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do that as an 18 leinz to federal judge about that case in 2018. does the prosecution have an airtight case? i'll let my nesc next guests debate that. >> also had did these universities city of michigan protesters crossed the line, masked anti-israel activist putting fake corpses and bloodied stuffed animals outside the homes of several regions at the university city, one region who woke up to a list of demands on his door, will join me this hour plus the latest in our series, homeless in america, city and park service employees closing homeless encampments in washington, dc. today, i went out to see their efforts. are they fixing a problem when we're just chasing it a few blocks away. but let's start with donald trump's hush money cover up trial in manhattan where the defense went after michael cohen and his past lives under oath, even suggesting that some of his testimony in this current trial has been dishonest. cohen's cross-examination will continue on monday. we're told cnn's paula reads outside the courthouse and paula, the defense challenge cohen's memory that he testified about
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just earlier this week about this october 24, 2016 phone call. cohen said that that call was with trump about the hush money reimbursement. but tell us about how the defense tried to undermine that today. >> the first thing they did is they brought up exactly what he said under direct examination by prosecutors when he was asked, why did you need to speak with trump at that point in the evening of october 24, cohen testified to discuss the stormy daniels matter and the resolution of it and did you have an understanding about whether during that conversation you resolve that you were moving forward to fund the deal yes. cohen said and the reason this was significant evidence for prosecutors is that this suggests that trump was aware of this conspiracy to conceal this hush money payment to stormy daniels in the days leading up to the election, there's also new evidence. this is not something that we'd ever heard previously, but today, todd blanche came with receipts and he pointed to
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a law that timeline of events from that day where that evening michael cohen texted keith schiller. so trump's body man about prank phone calls halls that he had been getting from a teenager. schiller then tells cohen to call him. cohen then call schiller and they have a 92nd conversation. the defense attorneys, of course, asked okay. why are we supposed to believe that you called him after that exchange when you have a 14-year-old, a prankster who is begging you not to sick the secret service on them. we see these receipts, we see this evidence. why would we think that that 92nd call was about stormy daniels? cohen responded saying that part of the call was schiller was about the 14-year-old, but i know that keith was keith was with trump at the time and there was potentially more than this now, he says that was a lie. you did not talk to president trump. you talk to keith schiller. you can admit it. cohen replied, no, sir. i don't know that is accurate. and at one point in this exchange, cohen kind of
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fell back to saying, look, i don't recall but this was a significant blow to michael cohen's credibility about this specific phone call because again, they came with records and michael cohen has never testified hi to this before. so in terms of sowing seeds of doubt about this significant piece of evidence, it appears that todd blanche was incredibly significant. so jake, over the next three-day weekend and the prosecutors have from this case, are you combat? they're trying to brainstorm ways to clean this up. >> all paula reid, thanks so much. let's bring in attorney george conway, who was inside the courtroom what room today, as well as in studio here with me, former trump attorney tim parlatore, george. you were in court do you agree with paul reads assessment and the assessment? smith made by other journalists, other people in the room, that todd blanche really took a hammer to michael cohen's credibility, especially on that october 24, 2016 phone call, assertion, what was your take i thought it was a mixed bag. >> i don't i don't think he was
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particularly effective. all day overall. i thought i thought that there were some some good points that were scored here and there and particularly about the, you know, about his history of lying and mystery of misstatements. but it was scattered was to he took too long. the question he took too long to get to each point it should have been done much more quickly. and as a result, it was it just felt meandering and ineffectual and the thing that also surprised me was that how a little of the cross-examinati on really addressed the case? i mean pollock refers to that one circumstance just before lunch about that october 24 phone call the when to schiller's phone. and yes, that was good cross, i would have been if i were the cross-examined her, i would have been good thing to cross-examine michael cohen on, but i didn't think it was some particularly effectively and i thought, okay, wow, then they
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must have some war after lunch. where are they going to pick up? part some of the other calls because there's just a mountain of evidence that really shows a president trump involvement and mike and weisselberg's involvement in and a lots of phone calls. and that was in the afternoon. there was like the entropy. it went back to meandering even more week meandering than in the mornings saif about how many times has maggie haberman of the new york times written about you? and it was really hard to follow. and i don't know that the thing i would be worried about it if i were the defense is that that good point just before lunch was lost in all the meandering and ineffective examination that occurred the rest of the day. now, maybe they've got something they're saving for monday. and for their sake, i think they'd better hoped so, but by enlarge, i don't, you know for all looking at the effectiveness of the direct examination from 2015 on past
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the election and all the corroborated documentation in the corroborating phone records just nitpicking at this one call. i just don't think it's going to be enough and i have a feeling that on redirect it's gonna get all cleaned up by the prosecution. i think i know how they can do that. >> yeah. but we'll see yeah. so tim, there is going to be redirect. the prosecution has said so let's set it's going to be less than an hour how to clean it up? well, what would you recommend that they do to clean it up for michael cohen yeah. >> i kind of disagree with what george said there because i think that was a significant point yet. sure. there was a lot of meandering there, but how do you clean it up? you have to find some way to explain the fact that he lied on direct yeah. at this and to really plug that up because the prosecution's biggest problem here is they have a lot of corroboration for the things that are not in dispute. they have a lot of corroboration for the things that are not elements of the crime. but the pieces that actually put donald
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trump into the the alleged crime, those elements, those are the things that there is no cooperation for. you have to rely upon michael cohen's word. you have to lie upon his word of what they said in a conversation that's not transcribed. >> and when you can show this one called the eu are very specific about that was a lie you may not have those perfect text messages to show that the other calls we're allies. >> and so if all you're relying upon is there is a phone records showing there was a call and then there's michael cohen saying what happened there. that's not something you can rely upon and a lot of what cross is is you're building points for the summation. yeah. so i don't know how you really rehabilitate that jordan's, obviously, during the testimony, i want to just i think i think that mr. palpatory is grossly over stating that the that the prosecution showed that michael cohen lied at that instance. >> i mean, it shows that he didn't initially recall that part of the call may have he
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had to do with this 14-year-old person who is making phone calls about harassing phone calls, but it's not inconsistent since with the proposition that both he might have talked a schiller about that very briefly and then told, hey, boss, get put the boss on, hey, boss the we fix the problem. and there's no that's we'll see what they say on redirect, but i mean, i didn't get the overall feeling that that michael was flomax than that he had been shown to allied. may have he may have been shown to have forgotten a particular aspect of something that happened that de, in may may or may not have been a part of that phone call. but to say that it was this devastating lie that were shown they didn't get there and they needed to and i was in court room and i saw yeah. yeah. go ahead. this may be the difference in georgia as a civil lawyer may is a criminal lawyer because ultimately this is about reasonable doubt.
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>> and by showing this, this is something raised reasonable that in a moment that you start saying, well, it's possible that it could have been the way hey, that he said it. >> it's possible that he possible that's reasonable doubt and so i appreciate i appreciate georgia's a picture of that is the answer that is that's just one small piece of the puzzle and police, so this story, it's not, it's not the whole thing. and you have to let reasonable doubt in terms of the whole story and whether there is a plausible set of facts that is consistent with the entirety of this massive record of that somebody could say, you know, i don't i think it's possible that trump didn't now, what the hell is going on and i think you have to be half brain dead to think that maybe they may be get one, they may get one or two jurors to say that, but who's who knows? >> tim? i think an unbiased you're is going to take a look at this and they're going to take the evidence from both sides and make a reasonable
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decision. thank and you think they will find reasonable doubt based on what i think i think that reasonable doubt has been. so not just from this single point. and no george sudden like that, but not just the single-point, but there's a lot of different things here. plus there's the defense case to put on. yeah. they put on bob gastel. that's going to be a lot of reasonable doubt. >> george, what do you make it at the idea that the defense might put on? on bob costello, who would as if he follows what he did in an congress yesterday. we'll take a hammer to a whole bunch of assertions. michael cohen may i mean, that's that's that could be very helpful for defense. they they need something they need to put on some kind of case to contradict these critical, these, these, these critical but small pieces connecting the various doc memory. the documentary trail. and we'll see if they come up with somebody they may come up with somebody, but they need something because they didn't quite du it. they didn't come
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they didn't do nef or nearly enough to my mind with the cross today, which was largely ineffectual. i wouldn't say that they didn't lay a glove on on on michael. they brushed him a little and maybe he slapped him once. but i just i just don't see that that's enough. >> george conway, a reasonable doubt on this record george conway content parlatore. >> thanks so much. both of you for being here. appreciated. another big story this our president biden asserting executive privilege over the release of audio recordings of his interview with the special counsel investigating his classified documents, case. why well, we'll check the transcript to see what he may want. only kept two paper to a transcript plus this just in and texas governor greg abbott has issued a pardon lives matter rally in 2020. the details of that coming up every day, moore people are deciding. it's time for a fresh approach
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hur's report, as you may recall, concluded that no charges should be brought. again since the president saying that he would likely suggesting that he would likely come across well to a jury because he was a quote well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory or that's how the jury would take him. there is a written transcript of the two interviews which happened the day after hamas attacked israel on october 7. and there are parts of the transcript that read as though the president is strong struggling to remember key dates and years for example, on page 83, president biden and what's happened in the meantime is that as and precedent and trump gets elected in november of 2017 on identified male speaker says 2016. president biden 16 2016. all right. so why do i have 2017 here, mr. cisco? that's the white house council. that's when he left office. january 2017. president biden? yeah. okay. >> but that's trump gets sworn in in january. mr. cisco, the white house counsel, right today, attorney general merrick garland defended the move to not release the audio to house republicans we have gone to
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extraordinary lengths to ensure that committee's get responses to their lives gentlemen, requests but this is not one to the contrary, this is one that would harm our ability in the future too successfully pursue center sort of investigations for full disclosure purposes. >> we should note cnn is also trying to get that audio as well for journalistic purposes, let's bring in our panel and i want to start with former congressman. ken buck. where is he? he's over here so the house judiciary committee voted thursday to advance contempt proceedings against god harlan if you were in congress, how would you vote? i would not vote for it. i think as a prosecuted for 25 years, jake, the key issue for me is what is the evidentiary value here? they have the transcript, they know what was said. and then how can this be used in a way that would chill future witnesses from wanting to give testimony president, biden wasn't required to give
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testimony. he was the target of investigation. he could assert the fifth and walk away. he gave that testimony. and now that tape will be used in campaign commercials in a way that i think will chill future, especially politicians from cooperating the white house council says pretty directly that they think the white house things that were house republicans only want to use this to chop it up and misuse it, mislead people absolutely. >> i mean, if you don't mind congress and i'll quote you, he called it a political stunt what we've seen in congress, li, li is a republicans are great at political sense, less so legislating. but here's what really gets me, is the hypocrisy of the republic looking party right now, i remember during the molar investigation, chairman jordan said that the executive privilege should be a serious consideration here bar they allowed to withhold documents redacted the report. he put a spin on it before was released very different than what we're seeing here with ag garlin. he's gone above and beyond as he said, to give the and maybe what they want. but it seems to
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not be enough. that's really the challenge here with the republican party. it's the stunting rather than the legislating which is leading to a lot of republicans like the congressman, to leave the body. >> what do you think if the tables were turned? i can guarantee you that democrats would be demanding the audio tape if it was up an interview with president trump and they would be losing their mind signs if the, if the, if he claimed executive privilege and not released it i don't see how you can claim executive privilege released the written transcript, but not the audio. i mean, it's a difference between radio and television and print. a print outlet emotion context, verbal interaction does change things from just the written word. >> i thought, i thought raskin made a great point, which is what more could you uncover by the audio tape, then the transcripts themselves, are you going to somehow uncover some high crime and misdemeanor based on the audio versus the transcript. >> that's why this just reeks of a political stunts. >> there are moments in the transcript where the special counsel appeared to praise the president's memory, we should note on page 47 he said, understood, that was very
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helpful. we have some photographs maybe to show you, but you have you appear to have a photographic understanding and recall of the house. i mean, why not why not release it? and use some of the audio to bolster or defense of the president's well, i mean, because i think as chairman jordan said, that executive privilege should be taken very seriously and the president has the prerogative to assert it. and he did last night, senator romney, this is i'm changing subjects now last night that senator, i don't think we're going to reach agreement a vocal critic of trump and one of the few republican senators who voted to impeach trump over january 6, said that biden should pardon trump or should have pardoned trump. >> take a listen had i been president biden, when the justice department brought on indictments, i would have immediately pardoned him at a pardoned president trump. >> why? well, because it makes me president biden, the big guy and the person i pardoned a little guy. >> what do you think? >> i think that president trump is entitled to a trial? he should get his trial if he is found not guilty at trial, he
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doesn't need a pardon he gets his story out that way. if he's pardoned he is in effect, doesn't have a voice and doesn't have that opportunity. so i disagree with senator romney on that issue. >> what do you think? >> i think would be very difficult for president biden to do it? i think it might win him some support in and look magnanimous. and the big guy in the middle. but i think the radical woke left would lose their minds if he did it. and he is the one that he needs them right now out knocking on doors and voting november i with all due respect to the senate, or he is one of the only think good guys left in the body. he voted for conviction. i rang in the first impeachment war room and our closing argument in that case was, if we don't hold donald trump accountable today, it's only going to get worse and it did a national scheme to try to cheat the 2020 election. he and he initiated in an insurrection on january 6. so it only got worse and the reality is, is if we let him off the hook, it
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sends a signal to the next president, but it also weakens the constitution and weakens the office of the presidency. >> at least nine house republicans traveled to new york to stand alongside donald trump in court today congressman bob good from virginia, who had to stand next to his primary challenger, a guy named john maguire what is your reaction? you just giggled a little bit about what is your, what is your reaction when you see this parade of house republicans? and senate republicans and others coming to north dakota, governor, et cetera, coming to stand with donald trump and then go outside the courtroom and attack the proceedings. >> i think it's just sad de, in politics, frankly, i think that president trump has his ability to defend themselves he obviously has a gag order, right? well well, in court, he has to defend himself outside court. he doesn't have an ability to continue to stir up the emotions of folks, but i think that just having this line of politicians go up, many of whom are seeking the vice presidency it does not, it does not engender a lot of faith in
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republicans to think that politics is getting to a new height. >> bryan lanza was here earlier, former member of the trump pants campaign in 2016. he says he hears from the trump camp payne folks for 2024 that when these officials come into the courtroom, members of the jury notice, they sit up, they they take note of this. >> i mean, that's the whole point is to some degree intimidate the jury. but i think to the congressman's point, i mean, this is really signifies the how how the republican party is just fallen the depths to which they fall in that their pros prostrating themselves outside of the courtroom for man who said he would get rid of the constitution, that he would be a dictator on day one and add $8 trillion to the actual dead. so it signifies really how far off now that the republican party, in my opinion is going through this identity crises. >> yeah, i think basically this is a political witch-hunt of a trial and he has turning it to his advantage. so every time they try to lock him down,
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every time they tried to silence him, he will find a way whether it's reading headlines. so he's not actually violating the spirit of the gag order or getting other members out there the show their support for him. he's he's doing whatever he can to win under very challenging circumstance. >> but at what cost of the country. >> thank you. i don't think we're going to settle that one either. thank you so much. appreciated. the pardon issued in taxes today in a controversial deadly shooting at a black lives matter rally and 2020 plus a university of michigan official, one of several targeted by protests at his home in the middle of the night, stay with us for over 25 years. >> loved sack has been rewriting the rules of comfort it's okay to change your style get messy. >> yet burst with love sac. >> you make the rules doctors recommend coli stool softener, four gentle dependable relief from constipation. >> it's so gentle. doctors even recommended during pregnancy and after surgery,
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pressure and improve heart-healthy rush to walmart and find total bce. >> i'm caitlin polantz at the federal court in washington. >> and this is cnn is for you and are law and justice lead this afternoon, convicted murderer and former us army sergeant daniel perry is now out of prison just moments ago, texas governor greg abbott granted perry a full pardon perry had shot and killed us air force veteran garrett foster, who was protesting at a black lives matter rally in 2020. cnn's ed lavandera is a
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live frehse dallas ed abbott's action, governor abbott's action came after the tech because parole board recommended a full pardon? yes right? >> that's the way it has to work here in texas, though, based on that recommendation from the texas board of pardons roles, which you voted unanimously today to grant daniel perio full pardon and then moments later, governor greg abbott here in texas issuing that full pardon paris this case has become a cause of celeb among in right-wing media over the last few years. but let me give you back some of the details of this case back in 2020 prosecutors said that daniel perry intentionally drove into a crowd of black lives matters, protests protesters in downtown austin, and that's what led to the altercation that led to the shooting death of garrett foster attorneys for daniel perez say that perry acted in self-defense the gerrit foster was legally carrying an assault style rifle. perry says that
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foster pointed it in him and that's when he fired at him, killing him there in the streets back in 2020, a jury in austin last year convicted perry of murder and sentenced him to 25 years. just in prison. part of the trial also included very troubling text messages that perry had sent people close to him at one point saying, as the protests were football unfolding on the streets, he might kill a few people on my way to work that they're writing outside of his apartment and he compared black lives matters, protestors to quote, a zoo full of monkeys. now the reaction to this, pardon, has been intense and coming in quick ugly here in the last hour or so, jake, the family and the mother of the an attorney for the mother of garia foster says, she is shocked and believes that this pardon is politically motivated. whitney mitchell, who is the girlfriend of garia foster, the victim in this case says that she believes that only certain led the government believes only certain lives matter. that she went on to say
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that the governor has declared that citizens can be killed with impunity, as long as they hold political views that are different from those in power. and the travis county district attorney, jose garza's criticizing the texas this is board of pardon and pearls and the governor saying that they have put politics over justice and have made a mockery of our legal system. and that the board and the governor should be ashamed since governor greg abbott steadfast in his pardon saying that texas has one of the strongest stand your ground laws in the country and that that cannot be nullified by a jury and a progressive district attorney. there in austin. we've reached out to daniel perez, attorney, who tells us that he is so spoken with perry that he is thrilled and elated and just moments ago, he was actually jake released from prison already. jake. >> alright, add lemon darin, dallas, texas for us. thanks so much. international lead in the middle of the night, wednesday, around 30 masked student protesters at the university of michigan put fake corpse
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wrapped in bloody sheets in front of the private home of a university official. the anti-israel activists appeared to target at least five members of the university's board of regents who are essentially the institution's board of directors in what the university is calling a quote, significant and dangerous escalation, unquote before the students ran from police, they marched, chanted, and taped lists of demands on the doors of these regions according to an official university the statement, one of those regions targeted as jordan akre who joins us now, mr. acker, thanks for joining us. so we're showing ring camera footage from your house when you say your kids were inside sleeping, it shows a masked individual walking straight up to your door, taping a list to it. when did you figure out what was going on? on outside your house? so what went through your mind when you realized it well, first thank you for having me on jake. >> i learned about 6:00 a.m. that this had happened when several of my other colleagues
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were woken up to people engaging in some protest activities has been some masks, people coming by themselves. and i've learned from that about 4:40 a.m. someone had come to my home alone completely covering their face, took some pictures play some things on my door of my home as my children were inside sleeping, several student groups say that they were behind this coordinated effort. they're wearing masks asks in the videos is a university has the university been able to figure out who did this is? our their disciplinary procedures were any laws broken? >> well, jake, i can't speak obviously to any specific internal ongoing investigations, but i can tell you that some of the students felt emboldened enough to go on local tv in detroit and admit they had engaged in this behavior last night. it, is an unacceptable an unbelievable violation of the privacy of
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elected officials and michigan, me and my colleagues are elected statewide. and just like our colleagues like jocelyn benson and dana nessel and gretchen whitmer were violated. their homes in 2020. this is the same sort of illiberal activity that is frankly against all of what we believe both at the university and in our state, we elect people to make decisions and then we vote out people when we disagree, we do not come to people's homes and intimidated them. that is not appropriate behavior from our students is not appropriate from anyone in our community. the period did i don't know how old your kids are. did they see this? what was the reaction when they saw if they saw it thankfully, my kids still don't know that this happened. >> and we're very, very lucky. my kids are very young. but as someone who ran for elected office at 34, who had kids around those age, i teach my children the importance of political engagement of walking
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doors, of doing those sorts of things. because i think it's important to our community what is not important to our community, what is never acceptable is showing up at someone's home in the middle of the night with their face mask that is behavior that cannot be condoned by either the right or the left in this country. so tell me what you would say. >> two if any students who participated in this if any of them were there and there are watching and they say this was peaceful we didn't hurt anybody we didn't do any death threats or anything like that when we are outraged by what's going on in gaza, and we are trying to protest i'm not exactly sure. i guess the unit they want the university to divest isis, i suppose for many holdings, they may have, among other things. >> yeah. >> yeah. they asked things like defunding the university, police as part of their demands are ultimately kicked. this is not about peaceful protests. there was nothing peaceful about showing up at someone's
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private home in the middle of the night with a mask on is extremely dangerous, both to the homeowner, to my family, and to the students who do something like this. this is not the same as showing up 30 people. this is one person who did so in the middle of the night. it is not peaceful protest. and let me remind you that this university has taken a very hands-off approach in some freedom of speech to occur on our campus. i don't like some of the language the globalizing, the intifada is personally offensive to me. but there's a certain level where you have to understand these are kids and sometimes they do things and they see things that might be offensive. the flip side of that is, is that once you show up to my house that is no longer a peaceful protest you're looking to aid can be part of our political system in this country, jordan akre are one of the regents of the university of michigan. >> thanks so much for your time today. i appreciate it.
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wind this is cnn the world's news and our worldly today chinese, china's leader, xi jinping today rolled out the red carpet for his close friend and fellow autocrat vladimir putin. a symbolic show of their deepening partnership as putin officially begins his fifth term. as russia's president. and a sweeping statement, the two despot say they aligned on energy and trade and security and geopolitics with specific references to ukraine, taiwan in the middle east russia's economy has become increasingly reliant on china's since putin's illegal invasion of ukraine in 2022. and on the subject of ukraine, russia does not have the number of troops it needs for a quote, strategic breakthrough in ukraine's kharkiv region according to a senior nato commander today still russia's recent surprise cross-border assault is causing
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immense anxiety on the ground as ukrainian accuses, russia of blocking civilians from evacuating towns near kharkiv, where there is intense ongoing fighting. cnn's nick paton walsh, she's in kharkiv city for us. nic, you work in one of those towns just northeast of kharkiv today? tell us what you saw yeah, just hours ago, jquery involved chance, which has been bearing the brunt of russia's extraordinary new ferocious assault. >> it's a border town and it's where so much russian force has been applied. we saw inside there ourselves tanks, ukrainian tanks, we thought blown to pieces us supplied humvee is flipped over literally every street at seemed to be a flame. we travel with ukrainian police unit trying to evacuated one of 35 groups of families. they said one of the get out that morning, they took three people out with them, including an 85 year old lady, maria, hard of hearing, could barely hear the constant explosions around her but still wanted to get out. let me tell you, behind us
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here, because all of this violence north and vovchansk is really about trying to exert influence on kharkiv here, ukraine's second-largest city and the last dao as we've been hearing pretty constant explosions behind us. i say constant probably about probably single figures that at this point, but reports of drones missiles that we've been hearing, we've seen anti-aircraft fire. we can't go into too much detail, but still another sign of the intense pressure russia is trying to put upon kharkiv and y hey, there are aiming at border towns like above chance. now let's civilians being pulled out of there. it extraordinary numbers and it's clear to say intense fighting inside the city from what we were hearing, the russians appear to have gotten to the north of it. they're still separated from ukrainian forces by a river. but the distance between them is getting smaller and smaller and the small arms by we heard ourselves suggesting that there are street to street clashes potentially between both sides, but elsewhere, russia seeing
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other success in this northern area. remember jake, this is not another frontline has been contested for years. suddenly seeing a change. this is a completely new offensive by russia shift occurring to the north of kharkiv here, the second biggest city of ukrainian pushing pretty fast, frankly, taking the most territory that we've seen since the initial days of the invasion. so quite startling progress and that's reflected and the volatility of tonight here in the city, jake and you were also with ukrainian police as russian drones flew right overhead yeah. >> look, i mean, this is a new part of the war disposable drones single use that fly into targets and we've heard about that. we've seen them used by ukrainian soldiers on russia we've seen the impact on ukrainians to both sides using this extraordinary cheap and vicious technology. but this is the first time we were on the receiving end and heading back into vovchansk we stopped under a tree line to ask the police where they were headed to next
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heard the buzzing noise of drones and above us for quite horrifying, it's fair to say three, four minutes three drones sat one large one, it seems spotting two smaller ones, the ones that are going to drop their payload, we may not have been spotted, we may not have been seen worthy of being a target, but noise hanging above you for minutes utterly nerve-shredding. you simply don't know what's about to happen next. we got out of there fast and that appears to have been the best move then, but that's the kind of threat that ukrainians and indeed russians to face every single hour in extraordinary departure on the battlefield. one that's very precise, very vicious and how to counteract frankly, once you're spotted, you either have to run an exposure yourself where you have to hope that you're not considered worth dropping a rare payload upon quite horrifying to experience that, and that's something ukrainians are seeing every day jake cnn's nick paton walsh on the ground for us in ukraine. thank you so much.
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progress the trump hush money trial gavel to gavel coverage. >> the way only cnn can bring it to you, legal insight, expert analysis, and real-time updates live from the courtroom follow the facts, follow the testimony, follows cnn it's an issue. >> now, basically synonymous with american cities, the rise of homelessness here in washington dc the numbers are staggering. dc's annual, the point in time count found homelessness went up 14%, just last year today, a city officials tried to clear out several encampments and they say they will clear more out in the coming weeks, hundreds of people who are homeless will be moved from there for encampments. but does that solve the homelessness problem in any real way as part of our homeless in america series, i visited one of those camps with
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workers on the front lines of the crisis who think that what dc and the park service did today is actually in some ways going to make the problem worse. the average american is only one paycheck away from being right here. >> just blocks from washington dc's most pitcher, esq., landmarks, a community of roughly 70 people as being torn down the residence scattered. it's on both federal and city land and now the city and the national park service are both saying these people have to leave our outreach team has been working diligently for months, helping people prepare, thinking about where you want to go, walking them through the shelter options. but there's nothing thing major all the shelters are mostly full. we're doing everything we can to try to get people a solution. but for most people, there's nothing definite that's being offered staffers from the non-profit miriam's kitchen have been going tent to tent, trying to help. this is one of seven such encampments around
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washington, dc that will be cleared in the next few weeks. >> the city says the closures protect residents from quote, dangerous circumstances such as fires traffic collisions assaults, and rats. the federal government says homelessness shot up 12% last year with more than 653,100 americans currently without a place to live. this is the highest and sharpest increase in the largest number since they began keeping records. and experts say this cuts across demographics and populations it includes veterans and families with children. the city of dc says it will keep trying to help people connect with support services, including housing but advocates say clearing these camps is not a solution. it's a setback. >> i'm moving the problem from here to there, but this problem is not solved, right? and that's the part of the history of this in chem and there's people who are living here who used to be at macpherson square here he used to be the other and candidates that are being cleared, advocate wesley thomas was homeless himself for decades, living on the streets near the white house until he
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finally got help from an outreach worker like him. i didn't know anybody, but it came to a point where i was just sick and tired of being sick dad and i knew where to go, who to talk to to turn them. ran. >> he says kicking people out of these encampments, breaks trust. >> they no longer trust outreach workers. they no longer trust the city the main issue when you displaced from the cabinet is fine and safe place to rest. so all that goes away. and then they have to start all over again. >> what's going to happen to these people when they're cleared out? now, they're going to try to find another place to rest of the head, but see cabins, communities that safety in numbers. so this is like a, like a town on those yeah. >> in cabinets nearly every person here has an individual story. you can see the big picture things you can see people are here because they're very low-income housing and dc and everyone in other countries just far too expensive. you see people who, because of that economic vulnerability, if i am living with a mental health issue, if i am living with
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trauma than and i'm more likely to be here. >> these individual stories advocates tell me are at the heart of the solution. one person finally getting a housing voucher or another, knowing how to act sas emergency rental assistance. your shirt says and homelessness, your hat says and homelessness. how do we do it? how do we end homeless? >> one case at a time one case, one case at a time and this morning, outreach workers at that encampment in dc told cnn a few people have been placed in temporary housing, but the majority are just moving to more unsafe places closer to dangerous roads, closer to overpasses, scattering throughout washington dc, which makes it even more for difficult for those outreach workers to help them get off the streets into homes. just around the corner from trump's hush money cover-up case in new york. trial is happening in the corruption case against democratic senator bob menendez. today in court where prosecutors say he stashed gold
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