experience without the premium price then go to harrys.com slash tv to claim your five-dollar trial. were how solomon in new york and myths is cnn far in the cnn newsroom. >> i'm jessica dean in washington and we're following breaking news in the middle east. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, rejecting an ultimatum from a member of his its own war cabinet. warmer israeli defense minister benny gantz is threatening to quit unless netanyahu agrees on a war plan by june 8th let's after 20 years, almost of hamas controlling the area building the most sophisticated operational infrastructure in

gaza there is no shortcut. >> if you want to win this to secure a better future for all of us it calls for decisiveness and that's what we should mobilize that call for urgency coming as the israeli military says, it has recovered the body of another hostage inside gaza officials say ron benjamin was killed during the october 7 attacks and his body was taken into gaza by hamas. also breaking tonight dramatic new video showing many people intercepting aid trucks that had just arrived in gaza today through that floating us military pier. seen as elie and god can ease tracking all of these developments and joins us now from tel aviv, let's talk first elliott about that desperately needed humanitarian aid in gaza other and the video we just showed everyone jessica, this is the $320 million floating pier that the us has financed and built to

help increase the amount of aid getting into the gaza strip. >> and as we can see, and we've seen this in the past with a trucks coming into the gaza strip by land there is such a severe and humanitarian situation and famine and in some places or certainly the cusp of famine in some places that people are prepared to even board moving trucks to try to seize the food. and that's what we saw with several men seizing intercepting these trucks and seizing some of the aid that was on board. and the thing is that this peer has become even more important over the last couple of weeks because the rafah crossing, which is where most of the aid was coming through from egypt into the gaza strip. that's effectively been closed since israel took control of that border crossing. so instead of seeing more and more border crossing. so instead of seeing more and more aid going in as the us administration certainly has been insisting

mass happen less aid has been getting in so this floating pier couldn't come sooner enough. the target vuss is to bring in some 500 tons of aid every single day. jessica. >> and let's also talk about this turmoil within netanyahu's government. the prime minister now rejecting that ultimatum from benny gantz what war was netanyahu saying today he dismissed benny gantz is ultimatum. >> he described them as washed up words and said that to adhere to or to do what benny gantz was suggesting would effectively hand victory to hamas and literally to be abandonment of the hostages still being held in the gaza strip after they were abducted on october the seventh. and i think what we're seeing here as these divisions in israel's war cabinet, which have been reasonably contained over the past few months. now, bursting into the open, just the other day, defense minister yoav gallant, who is the third member of the war cabinet. he

implicitly criticized prime minister netanyahu, who's from his own party. let's not forget effectively because he's not really got a coherent plan in place for the day after the war in the gaza strip. now we've got benny gantz making these criticisms are as well, i should note though, of course, that benny gantz is also the key political rival, to prime minister netanyahu. so not only is he criticizing netanyahu, but he is also if you like positioning himself in front of the electorate for the day when elections come, that said, even if ganz leaves the war cabinet, that doesn't mean that it's going to precipitate elections so long as night netanyahu can keep his far-right ministers in the fold, in his governing coalitions, then you won't have to face the electrode for another 2.5 years. jessica. >> all right. a lot of good context. they're aligarh can thanks so much for that update. we appreciate it. >> and joining us now, democratic congressman jack sometimes i'll connecticut, he's also a ranking member on the house intelligence committee congressman, thanks so much for making time this evening. i first want to ask you about that reporting that

elliott was just laying out about the gazans intercepting aid from the floating pier what's your reaction to that well, jessica, thanks for having me and sadly, we're going to see more and more scenes like that as the humanitarian situation it is already terrible inside of gaza with malnutrition. and starvation, fairly rampant. we're going to see more and more of that sort of thing. it will become increasingly difficult to deliver aid just because people will be so desperate and of course, the more that that is true, the more at risk the united states and united states military is as it guard and manage this pier which frankly is just i can't imagine a more tangible symbol of embarrassment that the united states, which over the many, many years has given in the neighborhood of $150 billion to israel that we would have to build this pier that we can't convince the israelis and the prime minister in particular to open humanitarian

corridors such that we have to build this absurd naval asset to get it in is really problematic. so look, i hope that the pier works. it never should have been necessary, and i hope that the prime minister will take seriously for the first time the need to really open substantial humanitarian corridors and allow the food and the medicine the things that the people of gaza need into, into gaza. >> and you call it an embarrassment for the us that it has to be there. i'm curious if you i think that the us should continue to support israel. do you think it should continue to send it weapons and aid i do. >> and look, i understand that this is a nuanced position that is sort of inconsistent with the polarization that we people that we see as people sort of join a team. i absolutely believe to my core that israel has a right to defend itself and to go after and to eliminate the architects and the people who executed the most the pauling terrorist

attack that we have seen in a very long time on october 7 it is also true that the israelis and the prime minister in particular should do this very differently than they have in the last seven months. this prime minister, who in my opinion, has not done nearly enough to protect civilians who has it not just not outline de, an end game, which of course his own defense minister is demanding in which he rejected. he has rejected a two-state solution over and over and over again. so while he has in my opinion in the laudable goal of defending israel been practically out of control with respect to the humanitarian situation he's dismissed any hope for the palestinians that ultimately are going to need to be a solution here, he has turned to blount, a blind eye to some truly appalling violence on the part of settlers in the west bank. and he has sort of saber rattled with respect to going to war with iran and other things that conceivably have the effect of

drawing the united states into a regional war. so my hope is and look, it's not american politicians job to get involved in israeli domestic politics, but i hope that the prime minister will start listening to those people in his own party who are saying, this is not good for the long term strategic interests of israel and on that note, i am going to ask you in american politician, i am, i do want to now what your reaction is to benny gantz is ultimatum. >> it sounds like from what you're saying, you want him to listen to some of these people within his government i would like it if the prime minister would listen to anyone and i've been in his company any number of times and my experience has been that that's not what he does and he has an awful lot to answer for starting with, of course, october 7 and how that was ever allowed to happen? >> and, he has shown the back of his hand to the president united states, time and time again, even as the president of the united states has risked his own office to stand with israel to say that i will

continue to support this generational ally of ours. and what troubles me most here is what happened has been a catastrophe for all concerned. but every party and i don't for one second believed that hamas will do this, but every party, the israelis, the world, the americans, you name it the jordanians, et cetera, have to have an eye on what the future looks like if you don't have a plan for the future this war will grind on and on and on israeli soldiers will die. gazan civilians will die. and in the long run, that's not acceptable and i want to ask you to about this meeting between the chinese president xi jinping and russian president vladimir putin. >> we're seeing them come together back in april. secretary blinken warned of chinese attempts to influence the upcoming election. and of course, russia has been accused of doing the same. and now we have them meeting with each other in this election year. how concerned are you about their relationship and what can be done to make sure that they don't metal. in american

elections well, two separate issues. >> i have very little doubt that the russian military effort today is sustained largely by the oil purchases in the trade between china and russia. and generations from now, if china is sort of figures out how to get back into to the stable rule driven world order, which i think they have a profound interest in doing they will have to answer to history for doing that there are ukrainians dying on the battlefield today because the chinese have supported the russian economy and i think that's unconscionable, by the way, they're not the only ones i wish the indians would not be so keen about purchasing at a deeply discounted price the oil of a murderous regime that is looking to complete really rewrite the global order. it is not inconceivable that china or india might someday be the subject of a territorial dispute. by the way, they have territorial disputes with each other. and so it's a

profoundly cynical game. the china's playing because russia has effectively become a oil supplying vassal to them and they need energy but again, the impact on the ground in ukraine is just morally appalling. >> and before i let you go, i want to come back here to america domestic politics. i do want to ask you about what happened in the oversight committee earlier this week with the back-and-forth in the name calling that was going on in that meeting you think about americans watching this unfold and they think what how is this good for anyone and how is anything getting done up there what? >> what would you say to them well, let me connect it to the previous conversation we just had and look in twitter, tiktok instagram world, i know that it entertains people, but we are the most powerful country on the planet. our government is really essential. we are or have been a model to the rest

of the world. there's a reason why everybody wants to come to the united states and it's partly economic, it's also partly because we have a functioning government and sadly, what we saw in the oversight committee the other night was a circus. it was clown like and not only is it not be fitting a country that i think of as a great country, but it just plays right into and this is connecting it to our previous discussion. exactly what president gee, and vladimir putin would like the world to see. they would like the world to see in the very core of american democracy, a circus and of course that's what they saw and that oversight hearing and frankly, i understand that it's good and funny content for instagram and tiktok, but it's a serious and dangerous world and the world needs to know that the united states is being statesman like and deliberate the way we govern ourselves and the way we act in the world. >> congressman jim chaim, thanks so much for the time tonight. we appreciate it thank you we'll be right back my

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hamas to establishing an alternative government in the gaza strip. but one key demand is the safe return of the many hostages who are still being held by hamas. jonathan dekel-chen, son soggy, has been missing since hamas attacked israel on october 7, and jonathan joins this now. jonathan, thank you for making time. i first want to just say we are so sorry. i know. you think about this every waking moment and i hope that your son is back to you very soon. i want to ask you about the remarks made by former defense minister benny gantz earlier today. and what you think about what he had to say well, look, i i think that all israelis or almost all israeli certainly believe that now is not the time for pity politics on any sayyed. >> we. are in the midst of a national crisis we need politicians to be states.

smith's states, people and leaders and not not trying to to or not interested mostly in narrow their own personal narrow a political interests that's the demand from israeli society. and that all comes down to getting the hostages home. it is an absolute consensus and israel that that should be the first priority it's been clear to most israelis for most of these last horrific seven months that our government, and in all of its parts has not prioritized the fate of the hostages enough and i can't say for sure what this or that politician statement how that could possibly benefit the fate of the hostages. we need action and not political squabbling and that action is

long overdue and that is the demand from from israelis this is not about arm wrestling in domestic israeli politics. that is of very little interest to anyone. >> it sounds like and i feel like i'm hearing from you that you feel is that the government has failed. you hear well, the government failed miserably on october 7, a benjamin netanyahu has been prime minister since from the vast majority of the time since 1996, what happened on october 7, was a catastrophic failure of leadership. >> and obviously military intelligence, but mostly leadership. and this very same government has, for the most part, in refused to take any kind of real accountability for what has happened and has been as hundreds of thousands, millions of israelis in the street. we'll say has been totally unresponsive to the

demands to do more to get our hostages home. these people, both the 1,500 were murdered by hamas on october 7, and now, hundred and 28 remaining hostages, we hope most we know that not all of them are alive, but most of them they cannot be abandoned. again, after october 7 and our government far too often and the individual ministers have made it clear that they are willing to sell sacrifice these hostages for some fantastical war victory for them in it leaves the hostages behind and so what is, what is the right outcome for you and your eyes right now? is it to go to the talks and agree? what would you like to see happen? >> look until october 7. i in my family, including my sons, young family, that lived on

kibbutz nir owes, which is a mile from the border with gaza. we have been living with hamas rockets and mortars and attacked anoles anti-tank fire, explosive kites, incendiary balloons. since 2007, no one can needs to convince me that hamas must be eradicated as a military and a governing force. it's important for the world, not just for israelis especially important for palestine dyneins, because this misery that they're experiencing, the million palestinians, its source is hamas. now in a world that was somehow rational, hamas would end the suffering of everyone by releasing these ask judges that were ripped from their homes evidently that's not going to happen because brutal terrorist organizations don't do that sort of thing. so an absence of that while he israeli military, of course,

its job is to put pressure on hamas as much as possible. that being said the only only way the vast majority of israelis and most of the israeli military and intelligence establishment believes that the only way that those remaining hostages who are still alive can come home alive to israel is by, through some sort of negotiated process in conjunction with pressing shirt both military pressure and international pressure on hamas in order to arrive at any kind of negotiated settlement as painful as it might turn out to be for israel, you have to remain at the negotiating table and mobilize to the degree that you can the intermediaries and work in conjunction with them the israeli government has not been consistent about its commitment to this awful negotiation process. it would be wonderful if we had decent

negotiating if we had, on the other side some decent human beings, we do not, we have animals on the other side, but that's who we have to negotiate with through are intermediaries and our demand both families of the remaining hundred and 28 hostages but also israeli society as a whole, demands from our government that it commit and stay committed to this negotiation process, at least as much as it's committed to this idea of the physical eradication of hamas which in and of itself will not get our hostages home alive. jonathan dekel-chen. >> thank you so much for wishing you all the best and we hope you see your son very soon, we'll be right back. >> thank you when the competition is a nuclear competition, spying is extraordinarily important the russians were trying to spy on

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encouraging smile or a text is i climbed my way up the ladder here and i know that personally i miss her very much and i'm very sad to hear this news and she brought us all so much information and insight it was such a valuable piece of the team here at cnn. and we're all processing this news as it was so sudden and joining us now on the phone is seeing an anchor wolf blitzer wolf. hi, this is a terrible thing to have to report to everyone. alice was such not only a wonderful insight and brain and asset here at cnn, but she was also just a good person, a person whose faith was so much at the center of her life absolutely right. >> to jessica. she was really, really a very special woman. she was always an excellent excellent, friendly colleague. was always there for us whenever we viewed are including yesterday, which was armed with me and maria cardona. i know she had a special relationship, a good

working relationship with murray as well. they were very good friends and colleagues and i am so sad when i heard just a little while ago just broke the epa very, very sad to hear because we will miss her greatly. she's just a wonderful, wonderful friend, a wonderful colleague, a great person going back to all your memory is going back many, many years and arkansas and you know wolf and i would think you probably feel the same way you know, when when you're in television, you have the relationship with each other on television, but there's, of course the brakes and the green room. >> and you see each other in the hallway. and what was wonderful and sparkling about alice was that it was as much funding maybe even more fun to see her in those moments and those human moments as well as when we had her on talking about politics to be was always something good to talk about with their march where we always invited her to come on my show because we knew we

would be a little bit smarter at the end of that conversation, where we work to be that conversation because she always helped us better appreciate what was going on. she helped our viewers better appreciate what was going on and that's why we will this are so, so much even yesterday when she was on with nearly a cardona she posted a picture of the three of us afterwards. if it was just a friendly reminder of how specialist woven really years was absolutely, absolutely will stay with us. we want to come back to you. i believe we also have seen an anchor, dana bash and are you with us i am jessica dana, i am so sorry that we're talking under these circumstances but i think king about you and your background and coming up in politics and you covering arkansas politics two, you've known alice a long time i have. >> i first met alice in 2007.

she was working on the mic huck ob presidential campaign. his first one and it was an upstart campaign. and i was a political reporter and i was assigned to cover all of the republican candidates. and i, like many of us kind of just set up shop in iowa and alice was somebody who was one of the people who was certainly a true believer of my cook ob and it was her first entree into national politics, working on the hook could be campaign. and even then she was doing her job and acting as a spokesperson, a press secretary for my kirby. she was always somebody who told him straight she told it straight with a smile with good nature and she also had this understanding of what it is that we as

reporters, as journalists, needed. first and foremost, the facts information, but also sort of the color and the context about why her boss was doing what he was doing, and why the campaign was doing what it was doing, because as you said, when you came on, jessica she she came from journalism. she started out in her home state of georgia and savannah and then she went to little rock where she was an anchor as you said, it was where you were as well until she made the move over to politics to work for the then governor of arkansas, macaca be before she ended up on the presidential campaign that i was talking about and so that's when i first met her and she was so valuable to not just my cauce but after hit campaign was over to other candidates who sort of hired her right away when they decided that they wanted to run for president, whether it was rick santorum in 2012 ted cruz

in 2016. she also worked for michelle bachman and in-between, she would continue to sort hone her for skills and her knowledge and our expertise and that jessica is what we benefited from at cnn. one of the many reasons she was so valuable to us on our political panels. and part of our discussion to us and to our viewers is because she brought that experience. she brought that understanding of how republican politics, republican campaigns work. and she never, ever did it with anything other than a smile with even keel. and it was so important to have her as you started saying, and i'll toss it back to you just like a the key thing that people should know about alice is also what we got to know behind the scenes. and on the human level. and just a one thing i'll share with you is

it was just maybe a month ago, i walked into the makeup room and there was just beautiful vase with beautiful flowers and they look like fresh cut flowers. and i said, where did this come from? it's so pretty and they said, oh, alice cut these from her garden and brought this in because she knew that it would make us happy and that in a nutshell was alice stewart. >> i love that story. dana, and it's so, so, so true of course here, everyone is absorbing this news is human mentioned behind the scenes to the maker rooms just out that door, we have a fluorochrome here and she was beloved. and it is, it is very hard for everyone to kind of grapple full with this very sudden loss. dana, thank you so much. i want to go now to laure coats seen an anchor, laura coates, who's also with us and laura, i know you analyse we're close to oh my god, i just can't believe it. jessica, to think about alice being gone. i you know, i was a contributor as you all know before i became an anchor. and

we are friends. i mean, when we are when people think about, i wonder what happens behind the scenes and when people have different viewpoints, when people don't agree politically, or perhaps in other ways, i wonder what it must be like behind the scenes. and let me tell you what it was like if alice stewart was in the room if she was in the room, she was unapologetically guided by her moral compass. >> she was as interested in your viewpoints as she was expressive about her own she ensured that somebody had a space to communicate. >> that even if it meant that there was a disagreement, that there was still grace and honore and your ability to say it, and her ability to have an open mind to receive it and her goal was not to change your mind. her goal was to ensure that all of us had an opportunity to give information and to make sure that people have a voice and that people

felt seen and represented. and whatever spectrum would ever view, whatever walk of life. and i really just so appreciated her as a human being, as a friend, i always admired her curiosity. it honestly sounds very odd for me to use the past tense when i'm talking about alice, because she is somebody who routinely filled in for me on sirius xm, the potus channel, as a well-respected journalist, as a radio host, hugh was an emmy award winning journalist as well. and so she would take the reins repeatedly, consistently and have dynamite conversation patients where people looked forward to hearing the way that she was able to navigate complex and difficult minefields in a way that left you feeling more resolved, more for informed. and you always felt that she was a good

person. i'm so glad that dana mentioned the tulips that she would bring because it really is such an analogy for her life where she would recognize something and say, this this would make somebody happy. and i'm going to share it with the world and i am going to sincerely miss my friend my colleague, i'm going to miss the conversations we were able to have the support woman to woman. she would give the behind the scenes, championing and cheerleading he would see something she would say something she would give you expression or a look to tell you that she saw something do and then she would talk to you about it? and whether it was seeing her in the hallways or in the makeup room or outside the the bureau or anywhere alice stewart will be remembered for her grace for her beautiful mind, her spirit,

and the way she made you feel when you were in her presence i could not agree more with all of those things, laura, you are absolutely we describing the friend and colleague that we all knew so well, and we're also hearing on x from jake tapper, our colleague, horrible news about our beloved and gifted commentator alice stewart, just awful. >> we are all gutted also from collins, just devastating news about our colleague, alice stewart chew always be remembered by her kindness above all we've got jim acosta on the line as well. jim, it was her kindness. i mean laura is just describing the cheerleading and i mentioned this a little bit ago. i was on the receiving end of that and it was just it's so nice and kind to have somebody out there that is willing to chile you and encourage you. and that's what was an amazing thing about alice. and i know the two of you on this particular show set for many, many segments

together yeah yeah. jessica i i'm really heartbroken get over this alice was a friend she wasn't just a panelist or an expert i loved her so much and she and i got to be friends back in the 2012 campaign. she was working for rick santorum back then and i got my first taste of alice's a tremendous wit in there was, there was a summit during that campaign where mitt romney aide said, well we're not worried about what romney said during the primaries. we can just do an etch a sketch and he'll be just fine for the general election and we were at a mitt romney rally one day and alice shows up and being and she says, jim, i'm here, come outside and alice had a bag full of extra sketches that she was handing out to the press. she had

pulled over at a toys r us and bought a bunch of small extra sketches to try to point across from the sanatorium campaign that romney can't get away with this anyway, that's the kind of sense of humor that alice brought to the table she was conservative but what for her, it wasn't about winning every debate, every argument she sincerely held onto her beliefs and that was one reason why i always enjoyed having her on with maria cardona because we can have these and we did it for years on the weekend edition of newsroom. you know, you can have these heart-to-heart conversations very strongly held views could be expressed, but done in a civil and professional manner and i think that's what sets alice apart from so many other political pundits that she, she really lead with the heart and

one other thing that we should know about alice is that she was a fellow up, but harvard and invited me up there onetime invited a lot of cnn up there and this was politics. there's just a passion for her. it was her life and it just flowed out of her and just to echo what dana i'm laura was saying. absolutely. that's why we're all broken up over this is because she was such a tremendously kind person and always as laura was saying, a few moments ago, always trying to lift you up. she always came on set with this big smile on her face and that that wonderful southern accent of hers. >> he stressed that you had would just melt away when you're in a president. >> and i'm just going to miss her dealer dearly and it does remind me of what we are told that god takes the good ones early and i'm, i'm gonna miss her. >> i know terribly it is a

very, very sad day and it is it is a hard thing to absorb. >> and jim, i know it is hard it aching with you listening to you talk about it because it is such a devastating piece of news again if you're just joining us we're very sad to report that our political commentator, alice stewart has died at the age of 58 dana. if you're still there, i'd like to go back to you because jim brought up something that i also think is worth repeating because you've also covered politics for a now and politics is what it is today. it is very divided. it is hyperpartisan, it is rough and tumble. it is insults all the way. and what was unique about alice is that she wasn't like that. she was smart. she knows firm she was very much a believer in her conservative values and hurt her conservative beliefs, but she was, she was not mean-spirited and she never she always stayed above the fray.

>> and that's unique these days yeah. sure. sorry. >> kim drink every good absolutely absolutely. >> and, you know, i'm thinking just even up some the most sort of personal contentious politically, but very deeply held philosophical debates that go on and are still raging. and was really exploded after roe v. wade was overturned. and i'm just thinking about some of the conversation patient that she had an abortion. i mean, that's an example of where she had had very deep philosophical, i believe, religious belief in her, in her views against abortion and it was a conversation that she would have in various forum and she would express herself in a

way that was really important for our viewers and for people on america to hear, particularly when she was having a debate with somebody who disagree with her because she could do it in a way that was with her heart, with her head, but not with any anger, any higher and it was that just as an example to something i was thinking about one of the important examples of how crucial it was to have her and her just her point of view. but her or as a person, her to express that point of view and also to give the political analysis of how it's playing because she worked in politics for so many high-profile candidates. and in so many, so many places, it was invaluable

and that's where kind of, again, the very kind person the warm soul that we're describing cannot be separated from the ideas and the smarts that she expressed to give to our viewers and give our colleagues and understanding better understanding of our political discourse absolutely absolutely. >> stay with us. >> we have maria cardona on the phone. >> is well, we're area there hi, jessica? >> yeah. >> maria. >> okay well, i'm so sorry that we you're talking about this and i know you analyse spent a lot of time together opposite sides of the political aisle but a real friendship that youtube had that's exactly right. >> jessica i'm going to try to make it through alice was a

sister to me and everything that everyone has said is absolutely right on. i'll talk about the civility and the decency of our debates every time that she and i were on, we've never pull any punches in terms of the debate that we we're having on police liquor, didn't i know. >> but but what always stood out, jessica, is that we did it with civility and respect and love. and if there's anything that everyone should remember about her, and i think this has been underscored by everyone who has spoken is that alice loved period, loved. she loved her family. she loved her dog, sami that i think all of us

slough and adored as well she loved what she did for cnn. du loved what she did at harvard iop. and she loved communicating her passion about politics about the importance of what she held dear in terms of doing these conversations, these really difficult conversations, especially in today's environment doing it with respect and civility. and i remember jessica the day that we were all sent home from cnn when everyone was going virtual because of the pandemic we were no longer going to be in the bureau. alice and i had just finished. i think we were on with jim acosta was one of the last time that we were on the air in the bureau as we went you to coffee shop right down the street and we said, we need to continue these conversations

because more than ever people need to see that people who don't agree and actually have these civil conversations. and that's when the idea for our podcast. hot mic, from left to right was born and we did it, we did it throughout the pandemic. we still have it going on as you know, and i'm talking to you and it's still so unreal to me. and what i remember most about her, jessica every single time that i taught whether weaver at the bureau or whether we were on the phone, he would finish her sentence with okay. maria, i'll talk to you later. i love you. yeah. >> and i would say exactly the same thing and i said it to her yesterday when i was on with her when we had just finished her summit with wolves we were going to see each other this

weekend. we thought maybe we were going to be on because people always call us at the last minute of they need to we were scheduled to beyond on monday with jim and we were going to do are bond. we were going to do are to pay i just can't believe that she's gone, but i want everyone to know what a special person she was especially in this industry is, you know today, politics can be so any decent and so dirty an alice was just such a loving, shining light that paint she came into a room and she would light it up and she was witty and smart and plenty and she would always tease me right before our segments when we went on when, you know, sometimes you have to tell us jessica. okay. ladies, keep it tight there. >> would turn to me and say, did you hear that maria? >> 30 seconds filibuster made

she, would always, be as me like that as you know. and so i love her dearly as we all do a huge loss for cnn. it's a huge loss for politics. it's a huge loss for our conversation. but if we all keep her spirits in our hearts, than he will never be gone. and her additions, her light and her love will always be a part of what we do. and i think that's our obligation. >> so her country into the world satellite i think that's so true. and i think what a testament to a life lived she really didn't sparkle maria. you're exactly right when she walked into a room and just lit up and she brought such positive and happy enjoy. i think joyful is probably the right word. joyful energy just

followed her. >> and it is that is a rare and that's a rare thing to see today. >> and especially as we keep going back to in television news and politics that can be a place that can sometimes be a bit without joy and not some sparkly and we're very lucky okay. that she brought that to us. and maria, i know to, you being personally close with her, as as we all so many of us were her faith was such a big part part of her life as well and she that was so important to her. she just had she had many layers as we all do as anyone does with a life well lived. >> that is exactly right. and that is part of what made her loving person. and i think i've heard dan to talk about one of the toughest conversations that she and i ever have had both personally and on the air was about abortion because of her face and i come at it as a person of faith as well and

those kinds of conversations as you can imagine, jessica could get really nasty arsenal. but we thought that it was really important to have that delicate conversation and to bring to the fore all of what we brought to it her with her face, me, with mine, and i think that was something that was so special that i could always do with her and i can't do that with everybody. and she just brought such an incredibly delicate, loving, and sharp perspective. and we always sought to bring light instead of heat so our arguments, even though they would get a little bit heated, but he never personal as you know, and i will always remember, you know, she she knows me and my family and she knows my kids and she went to my daughter by a luna's khuza'a yet and seeing new when my daughter was confirmed

and she gave me for maya luna, she gave me this gift and it was a beautiful, beautiful cross for my daughter. i wasn't expecting it and it was just i was just so touched because to her that was such a big part of her life and she knew that it was for us as well is safe and it wasn't a it wasn't something that she put on to show off. she lived it every day and we all saw that every day was such an important part of who she was and i will miss her tremendously. and desperately every single day. i think what she again, what she brings to politics is something that we should all endeavor to keep alive because it was such an important part, the civility, the respect to the humanity that was all alice and

we all love her for it. >> i know the humanity that's it. that's it right there. maria, we're so grateful for fear memories, vallis, and we're all very sad and i wish i could hug you, but thank you for talking with us thank you. >> i really appreciate it i know. >> all right. we're gonna be right back. we're gonna take a quick break. >> more than 500 million in art stolen. >> and i saw what turned out to be the biggest archivist in history. three, you can't help but wonder if this was some sort of inside job. >> how would really happen with jesse l. martin to morrow would nine on, you know, when i take the bike out like this almost dresses just melt away. >> i hear that this bad boy i can fix anything yeah, tough day at work.

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