security policy because sometimes you hear republicans say well our national security i have to be with him. no president in american history
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has ever done what donald trump did in terms of welcoming an enemy, an adversary to invade our allies which is what he did recently welcoming putin to invade nato and its threats to withdraw united states from nato is a return to isolationism and frankly his ties to putin and the influence, the growing influence of the republican party of vladimir putin, that's another way that this is not the republican party of ronald reagany and his those voices in our party have to be willing to stand up against say we are going to do things like vote for the package of assistance to ukraine that recently passed the house and the senate. [applause]
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how encouraged are you buy that vote? do you believe that mike johnson's road to key up moment is genuine? do you take comfort from that vote and a sign that perhaps a different choice will be made? >> i think it was absolutely crucial that aid package passed and my own experience working with mike johnson was one in which he showed himself to be willing to do things that he knew were wrong and i wish that he had done this sooner. he had the ability to put the package on the floor much sooner. i'm very glad that he did it now and i'm very glad that it passed. i think part of the antidote to what we have seen both in terms
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of the former personality in the republican party as well as the toxicity and the partisanship is demanding a return to substandard exchanges that are policy-based. i have told you this story before that i keep in my office a picture actually president bush 41 and my father and brent scowcroft and they are in the oval office in president bush is holding a report that my dad has given him called soviet military power 1989 that tells you the date of this. i keep that picture because reminds me of serious people and you can agree or disagree with
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policies getting to a place where you have a majority of republicans willing to say we will listen to the intelligence, we will read the intelligence. we will engage on substance about what is right for america to do in terms of the foreign aid vote, that's the kind of thing that we out to be encouraging and we have to be encouraging legislating based on substance and not reflexively going to our democratic and republican corners. >> a wonderful story, one of the wings of a butterfly that might create a hurricane involves your father. in 1989 you all may remember the only one that would remember what i'm about to say. that's not good for you. you need to get out more. >> wait a minute.
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when jon meacham cause you a you know you're in trouble. >> this is an intervention. the nomination of john tower the senator from texas to be the secretary of defense collapses in 1989. george h.w. bush ony a friday reaches out to a congressman who's on his way up the leaderships ladder in the house named dick cheney or chaney becomes the secretary of defense which opens a slot on the leadership ladder that is filled by newt gingrich. the are restless. >> they are not wrong. >> they are not wrong. [applause] one of my favorite stories about perhaps have we got where we are
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is ben weber than a congressman had run newt gingrich's internal house campaign. george h.w. bush had been a man of the house from 66 to 1970. he asked gingrich and his colleagues ben weber to come to the white house to have a and talk things over. they are sitting there and ben until there's something president bush wants to say but he can't quite say it. they are on their way to the elevator and the lessons and finally weber is standing there with gingrich and says mr. president what worries youou the most about us? president bush is relieved to have this opening and he says i worry that sometimes your idealism may get in the way of what i think of a sound
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government. and weber says i've always appreciated the said ideally. you didn't say nuttiness or even ideology. when you look back on that early 90s late 80s early 90s period with gingrich with pat buchanan got 40% in new hampshire and the america first platform in 1992 and talk about a culture war for the country in houston that year you see the filament of this. can you see filaments now of the cancer to that? you are one of them but when you look around you must hear from people. do you believe there's a reformation in the works and you are in a cathedral so we approv
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of reformation. >> i think that it is necessary that there be a reformation but i don't think passively. ik don't think every american hs a role to play in that and certainly those of us who have been in the republican party in my view have a particular duty because of the danger that is being presented by the nominee of our party but i think, i hope that what people have taken from this lesson of the last three years in many ways and people would say before that but i hope what we have taken from matt is
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how important individual action is and that you know if you look for example republicans sometimes will say things to me and publicly like well our institutions held on january 6. it wasn't so because the institutions held. well the institutions held because of people. they held because of the capitol police on january 6 who prevented far worse. [applause] and they held because of people like rustyse bowers the speaker bears on the statehouse who refused repeatedly the pressure of donald trump to take unconstitutional action because of my pants.
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the individuals who were in positions that matter did the right thing and a lesson for all of us and i'm amazed at how many political leaders seem to view themselves as bystanders. let's ignore trump and he will go away and we don't have to defeat him. no, we actually have to defeat him and we all have to do that not just those who are in elected office. we also all have to hold our elected officials to a higher standard and when i think about the most memorable and important and i hope consequential experiences that i had in the house before the select committee it was times when i was in a debate with somebody who i didn't agree with on whatever the issue was that they were very knowledgeable. if it was another member or
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members who knew what they were talking about and understood why they had arrived with a view they had. i hope i could come to this debate as prepared as they were in when you have that kind of exchange and you show that kind of perspective that's how you get good policy because you are willingg to listen and maybe you change their mind and maybe they change yours but we have to make sure that we are incentivizing elected officials were operating that way and this incentivizing those who are conducting themselves like marjorie taylor greene for example. i'd like to call her moscowi march now. [applause] actually i'm violating my own rule about being serious but i
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would say i think it's important that the people who are conductingay themselves around substance need to be incentivized for doing that and we have toro be willing both to make sure that we are voting for the best candidate but also people need to run for office. people need to put their name on the ballot too make sure we all have good options when we go to vote. >> one of the ways we have come through not dissimilar moments in american history and speaking particularly about the mccarthy era, lincoln's birthday in 1950 it's not until late 1954 that he is censured. margaret chase smith one of your progenitors gives a speech called declaration of conscience in the senate she gets six cosigners, republican senator
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from maine denounces mccarthyism and only 60 grew up there. mccarthy dismissed them as snow in the sixth -- and as usual the women were right. it took another four years for the rest of the senateea to get there. part of that was mccarthy rose to power and eight and radio world and tv hurt him. the mccarthy hearings when he could see him shifted slightly. one of the things before he becomes president he masters the means of communication that have led in many ways afford these enabled and not lead to the toxic climate you are talking about. i am a loss to figure out what the mccarthy like step would be except that we are the
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consumers as you are saying. if we didn't like cable news we wouldn't watch it. it goes back as you were saying to human agency and to people making fundamentally a moral choice. >> i am actually optimistic that choice will be the right one in november and when this decision is put before the american people and we were talking about this earlier the majority of people in this country aren't spending day in and day out thinking about politics usually. but when it comes time to choose the president people will need to be engaged and i think will
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bega engaged and i have great confidence that pretty much any audience at anyplace in this country if he said to them do you want your kids to live in an america with a peaceful transfer of power where that is guaranteed with a president who guarantees it, you know the vast majority of people will say yes. that's what we want and the common sense and good faith and the extent to which i think americans want to be reminded that not only are we a great country but that we are good country and her people are good people. you want your president to be somebody that you are proud for your children to look up to. it's not a partisan issue.
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[applause] >> run for office don't vote for theic republican nominee. what else is on your list >> tell everybody you know not to vote for the republican nominee. but i think commit yourself to remembering how much ultimately our politics really matter and you can't think to yourself and i'm certainly tempted at times to think my gosh this is so and it's a headache and not something that you would choose every day to be involved then but we have to remember what an
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incredible blessing and privilege it is. we get to live in a country where we get to choose their leaders and we get to decide what laws govern us and most people in most periods of history in most places in this world have not had that freedom. we have a responsibility to make sure our kids h know that freedm and they grew up in that country and be active and be engaged and be involved. it does make a difference. ride letters to the editor and ride to your member of congress. make sure politicians understand they will be accountable and that you are watching. i've had people ask me does it really matter if i ride to my member of congress and i will tell you it does matter. i will tell you my very favorite piece of constituent mail i ever got was a handwritten note that said dear liz never liked you
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much. i'm starting to. [laughter] that sums it up. >> i think you have gotten a lot of that recently. >> every once in while. >> we have questions from you all. thank you, maam. i'm too old to read it. this is. tomorrow we will hear the case regarding the former president's immunity claim in one of many criminal trials ahead of him. that's a sentence you don't expect to hear. do you think it will take place prior to november's election do you think the supreme court will move quickly with its decision.
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i think it's really important in particular the january 6 file go forward and the select committee was able to conduct an investigation that generated a significant amount of information about what happened but there is important testimony that we were not able to get. members of the white house council's office for example is claimed executive privilege and felt that they could share everything had happened. we know from press reports and now testifying to the grand jury without those claims of executive privilege members of the present staff so there's important testimony that the
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grand jury has heard according to pressry reports that the pubc hasn't and the idea that the january 6 trial could be delayed until after the election and might view it just can't be the case that a president can attempt to steal an election to seize power and we can hold them to account until after the next election. i think the supreme court may well have wanted to be clear that there are certain areas where a president might enjoy immunity. for example commander in chief during a time of war and now maybe why they took the case but i think it's crucially important that they rule quickly and decisively that no circumstance
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under which the president's actions would be protected by immunity exists here. no president can attempt to do what donald trump did and enjoy immunity for that. [applause] so i think it's crucial that the court understand. the court, their role is not to be involved with politics. it's very important that they not be involved in politics and i think it's important to recognize that not ruling quickly here would mean that the trial doesn't proceed in an ordinary course and it would mean potentially information that is critically important evidence that's critically important if donald trump were to be reelected would remain forever hidden from the american people and that's not right.
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i also think it's in porton for people and you hear sometimes trump another saying, suggesting that somehow the selectng committee kid or suppressed evidence that donald trump doesn't have thehe evidence. it's obviously not true but it's important to note that donald trump specifically has himself all of the evidence. there were a handful of transcripts that we had to turn backri to the white house to the secret service. we asked those agencies to review for law enforcement sensitive material and other sensitive issues and with the national archives. even those donald trump has had this last year. he has all of the grand jury testimony. he notes exactly what those people closest to him will say.
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he knows what they have testified to about his conduct and that's why he doesn't want the american people to see that evidence. i think it's obvious there's no question that his assertion that the immunity should be rejected. i think very clearly it will be rejected by the court but i also think it's important that they rule in the a way that doesn't allow additional delay. >> were you surprised given the testimony the committee heard frfrom bill barr with what he sd about voting for trump? >> yeah. given what bill barr has said publicly about trump's lack of fitnesspu for office, i think hs assertion out that he's going to support trump for office is indefensible and frankly disappointing to see. bill barger stands out in porton it is to have a president who will uphold the rule of law and
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you see first-hand that he has said publicly don't trust favoring his conduct and his willingness to lie and his willingness to tell people things that weren't true, all of those things are very dangerous and toxic mix. you'd have to ask bill barr why he said what he said but i certainly think it's's wrong. can you elaborate on how your message is being received outside of washington and the rest of the country and what resonates most among ordinary voters that may be less open to your views? >> i a lifetime traveling around the country and speaking at a lot of college campuses and i have been really hard and by the extent to which people are
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engaged. they are understanding what that stake and they want to know what they canan do to make sure trump doesn't get anywhere near the heoval office again and i think it's very interesting one of the issues that i think is most important is to focus on what he was doing while the attack was happening and the reason i think that's so important is because someone who would sit and watch that attack on television who would refuse multiple pleas by his family, by his senior staff to tell the mob to leave, someone who would be told that the vice president has been evacuated and according to one
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report we know that someone handed him a note that said a the civilian had been shot at the door ofha the house chamber and he put the note on the table in front of him and continued to watch the attack happened and wouldn't tell the mob to leave. that's. it's and that's a moral issue. [applause] i think it's important to remind people of that. >> when his store into the future look back at the past eight years will they view it as a forever changing american moment in time? and i'm sorry, what is the question? >> do you think that this moment is as epochal as we believe it is now? >> i think certainly it is and i
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think you know because we have been so blessed as the nation, because we have since 1789 had president who abided by their oath of office, we have not had to contemplate this kind of a threat. and i think that one of the things that's been fascinating is looking back to what the founding fathers were worried about. they were worried about this i sleep this and because we haven't had confronted before and in some ways i think we have taken for granted the freedom that we have enjoyed. so i think that the message, and again it's up to us but we have to make sure that the lesson of this moment when historians look
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back will be that we all met the moment that when we were faced with this threat we work together to defeat it and we will be able to say to our kids andil our grandkids but we prevailed because we loved our country more and that's it's got to be our goal and our objective for this period. [applause] >> thank you, thank you. i'd like to ask you to close this out with quoting yourself like the old. she who said as our said and rightly. this is a speech he gave at the reagan library after january 6. and the hearings.
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>> this is at the reagan library. this was the day after cassady hutchinson testified and she's one of the individuals who showed such tremendous bravery and courage.y [applause] this is actually quoting myself giving a speech in my own book. this is really over the top. >> it's a little solipsistic as we say. >> let us all as we leave here tonight resolved that we will embrace the grace and the compassion and the love of country that unites us. let us resolve that we will fight to do what is right and we will be able to look back on these days to say that in our time of testing we did our duty and we stood for truth.
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ultimately that is what hurt the us americans requires of us. that we love our country more, that we love her so much that we will stand above politics to defend her and we will do everything in our power to protect our constitution andwi r freedom paid for by the blood of so many. >> liz chaney. you. [applause]
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