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>> charter communication before c-span is a public service along with these other television providers. giving you a front row seat to democracy. three republicans running in the ohio senate race took part in the candidate forum. ohio secretary of state talked with voters about immigration, reproductive rights in the u.s. economy. spectrum news one ohio is the host of this forum. ♪♪ hello and welcome to the republican u.s. senate candidate forum. i am your host of in focus in your host tonight. thank you so much for joining us we are sitting down with the three candidates here to hear where they stand on the issues

that are important to ohio voters. we put together this hour-long forum instead of a debate to give candidates an opportunity to share their ideas with voters we want to thank the ohio republican party and the university of finley for helping make this possible. first i want to introduce the candidates. this is your chance to applaud as we introduce the candidates we kindly ask that you hold off on applause for the rest of the forum

making election integrity one of his top priorities. secretary, thank you. >> thank you, mike. [cheering and applause] >> finally, we have businessman bernie moreno he is from westlake, ohio. his family immigrated from columbia when he was just five years old. he has worked as an entrepreneur since 2005 when he purchased his first car dealership. thank you so much. we appreciate it. [cheering and applause] >> well done with the applause. i want to outline to the candidates that we will answer each question. the person answering the first question has been selected through a random draw. the person that answered first will go to the end of the line for the next question and then that rotation will continue. each candidate will have 90

minutes to answer the question directed to them. refraining from interrupting. i will prompt all follow-ups and the candidates will be given 45 seconds to respond. topics of interest to the ohio republican voters. let's get started. immigration and the border. the last few months of american politics. we should start right there. secretary of state frank larose. if you could prescribe a fix for u.s. immigration system that by all accounts is broken, what are the big ticket items you would propose. >> i've been very clear about this, mike. this comes from my experience. i've served on the border. i have spent time there in uniform. i volunteer as a soldier to serve on the us-mexico border. my plan is very clear.

three military divisions deployed to the border. the president could do this immediately. 60,000 troops. that is the only entity in the federal government that can stop the invasion that is currently happening. they don't need to be there long until the wall can be completed that is the second step. complete the wall to the gulf of mexico, pacific ocean. you need to have men and women with guns that guard that wall. making sure that butter patrol is well resourced to do that work. gathering on both sides of the wall to make sure we know what is happening. define these cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. they are smuggled across the border and we have to be clear that we are willing to use any force that we need to use in order to stop these people from killing our fellow americans. we also need to be clear about deportation. anyone that came here legally should be deported.

we need to start with the biden search. we need to keep on working until we deported everyone that we absolutely possibly can. no amnesty. no citizenship. no access to the asylum process for anyone that comes into this country illegally. >> a bipartisan group of u.s. senators recently brokered a deal that would impose tougher asylum importer law. if you were in the senate would you have supported that bill? tell us why or why not. >> i actually read the 357 page bill. this is the fun part of being a candidate spouse. they get to watch me on a sunday night read 357 pages. it is absolutely crazy what was in that bill. nothing to do with border security. you had to give away further countries that would've been debilitating back to us. the reality is what we should do is very simple. we form our asylum laws. more money, more money, more

money. we need to reform our asylum laws. if you enter this country illegally, whatever you do that is not the report of entry, you are immediately returned. we return you immediately. the right for asylum for life. when you come through a designated port of entry you do what president trump did. you have to stay in mexico or canada while your claim is being heard. obviously finishing the wall. that is what the border patrol agents want. we should designate as foreign terrorist organizations. i am very happy to hear my opponent now talking about no amnesty and not allowing anybody in this country to stay here illegally. it is important that we make certain that if you are in this country illegally that we remove anybody who was in this country illegally. that is what we need to have happen in d.c. >> 30 seconds to respond to that

>> deportation is one of the things that we need to use as a tool. if you come into this country illegally, you will be deported. promising that you could deport 20 million people overnight or even within a few months or years as an unrealistic promise. we will deport those that come here. government benefit citizenship, any of those things, lifeline antennae of those that come to this country illegally. it's remarkable to hear him say this. he wrote a column just a few years ago where he said there should be a path to citizenship. >> immigration plays a huge role in keeping our economy growing. how would you balance the need for workers in so many industries from agriculture to advance computing with any changes you would back to reform immigration. >> thank you. thank you for hosting us tonight thank you all for coming out. you could have been asking that

exact same question to all three of us for the past 30 plus years the border has been a problem in our country for that long. i have been crystal clear about what we need to do. under president biden it is not a border problem anymore. it is a border crisis and it is an invasion. we must secure and steal our border. temporarily closing our border to immigration. while we are doing that we are getting our security out. more border patrol with law enforcement authority. more technology. remain in mexico. i have already determined the terrorist organization. we have to declare that fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction. it allows us to take those ships coming from china that are bringing the poison into mexico. coming our way. we could do something about it. we need to secure the border. no more benefits to those that are here. when that happens, mike,

temporarily closing the border, reopening it and remaining in mexico. i am different in my opponents. if you created a crime while you are here you should be deported. to your question, ohio farmers, ohio businessmen, ohio tourist industry, they need workers. if you want to get a visa, you can say. otherwise, you will be deported. >> a quick follow-up on the subject. same order. start with frank. do you support finishing the border wall no matter the cost. talking about the economy next. everything has a big price tag. >> 2000-mile land border is a long border. we have assets that we can use. part of our mission was building roads for the border patrol. i was down there with the corps of engineers. using our military engineers help build that wall. finishing the wall is important. i want to follow up on that

senate so-called border bill. that was a complete disaster. if you want to see what is wrong with washington take a look at that almost 400 page bill. an example of what is wrong with washington. what it really did was fund sanctuary cities and give the president the ability to continue this amnesty process that he has been engaging in for the four years of his administration. it was a disaster and it's a good thing that it died. >> finishing the border wall no matter the cost. >> negotiated by president trump biden just went back to where we were with president trump the border was secure under president trump. the matt's point, they have already broken our laws. they are broken our laws by being in this country illegally. to hear republicans talk about allowing illegals to skip the line when you have millions of people that come here the legal

way, that is exactly what is wrong with our system. we have to stop rewarding people that break the laws. taking time to follow our laws and our process to allow those people to stay here who have broken the law already. they are already lawbreakers by definition. it is completely wrong. >> final 45 seconds on this subject. you support finishing the border wall at all costs. >> does not understand. the actual dilemma the washington has had for 30 years. passing the register you were talking about citizenship. wanting to support children. that is the exact same argument we've had in washington but over 30 years. what happens in between? nothing. the border does not get secure. that is why am saying seal the border. fix it. stop the bleeding. you want to talk about cosmetic surgery. protect the border.

the wall needs to be finished. more walls in arizona built under president obama then there is president trump. that just tells you how out of step president biden is. walls work where necessary. technology enhances. what really will help us give our border patrol legal authority to act as law enforcement officers. one guy said it feels like a walmart greeter. >> let me give a quick chance to respond to your. >> what we need to do is change the laws the way it's laid out. we have to stop rewarding people that are here illegally. i have never ever called for a path of citizenship ever. you can look that up. president trump endorsed me. he knows the three of us. he knows i will stand behind to make sure that we see our border jim jordan is endorsing. jamie vance is endorsing. he knows that i will be the strictest and toughest on illegal immigration. this is just nonsense

conversation from these two guys . the reality is, nobody will be tougher on illegal immigration than me. i am the guy that followed the law to come here. you ask any legal immigrant in this country and when you hear things like you will give them visa preferences, et cetera, we have to deport anybody that is in this country illegally no matter what it takes to make that happen. that is the answer. plus changing our asylum laws. >> i've got to respond. >> holding off on applause if you could. >> listen. this is why you cannot trust this guy. a few years ago when he wanted to be popular with his fellow court elites he wrote an article that said there should be a path to citizenship. my team will share it. now that he wants to try to convince people he is a conservative, he has changed his

tune on that. which bernie will be get in washington? >> let's turn our attention to the economy. >> governor, wait a second. >> you go first. >> keep it short. both of you guys are reinventing yourself on the issue of immigration. wrapping around no labels which had a clear path to citizenship. bernie, you are coded as passing a residency and you think it's important that all illegals become u.s. citizens. the quote is saying that. >> you are first on the next one the second big topic political discussion these days, mr. moreno on employment. record lows, the stock market is at record highs yet people still feel like the economy is headed in the wrong direction. what is your take on where our economy is and what needs to

change. you can comment on other things as well. >> working class americans and seniors are getting crushed. the money that they did not. knowing how to spend it. pushing electric vehicles, solar panels on prime farmland. you see grocery prices out of control. that is driven by government spending. we are in findlay ohio. the headquarters. energy dominant country. instead we have this move towards windmills and solar panels. we need coal, we need natural gas. that will drive prices down. we need to massively cut government spending. you know who will not cut government spending, career politicians. there is not one politician that can point to a time where they have cut spending. that is what we need. we need these people in washington, d.c. he was a lath outsider that went to d.c. and got some stuff done?

president trump. they've got to stop electing these people that look at it as a job. they look at it as a career. elected office in d.c. never intended to be a jobs program for people that could not make it in the private sector. people fargo serve their country and then come home. that is what we need more than anything else. people that know how to make those things happen. that is a difference in this campaign between me and my opponent. >> you been in state government for many years. states have to balance their budget. you have been heavily involved in that. what would you do? what are some of the things you advocate for to balance our budget. >> the first thing we have to do whether it be the private sector of the public sector, let's talk the public sector. i have balanced for budgets. it means we don't spend in ohio more than our revenues. not only that, we created an

economic activity so our revenues increase. i cut your taxes. i reduced regulation. i gave parents a right to choose how and where their child gets educated. we invested in infrastructure so we can create a growing economy. those are the same things we need to do in washington. make sure we do not spend more than we bring in. creating economic growth, the economic engine is not happening under president biden and shared ground. it cost ohio families $11,000 a year. you know it when you pump your gas. you know when you turn the television on. you people don't feel secure. you talk to a small businessman and they don't know whether they should expand or not. we need to make sure that we understand that we have to make very difficult choices. i have made the difficult choices in my career. not everyone always agrees with what i've done in my career. you know what you understand because i listen to republicans all over the state, you know

that i am acting in the best interest of ohio. working each and every day to make ohio's lives better. i'm not worried about my political career, i am worried about you. i will approach the problems we are facing in washington. >> frank larose. america has a debt problem. it is growing. how should congress address a long term fiscal challenge. what policies would you advocate for? >> $34 trillion in national debt is not sustainable. we don't really have a revenue problem. we have a spending problem. federal revenues are near an all-time high. it seems like one thing that democrat and republican elites in washington agree on. spending more of your money. cutting taxes and controlling the growth of government, cutting the growth of government , streamlining regulations. your original question to bernie is economic statistics look

great. i've been asked this a number of times. look at the statistics. if you live off of the stock portfolio, off the trust fund may be the economy is doing really well for you. everything in your life cost more, but wages have not gone up to keep up with. we sit in our kitchen table and figure out how we will pay the bills at the end of the month. the path to prosperity is the old engine of human prosperity at the free market. cutting taxes. it should be made permanent. streamlining to get bureaucrats out of the way and doing energy exploration. it has been for well over 100 years a great source of american pride as an energy city. we need to drill for oil, drill for gas in mind for oil. it is remarkable for me to hear him say this because he wrote a column just a few years ago an op-ed column where he said there should be more government subsidies for wind and solar. that is the wrong direction.

>> i have a quick follow-up. respond to that as well. >> we can do that real quickly. i was against hb six. these guys were not. they will have to answer their involvement to a different audience. >> let me follow up with the economy question. [applause] it was not just green energy. >> can you please hold the applause. please. thank you so much. quick answer on these for each of you three. what should the minimum wage for workers b. should there even be one? >> the markets are the best way to observe what wages should be. employing thousands of people here in ohio. a good business owner knows you pay good benefits to pay good wages to get good people. the markets will flush that out and make certain that you get workers that get a good job.

governments role making certain that we have the lowest possible regulation that do not impede business growth. good schools that are not indoctrinating our kids to make sure that they are graduating with jobs that pay well. not always pushing people but to actual things that make a good career. those are the types of things that when we invest as government and good education will solve a lot of the problem. it never intended to be a livable wage. we want to make sure that everybody has the opportunity to grow as much as possible. >> user 45 seconds anyway he would like. >> i am glad to hear that my opponents are talking about all the things i've been able to do here in ohio that we need to do at the washington level. experience matters. give me the chance. minimum wage is not intended to be a livable wage. i have employed people.

we started some people at minimum wage. the purpose was inspiring them to work harder. if you want to earn a higher wage, work harder and make a living out of it. the democrats under chair brown want to turn minimum wage into a livable wage. he has no idea how that works. you know what that means? if we raise the minimum wage, all that means is everything becomes more expensive for you. if you raise minimum wage you have to cover your costs. >> minimum wage, should there even be one? >> the american path to prosperity has been three things hard-working people great access to natural resources and the freedom to make the first to work together. part of the challenge with these government interventions like so-called minimum wages that it

has a distorting effect on the market. the market is the best way to set wages. this is one of the things that we need to be on the lookout in ohio. you've heard me warning about this. an effort to amend into our constitution a massive increase in minimum wage that would result in unemployment and loss of business is. all of us up here seem to agree that there should not be a rise in the minimum wage and that the market should do this. mr. moreno has had a problem not even paying people the wages that they burned in his business a lawsuit as a result of that. >> i want to move on. please hold that applause. >> a career in politics that you would have something to run in your record instead of doing this. this is what they do. this is what career politicians do. this is why they don't want business people and business outsiders in their game. continuing to reelect him move

around. taking a business person and try to take the worst part of the business. i am proud of the business that i built. i took a visit from nothing and built a great company. >> you should be. talk about that instead of trying to take shots at me. liberal media. i expect those kinds of attacks. i don't expect different republicans he is liberal media talking points against republicans. >> thank you so much. fentanyl. next subject. tens of thousands of ohioans have died in the last decade from opioid overdoses. what policies would you advocate for to crackdown on overdoses and the use of opioids. >> once again, mike, it's not what i'm advocating for it's what i've been able to accomplish and do. this is real folks.

people are dying. adam probably should not have taken him but he found out it was laced with fentanyl and he died. what i talked about before. fentanyl needs to be declared a weapon of mass destruction. i've done it in the state. allowing us for who is to blame here. china is providing the ingredients to make this and it is coming to us from the cartels we have to stop that. we have to recognize that we must secure and sealed the border. that is what it means. you stop it. no one is getting across. getting ready to interdict all those folks bringing it here. it is also human. we have to recognize that this

addiction can be overcome. when you don't spend more than your revenue but you create an economic environment to increase your revenues, you have the ability to do what people are crying for and that is to provide more substance abuse treatment throughout the state. because of my work, we will have that now so people can get treated, go back to sober living and defeat this addiction from fentanyl. >> how do you attack it. how do you best work with law enforcement to deal with it. >> when i was serving on the board or we would go out with border patrol at night. we would find families or groups of people crossing the desert hope -- holding precious children in their arms. we would search them and we would find bags of cocaine in the diapers of these children. they thought we would not look there. it's worse now. that was 24 years ago. it is bricks of fentanyl. anyone that would jeopardize a life of a child that way is

someone i cannot understand. they are getting the chemicals from china. biden has not held she responsible. he just took his word on it. china needs to be held responsible. these cartels need to be defined as foreign terrorist organizations. i was accused of being irresponsible by saying we would use the military if needed to make sure that they stop killing our families. 200 people a day in this country that are dying from fentanyl overdoses. if mexico is willing to work with us we will work with them. if not we will use the full force of the federal government functions and legal force if necessary to stop them from killing our fellow americans. it means addiction treatment, it means help her family set up dealt with this and that is really a three legged stool making sure that people that need help get help. making sure we stop the flow and hold those accountable that are bringing it in. >> we are at the crossroads here in ohio. what are the contributing factors to this opioid misuse.

how do we attack this? >> we lockdown people. we close schools. we shut down businesses. we have a lot of mental health issues and now under biden, we have young people probably not too far from here that do not feel the american dream of being able to own a home, car, raise a family and live a nice life in a safe community is within their reach. we have to deal with depression issues. we also have to have a vibrant economy where people feel they have a shot at living the actual american dream of being able to afford a home. today in america you have to make $114,000 a year to afford a home. three years ago that was $60,000 nate hundred dollars a month. this is something. we have to drive down the price

of goods and services. make sure that we provide people apap to a good working class life that they can advance from. that is the root cause of that. of course we have to make certain that we end drug trafficking that's been allowed across our border. nothing leaves china by accident they know what they are doing and we are not holding them accountable at all for their role. that is weakness from joe biden. >> we have now reached the halfway point. good time to take a sip of water as well. if you are now just joining us, we want to welcome you to the university of finley. they are our host tonight. we are joined by satan senator. and businessman. seeking the republican nomination to then challenge

incumbent senator democrat brown gentlemen, we thank you all for joining us. frank larose has the first answer to the next topic. there is no more coveted endorsement in the republican party then the former president donald trump. what is your message to voters who have placed a significant value in the endorsement. why should they overlook that to choose you. you want somebody that does not just say it. somebody that has done it. the only one on the stage. i was endorsed by ohio right to life. other gun rights groups throughout the state. i'm the one that does not just say it. i am also the one who can defeat brown. actually sharing of values.

checking both of those boxes. i've been a longtime supporter of president trump. i went to work for him on his inaugural committee and when he 17. back to him again in 2020. i will be a great ally of president trump when he is in the white house and i'm serving in the u.s. senate. one of the first jobs as a senator is to work with the white house on who gets appointed and who gets confirmed to these cabinet positions. in the first few months of the office is when you make some your most weighty decisions. making sure his appointees get through that process. hearing the phrase career politician. taking a swig every time bernie mentions that. he keeps mentioning this when he is trying to claim that he is an outsider. he is anything but an outsider. he's been involved in politics for as long as i have.

engage in politics over the years to call yourself an outsider is completely false. >> you are next. much has been made of your less than flattering comments. how did you win his endorsement? how did you get past that it when his endorsement in this race? >> i think like a lot of republicans here. supporting mr. trump. very happy i was wrong. one of the greatest presidents. i build the relationship with him. the last cycle it was clear endorsing vance. i thought that it was more important for the good of the party for my political aspirations because it did not make sense for me to go into a fight where it was clear jd would win. i am very happy that he has one. president trump knows the three

of us. he follows this race very carefully. he knows i will be the one that has his back. when push comes to shove and you are in washington, d.c., what president trump needs to know is he is somebody in the senate that actually believes he will advocate for the america first agenda. making one very clear one. at the end of the day chose me for that reason. the endorsement was decisive. trump told him he would not endorsing this race. >> i did not lie. not going to endorse. >> so now it's president trump lying. >> he knows who you are. he knows who i am and he knows i'm the one that will have us back. we are going to change his country over the next four years in a deeply conservative way.

>> thank you. >> it means a lot. i have never lied about this. >> i am sure you would not mind and endorsement from the most popular figure in endorsements. that never seems to be in the cards for you. how do you overcome that? >> i'm the only one up here without hesitation or doubt can say i voted for president trump 16-20. i did not have to delete any tweets about president trump. i did not have to change any of my positions. i have been consistent. these guys were against president trump because they did not understand like i did what trump republican policies were going to be. i have actually done them. i've cut your taxes to the tune

of tens of billions of dollars. president trump cut regulations. i cut regulations. we are on pace to cut regulations 30% in the state of ohio by the end of 2025. president trump understood what was happening to our education system. parents decide where and when and how their child gets educated. president trump is about policy and a movement. that is what i support. i am seeking going to washington after those policies. the very same policies that we did here. what is best for ohio? how can i make your life better each and every day. we will get the message energy strong. i will not take my eye off the ball. what my responsibilities are in the u.s. senate.

>> our next topic is inspired by students right here at the university. abortion and reproductive rights something may have expressed interest in hearing more about from all of the candidates. what changes would you support regarding reproductive rights or abortion as a u.s. senator? >> first of all, i am pro-life. i will do everything i can to protect the unborn. i will make sure we have policies to make it less expensive to have kids. i have two kids. it is really expensive to have kids. make it less expensive to raise them. number three, make sure women have access to good healthcare. making sure we have adoption services that are readily available for women make sure women have access to contraception. we have to make certain we put those policies in place and that we have a pro-life culture in

this country. my daughter just took a flight to go back home to where she lives. mom carrying what looks -- people helped her on that plane. helped put the stroller away. helped her with her seat. gave up her seat. those are the kinds of things that we can do. let's be a pro mom profamily policy. as much as we can get to a point where we can have a 15 week four whereafter 15 weeks we have some common sense restrictions so that we are not a country that allows elective late-term abortions. i think that is a big victory. >> what role if any should the government play in regulating abortion. >> i am really proud of my pro-life record. abortion has gone down 37%. because these bills that i passed and worked on actually became law did what we wanted it to deal. bernie talks about what he wants to do. again, i have done it. we have created record funding for pregnancy prices centers throughout the state of ohio.

senator hoffman and i have just redone our entire adoption program here in ohio so it is easier and less expensive to adopt a child. let's face it. abortion wants to be, excuse me, sheriff brown wants abortion to be the issue in 2024. i have been absolutely consistent in my position about abortion in my career. i think my opponents have been a little bit disingenuous. both on tape with positions that may be do not fly with the rest of ohio. frank you said on national television it should be a six week dan and you are undecided on exceptions. bernie, you said i am 100% pro-life, no exceptions. guess what, folks, only winning 16 of the 18 counties in the state to become u.s. senator. in 13 of those 16 counties, issue one outperformed chair brown. i have a pro-life record that i am proud of the if sheriff brown

makes it about abortion with me, i am the one that will say you are for late-term abortion. you did not protect babies. you want to use taxpayer money to fund abortion. it will be about abortion on his side if i am the senate candidate. >> you can respond to that. also, what would you have to pay as a u.s. senator. >> well, it is well-known that i have a history for standing for life. this is something that i do not run away from. this is something that government must do is protect the vulnerable. it is something that is crucial that we do. that is why a lot of pro-life ohioans are getting behind me. that is why was able to earn the right to life endorsement as i have in the last campaigns. being pro-life means being pro-life not just probert. we have to have supportive services for mothers.

we have to make sure that it is less costly to bring a child into the world. it is less cost -- costly to engage in the adoption process. people have options for contraceptive care if that is what they choose to do so they do not find themselves in a situation where they feel they are only choices and abortion. i have been very clear about that. one thing that i definitely agree with matt on this wanted to make everything about abortion because he cannot talk about any other issues with a straight face. cannot talk about the economy with a straight face or domestic security or international security so of course they will want to talk about abortion. here is where we need to change the conversation. it is chair brown that supports late-term abortion further than what almost any country in europe would allow in a fully formed eight and have let the child being deported. chair brown supports allowing a child to be taken away from their parents and taken to planned parenthood facility with

no parental notification. >> your name was mentioned. you can go ahead. >> i was endorsed ohio right to life also. writing a check from their own bank account. they love to write checks from our bank account. i wrote a check for mine. when you are spending your own money, that tells you what you actually believe in. the reality is, you can talk and spend taxpayer dollars, but where are you with your own. when push comes to shove, what do you do with your own money? >> let me move on to the next topic. culture wars. foreign wars. military. transgender issues i want to ask you about the turning our attention about this cultural

issue. you voted to override the veto of house bill 68 which blocks gender transition care here tran 's use and prevent transgender athletes from playing women sports. tell us why you chose to cast your vote to override. >> biological mention not be laying with biological women. that seems common sense. you know, transgender surgery for minors, transgender medicine for minors. that is what we are talking about. talk to the medical community, they admit that they do not understand the ramifications of these medicines. these are some common sense proposals. but the culture wars are wider than that. i have stood up for it in my time as a public servant. did not like critical race theory. i voted to get rid of it. we don't like the funding and stay. my committee took charge and got

rid of it for state funding. we have done the things to protect our children. we have also taken on our schools because everyone wants to beat their chest and talk about it. well, i've done something about it. we have universal school choice in this state. our school systems were failing our kids. some were failing in a sense they were not properly educating our kids. some had a woke agenda in their curriculum. the best way to take care of that was to put parents in charge and we did it. the department of education at the state level was not doing what we and you wanted us to do, we did not cry about it. we took the power away from bureaucrats. when you had a chance to eat back which was the gateway of this woke ideological stance and you chose to stand with resident obama and said i do not want common core. frank, go read your own

statements. >> you get a chance to answer that. also, how do you balance parental rights against the legislative authority on this manner. >> i've always been an outspoken component of common core. it is absolutely crazy that that is something that he would bring up. i oppose common core, always have. i am the only candidate up here that has school age children. they are at home watching tonight. we are not interesting with coparenting with the government. we have classrooms that are indoctrinating instead of educating our children. where they think it's okay to teach children to hate each other based on race. or to hate this country based on some skewed version of american history. it's time that we stand up and reassert ourselves on parents rights. when you talk about this transgender issue the governor made a very bad decision. thank god we overturn that. what we are talking about his children. if a grown-up want to change their body in some way, fine.

that is up to them. i don't understand it, but it is up to them. it is child abuse. allowing someone to do that in a civilized society. thank god that that will not happen here in ohio. it is interesting to me, mr. moreno here has been saying that he has pro-life. he sat on the board gave $2 million to planned parenthood you have to answer for something like that. that is a kind of corporate elite mentality. same group, same board. give money to a radical trans organization that supports gender lockers and transition surgeries. i would never be for anything like that. >> you can respond to that. you have said that the federal government has a role to play in regulating standards for gender transition. as a senator, would you advocate for federal laws that your ohio law?

>> absolutely. you have title ix that should be enforced. it is common sense. common sense. this is a distraction that the left puts on us while our borders being invaded. instability all over the world. american energy under attack. grocery prices are high and they distract us with what they know is nonsense issues. we have to do that at the federal level to make sure title line -- title ix is respected. we should not be giving them experimental hormonal drugs that will impact them for the rest of their lives. i would like to make certain that these companies and institutions that are doing that can get sued by those kids when they become adults because they cannot consent to these kinds of surgeries. you cannot mutilate children here talk this is not something. it would have been lightly controversial. this is absolutely wacky stuff from the left. this is something that we have to stand up absolutely applaud

what happened here in ohio. not vetoing the legislation. that is common sense. thank you, matt, for being somebody that stood up and voted for that. >> let's move on then. next topic, democracy itself. frank i will start with you. free and fair elections. many americans questioned the system. you have overseen many elections what would you do to restore confidence in the integrity of the elections. >> an example for the rest of the country to follow. this is why when i was reelected i was the only secretary of state in america to earn the endorsement running for reelection. he knows that we have set an example in ohio. we do normal things that seem to drive the left nuts. taking dead people off the voter rolls on a monthly basis. we check on our legislature so that we can do that.

i won a lawsuit just a few months ago against hilary clinton's lawyer he was suing me to try to get rid of our photo id law. we audit the process. those are the things that we do that other states are not doing yet. i worked with members of congress to write a bill. and got over 200 cosponsors. it will pass the house. the problem is it will die in the senate because chuck schumer does not think it's important. this is why it's crucial. we actually take back the senate majority and have somebody that will understand the election integrity, understands the bad things that people try to do to put their thumb on the scale and fix those things. like we done here in ohio we need to fix those things nationwide. .... ....

that seek to thwart democracy. >> it the best thing we can do is be certainly set an example for democracy around the world and that we don't have a president, which is what we have right now, persecuting his number one opponent and in that we don't have an fbi that going after catholics calling them radical and we don't have an fbi that going after mom's at school board meetings for the best way for america to protect democracy around the world is for us to live by those very standards ourselves. what we have seen with the radical left in joe biden is a country that is not living up to those democratic principals. >> i will say this is not our job to fix the rest of the

world. we simply should focus on taking care of our own homeland first because when we are the strongest at home, when we have a secure country and we have a safe community and good schools and advancement for her middle-class and we are growing and thriving that's the best way to protect american strength but the reality is we are in a failing country today. joe biden sherrod and the democrats come it hurts me to say that but as someone someone who came to this country by choice where are we going to go when we lose the democracy here? that may sound hyperbolic but bs all to me at about but the kind of country are we going to leave our kids and our grandkids have right now is not heading in a good direction. >> matt dolan. [applause] the same thing, democracy with its elections at home were democracies around the world

what about our democracy right now? >> most immediate threat to our democracy is giving joe biden four more years in the white house and jared four more years in the u.s. senate. look at sherrod. sherrod is trying to get rid of the filibuster for the supreme court did. these are things that are anti-democratic. the thing thing we have the understand is we are public servants and our job as its core is to be consistent to be transparent and to be honest about what they stand for. it's my responsibility to tell you what i want to fight corporate you decide whether you agree with it. public servants look at that to understand who they are working for and we can regain democracy. president biden -- joe biden sherrod are working for us. they have their own political agenda. we see them in economics we see

it on the border. we see it on energy. they are trying to reshape this country. the only way we are going to stop them is for folks like you to understand the senator that will go to ohio and fight for your someone like me who's been consistent with his position, that has always fought for ohio. i don't put my political career -- and when you believe that then you understand that we the people get to regain control of their government. it starts in november of 2024. >> moving on to foreign-policy and funding wars overseas in ukraine israel bernie moreno what should continue supporting and if so how much? >> they are completely different topics. for me there's the tip of the

spear. the most important thing we can be doing right now for israel is to get rid of hamas. i would call for its cease-fire while people were getting killed for the money we give israel for research and development to approve their weaponry by the way when they are done with israel done with israel they are coming after us so that's easy for me. we should absolutely not give any more money to fight as the stalemate that's killing hundreds of thousands of the ukraine's. we are not in the business of more endless wars. for the last 50 years it would have been instructive that this country should not be funding wars that don't have a clear path to victory, that aren't in our interest and that have a situation where all you were going to do is encourage more bloodshed. >> in the interest of time will back these to one minute. how would you handle funding the

ukraine war differently? >> this is what i understand. putin is an enemy. the united states in 1994 convinced ukraine to get rid of nuclear weapons and do you know what makes you safe? when our enemies and our allies know america's going to keep its word and that's what we are fighting for because if we don't continue to provide ammunition and weaponry and by the way president trump provided weaponry to ukraine and that cap now. joe biden gave -- and thus would allow putin to come in. putin in ukraine is a threat to us. i don't want to do that control the world suite, 25% of the world we now do want putin to have control of the lithium that ukraine has. this is a matter of american security. i don't want that i have two

nephews in the armed services and i don't want them to go to the polls and have them fight putin if we roll over and withdraw from ukraine. >> frank larose to what extent should we fund the army. >> i'm. >> i'm a green brain i'm an army reservist so this is something i know something about. it's clear that it is american weakness that causes instability around the world that american strength. we projected nothing but weakness from the shambolic withdrawal from afghanistan to the invasion to the southern border to the way we handle ukraine and the way we now are mishandling the situation in israel. there's quite a contrast here to her because to my left mr. moreno wants to surrender and have nothing to do with ukraine and it's not our problem and just let it burn rate to my right as someone who wants to discontinue pouring more money into losing endeavor without changing the strategy for example making the zhang --

sanctions regime workplace poster were holding russia accountable for the things they are doing. it's important we to be clear on that in israel mr. moreno said they don't need our support. that was a thing to say days after october 7 and 8th answer for that. >> all right guys we have come to the end of our time and we have 30 seconds for each of you to close. before we wrap up our to give each candidate 30 seconds to say why they should get your vote period dolan. >> thank you pat. politics is the only business where you don't have the take ownership on the issues that challenge the nation and that's why nothing gets done. my public and private-sector career i take ownership for challenges and i have got results. i do things that matter and look at done it in a way that makes my wife jessica and my son maddox be proud of me. hear me, stability niceness and

civility didst not mean weakness. strength is not a matter of how hard or allowed to stay. it's a matter in getting results. i've got results. send me to washington and i will get the results that will impact your life every day. [applause] >> thank you all. >> you've heard me use the word corporate. i didn't choose that lightly. that type of person that urban elite that wants to rub elbows with their friends at the country club. that's how a baseball team becomes a guardian and that's how you sit on the corporate board that gives millions of dollars to planned parenthood and gives money to anti-israel groups and says hey that was just owner directed and i'm not responsible for that. that's not leadership. we need real leadership in washington and there is one of us that can be sherrod brown and go to washington to bring conservative values to save this country and that's exactly what i will do.

[applause] >> ernie moreno. >> thank you for being here and thank you for listening. this is a stark contrast. we sent an outsider to washington d.c. in 2016. we sent a perpetual career politician to washington d.c. and 2020 and one with joe biden. math will do the same thing in 2016 for we have enough career politicians. we outsiders in d.c. want to get things done and make certain we put the interest of america first. this is for me a simple thing. i have the honor of your vote i will serve two terms. my opponents want to be there for the rest of their lives. and thank you gentlemen. that is all. [applause] one month ago. that's all for senate form and i want to thank the candidates and

their partners the university of findlay thank you so much in the republican party for helping to make this form possible. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. [applause]

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