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hi everyone. i'm jessica gene in washington and we begin with breaking news, oversees a frantic search and rescue operation is underway weigh in northern iran. after a helicopter crash involving iranian president ebrahim raisi. officials say they have now detected the exact location of the crash site after hours of struggling to find it due to extreme fog and bad weather there that crash happening early this morning after the president and other officials attended a ceremony for the open putting of a new near the border with azure by john cnn's nic robertson ies tracking all the latest developments from london and pentagon correspondent oren liebermann is here in washington with us with reaction from the us nic. let's start first with you. and what we're learning about this search the search has been hampered because there's dense fog and that's the reason it's understood that the helicopter
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crash in the first place. it's raining. i've been looking at video that's been posted on social media by some of the rescue services in iran. >> and the weather is absolutely atrocious that the the rescue team are struggling up the mountainous hillside and rain. >> they're sort of leaning into the rain obviously it's nighttime there and it's dark. so although we understand from the elite islamic revolutionary guard corps in eastern asia, beige on that province right up in the northwest of afghanistan and amount northwest of iran in the mountains, there they said, although they say that they pinpointed the location, it's actually difficult. it appears for them to get in there because it's mountainous. they have to get over high mountains to get their vehicles close. it's been raining a lot is the end of the rainy season. the roads muddy. it's difficult conditions for the rescue workers to move in. there's medics, there's police, there's army, there's elite
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revolutionary guard corps. there's even mountaineers on the rescue and recovery team. and the reason that the irgc says they've been able to locate the helicopter is they say they got a signal from the helicopter and they were able get a signal from a cell phone that was a board that helicopter a few hours earlier and iranian official had said that actually had some sort of communication on a couple of occasions with a passenger on the president's helicopter and one of the crew members from the president's helicopter and they were saying at that time that it appeared that the impact may not have been traumatic, but obviously the concern is now the middle of the night, high mountains were talking close to 600 feet. some of those mountains, it's very cold it's raining, it's foggy conditions the iranians have actually called on the turkish authorities to lend them a helicopter with night vision to again, better a them to get into the exact location so anyone who survived a crash up
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there, and that's about 11 hours ago when this first all triggered that the president's helicopter had gone missing, will have had to survive some pretty harsh conditions. so the president, the supreme leader in the country, is calling on iranians to pray for the president right now all right. >> nic robertson, thanks so much for that reporting. let's turn now to oren liebermann. lieberman to talk more about what the us is doing. it's monitoring the situation but that's about the extent of it at this point, it sounds like, of course president joe biden was briefed on this earlier today, according to the white house press secretary, but you haven't seen any public statements not from biden himself or from anyone else in the administration, but of course, the white house, the national security council, the state department, the pentagon monitoring this very closely. the reason we haven't seen a statement first, the us is trying to figure out exactly what happened here. and that's difficult not only because of the remote region where does happen, but also because it's simply difficult to get information and much of that
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will come from iran. in addition, the us doesn't want to be seen as a all venice in any way. so at this point, at least best to keep an arm's length away from this and wait for iran and iranian state media here, to clarify exactly what happened here in terms of the consequences here at the us watching that very closely as well, of course in a d stable region, how this could further destabilize the region we have seen iranian proxies, their carry out scores of attacks on us forces in iraq and syria, even if that hasn't happened recently, that's a lever. iran could very easily turn on again the houthis. meanwhile, another iranian proxy are closely aligned to iran, could also carry out further attacks on us naval assets and commercial vessels in the region. so there are many good reasons for the us to watch this very closely in terms of the indirect relationship between the us and raisi, he has been under us sanctions from back in 2019 when he was the head of the judiciary there, he was sanctioned because of the
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oversight he had as the judiciary carried out executions of juveniles. so the us has had him under close watch for some time now, as well as his movements and his role in iran's diplomacy. he is viewed as much more hard line than his predecessor rouhani from several years ago, he, when he was inaugurated, had a much harder line in negotiations to try to renew the jc poa, the iran nuclear deal, which ultimately fell apart there was perhaps a bit of a breakthrough back in september when under racy, there was the release of five american hostages in exchange exchange for the white house and the biden administration unfreezing some 6 billion in iranian assets, but that didn't lead to some major breakthrough in relations here. so the us watching this again. but unlikely to say anything until there was a much better picture of what happened. >> there's a lot of dynamics at play. oren liebermann, thanks so much for that reporting and joining us now seen a national security analyst and former deputy director of national
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intelligence, beth san are seen and military analysts spider marks, a retired major general and the us army, and holly daggers fellow at the atlantic council, where she edits the iran source blog. great to have all of you here, beth, let's start with you. i'm just curious what you think the immediate fallout is from this crash, knowing that there's a lot we don't know right now exactly. it's so easy to try to get ahead of ourselves here and start talking about all the things coming down the road and we don't even know if he's dead yet. but i think that there are a couple of things to keep in mind here. one is that we really know that the iranian leadership is quite concerned obviously they about looking like they are very, very much in control of this. i think that's why we're seeing this kind of unprecedented amount of transparency. they want to be seen as competent and they do not want to see be seen as vulnerable we've seen on social media that they're fireworks going off in parts of iran celebrating a purported
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death of raisi. so they're trying to warn both the public and also any adversary's particularly israel, that you've been are not dare. we are in control here and general we're looking at images right now of the search and rescue. this was before it got dark there and even still it's so foggy, really hard to see the hours have passed now since that chopper went down now it is dark. what is a search like this? look like? they're in really difficult terrain yet significantly difficult terrain. excuse me, in a conditions as you can see by these images are, it's very soupy a lot. you can probably see no more than 20 or 30 feet in front of you. look any search and rescue has a significant reliance on a ground component first of all, you want to know where it's located. and if you can air lift something into that location. great. what we've seen is that that's not
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possible yet. so the ground component is absolutely essential and it's been delayed any search and rescue, it's all about time. when you're notified and when you can get there, initially provide some first aid and then to try to rescue and evacuating personnel from the site this is going to take some time. it's obviously at night. you're going to need the light of day. >> you're going to need this micro weather pattern to go away. >> they may launch aircraft recovery aircraft like helicopters from a very nice piece of terrain and a very nice weather pattern. >> and then you get into one of these micro patterns and it's entirely different so a lot remains to be seen. >> and as beth is indicated, it's all about at the strategic level to make sure that everybody understands friends and the opponents understand that they're trying to breathe through their nose as they go through this. but there's a lot that we do not no one won't know for a while. >> that is absolutely true. and holly, to that end, i do think immediately people start to question and say, how could
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this affect the broader region, which is obviously a tinderbox right now? >> well, i think it's important to note that article 131 of the atomic republics constitution denotes that the vice president of the country takes over the homes and so we'll be expecting collections in the next 50 days. but the key decision maker here is a supreme leader himself, ayatollah ali harmony. and so president of the country will not change any decision-making without his blessing. and as long as khamenei's and office, you won't see much change in the region for the time being, right? >> and that's such an important point because the president is the commander in chief, doesn't have a lot of the power like we're used to seeing presidents have, correct and that's why it seems like this will be let's smooth transition, but i think the key here is to emphasize the fact that this is a country that's marred by systemic mismanagement, corruption of repression, the people on the ground want the islamic republic gone. >> and as beth noted earlier iranians are celebrating. i watched social media at a pulse
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on society on social media and all the memes online are talking about celebrations and i just want to highlight one example, amino matt gd, who was killed by security forces during the woman life freedom uprising. her daughters but since fled the country, are posting a video of themselves online celebrating with alcohol and the event that racy the president and the foreign minister have died in this ring we're off, so that should really give you a sense about the mood on the ground. there. >> for sure. for sure. >> and beth, the iranian government, as you mentioned, trying to control this message and make sure that they are in their way. they think trying to be transparent obviously with state media that can be a difficult thing to achieve. >> but what do you make about how they are releasing the information, what they're releasing? >> their strategy here this government is not known for competence or like being on top of emergency events. >> when we just look back a few
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months ago, when they had this largest terrorist attack at the funeral of a senior irgc leader, officer general and this was just proceeded by the attack in moscow by isis k we warn them and that's still took, took place. they've had multiple kinds of natural disasters they never do well and so i think that part of this is to really show that they are competent and it's holly mentioned, to try to put a veneer on, again, this idea that they know what they're doing, and that people should think of them as a competent regime but if he does end up being dead, we have really some rough head days ahead of us in terms of raisi, even though he wasn't the decision maker, he was this kind of point of just steadiness and the person who
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was going to help provide continuity for the iranian in regime through an upcoming succession of the 85-year-old supreme later and so the regime right now is going to be really, really careful because they know that things are going to be rough in the coming days. >> and hawley, you're talking about social media, keeping in height or what's happening actually on the ground in iran. and beth talking about how the government, how the regime wants to project competence and that there are in control. >> do you think they're succeeding in that right now it's hard to say because i would say this is itself, it's a big headache right now. it's a headache. they didn't need. we were just talking talking about the tinderbox situation in the region and the domestic situation on the ground i think it's worth also noting that raisi was seen as maybe being that's contender as the next supreme leader of the atomic or public. and that means that opportunity is gone and yes,
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that the political situation, domestic politics is not changing but just the fact that this person that was a top contender for this role might shift the dynamics on the future of the atomic republic itself and so i think that's also key to note that get have some broader implications general good can i, can i just a second. >> i think it's important that when we get beyond the domestic turmoil, that has just been described so emphatically and clearly, the key, the key thing in my mind is this won't effect or ron's relationship burgeoning relationship with russia and russia's efforts in ukraine in terms of delivery of munitions and drones, et cetera so i think it's important that we realize there's going to probably be as described, some internal turmoil i don't think there will be any change in terms of iranian perspective and what it's doing in terms of prosecuting war by proxies in the mideast, elsewhere in
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the red sea and its efforts, a russia's efforts in ukraine i'm beth. >> i did want to ask. yeah. about that. what your thoughts were on that line of thinking yeah. >> i mean, i think as spider mentioned, a couple of times now, i think this idea of a ron's reliance on proxies, and its alliances big, a little a, however you want to look at it with russia into a slightly lesser extent with china those dependencies i think are going to be even more, right? so the idea that anything would change in a positive direction, i think we could get caught up in wishful thinking. i think that a regime that's feeling vulnerable it's dangerous and they're going to double down on these relationships. and a spider kind of started us off with, we might even see an uptick in some of the behavior by the proxies in order to distract not a direct any
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provocation by iran because they wouldn't want that they're not prepared for that, but we could see some wag the dog in holly. >> what's your what's your interpretation of all this? >> well, it's really hard to speculate on where things are gonna go. i think they're going to try to make this as smoothly as possible given the regional dynamics but it again, it's, it's been an interesting few months in the region with the atomic republic. >> i think it's noteworthy that we were in a situation where the atomic republic attack to nuclear sure arm states pakistan and israel and the span of a few months. so i think that there is some instilled instability and unknown stare. >> all right, wonderful analysis and contexts from all you. thank you so much. we really appreciate it and ahead in the cnn newsroom, a white house envoy makes an urgent trip when the genes came out, i thought, oh my god when bob has a friend, he expects blind
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you learning about his meetings? >> yeah, so yesterday he started in saudi arabia where of course the situation in gaza was being discussed, but also the two-state solution and what the saudi is described as a credible two-state solution. we know that the us has for quite some time wanted to normalize relations between the israeli he's and the saudis. but since the war began in october, the saudis have made very clear that they would not agree to that unless there was a credible eras are irreversible pathway to a two-state solution. but as recently as this weekend, you have these really prime minister benjamin netanyahu making abundantly clear that he does not support the creation of a palestinian state. >> those discussions in saudi arabia, national security adviser jake sullivan, according to the americans, brought with him to israel to brief the prime minister on those. and potential for what could happen if there was some kind of a deal. what's
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interesting is that this normalization deal is also one of the demands that now benny gantz, the opposition leader, is one of the demands that he is making them more progress be made on that. but even gantz does not support the creation of a palestinian state, but he insists that the saudis aren't necessarily asking for that. they are asking for the pathway to one. of course, the situation gaza was also brought up according to the both the israeli side of the meeting and the american side as well. the american said that they discussed ways to minimize civilian casualties there, and they also want the not only more aid to be getting in, but they also want the israelis to connect their military efforts there to some kind of end game, something that they've been pushing for for quite some time. what happens the day after the war actually ends. this is also something that benny gantz has been pushing. benjamin netanyahu on as well. jessica and it's, got pellets, palestinian health official say
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at least 35 people died in an airstrike in central gaza overnight. what are we learning about that airstrike so this was the, nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. >> and people there, according to our stringer on the ground, who shooting video of the aftermath said that people heard one very loud explosion that was big enough and powerful enough to essentially level most of five houses in that area people were digging through the rubble with barely more than their bare hands. they don't have heavy machinery to get people out. and so the chances of finding survivors in time, our greatly, greatly diminished. we also got video from the morgue there where you have the floor literally filled with body. some of them literally stacked on top of one another and some are very clearly women and children. of course, we know that some 800,000 people have fled rafah seeking safer areas of gaza. some have gone to that humanitarian zone along the coast. but given the lack of
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infrastructure to accommodate that volume of people, others are trying to find safety in other places clear surely they did not find it here. so i'm bystanders say that people who were there, some of them had recently come to rafah. what exactly are come from rafah, i should say, what exactly were the israelis trying to hit in this strike? we don't know. we have reached out to them for comment. they wouldn't comment on specifics other than two stressed that they follow international law in their efforts to dismantle hamas. jessica. >> yeah, it's gotten maclean forest and assemble. thank you so much for that reporting i had it's been a busy weekend for president biden, who is pushing for support among blank voters as numbers suggests that crucial voting block maybe some funding for him more than 500 hundred million dollars in art stolen. they saw what turned out to be the biggest dark heist in history. >> you can't help but wonder if this was some sort of fee inside job. >> how would really happen? with jesse l. martin tonight at
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you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 808 to one 4,000 we continue to follow breaking news at this hour. iranian officials say they pinpointed the site where the helicopter carrying or ron's president crashed in a remote part of azerbaijan and that crews are on their way. the white house saying president biden has been briefed on his way to detroit for a campaign stop and joining us now is senior white white house reporter kevin lip tack kevin, what more can you tell us the president was briefed on air force one as he was coming here to detroit, we learned that from the press secretary creech empire, but otherwise, white house officials aren't saying a great deal about the situation as the details are still coming in, as they're working to ascertain what exactly happened on the ground there, but i can tell you, jessica officials at the white house at the state department, sort of across the government wide watching this very, very closely because it
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certainly does add another level of volatility to what was already quite an uncertain situation. >> both in a row ron and the wider middle east, of course, president biden still confronting that war in israel between israel and hamas. and that conflicts was something of a backdrop for this speech that the president delivered earlier today in atlanta at morehouse college, there had been some controversy ahead of the president's visit. there some students in some faculty disagreeing with him, certainly on his approach to israel and the broader sort of conflict that's unfolding there. there were thoughts that there could have been protests that this speech in the end, the president's speech was not interrupted, although some students did turn their back on him while he was speaking and in his remarks, he did address the situation in gaza head-on, listened to a little bit of how he framed what's happening in
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gaza and israel is heartbreaking hamas is vicious attack on israel, killing innocent lives, and holding people hostage innocent palestinians caught in the middle of all this men, women, and children killed or displaced displayed in desperate need of water, food, and medicine it's a humanitarian crisis in gaza that's why i've called for an immediate ceasefire an immediate ceasefire to stop the friday bring the hostages home so the president, acknowledging some of the frustrations surrounding this war. and i thought an interesting leinz just go, it's when he said that even some members of his its own family were frustrated by what's happening on the ground there. of course, his audience at morehouse college was young black men that's a voting constituents see as well that the president is hoping to win back some polls have shown a black voters sort of flocking away from president biden, at
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least compared to where they were in 2020. and that will be his mission here in detroit as well. he'll be speaking at a dinner for the end double acp, certainly in michigan it will be an imperative for president biden to consolidate support among black voters when you think about the other main block of voting block in this key battleground state era americans who have expressed sincere pleasure with the president for his handling of the middle east crisis. >> just remember during the primary people voting uncommitted, but seeing the president there in detroit with kevin lived tack tonight following him. thank you so much for that reporting, kevin and for more, i'm joined by cnn senior political analyst ron brown, steen, ron great to see you. i want to back up and go back to iran for a second and just get your take on. obviously, we don't know a lot of things right now, but his kevin kind of eloquently pointed out it's just another layer, another de-stabilizing factor in a region that is very destabilized right now, what?
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ramifications do you think we might potentially see coming out of there well, i think both in the us government and in the region, people feel like they essentially dodged a bullet with the cycle of escalation between iran and israel that began with the israeli attack on the facility in syria iranian attack and then the israeli response, that kind of did not escalate to a dangerous level. >> it does not appear that this will change policy in iran very much both because the president was a hardliner to begin with, and also because power resides in the supreme leader with the one less, unless around concludes this was concludes this was not entirely an accident and obviously, until we know how they are judging this event, there's always that very potentially destabilizing possibility, right there. >> swing, just need more information at this point. >> let's talk domestic
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politics for a second. we've got a new piece on cnn.com. arguing that after that for years about four years after he left office, now, voters are warming to trump's presidency. why do you think? >> yeah, i mean, this is clearly a challenge for biden. i mean, the retrospective job approval ratings and voters are giving trump in both national and state polls is often higher than his actual job approval at any point during his four years in, office? and i think the key reason this is happening is because of the contrast with biden, the discontent with biden over inflation particularly, and to some extent, immigration are causing voters, i think when looking back at trump to focus more on those issues, then on the other aspects of his presidency that they did isn't like when he was in office. i mean, the openly racist language that confrontation, the chaos. and you can see the biden approach is beginning to change mean largely they had been looking forward, not back, but you notice recent advertising,
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ambulant tino voters focusing on family separation advertising aimed at black voters guessing on trump's attempt to repeal the affordable care act, the appearance and wisconsin, when he talked about trump's failure to deliver the new foxconn plant basically, i think they are stepping up their efforts to remind voters of the other aspects of the trump presidency. they didn't like because right now those are being overshadowed by this sense that things didn't cost as much when he was proud president and therefore, i think he did a better job it is interesting how humans brains work and you mentioning that when he was in office, he didn't have those approval ratings. >> 30 has out of office we also saw senator marco rubio today saying that he will support trump's plan for mass deportations of migrants yet we see biden's support slipping among latino voters at the same time, how do you square all of that yeah, a really important element i think rubio's comments today basically should be a very clear signal to
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everyone that if trump, in fact, attempts to implement the promise or a threat of mass deportation that he has been putting out. >> there would not be meaningful pushback in the republican party. and then in all likelihood, if he is elected the plans that he and stephen miller have been talking about for mass roundups internment camps, deputizing red state national guard troops and sending them into blue cities to remove people. all of this this will unfold. >> and so it really does raise the question now, if you look at what's been happening as with black voters, trump has been gaining among latino voters, and almost all polling largely because of discontent about the economy and inflation. >> and the question, as i've written is whether he can sustain those inroads all the way through november when democrats are able to focus more attention, particularly in the southwest states of nevada and arizona on some of these ideas about mass deportation,
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which by the way would be, as i've written, exceed anything we've seen in american history even the eisenhower example that trump cites did not attempt to remove a fraction as many people as trump is now talking about. so this is kind of a high-wire act that trump is on, on the one hand, he is proposing a lot of really racially polarizing policy proposals that are energizing his core base of white cultural conservatives on a the other hand, he is depending, he is relying on inroads in non-white communities, largely around the economy. and whether he can sustain both of those things through november if he can, he's gonna be the next president. but it's not clear that in fact, he can maintain those inroads all the way through the finish line as these other elements of his agenda, i think get more attention. >> yeah, i do keep coming back to it is may and to your point, there's all these dynamics that could play out. so we have time to see it evolve but it will be interesting to see when people start to really click into this race or what they
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tomorrow the criminal trial of former president donald trump will resume in manhattan with the prosecution's key witness, former trump fixer, michael cohen, back on the stand for cross-examination. >> if the defense is not call witnesses, closing arguments could start as soon as tuesday, cnn's marshall cohen is in new york with more on this and marshall, a big question right now is who, if anyone, will, the defense called to the stand yeah, that's up to them. >> they don't have to put any witnesses on the stand. if they don't want to, the burden of courses on the prosecution to prove its case by jessica, we're starting to be able to see the light at the end of the tunnel here after five weeks of testimony we are nearing the end michael cohen, as you mentioned, we'll be back on the witness stand tomorrow. they are in the middle of the cross-examination. he's being questioned by donald trump's attorneys who are trying to undermine his credibility. they don't want the juror there's
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movies and books and sometimes the stories are rooted in real life. cnn's randy k takes us back to 1990s boston for closer look at one of the biggest art heists ever at one minutes. that's how long it took to pull off the best artist in history. it was st. patrick's day weekend, 1990. the two thieves posed as boston police officers and convinced one of the security guards at boston's isabella stewart gardner museum to buzz them in it was about 1:30 in the morning the path is interesting. >> they took the guards after they handcuffed them and tape them and brought them into the basement about 24 minutes elapsed before we see them again motion detectors place throughout the museum, picked up their trail for nearly an hour and a half it's in this hallway where we see the first motion detectors go off. >> so it's about 1:48 and then walk down this hallway together and they enter the dutch room, which is right there exactly. and from the dutch room, they took six pieces and that's where interpreting the
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rembrandt the three rembrandt's, the vermeer, the flink, and the chinese vessel and that's where the, in terms of dollar value, that's where the lion share of the theft occurred. >> as the clock ticked, one thief stayed behind in the dutch room and cut some of the paintings out of their frames. the other thief headed back down the hallway same path backwards, goes through the early italian room, the raphael room, all over all the while passing incredibly priceless art and walks back through to the short gallery where the thief takes five sketches by dig off, and a napoleonic finial from a top of a flag that napoleon's first regiment carried later this oil painting by edward manet was taken from the blue room on the first floor hung right below manet's portrait of his mother it was about eight by ten, and it was gold gilded frame, and it was here adding to the mystery,
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even though motion detectors picked up the thieves trail by the entrance on the first floor and all throughout the second floor, there are no records of anyone entering the blue room and if the thieves knew how to evade the motion detectors, why would they only do so in the blue room at 2:41 a.m. the door to the museum opens and closes, and then opens and closes again. four minutes later it must have taken the thieves those two trips in and out to load up the art then just as suddenly as they arrived, the thieves were gone. randy k, cnn, boston and tune. and tonight at nine for how it really happened. gardner art high, stealing, beauty all right. back simons are going off and firing the tornado here
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