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speech at benedictine college. let's listen to what he said some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world. but i would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world as men, we set the tone of the culture. and when that is absent disorder dysfunction, and chaos set in wow, i don't know what else to say except that there's a big backlash. obviously online and all over the place, more than half the women, half the class is women. are there was a lot of unhappiness by the women, although it's a very conservative college, a lot of people did like it, but it was truly disturbing. and but my favorite part is that he quoted taylor swift, but his, one of his teammates is it's girlfriend and the swifties are on it. and so hopefully there'll be a backlash. >> we should say, the nfl rush to say that he had no way represents the views of the nfl. >> yeah. >> all right. gang. thank you all for being here and thank you for spending part of your day with us. we'll see you
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right back here. next week. >> hello everyone, and welcome to the amanpour hour. here's where we're headed this week supported by china on by north korea and iran as putin tightens his anti-american alliance, a former native, you says the west should make sure ukraine doesn't just hang on, with winds ukraine should receive and are not justice advice, but actually to win the war, then caught between russia and the west. >> the president of georgia says putin used to pull her country back into the kremlin's orbit population here is very well aware of this old russian soviet again, the tweets also this hour bethlehem bourne shell bethlehem born
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chef friday catan on celebrating palestinian food, but struggling to cook while his people have starved in gaza at a certain moment, commodity has to prevail on we're being denied our existence from my archive and earlier war that transformed a small group of israeli settlers into a mass movement that reshaped this holy land and finally, the super sophisticated ai chatbots, blurring the lines between human and machine. go ahead and show me that selfie and i'll put my emotional detective hat on on welcome to the program, everyone, i'm christiana amanpour in london. good to be back with you again this weekend, and we begin with another photo up for the anti-american axis, jiajing ping rolling out the red carpet for vladimir putin for the second time in six months with their military ties and the war in ukraine high on the agenda in a moment, you'll hear the president of russia's
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neighbor, georgia, which was rocked by protest this week, accusing the kremlin of using soviet tactics to sabotage their democracy. it is a story that sounds a lot like moscow's infiltration of ukraine where russian troops have exploited a delays this week with major strategic advances in the northeast. here's what ukraine's defense minister rustem omer off just told the border. >> so they are crossing the border the invasion, the second front started. >> so that's why we are repelling them. and that's why we want to save more lives of people that's why we work with them to the city former nato chief. >> unders faux rest mucin says, putin won't stop unless ukraine is a member of the transatlantic military alliance, he also calls it embarrassing that europe can't deliver as much military aid in a year as north korea can and to russia in a month and as far rest mucin, welcome back to our program. >> thank you.
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>> can i start by asking you about the delay in american aid via advances that russia is making. secretary of state antony blinken was in cubed this week. >> i want to know whether you think the gains by russia now all reversible it is reversible, but obviously the delay in the american age and the lack of fulfillment of the european pledges have made it more difficult for ukrainians and putin is exploiting that situation, are provided that we deliver every thing that ukrainians need, i think they can reverse the development. >> and by that i assume you mean you have to prevail in ukraine. ukraine has to win this absolutely and we should make it a clear goal that ukraine should receive weapons sufficiently to win the war, not just to survive, but actually to win the war.
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>> and i think we should have the ukrainians in their air defense just like we helped israel to protect itself against iranian missile south and drones. we should establish a missile defenses on nature territory along the border of ukraine and help the acquaintance shoot down incoming russian missiles and drones. we need that for humanitarian reasons to protect the civilian population. but also to protect the weapon deliveries that we sent to ukraine and to defend their defendant refers. >> and do you think that the rules of engagement should change because we've heard in the past that when nato sends weapons there are certain constriction, certain restrictions on what ukraine can do with them. >> we should lift all caveat all restrictions include every
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edge, all restrictions, including on the use of weapons. you can not win a war. if the acquaintance have one arm tied to on the back, that's not possible. and when russians use launching pads located on russian territory, obviously they ukrainian should be allowed to target those launching pads secondary general, can i ask you letting me a putin over the last year or so has made it known that he will wait the west out. >> he doesn't believe the west will keep up with it. slogans of full-scale to victory, standing with ukraine. so was it? an editable that we'd get to this point? >> i think we should tell putin that not only will we continue
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our support for ukraine, as long as they take part with as much as it take. so in addition to delivering all the weapons so quite an engineered, we should invite ukraine to start accessing talks with nato. we need ukraine as a bulwark against an aggressive russia. so i think at the nature summit in july in washington, dc, we should extend an invitation to ukraine to start accession talks. and by that we would also tell putin better come to your senses, better stop the wall. you cannot avoid the inevitable ukraine will join nato. >> so, you know that all the other nato leaders or feel pretty much differently, or least most of them that they, even if they wanted to, they wouldn't do it in the midst of a war.
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>> yeah, but that's a very dangerous argument. you de facto give putin and tend to continue the war, to avoid a future ukrainian membership of nato, we have to break that calculation and we can do that by extending an invitation though. >> i was still going on, it would be unprecedented. so and invitation to start accessing talks is not membership overnight, but it is an invitation to start the process. >> what do you make of this week's love fest, if i might say, the anti-american access putting on a big show putin and xi in beijing beijing, we know that they're both very dependent on each other. beijing is bailing out bouton buying russian oil, sending spare parts for all sorts of military equipment. i mean, where do you think this stands right now? >> proteins visit to beijing
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demonstrates that you efforts of china and russia to undermine freedom and democracy they want to diminish the role of the us and its allies and the world. they want a world dominated by dictators and autocrats. and we have to strike back the best way to deter tyrants is to demonstrate firmness and power that's the only language they understand. >> and as for rasmussen formulators, secretary general, thank you very much indeed for joining us. and coming up next. as i just mentioned, my conversation with the president georgia, who blaine's soviet propaganda tricks for trying to pull it back into russia's orbit. and then later bethlehem born chef friday catan on i'm
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fighting for i think the georgia government is trying to take something away from us that we the majority of us is like very desperate to have indeed 80% of georgians, a pro eu, pro the west. >> and the scene outside parliament in the former soviet republic. this week was quite violent while inside brawling lawmakers approved the controversial foreign agents bill critic say it mimics the same laws used by the kremlin to crush opposition and descend georgia's president salome zourabichvili calls it a russian hybrid war to sabotage his dreams of eu membership and pull it back into russia's orbit. much as putin is trying to do with ukraine, as the law passed this week, i asked about the putin effect on her independence the pro western nation presence, rubbish, really welcome back to the program. >> how dangerous and critical. >> a moment is this for
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georgia, and its democratic transition? >> it is critical because as you know a georgia has received the candidate status to the european union last december and was on its way to have the opening of negotiations. addition negotiations by they end of the year so it's very middle point that there is this new pressure. the reintroduction of these russian law because it's nothing else but a russian law. and many other loads that are very disturbing. and that take us a from the recommendations of the european commission and from a european pass in general, the methods that we're seeing today industry, it's all the streets the way to treat a very peaceful protesters is a very russian way. it's a way of intimidation i'm trying to stop the protests and to stop
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people to say that they want their european pass back. >> okay, now, let's get to the nitty-gritty of this law. why is it so opposed by the majority? what makes it so dangerous those groups that back at well, the ruling group that backs it, which we understand this this is pro-kremlin are backed by the kremlin says it is all about sovereignty and you know, and an independence. >> so what do you say about that i suppose it's a copy, a duplicate of the law that putin adopted in 2012. and the logo was used to really the completely oppress and repress the civil society as a result, we see today what's happening in russia. and it has this main aim. and what is even more preoccupying du the country like georgia that has never known that we, that through this slow and through their rhetoric at the state in time, the authorities are calling in
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fact, our partners of 30 years foreign powers that want to subvert the country they are calling them our partners, agents that want here to provoke you war i'm liking cream. would that's what they're saying? >> and the population here is very well aware of this old russian, soviet propaganda traits. >> it doesn't work. they see what's happening and they're going to stop it from happening. >> you say that and you must also be aware of russia's expanding influence. the fact that russia is still occupies some 20% of georgian territory since 2008, as it does in ukraine and russia, success frankly, in driving wedges between its vision and those who believe in a western vision. so the. question i
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guess is are you confident and or rather do you believe that russia tried to is trying to sabotage george's rapprochement and further integration in the eu as some in your country believe i think that russia is worried about that has been worried and his more worried when it comes closer and closer, which is the case when we have already the candidate status and we're in the possibility you have the possibility to see the opening of negotiation so they certainly they would like it but they also do not like the evolution of armenia they also do not like the evolution of azerbaijan and their close less turkey they also didn't like the fact that they do not control the black sea as they would wish to but not everything that russia likes happens. >> so we are again we are dead.
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remind yes, we have 20% of our territory that is occupied by russia, but that does not diverted georgia from following its european pass. it has not stopped us an inch and it will not stop us from continuing well, president salome zourabichvili, thank you very much for joining us. >> and the president is really laying her hopes and those of the georgia majority on elections in the fall that hoped to reverse this draconian new law. and after our conversation, we learn that slovakia's pro-putin prime minister robert fit, had been shot in politically motivated attacks still to come on the program, renowned palestinian chef friday catan, his pride and his heartache for palestinians and their rich culture but first an amputee child learning to play video games with his feet, just one of hundreds of children. are jumana karatay meets at a makeshift camp for gaza
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biggest challenge we face covering the israel-hamas war is the lack of access to foreign journalists while scores of brave gazan journalists have been killed telling this story, cnn's jumana karatay had to travel to doha to talk to some of the injured, homeless and even orphan children who've been evacuated to a former world cup compound in qatar for from a place of deaf in disk traction causes children tried to be children again but everywhere you look here, you see the real cost of reward. israel says is against hamas what the un is called a war on children so many injured, little ones, so many who've lost limbs mood can no longer ride a bike the nine-year-old lost both his arms in an israeli strike is one of hundreds of children evacuated by qatar for medical treatment mahmoud is finding
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ways of living a child shattered. he shows off how he's learned to use his feet to play video games i want to fulfill my dreams. i want to be a journalist and a pilot. he's says, the ones independent child now needs his mother to feed him, dress him, and take him to the toilet i, ask what makes him so resilient? because i'm from gaza, because i'm palestinian. he says, nothing can stop me those children here like my mood don't want to talk about their injuries. they found sanctuary in this unlikely place. a compound qatar built for world cup founds now turned into housing for nearly 2000 gaza evacuees. most of them women and children it's a safe space to deal with the trial amount of war and offers us a firsthand glimpse into the suffering which is row
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has forced us to cover from a far like preventing international journalists from freely accessing the enclave in this room, women gather for a session of palestinian embroidery it's therapy at distraction. but how could anyone forget? it's been through an all they've lost my quietly sits watching her grandmother embroidery prevented mothers in hospital for injured father still in gaza i didn't expect lma to survive. she had a fractured skull, an amputated leg, shrapnel in her bag, and a broken arm like many children my has lost more than her leg. >> the blast that maimed her to her eight month old sister, sham who died in her arms and her six-year-old brother i am sad about my brother and sister, alma choking back, tears can't see anymore
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everyone in this room is missing loved ones. those gone, and those they've had to leave behind, weighed down by grief and guilt. they tell us they deprive themselves of food and sleep. >> that's what i'm al canada. >> i've been sleeping on a couch how can i sleep on a bed when my sons are sleeping in a tent and on sand how can i eat? and my children are hungry? >> so here's three children and husband are in rafah, like others. she desperately wants to get them out and name i know emil lead. she shows us pictures of what used to be home where she was injured when she lost her mother six year-old niece, and two of her sons. all killed in a strike. she says while they were sleeping with my hello hello ahead she gleamed with pride talking about her boys, 16 year-old sheriff was top of his class by mood, had just gotten a scholarship to study medicine
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and broad israel left no dreams. >> i now find myself thinking, i wish i had left my sons take up arms instead of dying like this here says, she raised her voice to never carry weapons to serve their people through their education. >> what a sellable, silly, i think i want to tell them you destroy the people, the mothers, you created more hatred. >> then i let go. >> i used to feel for them with the hostages has a mother who's lost her children. if i could avenge my son's death, i would do it myself memories and photos. >> all she has left them when i go to sleep at night i put my arms like this. >> i imagine i'm hugging mac mood and sharif hugging my mother pain in this place is palpable. >> those who've made it out may have escaped the war but there's no escaping the everlasting scars it leaves behind germanic could actually
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cnn, doha and still no ceasefire or aid into gaza. >> and still no deal to release the israeli hostages. coming up next in the program from my archive, what started as religious zeal quickly turned into strategy. the jewish settler campaign to retake the west bank nearly three-quarters of a century ago. but first a celebration of palestinian culture and identity. as i joined palestinian chef friday catan in his fine dining london restaurant. >> i'll cuisine is rooted in, i've 6,000 years of history. and it's a beautifully diverse, cuz it russia for trying to spy on us. we were spying on them i was hadi friday this is a war but secret, war, secrets and spies, a nuclear game premier sunday, june 2, that ten on cnn from
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>> i'm actually in your restaurants so tiny welsh but what is it abouthomeland? and you're food that you felt needed >> everything, everything. people don't know enough about palestine increasing. people don't know that the long history the long history we are cuisine is rooted five, 6,000 years of history so beautifully diverse cuisine, tiny country with at least three different terawatts desert, the coast of the fig and all of landscape. i think it was really important to be able to share with the world dark, you have just come back from bethlehem on the west bank what did you see? >> feel, endure experience, even though you're not in gaza of the war, i have found in gaza, i have friends and golf ball in the west bank it is scary to say the least people are worried the settler attacks
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on palestinians have increased we land grabs when i was going around the market because in my book there's people that are in the book that are from the butler market i was giving people the book and the sentence i kept hearing from everybody is, are we next? >> and are we next means what is happening in gaza is going to happen to the rest of palestine for me, it's very difficult as a chef to even be cooking and honestly, after 7 october, for the first few weeks, i couldn't even cook there's a whole part of my people that are being forcibly starved it is a man-made starvation that has to stop what's the future? what is the future of all this insanity at a certain moment that humanity has to prevail on this. were being denied our existence. i mean, you've seen and i've seen a lot of your guests i've
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goes and palestine is not even existing stories of ovn. we are arabs who came and 48 to that land. i live in better my great grandfather's house that was built in 18 86 i have title deeds of her rounds in java, there was confiscated and 48. so at a certain moment that those fears when i was back home, i was imagining what was happening in gaza calling my family in gaza when i managed to get through what they're living is i don't have the tools to understand it. i think they survive. >> they've survived they're hiding but it's i don't know what survival is i have friends who had to leave, who managed to pay that horrendous three and get out of gaza some of them were not that lucky what's really scary is none of the official speeches we're hearing from the israelis or
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even acknowledging that we exist so you with your book bethlehem, with your restaurants, with the olive tree here, with the ancient keys that you decorated this restaurant. >> we're mark the nakba and palestinians lost homes you are in. i think putting palestinian culture and the palestinian nation right there for everybody to see an acknowledged is that part of your mission? >> no. thank you for actually even seeing this if i were an italian chef celebrating my history it would be normal as a palestinian very often i feel that i have to be apologizing for being palestine's when i talk about like lands we lost or oranges i long for the oranges of java, which i never got to taste but i grew up with stories of my family picking oranges and exporting their oranges two curb to the uk my mission is to share with people
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the beauty of palestine. my mission is to celebrate peloton. >> is there anything in these dark times that gives you hope for the future in your country what gives me hope? >> is seeing all these voices across the world beyond faith ethnicity political orientation, sexual orientation, raising their voices and a call fluff because at the end, when you call for humanity it's, it's not a football game. you're not taking sides. that is not it's not these radius versus the palestinians. it's a call for humanity and seeing that from the students in the us two people in london, people all over the world our marching out there and calling for an end of this insanity and seeing how diverse they are. because and you know, palestine quite well palestine is a diverse place. also. the old city of jerusalem has more languages spoken. it anywhere else. that is who we are it's important that we see
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that diversity, finally calling for an end to this, there should be an enter this that's the whole buyout fatty catan. >> thank you very much indeed. thank you. cross-sell and chef friday's new book has just been released this week. >> it's called bethlehem, a celebration of palestinian food. now you can see our full length conversation on my weekday show. that'll be next week coming up next as open ai unveils its nearly human chatbot flashback, the time the godfather of ai gave me his predictions on how the world of work is evolving and from my archive, i'll introduce you to god's jewish warriors standing in the way of peace. now so you trick them. you lied about your intentions lloyd i wouldn't call it lying. >> it was more like we got the land in a roundabout way qizan life with dr. sanjay gupta.
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have resorted to violence more than seven months into the latest gaza war, 30 miles away in the occupied west bank settlement expansion and settler violence continues to surge from my archive this week, we look at an excerpt from my special report about god's warriors and their strategy to settle what they believe to be israel's biblical land. >> a lasting and central obstacle to any viable resolution it would take another war in 1970 d3, to transform the small band of settlers into a religious and political mass movement that would change the face of the holy land this time, israel fought an uphill battle after a surprise attack by arab armies on the jewish holy de yom kippur war even though victorious israelis now felt vulnerable second complacency
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had set in after the 1967 victory in israel, religious historian karen armstrong israeli, it's thought they were invincible. this gave them a real shock and they've acutely their isolation and among the religious, it was felt that secular zionism had failed god's jewish warriors claimed to have the solution and all our campaign to settle the west bank there movement took a name, good m101, the block of the faithful one of the most faithful. >> yehuda it seong when he saw this israeli military base being built high on a west bank hill, it's jan and his friends convinced the contractor to hire them then they moved into these dilapidated buildings near the job site using the name of a biblical town in the book of joshua posted a sign or for work camp was it really a
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camp for workers gum that anymore? >> we came here to build a settlement. >> so you trick them. >> you lied about your intentions. >> lloyd i wouldn't call it lying. it was more like we got the land in a round about way round about, and like the earliest schemes, effective oh fromm grew and so did popular support for the settlers remember this is the 1970s, this is it same time that islamic radicalism is rising in the muslim world it's the same time that fundamentalists are returning to politics in the united states religion, which had been written off as a factor in the politics of the modern world, was suddenly returning to the political arena in israel, a right when
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leader named monarch and beggin was is elected prime minister in 1977 on a platform of keeping what the religious believed was the biblical land of israel it was a victory for god's jewish warriors and add, ofra, a new sign went up. >> keep off the grass the settlers were here to stay and since 2007 when i reported from there, the population of ofra has grown to over 3,500, is just one of hundreds of illegal settlements in east jerusalem and the west bank, home to around seven 700,000 settlers in all. and despite worldwide condemnation, benjamin netanyahu's extremist, right-wing coalition today stream is right-wing coalition today continues to advance plans for thousands of new houses in the west bank. and it also calls for jewish
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resettlement of gaza when this war what ends? it's all part of a political agenda aimed at undermining any prospect of peace with the palestinians so we hope that this little bit of context helps to understand where we are today. and when we come back another giant leap for artificial intelligence, how super sophisticated chatbots a blurring the lines between human and machine for moderate to severe crohn's disease, sky rosie is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improved damage to the intestinal lining. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if
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to see what emotions i'm feeling based on how i'm looking sounds like a fun challenge. go ahead and show me that selfie and i'll put my emotional detective hat on. >> okay. so here's me. so what kind of emotions do you think i'm feeling? >> it seems like i'm looking at a picture of a wooden surface. >> oh, you know when that was the thing i sent you before. don't worry. i'm not actually a table. okay. so take a take another look. that makes more sense there we go it looks like you're feeling pretty happy in tearful with a big smile and maybe even a touch of excitement. whatever going on, it seems like you're in a great mood. it is extraordinary and microsoft has spent billions of dollars let's embedding openai technology into its products and rivals like meta and google are also working on their own chatbots and already rolling out new ai features. >> now back in february microsoft ai ceo mustafa
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suleiman predicted that we were on the verge of the most productive decade in human history. >> this is fundamentally a labor replacing technology in the long term. in the medium-term over the next decade, it's going to be labor augmenting. it will make people smarter, more productive, more efficient with their time, more accurate, with their engagements in working in an everyday office or organization? but in the very long term, that same ai is going to learn to do those tasks more effectively than a regular human. and that on its face should drive an enormous amount of value. that is good for everybody. we're going to see the most productive decade in the history of our species were able to do much, much more with less the question is, how does that value get redistributed? and the age old challenge. if we leave that just to the market to its own devices over the next two or three, or four decades, then we will see what we've seen in the last five decades, which is the returns to capital compound far
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more quickly than laborer's wages can grow. in fact, we've actually seen a stagnation of wages over the last four decades. and we've seen massive growth and concentration in capital. and this is a tool that shifts value from labor to capital because an ai is essentially a capital form of labor, it's an intelligent interactive if dynamic interface that gets things done just like a project manager or an assistant gets things done so what happens two jobs and people in the decades after this revolution, that is obviously occupying regulators minds right now, it should be watched the rest of my conversation with mustafa suleiman and among before and you can find all of our shows online and cnn.com slash podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. >> i'm christiane amanpour in london. thank you for watching and i'll see you again next week

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