on the other hand, people invading the capital and hosting prayer service. some of the morally formative institutions that have helped shape character. we've talked about the perversions andnsf christianity that have enabled and accelerated the decline of character and moral leadership. of course all this leads us to the big question. what do we do? how do we go about renewing and reinvigorating moral formation and moral leadership insh our country? we are going to mix up the order here. robert we're to start with you. >> thanks a lot. immediate word that comes to mind is speeded we are leaving this for live coverage, conversation and on global security. it's hosted by the atlantic council. live coverage on the c-span2.

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today's event kicks off atl women's of a weeklong programming. as w critical milestones including nearly 25 years o resolution 1325 on wen's peace and security as well as nato 75th anniversary the discussion willr a merchant your political challenges should be addressed lens to strengthen collective security and defense alliances. this event is part that it's a good initiative 2024 mpaign. from information and updates for future events publications follow us today's conversation with will be moderated by sahana dharmapuri vice president of our secure future and vice president of -- before return to our panel discussion however i pleased to introduce our keynote remarks provide and security at nato, irene >> allow me to expressnity to address you today. on the occasion of this discussion organized atlantic

council alongside our secure future of women's business security initiative security landscape. while i regret i cannot be there in person, i am keen to share with you my thoughts on this crucial subject. today -- would 75th anniversary this year and the nearly 21st 21st years of united nations security cncil resolution of women's this security. this milestone serves as a reminder to our collective commitment to advancing promoting peace and ensuring the security of all individuals regardless of their gender. as we suddenly know, europe is not at peace. we find ourselves in the security environment -- instability. the unprovoked aggression of russia against ukrainelated the norms and principles that once contributed to security order. shopping the piece that terrorists is the most direct

threat poses a significant challenge the security of our citizens and it is an impediment to international peace and prosperity. women increasingly face threa continue to face barriers to full and meaningful participation in peace and secure our resolution 1325 adopted 24 years ago on not yet fully of limited but indeed -- authoritarian and terrorist actors narratives which are reflecting their tactics to divide and destabilize. russia's targeting of civilian and infrastructure in ukraine highlights sitter consequences of this action. women and girls remain targets of multiple forms of violence including gender-based violence, sexual violence, exploitation, abuse a trafficking. we also f numerous

crosscutting challenges. one of of these is climate change. as more and more research review women and girls disparate impact of climate change which amplifies existing gender inequalities, and poses unique threats to the livelihoods, health and safety. embracing new and emerging technologies offers opportunities to create more gender equal world but we must also be vigilant against technology buys engendered disinformation that risks excessive gender inequalities and violence, underminingst values. nato once again recognizes that significant impact that instability -- happen to women and gir this shift in security landscape underscores the need forive and strategic response here we believe the complexity of the geopolitical challenges we fe today demonstrates -- throughout agenda led.

in line with this commitment nato allies update policy set to be endorsed at this year's summit in washing d.c. the new policy will set a a clear vi of nato deputy eskridge and allowing the alliance to and challenges and to contribute to more gender future. we will deliver n concept which already underlined gender equality as reflection of our values as an alliance and integration of the wps legend s, terror and defense -- cooperative security. wps is as ever been. resilievolving security environment requires the active involvement of full segment includi organizations. they pla preparing for, resisting responding to, and recovery.

exchange with]v c to prevent us as a work in silos and to epproach wps align with the global wps agenda. this is why in january have open consultation with newly nominated civil society advisor and integrated the policy update as a major part meeting. functioning as an independent advisor offers criticaly grassroots of society. this insight plays a a crucial role in helping us identify -- and preventing blindfold. nato acknowledges women are a the forefront to support societal resilience, mitigate conflict. in addition andsecurity efforts their full and meaningful participation in decision making and implementation of solutions related to all aspects of peace andthecurity are critical to achieving nato's mandate and promoting peace a stability in

the euro atlantic area. as we confront, shift and security landscape it is crucial nato's values, reinforcing alliancect citizens, safeguard freom aem and work toward a just, occlusive and lasting peace here i extend my best wishes for a producti insightful panel discussion. t to advancing women peace and security in this challenging time. >> thank you so much, chris and irene for helping a set the conversation, ahead of women with a very wonrful and thought-provoking conversation ahead of us and i'm really glad to share the sta my colleague. my name sahana dharmapuri, vice president of our secure future women make the difference. really excited for you who are watching and all of you in the with us. i i want to begin by quickly our panelists

and then jumping into the to introduce jenna ben-yehuda his executive vice president at atlantic council. previously served as the president and chief executive officer of the truman project and the truman center for national pol joined by vice president fdv external relations at the women's refugee comssion, melanie nezer. she and her team share women's commission research and recommendations, policymakers, media and supporters to the wider public and[[ u.s. we're also joined by ms. moira and technology at the national democratic institute here in washington and her role at ndi she helps bridge the gap between technology policy and democracy and is a regular contributor digital ecosystem that supports democracy worldwide. thank you ladies. it's really a pleasure to share the stage with you and will appreciate your thought leadership in thi heardpcoming summit

and some plans of integrating women peace, and security more deeply into nato's priorities, but jenna, i would le too may be give us some reflection but also maybe confection lies the 75th anniversary summit that's g d.c. >> thanks, thank yououncil. great to be a benevolent today at at a special thanks to our secure future forour partnership. we are really delighted. many ways it feels somewhat like full circle moments with a serious anniversary bishopric were coming up on the resolution 1325 which are ushered him this movement of women, peacend with that the national action plan, miller s world. we have of course the 75th anniversary ofshington will host the summit this summer, a date we are tracking very closely at atlantic council because we important role in the public form which cil society beating for that this summer. we do that of open war in europe, a war which is in

ukraine but is in war that isng contributed to supplied by many countries around the world the united states probably. the backdrop against which we're ha one of particular urgency and poignancy because of russia's war in ukraineis really i think russia's war with the west more probably get we also went with expression of what i think isly critical wps nato finland. we think in particular margaret wahlstrom of a feminist foreign policy in sweden and even though it was think it was in 2022, we know undoubtedly there is this legacy of feminismment in sweden that will become a part of this conversation as they enter nathere can likewise with finland. women's equality andd equity. so curious to see how the accession of these two states changed the the complexion of some of the

conversation. it's an importantomly as we hopefully begin ruction over the horizon port remember to have his voice at the table for not just the war fighting but the peace to sahana. so in your refle iobecause your work onand democracy promotion and technology your reflections on ms. fellin comments. talk about alliances et cetera. love to hear your perspective. >> and thank you sahana, for to today. it's always a pleasure to be a with two of my my favorite organizations come atlantic council and i think the which stood out to me is a transition over the 75 this evolution of watching one of theanizations in the worldncept of multi-stakeholder -ism which is inherently women peace, full participation of all people in decision-making to make us more secure. so the absolute redefinition of security and as we'reoiirng

ó÷re a quarter into this year more election goodwill than we've ever seen threats to democracy both on the periphery of nato but also in the balkans from actors in asia. we are seeing a rise in the need for all of us to these issues especially around emerging technology. not just anhen it's full chilled elections and in their ability to access information, but we are also seeing it in increasing the security threats surveillance. so the very tools that democracies that nat more secure can also pose threat to 50% of the global population in particular. so conversations can't be more critical than coming to thend figuring out how to rectify those differences how we ensure t over time and try to protect ourselves in trying to secure direction of free enterprise, free societies, we don't inherit we don't destroy that from increasing the use ofhnologies to threaten

to achieve. >> yeah. melanie, you work on a l these conflicts that we are talking about from the women's refugee perspective. what are your reflections on some of, irene talked about voices. how much of being included in the >> well, thanks you're going to last is like echoing everybody saying do that in shorthand way to grow great t sahana. always appreciate your partnership and great to be with atlantic council. pretty n to wrc such a great way to get a kick off my tenure terms of money for small yes important wps has a a recognition that it has in nato and in the i think what we really see some challenges are two areas help with time to talk more about them. one is related to what you said about in the interest of because the face of so many security threats, particularl crisis we kind an excuse to exclude them from leadership.itize

keeping people safe. so that's a real issue and are some solutions women are doing amazing things run the world particularly forcibly displaced women, refugees, women who are crisis but they need our help and support and we need to excellent recommendations and ideas of haying it is great and there been many strides over theluding women in decision-making and followin women but they're so much what we can do from the kind of mundane. iterally be at the table if they can't get on the bus b unsafe for them to get on the bus to go to the meeting right? things like tha security. in less women are safe we'ret particularly to a displaced. the other one issary but we're pretty close to him going to throw it in there come is the anniversary of the 1951 convention on the status refugees which followed world war ii which is really our framework for protectingwho are fleeing persecution. it doesn't address all of our modern it addresses a very specific, we talk about climate refugees.

it's noty,ns of refugees is a legal term. convention people are persecution based on race, religion, nationality, memrshi social group or political opinion. that's where refugee is. in the 1951 convention, obligated states to protect refugees. puts some requirements on refugees themselves on how they must supportmselves, but basically it's about the states protecting r kind of a race to the bottom. we have this massive crisis. we hav of people millions more who will be displaced by by climate change, by the conflict accomplice and climateaking a very deterrence enforcement onlyoa recommendations will be women in addressing some of these challenges and the kind of coming together in a more kind ofed to address these challenges that are not walls and bnow that's not going to work. >> i think what you have all said really underscoring we know,

it's almost 25 years for women peace, and security, we know nowt the decision-making table. it's been for a lot of good reasons but quite happening but this multilateralism the and strengthening alliances can really be an entry point for that particularly made o a leader in women's peace and security and addressing the this is an interesting point to turn back to you can nato betteegrate peace perspective? they are talking about creating new policies, asking these civil society groups to add their pe but can you give us examples? how are these countries actually doing this >> i think there are a number of important points raised here and having structure included in conversally important one. i think nato liketutions struggles a bit with opacity and not having processes and its

own diplomacy be accessible to external parties. so extending a logical and security agenda internet is an important part of the other piece of this is that so much of t now has been 2% gdp threshold commitment for defense spending. one of the thingser wps work is that asked hillary clinton l ak0 do, it's the smart thing to do. and if you talk about a month in whic level of a refugee crisis in many respects, and a tremendous numberisplace and on the move at a time institutions are unable to meet that is especially the time to ensurese resources are used really wisely. we know by these decision moments not just because that disproportionally impacted my conflic they are a durable peace that needs to be part of that would be think about resourcing when it comes to addressing these crisis. this is one of the important roles that our secure organizations

play is reminding these organizations of not just the right space and paired is but imperative to equity. that is a big part of whatl be on the table for conversations around nato as we approach you want to see not just a commitment to women's peace andrity but from signaling and resourcing at the at least a discussion about that? >> i think it'sause of resource in question has so dominated we are in the midst of our own ukraine supplemental as european and native partners continue to try to reach threshold commitments and things of that nature. we need to be think about how we continue to provide force security not just in a c faced but in a reconstruction phase. as a look at the data and we know that women at the table into his these moments of conflict and also at the peace table creates more durable and long lasting peace, that is one element of addressing this resourcestrained

environment. >> absolutely, absolutely. you know, something else you have mentioned all of you mentioned, is the role of women as agents of change and of advancing the rules-based order your moira i'd like to turn tor work is in the democracy and technology field. i think would be really interesting for our audience to hear more about how women are leading some responses to some of the threats that you phrase>> yes. i think is been very positive about a lots a a look at the technology space we saw governments often -- the opportunities and the threats to soci look at generative ai we're seeing governments resp quickly. to the point where we have 50, 60 global conversations happening about the issue right that is the bias that we know exist in the data sets that are both used to protect us but also used to help

create the information space we want to see. where we're seeing forward action is in the partnership for action ending online harassment and abuse. there are 14 member countries many of them are natir working together to redefine the spa definitions about issues like gendernformation but also then saying what to countries need to do? we can have technology companies. to help shape the future. it's good to be both an opportunity and a challenge for organizations like nato urges÷9 inherently defensive to look at what is the outcome we want,wh look like i had to acknowledge for space that the harm done to around gender disinformation happen online. this isn't going going from online toe see what we see on her social media pages then reflected in streets? this is about the chilling of the conversation, the stalling of peace the threat democratic systems that's happening online. and s and what we see women doing around the world i we can point to

ukraine where we saw one most durable countering d authoritarian actors are dominant led by women in looking at those threats. we see it in taiwan which secondary and major concern of nato where we see t coming to taiwanese businesswomen taiwanese political leaders and the threats they are of women. this is all by design. think we have to look to a lotverlapping alliances of the global partnership of the freedom and look at opportunities where we can build on each energy to everyone and establish their swim lanes in thet and work together but having a cle get to. so that means not just rising in the streets or we're all secure and safe in her houses a we come back and cover what we are really able to freely elections come in political discourse and actively driving forward to an inclusive society and inclusive that nato and other

organizations stand for. >> thank you. concrete examples from ukraine and i won. would you mind giving one of the examples as an illustration for the ideas? because i think sometimes it's hard we hear women's movement, and we hear this is where we show but what does it look like? right because this is what i think about, i'm reflecting onn nato first went online we're seeing social media companies being a constituency and part of town nato brings companies to the table right in the way we see defense contractors and the defense industry be. ..

ness of what women face friends authoritarian actors are using to undermine women just. this the president butdermine the dissipation right of the women because i d want to experience being harme and it's working and that's why y protecting but summation in thatase throughout europe creating democratic inf see putting action and rebel alliance to can be that remember

wh underscore it's very clear alliance trying supporting the order where everyone can participate she are actively targeting women in particular not just to idual to undermine the system democracy happen where heon t nato think about questioning leadership undermining the content. think we need to sit back and realize we are what it a national security. >> you got women as

change and it has a powerful way to address these issues. what we lov she with the forwardooking at completely different things but it's this intent to marginalize women but they could interesting.erything you're saying up are advocates women in their communities offer the dissertations they trusted trying to make a life for themselves or they might nothave status facing mcginnis ei generations thousands of years better failing and all

the instability and on top of that is the gender issues lack of access to healthcare and protection from gender-based violence and layered on top of that is the demonization re world he's countries like ours and some of us have the capacityuntries in europe it's a challenge we havehe capacity to integrate and volunteers are about thesehat does it look like to the rest of the fight for resources really say no more we offer to welcome you you? investing in them and led organizations makes a huge difference.it pays money dividends women are the kids missing in theasked with doing a lot of the work. some of the things we can do in

terms of women let orgreat example a delegation of ukrainian actress for the commission bringing two high-level criminal juvenile ngos in bringing somema actress and ukraine mother so much capacity around the that will have a high level developed civil society like ukraine and what any ngos need trump leadership from we need to get them to the table situation for their safe and secure this is where we can make progress there >> would you

like to see women woman? >> it goes across all nato priorities rebuilding from her recovery and all those things refugee women place is not all wohere are many millions of people d impact of the ins leads to what they are doing in their own community to mak lives better for their own communities. like healthcare. unity based learned doctors and n train people so all of this security not

the order anymore, it's horrible so all this should be security. >> and select from all your about andhat they are showing us security is just talking orders and territory anymore. security pictures onlinefe over here while you are the reality anymore. >> yeah >> what would be interesting from a what is he recommendation to take under consideration this worker? >>what's interesting is how the nature of warfare has in conflict and we are asked the days of armies coming over asymmetric

warfare plan. we have so much child war in this widectrum of conflict that has expand. increasing nature of online conflict is where nato has room foth reflection. other multilateral institutions and individual nations really think about security in this case. how approach multilateral sense? is are questions. where are yours when it comes to cyber attacks? about escalation local we know also women are at thenline abuses especially from our likents in the nature of how online whether it's the president ofto degrade the

leadership profile of the senior into islands in the real it language models and we a.i. georgias only contributed. women's voices are marginalized online your pieces looking a wikipedia and women's voices online are not representative world. he began to think about nature becomes in our security systems piece of the questions need to taken consideration as you think about . >> it related to the origin of women saying post- conflict we want to

writing look institution building such and design of the world we want to live in what you're saying are on the same place with the digital ecos. true. we have so much going to result around the table in the way we want once might have and to think about all thosepportunities decision-making, it is so much more fractured having a strategy to approach is coming toxford when i worked on this many years ago moment of competing peace we don't have a lot of that because so much of the nature of conflict that gray zone short of do you think about security?

something with got to contend with. >> what are your thoughts? connect i don't know if i even remember. >> if you want to go back -- >> this is something advocates migrants have been saying for many years from a security does not equal enforcement and security doesn't mean fortifying orders morng fences. security involves talking to civil society particularly organizations that can talk about issues that directly they engage in trying to addressse is coming to help them soif we continue down this pathf ripping out the foundation of tarian law marking to lead to more

chaos. migrants and refugees arriv europe at the u.s. border, it's a globalized phenomenon. there true been europe so it goes to what you're saying a globalized chaotic-ú with no cooperation beyond deterrence and we need much more engagement and civil society of women thato come up with real solut peace and maintain mor when you have chaos it invites here and society rejecting a newcomer demonized and it's because nobody likes the feeling of chaos. we are moment optimistic.

we have organizations like nato and others acknowledged that we are doing it wrong if we conversations to brussels, washington and silicon realize the mostfective solution come from the women in the south who haveplans and strategies who redefined security in their own sen at first seen them long before others got there and say bonds in therders and connecticut things we all know there's a lot going on underneath there and we can look at another anniversary, we've been talking about a lot of fun but the reason anniversary the conflict in northern ireland the women who provide the common ground redefined security at a local is for a nato. going back tng we heard about new efforts to bring in civil society but have to

redefine that relationship bring table. it will look like it takes timand feel messy can often feel but ultimately it's what makes us develop solutions that are going to lead us to the durable peace. she developing the mechanics to address it i think are a major should leave behind the population as we do not. >> i want to end with this questi you what surp most working on this issue? to just get in the room? should. we could just get in the be great to spend less of my time admiring

moms and more time solving them>> i want to say surprised but inspired and who engage in this fight in the challenges. persistence especially thinking about the popu should and in light facing mark demonization gender-based violence in all of those things and worrying about their kids allhings, which they show up go to the meetings and find each other and make progressf i want to say surprising but it's something we should all remember it's the norm is a democracy avoid some of about future of our ownountry these

women every thing make our community safer and also present minds. >> i'm a little are having the same conversations i feel like i've been having 25 years. [laughter] hand it feels hand having just conference everybody knows why it matters and it's not the same -- you're still having the but there's much less education happening so i do like impatiente time. i've met with female heads of state, somebody women chiefo many ministers for whom this is an obv strategy. it is not the first fan or second it's a part of the

fabric in the way that they are we continue in this moment we are thinking about democracy the back foot and pressure of orworld she. >> let's remember equit inclusion andta is not a conversation just for this is a conversation for all these loving all societies security and access to livelihood and peace and prosperity so more urgent than before to get this right because it is also policy against the societal the ability long-term >> when women are bringing up issues many youth talked about online signs natoing into account because as you say this is a moment we are in how can

we better early warning signs into the conversation coming up >> you can look at way that it is an indicator and what exists more broadly.be exploited. it is warning sign, there a lot of strugglesf table end up with think about the cost for relative peace we have to be things which. over to q&a. let me take a look audience. okay. this is a l but i think you guys can handle it. has nato learned from the current situation and

efforts to promote security failed? s nato partner in promoting security or women's security in the region? the reason i chose that is because we have partners in the indo pacific region or want partners think this challenge of working in conflict zones places where we don't have rights is a good one so what have we learned what you think nato has learned? >> specifically in respect to afghanistan? >> yes. >> in my exp working on on comfortable the lesson i've taken awayhe changes durable when t is strong on both sidthere has to be a little strong committed to that

great look at the successes of nature of that country's commitment t its use they outspend u.s. ef shot.ç for all the extraordinary work done advancing education and so many heartbreaking how quicklyt receded. i think what we are missing a but it's a broad-based to en forne back change externally. it is tremendously heartbreaking heartbreaking. so many of us who have the last 20 plus years be a lot cleared personally but the durable change has to some kind of local ongoing commitment to ensure should that is >> i think there's a lesson in

question culture and the name of culture culture understanding. we saw in afghanistan and around the world and if we take a lesson maybe start with you and question it is a decision-maker look allow it to go first have that moment, let the hair grow up in the back of your neck but your saint and no maybe you need to look at policy options will allow what is talked about their >> i think one thing the women in afghanistan get rest of us is the importance ofaving into perspective security didmething that didn't exist time we had an more familiar with lot of explaining, we have to get more people to do it

it. >> i think we have time for one guess not backward but couple of examples may be about information and gender. we have a question about examples from ukraine examples? >> i hesitate because to protect the women involved, i don't want to exploit too much but i recently returned from where i was able to do consultation with groups civil society women engaged in solutions show local political leaders we see far attacked brother maritaltus there religion and their public record. there's another who

talks about my gender we've missed the.k about cases like one of tl prize regularlyonline abuse and silenced moral the story women locally and personally and afghanistan the number one issue retrain a activists the number one reason they say she pain note itis t online abuse becau what it does to the families and ability to learn and income should and how hard they have to voice

so many examples to count and the other women we have seen on a global scale who experience this and get up for new zealand. they want to talk about the issues.many people in the refugee community forced to confront the only within transnationally butalso globally and among local about their gender, they want to and secure outcomes >> i see we are out of time for more questions but it has been a pleasure to have us co.ti questions that hopefully will get to a i would like to thank all of you for your attendance and particip conversation and i hope we have more, it's a pleasure t

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