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affair with mcdougal or a sexual relationship with stormy daniels karen mcdougal was paid by the company that owns the national enquirer for her story as part of a catch and kill scheme. i spoke to her about it back in 2018 karen mcdougal had never told her story on camera in full until this interview, and she's never done an interview like it since if we could just start at the beginning, how did you meet donald trump? >> i met donald when they were filming the celebrity apprentice at the playboy mansion. they were filming there and i was hired as one of the playmates to work at the pool party scene hi, brian actually. >> and you'd worked for playboy for some time? yes. i after becoming play mated the year i was required to work, so many events with playboy and that was one of the events that i thought would be fun. and i worked it and there are a lot of women there and we just saw had a great time and that's where we met. >> how did you actually meet he said hello, like he would to anybody.

>> and then throughout the night, it was kind of obvious that there was an attraction from his part to me. and i kinda just blew it off you can see him looking at you. >> oh, i could see it. and the playboy bunny, she's like the house mom is what we call her. she actually made a comment like, wow, this guy's really into you, and that's when i started paying attention and he was and i smile that it thought it was kind of cute and funny. and then at the end of the night after striking up many conversations we exchange, he actually asked me to write his phone my phone number down for for him to keith. >> did you we wanted to see him again i thought it would be nice to communicate with him and talk to him. >> i actually at that point, didn't consider dating are going out with him, but i did think he's an interesting person here. his brilliant and i like smart minds and i think that i was interested in the communication for sure. >> so when was the next communication i believe we talked right away on the phone and i think we talked for about a week on the phone before his

next visit to la. >> and that was his birthday, which i think is june 12, would he would he call you? call me. i would call him vice versa. >> so you had his phone number? >> i haven't many of us on earth, yes. >> do you have his address number for him or did you have to go through somebody else? >> i have as direct phone number, i have quite a few of the direct phone number as i also had his bodyguard case phone number i had is personal secretaries phone number. >> and what were the conversations like? >> the conversations were like any other conversation you have with a nice person. we got along great. we had respect for each other. we had fun, we were funny together. we had a good time we would talk about anything and everything from what kind of foods you like to house your family. he asked me how my family was two politics to anything like just normal everyday life conversations. >> so tell me about your first date our first date i was told we were going to go to the beverly hills hotel for dinner so he had told me that keith

has bodyguard was going to pick me up at a certain time and he didn't and then we were driving over to the beverly hills hotel and keith drove around to the back and he said, we have to get out here because we don't want to walk through the hotel. >> and at that minute, i'm like thinking to myself, are we good? going to her room because i thought we were having dinner at the beverly hills hotel in the actual restaurant. right? >> well, we did have dinner at the beverly hills hotel, but in his bungalow instead, we had dinner there for a few hours or as we talked for a few hours, we had a great time. we're getting to know each other. we're talking about his birthday. >> and then as the night ended we we were intimate. when you got to the remal hotel and keatts said, we're not gonna go through the lobby. we're gonna go was it to a room at the beverly hills hotel or a sweet or it was a bundle and back it's the one he said he always stayed at. and in fact, every time that i met him, there was the same exact bumble bungalow and he's told that the nice

has been all they had. so i guess that's why he chose that one, but that's that's where we went every time. >> were you concerned when you realize you're not going to go out to dinner, you're actually going to be getting into bungalow. >> i think that first night i was concerned because i didn't i wasn't expecting to go to a hotel room or bungalow, whatever you wanna call it i actually thought we were going to so i was a big concern and i think at that moment is when i realized maybe something else has gone on, you know, i'm a smart girl. i i probably could have figured it out, but i really wasn't thinking. i think i was so nervous to actually meet with him in general that it kinda just didn't even think it wasn't my thought process at that moment. i was just too nervous to actually meet him. so were you tract it to track to him. yeah. he's he's a nice looking man and i like just charisma. i think i love good, great posture. he's got great posture during his nice show. >> there's the sex was consensual it was pretty clear on yes and what happened afterward after that night, you

said it ended on a strange now, so what happened after? you had been intimate well, after we had been instrument, he he tried to pay me and i actually did not to take that. and he actually tried to hand germany. >> he did he did. >> and i said, i mean, i just had those look of just i don't even know how to describe the look on my face must have been so sad because i had never been offered money like that before. number one, but number two, i thought does he think that i'm in this for money or why i'm here tonight? or is this a normal thing? i didn't know, but i looked at him and i said, that's not me. i'm not that kind of girl. and he said, oh, and he said, you're really special. and i was like, thank you. >> i left. i actually got into the car for kids to take me home and i started crying. i was really sad and it really hurt me but i went back, hurt you that he saw you in that way? >> yes. i hurt me that he saw me in that way. light. >> and he obviously assumed

that that's the kind of girl i was maybe because i was a playmate. >> i don't know. but even though you'd had a night conversation and days of conversation, it hurt you that boiled down in the end to that. it's it hurt me. it did hurt me. i was crying in the backseat of the car like i said, i got home to my apartment and i cried for a lot. i felt really terrible about myself, let alone way he felt, but i felt terrible about myself and so i got over it. >> but did you think you would see him again? >> i didn't i didn't think i'd see him again, but then when he called, i was a bad place in life. >> i just came out of a bad relationship where i never felt good enough in my relationship. and not that that's any excuse. it's not. >> but i think i was so down on myself that when he he called and he's so sweet like what everyone sees on tv. >> i didn't see in that man because that man was a very sweet very respectful, very loving, very kind, and caring like that's the man isaac he's you can be very charming

in person. it's very charming, is very sweet as personality to me was. wow, like i loved it. it was great when do when was the next time you saw him you know, i'd have to look back at my i took journal back in the day and not for anything in particular, but i till this day i still write down everything i do during the day. >> that's what i do. so if i looked at that, i could find out, but i think it was a nut same couple of days within a week because he was in town when it came to la, he was usually there between 367 between three, days and i usually saw him. >> you gave us the journal that you kept. >> you would write down on days you saw him, you you wouldn't write how his full name no, i either call them t or de because if anyone found this, i wouldn't want to to expose myself or expose him. so there's a number of days here. it looks like dozens over the course of time with those small little dt and sometimes they're hard to see i purposely kind of

chicken scratch to a lot on there because i know what i'm writing. and like i said, to this day, i still do that with my notes and where i'd where i'm at hoy talk to whatever i did i did write that down, so did i see him quite a few times, quite a bit. absolutely. we spent a lot of time together. >> and did you tell friends about it at the time? >> i did. i told a few friends. i told my sister. i actually told my mother that i knew him and we talked on a regular basis, but i told her that we were just friends and she kinda scolded me a little bit like, i hope it's only friends because, you know, is married and my guess i understand my sister actually heard him on the phone. she was with me one time and she i couldn't hold the phone because i was busy. so she put him on speaker and we were just talking. i mean, i didn't care. it's like she knew anyway. so when you have a relationship with somebody hey, you don't hide it, right? if there's feelings, you don't hide their relationship. >> did he ever asked you to hide it? >> no, he didn't never. so there was never a conversation

of don't in fact, i think once he asked does your sister no. and i said, yeah, she knows he's like all he wasn't afraid to hide it at all and you knew he was married? i did did he bring up his wife? did you bring it up no. >> i i never brought up his wife. he did once and that's the only time i can remember when you said she was an intelligent one? men she needed like, i don't know, four or five languages. but other than that, he never talked about his wife and i never brought her up. i obviously, there's a reason i don't bring it up because i felt guilty about it. so i after never seen her until the one occasion, i never correlated the two really, i just kinda out of sight out of mind when you met it was 2006? >> correct. >> was this shortly after his son had been born yeah. >> unless would he would he talked about his child his son? no. >> the only thing you said about his son was isn't the name baron a nice name? and i

said, yeah, it is. i said, how did you choose that name? and he told me and that's no conversation. >> as you enter a relationship, obviously, in any relationship, you start to think about where this is going to go and how you feel and how did you view. it? how did you view the relationship you know, going through it when i look back where i was back then. i know it's wrong. like i'm really sorry for that. i know it's a wrong thing to do but back in those days, sorry okay back in that de i was left was a different girl, you know, i had fine. i was in the playboy is seen i was just enjoying life as much as i could and, you know, when i got what him actually you know, there was a

there was a real relationship there, there was real they were real feelings between the two of us just myself, not just him there was a real relationship there and i kinda out of sight, out of mind with everything else. and steven sayyed, i did have a lot of guilt but i still continue. >> you believe though that he had real feelings for you? >> of course, he did. i know we did he would say that hey, were you in love with him? i lost yeah. >> and do you think he was in love with you? >> he was. yeah. >> did don't trump ever say to you that he loved you? >> all the time. he always told me he loved me. yeah. of course did he have any nicknames for you it call me baby or had call me beautiful karen what do you always see him just in los angeles. >> know no, i wouldn't i actually went to a golf tournament with him in lake tahoe i went to his golf course

and in california i went to his his golf course home in new jersey and went to his home in new york and trying to think where else i can't recall right now. >> yeah. >> when you say what you would arrange to go some place, how would it be? >> i would pay for the flight. i would book at myself. i would book the hotel room if i wasn't staying with him. usually i stayed with him, but there's been a couple of times where i didn't and then he would reimburse me. so at the flight was i don't know, los estrada number of the flight was $500. he'd give me $500 and say, here's take care of the flight and things like that. so why would he have you book all the travel and the hotel rooms there's no paper trail and did you realize that at the time? yes, i did because he was concerned about it being revealed at some point and there being a paper trail oh, i

was told this there's no people paper trail. i can't say what his reasons were about i i would assume that's the case, yes. yes. >> do you said you went to a golf tournament and tahoe? i did. >> there are other women now who've come forward saying that they also had met with him and had sex with him at that event, were you aware of any other for women? >> no, i was not. i mean, i was with them a lot, so i didn't see anything. but could he have stayed a day longer than me. sure. >> did you think that this relationship was going to last for a long time? did you have you did? >> yeah. i i felt it was getting much stronger you know, there were no gifts ever but a christmas gift on i got him a gift and then he told me the gift. he got me wasn't apartment york, but it's being remodeled right now and i never saw the apartment because i ended up breaking up or ending the relationship, but that was

supposedly my gift. i don't know you went to his actual apartment in trump tower? i did i didn't know i was going there i actually had a hotel room in the city at that time. >> well for this trip, what was it like going at trump tower i didn't know i was at trump tower. >> we went into the back entrance, so i had no idea where we were actually going. the back entrance as you know, probably is more discrete. it's like a little nothing hallway versus like when you walk into the grand right. so we went to the back entrance and at that time i realize where we're going and i said, aren't you afraid to bring me here? he's like they won't say anything. and i'm like, okay, so we went upstairs and we looked around to his office or to his apartment? his apartment. >> he showed me around where do you think of the apartment it's very gold. >> no, actually, it's actually quite pretty the views are amazing. it's a beautiful apartments. they have great taste and he showed you around the apartment. he did did you

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the record straight was that donald trump through who's then longtime aide, hope hicks, denied any relationship with her. >> mcdougal talks about that coming up in this part of our 2018 interview. before the break, she was recounting how during her alleged affair with trump, she says he actually took her for into his apartment at trump tower when his family wasn't home we passed a room and he sets is melania's room if she likes to have her alone time or ticket, wait to read or something like that. and i'm like, oh, okay, that's what i thought maybe maybe they're having issues. >> i didn't ask. it's not my business at that point how did you feel being in his apartment? guilty. very guilty why didn't i couldn't wait to get out of the apartment actually, i think doing something but then when you're doing some are doing something wrong is bad enough and we are doing something wrong. >> and you're in the middle of somebody else's home or better, whatever that just puts

it a little stab in your hearts. and i just couldn't wait to get out of the apartment. i wanted to go back to my hotel room. it made his other life more real. >> i was just going to say it made it more real to me. yes. made it more real did you see bearer in there? no, i never saw barren. >> so where's this picture from? >> that picture is from the apprentice release party that they had at the playboy mansion. so they filmed it like a month beforehand. which is where i met him. and then they had the release party when the apprentice actually aired. that's when that one was. >> this is a picture with ivanka trump, melania trump several of your colleagues and yourself, correct did was that the first time you met millennia? it is. and honestly, if you can tell, i tried to keep my distance i tried to go as far away as i could just because i felt guilty. >> do you think she knew you

know maybe maybe i don't know. >> i was told to me that they were arguing that night and i said why hi and somebody had said probably because of you, but i don't know if that's a factor not so don't quote me on that one there's another picture it's. >> you with with eric trump do you know where that were? those from i believe that's from the trump vodka release party hey, that he had which was within a couple of days of that other party did it feel strange to meet his son, eric it did, but he was such a friendly guy like again, when you're doing something wrong, you try and push everything out of the way and make it as right as you can in your mind. >> i end so i met all his kids except for baron. of course, and i just tried to shake it. but now it gets to me, but then

it didn't did he ever compare you to any of his kids he he's very proud of ivanka as they should be. >> i mean, she's a brilliant woman. she's beautiful, she's you know, that's his daughter and he should be prouder he said i wasn't beautiful like her and your smart girl and there's a lot of comparing, but there was some yeah. i heard a lot about her yeah. did that strike you as odd in any way or i know a lot of, people think it's odd i there has been some comments i've heard in the news he said about her at night. i think those comments arrived, but do i think it's strange that a father would love his daughter? machete brags about her? no, i brag about my dog that much. >> i guess. >> some people seeing this are not going to believe that you had a relationship. hope hicks has said categorically you did not have a relationship no truth to this when you heard

that denial, what did you think well, i think somebody is lying and i can tell you it's not me it's a little hurtful, but at the same time, i have to understand like if he were to have told hips, hope that he didn't do it. i guess i understand because he's trying to protect his family, his image, things like that, but it was definitely a little like, wow, going to lie about that. >> okay. >> when you've heard the stories of stormy daniels, who has come forward, who said that she was at the taco club as well? and others who said that they were there you didn't know about that at the time? >> no, i did not know. >> does it what did you think when you heard that? >> my first thought was how could she have been with him when i was with him. the only time we weren't together on that particular trip was when i

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would lead to a marriage maybe that's something though you liked him enough. that's something you would have liked maybe did he at the time say tell you that you were his only girlfriend? we're did that subject we never really discussed that i knew he talked to ladies but i didn't know there was anything else. >> i didn't know. he was intimate with other ladies but i guess if he's makes sense, if he's doing behind his wife's back, why? i would not do it behind my back. >> but at that time in the frame of mind, you are in then you felt you were the only one? yeah, i did. i thought i was the only one do you have any text messages? >> photographs, videos, anything that would dispute the

hope hicks a statement that this never happened let me just say this. if you're in a loving relationship, du try and collect evidence that's not what you were thinking about? no, not at all not at all. in fact, the only thing that i have really is my journal that i keep. and like i said, i still do it to this day. it wasn't out to get anybody or gosh, get anyone in trouble. but those are my notes. those are from me. know, when you care about somebody, you don't try and set them up in any way, shape, or form that's my opinion. >> this is a hard question to ask, but you said you'd had texts that first time all these times you saw him. this was ongoing sexual relationship? >> absolutely. >> can you estimate how many times you actually saw him again when you're in a relationship, du count, how many? >> times you have sex? no. however, i can tell you we saw each other a minimum five times

a month up to bigger numbers per month. so we of course, of how long over the course of 2006 through i think i ended the relationship april 2007. so we were together ten months before i chose to end it. so we saw each other quite frequently. >> so dozens of times you were together, he dozens of times you were intimate? yes. doesn't many dozen times this is another to question. and again, you don't have to answer it, but it's been raised with other people did he ever use protection? >> no. >> no, i didn't. was that something you thought about or they didn't concern you at the time you know, we talked about it right beforehand he he was starting to and then he's it's like i don't like these things and, you know, we

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again. >> no. >> you didn't speak you told friends is anybody would tell friends about a relationship? >> sure. >> but you didn't at any point during this time 2006, 2007, 2008 tried to reach out or did you do at any point? >> relationship ended? think about telling your story publicly, telling about the relationship. i mean, some people would have considered telling their story that never crossed your mind. yeah when you have when you have feelings in a relationship and you cared about somebody, why would you want to destroy their life anymore than you might have already? >> destroy their life so at what point did i mean, obviously, don't trump announces for president, he's going to run he gets the republican nominee i'm a nation at what point does this start to come back? >> or this this become suddenly? in the forefront for you again i was watching the

republican debate with a friend named johnny is one of my good friends from many years ago he said, you know the story is a big story and i said no way it's not going to happen ago, you know where i stand on this, jonny, i will never say anything. >> we dropped it. and of course, johnny is a democrat but i'm a republican so you're republican? i am. and i voted for donald. yes, i did. there you have it? >> yes. i heard republican so we dropped it. but then later on maybe a week or two later, an x friend or an old friend of mine started on social media talking about my relationship and she was part of that. she she knows everything she had starting started putting it out there, so it was being seen. so i came to johnny one. diana said johnny, look what she's doing. i said do i need to worry about this and he's like absolutely you do. he said you need to get ahead of the story now before everyone else case your story and manipulates it

anyway, they want to manipulate it and make it this very ugly thing. you need to control your story and you need to tell your truth. and i said, yes, you're right. so that's what we decided to do and that's where jonny one day comes comes over and he's like our mutual friend that we have found found this guy named keys also was an attorney for stormy daniels. >> i didn't know that. >> yes. >> and others in this business clearly. >> so what what did you do then? you contacted davidson? >> i didn't johnny johnny and the get your friend contacted davidson within a matter of a couple of days, keith came out and we all had lunch together and he wanted to know details. so read sat down at lunch for a couple hours giving details and keith is like this, the story's worth many, many millions and i'm like okay, so we talked about it and that's

when keith brought it to ami. >> so did you know that keith your attorney, was going to go to ami, which is the parent company which owns national enquirer and other magazines. >> he said, ami i didn't know what am i was to be honest, he said ami we have this company that they'll probably want to hear it your story. so what was the thought of selling the story in your mind to get my truth out there. >> i wasn't looking for money clearly, but when he said it's worth many millions, i'm like you that was something it was hard to pass up sure. >> of course. did keyed have a meeting with me? did you have a meeting with him? dead? >> we had a meeting with ami, you oldham, your story. i tell him the story. they actually didn't think it was very credible, even though off the record they said dillon dylan believes your story, but clearly when they came back, they said it wasn't believed the ball on my dylan bleed

being dylan howard and he's with ami so they had like a 12 hour window to i know i'm probably skipping around. i'm sorry. >> they had a 12 hour window to accept whether they wanted the story or not, and they didn't want the story. >> well, then the republican, he won the republican nomination and ami was interesting then the dragon. once don't trump won the republican nomination. cards, you're saying ami suddenly came back to you with interests well, to keith? yes. to us for the story. yeah. >> what do you think it was that it was after donald trump was the republican nominee that they came back they wanted to squash story you're saying they wanted to protect donald trump i'm assuming so, yeah but they offer which we didn't discuss yet or haven't gosse was, you know, they had offered me a big, contract for work from my lane and fitness and things like that might my life has always been health and fitness

so they said they were going to have you be a column as you would write columns about health and fitness, correct? they said i'd write columns. i would get one call, one article per month okay. magazine, one article per month and star magazine for two years. and then four columns per month on rater online for two years on top of that two magazine cover and the reasoning was like, you've been a successful model fitness, et cetera. we want to help you continue and we actually want to re-brand you. and you you're older now, so we want to jump-start into a new career for you and really gets you out there to work. and i'm like this is perfect. like who does what model wouldn't want that especially as an older your model, you're like, oh, this is great, right yeah. but then the side deal was oh, we're squash the story. okay. it's a win-win for me. like i get the work my story doesn't have to come out. >> did you know that they were buying the life rights to your story i didn't i knew i could

never talk about him. sure. >> so that was for you this wasn't a non-disclosure agreement to you. this was a great business opportunity. you're going to get paid you're going to be able to have right columns. you're going to launch a new aspect of your career. you're going to get the cover of the magazines and on top of it you're going to sell them your story, but they're not going to publish it. and therefore, correct, there's not gonna be any ramifications craft the story, getting at absolutely. >> i mean, who wouldn't want to get to work. and then that work could leave to other work or to other work who work can lead. of course, i was excited. >> so in an essence, you were happy to have the story killed yeah, of course, like i said, i never wanted to come forward. and you were going to get $150,000 for it for having killed and launching potentially a new career well, more importantly, i looked at

it as i was doing work. the columns, the covers, and i'm getting paid for that. oh, and my life story is like never has to be shared. it was more about the way it was presented. it was more about detecting me. it was more about we don't want to turn us your image. we want to keep your brand wholesome and hole. so unlike that's awesome, that's great. that's the way i perceive this. contract. it was a whitlam like i said, have you ever heard the term at that point, catch and kill you? >> i had not. >> do you know what catching killers now? i do now yeah. >> now, what's your understanding of a catch-and-kill is catches from what i'm learning, a catch and kill is somebody for legacy for yourself, for example, taking a story about, somebody you like or care about over friendship about. and they squash a story. so it doesn't hurt you so get them. >> did you know that that's what who's going that's the allegation of what was going on here. did you did you realize that at the time i knew the story wasn't gonna be printed

yeah. why do you think they swatch to the story? >> back then or now yeah. >> i'm they they they didn't want to hurt him you think is because of a personal relationship? with the guy who runs ami is friends with donald trump do you think i mean, you wouldn't know this, but do you think donald trump would have been aware? >> of of this of this deal that they were doing him, that they were allegedly doing him this favor i wouldn't know but based on what i'm learning, as we're all learning together as we've read. >> and one of the big complaints with why i think my contract is legal is because his attorney was talking to my attorney, michael. >> you're saying donald trump's personal attorney, michael corrects. was talking with him without me even

knowing without my knowledge, i would assume that maybe he knew i know his attorney did. >> i can't say that he knew, but his attorney. >> how do you know that michael cohen and your attorney, keith davidson, were in communication? >> i didn't know. i'm just learning this as your loneliness. it's been reported and my my they know and to you, the idea that michael cohen would be in communication with your attorney at the time? >> theoretically, there would be no reason for michael cohen to be having communication with your attorney because this was a deal between keith davidson, you and write why was he involved in my deal? and why was on i told him that he was involved in my deal. that's not fair and it's quite frankly illegal the how quickly was the ama? >> ami's deal done once we agreed upon the jobs, the financial payment, and things like that it was done very quickly in a matter of a day or two basically, i was going out

of town and i said, i'll get back to in a week when i get back into town, they said the deal really needs to be done now i'm like, okay so i think it was done within that night or the next day how do you remember what day this was or what when this was in the presidential race it was an august i sign the deal august 6 oh it was probably august 5 or fourth that we finalize and then signed on the six, but i can't tell you. >> i don't remember whether rice was so this is in the last month or two, or the presidential race do you think the presidential race had anything to do with this deal getting done? when i'm looking back at it now, possibly, yeah. >> if donald trump hadn't been running for president, do you believe this deal would have been made with ami knowing what you know now, probably not no, probably not. >> you're pretty you're convinced now this was an effort to do favor for donald

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visit home serve.com i hanako montgomery in tokyo. >> and this is cnn at the time of my interview with karen mcdougal in 2018, she'd filed a lawsuit against ami, the parent company and the national enquirer to release her from that contract, which brought her silence, but also promised her a number of opportunities with their publications. >> she said david pecker, an ami hadn't held up their end of the bargain weeks after this interview, she settled that suit and was released from her contract some people hearing that are gonna say, look, you want this is your inner for the money they're going to say, okay, obviously, we are not paying you for this interview. we don't pay for interviews, but you may go from here and write a book or make a movie, or whatever it may be, two that you say what bottom line is this? i've offered to give back the one 50 even though i

only got 55% of that, i've offered to give back the one 50 just to have my my story rights back. the story is out there now i'm not telling the nitty-gritty details as you can see, i'm very selective in what i'm what i'm saying about our relationship i'm not out to make money and i'm out to get my rights back to prove a contract was illegal that i was taken advantage of and then go back from my life period did it anger you? >> i mean, it's part of this big because people, the white house have said you're lying, you're not telling the truth i don't know when likes to be called a liar, but no, it's more about the illegal portion of the contract and then not fulfilling what they promised me. >> they promised me this work to date there are only ten articles in okay? magazine, ten articles and star magazine and maybe seven on redder online, right? are line i'm so sick of four per month. i mean, the two

years is up in august. i've gotten really nothing out of this so you think that whole talk of helping you relaunch kind of knew a whole new phase they didn't want to help me. >> i thought they wanted to keep my reputation claiming from what so they wanted to re-brand me. they wanted to i'm an older model now. they wanted to make something a new star. they promised me all these wonderful, beautiful things. even when i met with david pecker and dylan and keith in new york, after this is back last august they often may many more opportunities, but i haven't seen anything yet. not that that's not part of the contract, but my point is, they keep dangling the carrot i'm not playing that game anymore are you aware of or have you spoken to any women with similar stories who have come forward no, i haven't spoken anyway i know other i've heard other stories from other people, but it's hearsay.

it's not like the girl directly to me, but no, i can't comment on that. >> would you have come forward public? hopefully if stormy daniels hadn't come forward do you think that made an impact on you i definitely think it made a little bit of an impact on me it gives you two more. >> it takes a little bit of the fairway however, i probably would have just because as i'm learning about this contract and the people involved in the way i was treated dad and all the behind the scenes, things that i wasn't aware about. and all the work i'm not getting which a contracted for yeah, i probably would have come forward if you didn't get what you were told in a contract workwise wouldn't you say something chorus you have any do you have any regrets about the relationship? >> did you say you had with him back then? yeah. >> the only regret i have about the relationship that i had with donald was the fact that he was married. if you weren't married i wouldn't have any regrets because he treated me very kind he was very respectful as i told you, it

was a good relationship while it happens. now, had i known at the time, there were supposedly all these there are women. now, i went a bit in the relationship, but i didn't know that at the time. so no, no regrets. accept the fact that he was married. >> if melania trump is watching this, what would you who won her to know it's a tough one more say to her. >> yeah, what can you say? hey accept. i'm sorry i'm sorry. >> i wouldn't want it done to me i'm sorry that does it for this special edition of ac30 60, the karen mcdougal, the interview the news continues on cnn. have a good night i'd front next, justice samuel alito throwing his wife under the bus is calls growth for him

to cuz himself from any cases related to trump, those crucial opinions are expected any day and the nation's top constitutional expert, laurence tribe, is out front plus m tg versus aoc. >> marjorie taylor greene. now doubling down after a late night house brawl that played out on camera top democrat and that hearing room is my guest and cnn's exclusive video of sean diddy combs physically assaulting his former girlfriend, a reporter who has long covered the mobile is out front. is this just the tip of the iceberg? >> let's go out front and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. my wife did it. that is the excused from supreme court justice samuel alito, as voices are growing louder for him to recuse himself from two crucial cases tied to trump cases that the nine justices are deciding right now, we could find out and some of these n0 day, they're related to trump's efforts to overturn the election. and that is why this image is at issue image obtained by the new york times was taken justay