continuously show me that he loved me and cared about me. and i've been sober since then and now i have 17 months congratulations for that. thank you. >> do you dream about the future? >> yeah. >> a few years ago, i didn't think i'd be alive and so it was really weird turning 18 and having plans to go to college and just all of the things that i get to do now at one point, i didn't know of lucy was going to live or die. and now i know lucy is going to do whatever she wants to do in this world. every single one of these kids gives us all hope today that no matter how hard your life is, things can get better. one day at a time i was at such a great program and that young woman lucy, her face just lit up when she was talking about her her sobriety, what effect that a school like this exists say, about the state of the drug crisis in our country, especially among teens yeah, i mean, it's sad.

>> i think that a school like this has to exist. but on the other hand, you're glad that it does. it's sort of the physical embodiment of harm reduction, something that we've talked about a lot. i will tell you, anderson, just over the past few years you've seen drug usage actually go down in the united states. but at the same time, the drugs have gotten stronger they've gotten deadlier, and they are easier to obtain. i mean, keith was telling me these kids, they'll get the drugs off social media and they'll pay with venmo which is i guess no surprise then that the number of overdoses among adolescents has doubled over the last several years. so it's an incredible program, but said that it has to exist at all for sanjay gupta. thanks so much got it. >> thank you sure. >> to join sanjay this saturday. may 18 at 9:00 p.m. eastern for the hour-long special champions for change with a look at 12 people making a difference. again, that's saturday at 9:00 p.m. eastern it's a process. the news continues right here on cnet outright.

>> next, breaking news, new reporting just into outfront about the trump team's strategy in court tomorrow. >> and what is the most important day of the entire hush money trial? >> we now know what team trump plans to zero in on with michael cohen, plus more breaking news. this our a brazen assassination attempt a world leader, close putin ally shot five times in broad daylight, still in the hospital. as i speak, will tell you what we know and nikki haley doing it again, primary after primary double-digit support, even though she dropped down to the race months ago. so where are these supporters going to go? let's go while front and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett and we begin out front tonight with the breaking news, the trump is too cheap defense. >> so paula reid has this incredible new reporting tonight about teen trump's strategy heading into what they say will be the most important day of trump's criminal trial. so in just hours, michael cohen is going to return to the stand and cnn is learning that

trump's lead attorney todd blanche, right, who's doing the cross plans to zero in on just how cheap trump is using that cheapness to say that trump would never have agreed to quote gross up the stormy daniels hush money payment to michael cohen this is what goes right to the heart of the entire criminal case, which is the alleged fraud business documents remember, not illegal to pay the hush money payment. it is how and when the payment happened. that matters trump's basically going to say he was way too cheap to gross up that hundred $30,000 payment now, this would be a very clear shift from what we saw on tuesday blanche and cohen went back and forth talking about cohen's profanity laden posts about trump, how much money cohen made from his books and podcasts and anti-trump coffee mugs and t-shirts and the cross tuesday was confusing for any of us who were in the room. harry litman, a former deputy assistant attorney general, said, and i quote harry, my basic assessment, cross is not crisp, clean, or quick enough.

the managing editor of lawfare said, most of it boring and seemingly aimless. and even this piece from fox use cross-examination throws michael cohen off balance, but belabor is point that he hates trump the labors and buoying, boring, not glowing reviews and it may be not trump lawyers fault, not blanche's fall. i mean, trump, of course, is the client and in this case, not a client who takes direction. a client who gives direction, a client who calls the shots. >> his legal team has managed to stay on trump's good side by doing what trump wants them to do. >> tap, tap on the shoulder hand the note in an immediate reaction from blanche or beauvais or necklace. >> so will that change tomorrow? >> remember that blanche here is a well-regarded former federal prosecutor. he has a very good reputation. he's taken on people accused of murder, and he does know what he's doing in a courtroom. and as we're closing in on this crucial day of testimony, questions are now growing as to whether trump himself will actually testify. of course, he has said he would is lawyers haven't fully shut down the idea the trump will do this,

and that is going to be the crucial question so much at stake with how this cross goes tomorrow. and paula reid is out front to begin our coverage live in new york tonight. and paula is your incredible new reporting here at the center of what trump's team is planning tomorrow. tell us everything you're learning once you just said this is the game, the cross-examination of michael cohen tomorrow will likely decide this case. >> and i've learned that they are going to now start focusing on what he said during his a direct examination and his previous statements about this case, they're gonna zero in on some new things that he revealed while he was on the stand. >> and also look at some statements that they believe have been inconstant distant. >> in addition to trying to challenge his memory of conversations he had with then candidate trump back in 2016 are also going to challenge this idea that cohen he wasn't doing any legal services for trump or that ms grossed up money was not meant to be payment for legal services and point to the fact that michael cohen has never had a retainer

and the entire time that he worked for trump, so that should not be something that is a significance now, the goal here, aaron, is not to destroy roy michael cohen on the stand. the goal of the rest of this cross-examination is to sow doubt in the minds of at least one juror that they should make such a significant okay. good decision based on the testimony of this man now, this cross-examination of michael cohen could go until monday and then it's unclear if the defenses going to call any witnesses, but they may call just one expert witness to the stand betweens the jury could have this case by thursday. >> wow. all right. paula, thank you. very much. and our experts are all with me. so paul martin, hours away from michael cohen coming back on to the stand, an interesting, they're gonna go right to the heart of it to basically say this fraud here is not something trump would have done because he wouldn't have grossed it up. >> it's about time because enough of beating them up a lot by the issue is not whether he

lied to congress, it's not whether he lied to another court. if the issue was is he lying to this jury? and i think blanche is going to have to really cross examine him and bring out the fact that what he said in his previous testimony is untrue and then force him to admit that he's a liar to them, to them in this specific case. that's correct. necessarily, you know, todd blanche well, you know, when i was sitting in the room the other i mean, he started out and he was livid, right. calling out a post that michael cohen had posted with profanities about todd blanche that got strike stricken from the record and then there was this for such a strong start at then there were moments it was boring. i'll be honest. so they in the room you know, todd blanche worked for him for many years. >> do you think he felt that and he's going to bring it tomorrow? i think that was an unusual place for todd to start and it didn't go well for him. it was objected to the judge shirtless, left him down and he had to pivot. he started and then he went into a lot of questions about motive here. what is michael cohen's motive to testify to make money or he

hated trump? that's right. >> i think he made those points and really needed to move on. cross-examination doesn't always produce those aha moments, those tv moment, some of it is just plotting and boring and it's a way to poke little holes, little paper cuts in the witness's story that ultimately the defendant and so it's going to stand up at the end of the day and say all of these little thing, show that michael cohen is incredible. >> so daniel as a form manhattan assistant district attorney, you know, having been in these rooms before, what is at stake for blanche tomorrow. >> so i think what's at stake for him is he is really, as paul said, he's really got the cut to the chase. he cannot waste time. i know that there's been some reporting that the cross examination may go until monday. he really needs to bring it home and get to the point. and if the defenses as paula suggested, its tank trump is too cheap he's gotta be very careful that the prosecution has spent

weeks building evidence to show how engaged donald trump is in the minutiae of the finance of his organization. and that's a very, very fine line for him to walk is stephanie, what do you think of the trump is too cheap to actually have agreed to gross up that money fats. so when i was listening to you, i was actually smiling, aaron because it's true. he's known for not paying people and that that he can be quite cheap. but i think to me that just shows how much he wanted to cover this up, but how important it was that story not get out there before the election day? i. it makes no sense to me that seems kinda random. i don't feel like it will backfire yeah. >> and it is i mean, it's new. i mean, in terms of what paul, we're hearing, i mean, but i guess the question is if it doesn't go well tomorrow or as well as they think it needs to go then you've got the question of trump himself yes. >> and that's interesting question because i wouldn't put him on the stand if it's my last dollar or 130,000 of it

depended upon it, but listen, this man controls his attorneys and he doesn't listen to his attorneys. his attorneys want him to stay away from that witness stand. the prosecutor putin, wants him to take us. >> you were saying he will have to deal with questions literally along the lines of what color were your what color were your box. >> okay. i was gonna go with pajamas, but you're right box? yes. >> so he's going to answer those questions. those are questions that he's uncomfortable with and he's also in a position where he's not going to be able to pivot and walk away the prosecution is going to keep him on that witness. and are going to get the answers that they want to hear he's not going to have the question. the answers that he needs the answer to get them acquitted i'm just curious, sir, when you look at this, like do you do you understand why todd blanche is in this position to begin with? >> i mean, we've talked about i mean, obviously is a great reputation many years i know you think very highly of him. he's chosen to go out on his own, have one client work at a 40 wall street via home near mar-a-lago. does any of that surprise you?

>> it's a decision that i think other defense attorneys wouldn't have made trump puzzle long history of falling out with his lawyers, long history of not paying his lawyers this was i'm sure todd wait a lot of factors before making this decision, he gave up what was prestigious job and partnership at a procedures firm to do this. so he had his reasons. i don't know what they were and but definitely some others would have made a different decision, right? >> all the eggs in one basket as they may say, daniel obviously trump. we've got that question of whether he will go on the stand and they were a couple of witnesses that the defense was talking about, maybe an expert witness. do you think it's worth it for them to put anyone on the stand? i just don't know how an expert jibes with this defense, right. >> they have tried to impeach desperately the credibility of the two key witnesses, right? stormy daniel's are actually three. keith davidson and now

michael cohen. so what is an expert going to add to this? they've essentially said these witnesses made this up for all of their various reasons. so how does an once an expert going to add to this, i'm not really sure i understand what the strategy would be for that. >> stephanie trump keeps saying he wants to testify, then he said, oh, my lawyers told me not to write. he's he's opening giving giving the cracking the door open to not actually doing it. do you think he really wants to think is ego, of course, wants to, he wants to go in there and fight. it doesn't like again, that he's been sitting at a table and he hasn't been able to say anything. he talks about this gag order all the time, but i don't think there's a chance he'll he'll do it and he we'll continue to blame blame his lawyers. they'll blame the judge. you'll say it's because of the gag order which we have know is not true. so he knows the stakes and so he won't do it. but i'm sure there's a part of him that's itching to paul. can i just from where we are right now? how far is the

process where are we on reasonable doubt? >> right. you need one juror to have a reasonable doubt. that's all you need. where are we right now and that have have they proved beyond a reasonable doubt with what we have seen thus far with texts or text to allen weisselberg with gross up on the sheet of paper. >> well, you've been in the courtroom i think they brett made out a prima facie case, but who knows what's going on in the minds of the jurors. someone may not, unlike the way stormy daniels turned one way or they didn't like the way cohen made an answer to this question or that answer the real issue is going to be the i think in this case, the summations. if trump doesn't take the stand, if trump doesn't take the stand, this is going to be in a summations case that will win in that in the closing statement, correct so when you look at it, what i find so far has been so much emphasis to stormy daniels and michael cohen. did you hate trump? well, yeah, obviously they did and they both said that, right? >> i mean, not at the time. right. but that they do now. but there's been an extraordinary amount of time spent proving that they hate donald trump when they both

posted such on social media again and again and again, it's not a secret. >> what's the purpose of that? >> but defense team has really trying to undermine their credibility. and they're doing it any way they can at the end of the day here in order to convict the jury has to believe michael cohen michael cohen gave the crucial evidence and the last few days regarding these meetings with trump won with trump and weisselberg, one with trump at the white house the jury has to believe michael cohen's version of those events. i think to convict here. so whatever the defense team can do to undermine michael cohen recollection of those events, his credibility generally is going to help them help bring them to the finish. >> is there a piece of evidence thus far it in or that you think is most crucial to proving beyond a reasonable doubt that trump directed this i think it's just the whole melange of small pieces and big

pieces in some ways, i think that some of the most compelling evidence came from the people from trump world. >> the assistance the secretaries, the controllers, who talked about like, hope hicks did, it's a small all family business and it's run very tightly very carefully in some ways that to me is the most damaging evidence because it just completely eviscerate any defense that trump didn't know about this or wasn't engaged with it at stephanie, i guess it does boil down to the bottom line. if you take the gross up number and you add in the extra the legal fees or whatever they're saying, about $400,000. is there any way that you can see from everything you know of trump that that any such amount would have left without his knowledge? >> absolutely not. i think madeline, when madeleine westerhout talked about how he looked at everything, he was very thorough. that is how he was with everything, whether it was communications or finances, i remember for convention, the rnc convention that we're going to have on the white house lawn

for the 2020 election. we we had to fight with him about the small dollar amount to cater food for people on the white house lawn. so that was the president united states arguing with east wing about food. and it was like $5,000. so absolutely. that is who he is. he looks at everything. >> all right. thank you all very much. i appreciate it. powerful anecdote there next the breaking news we do have new video of a world leader gone down in broad daylight today, officials are giving more details about what motivated this attempted to sedation or live outside the hospital is in surgery. we understand right now, plus russia making gains in the major ukrainian city of kharkiv. we're live on the ground there are nick peyton walsh's there, and stocks at all time highs tonight for new inflation report president the federal reserve bank of chicago is out front welcome to the waiver hood with wave. >> finding your style is fine

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slovakia was actually in surgery for several hours as the surgeons here we're fighting for his life, obviously shot almost point blank, five times the authorities saying all this happened at an offsite government meeting ventral slovakia that he was supposed to chair. >> and before that meeting, apparently, he was going to greet some people in the crowd and that is when a gunman opened fire. now the government of this country says that all of this was politically motivated and it's certainly happened in broad daylight. and i do want to warn our view are some of the images you're about to see are very disturbing. here's what we're learning and assassination attempt in broad daylight. just slovakia as prime minister robert feet. so shot and unable to walk bodyguards rushing him into a car you alleged shooter still just feet away tackled by police pizza was shot multiple times and immediately rushed to the hospital. then airlifted to a major trauma center. >> his condition is life

threatening according to the slovakian government roberts pizza is still fighting for his life. >> slovakia's defense minister says, it's supposed to go, so it's absolutely clear. >> one eyewitness said the scene felt like, quote, a nightmare and described hearing quick shots ring out in the crowded area on a mountain alone. >> those are several. >> it was quick one-by-one, like if you throw a firecracker on the ground, i saw a scratch on his head and then he fell next to the barrier no one else was injured in the shooting, which happened in the central slovak town the hand lava just after an offsite government meeting you stay move. >> this was feet, so right before the attack, speaking calmly at a press conference, like any other day? pizza who served two previous terms as prime minister. divisive figure in slovakia and across europe he won a third term last year by running on a campaign to end military support for ukraine

making no secret of his sympathies for russia, pizza is known for being anti-immigratio n, anti lgbtq rights, and very critical of the european union. but in the immediate aftermath math of this assassination attempt, politics has been set aside one of slovakia's opposition parties also calling it an attack on the nation's security and put them in an attack on the prime minister is clearly an attack on the internal security of a vacua many in this country of about 5.5 million people, deeply shaken and shock by the violence i think it's a nightmare that this is not possible to happen in slovakia so that you. >> can see very little known at this point in time, aaron about the actual alleged gunman, a certainly, of course, there's a big investigation that's going on here in this country. one of the things that we did mentioned in our report is that a feat. so is obviously very close to vladimir putin and therefore very controversial figure, not just in europe, but in this country here as well,

vladimir putin also one of the people who spoke out today calling what happened year-to-date, a monstrous crime and also saying he hopes that robert fits. so we'll pull through aaron fred. >> thank you very much. in slovakia. >> and also tonight, russian forces pushing closer to kharkiv any northeast ukraine, a major city home to more than 1 million people on friday obtaining a video update from the city's mayor tonight, who tells us that constant battles, those are his words are underway there as the russians are striking residential areas from the air, here he is you should use the russians have become more active. >> and the tactics they are using now, our tactics to intimidate people, to destroy housing to destroy communications. this is a tactic to intimidate people, to force them to leave the city nick paton walsh is out front live from kharkiv, ukraine and nick, obviously you have been there many times throughout

this war scene. >> it liberated now seeing again these attacks, how fast or russian troops moving toward the city yeah look, it is frankly horrifying how we've seen a completely new front opened by russia frontage, you say, which we've seen kicked down 12 in 2022. >> i was near study salty up towards vovchansk, a key border town today. and just reminding myself, standing there, how we'd seen the russians pushed out of their late 2022. this is probably the worst moment for ukraine on the front lines since the early months of the war itself. and behind me, you can barely see harkey if a reflection of the light discipline they have here we've had missiles landing in the past hours. other booms, it's above chance on the border where russia appears to be seen the most progress ukraine admitting today that their troops had put themselves and more favorable positions. that's basically a euphemism for a tactical withdrawal there. and a police chief said there was gunfire in the city i spoke to one woman who'd been just been evacuated this

afternoon. she said she'd been in a basement hearing the town on fire for days and knew that russian troops were in neighboring street. so it appears things have very grave in that particular the town. also, russia seems it has its hands on about a double digits worth of villages along that border area. that goal, it seems to keep pushing south towards this ukraine's second city potentially putting their artillery and range that maybe one goal, another goal potentially is to force ukraine to rush for what is north from already very heavily stretched front lines in the east and in the south. that's something president volodymyr zelenskyy today warned he was cognizant of as he counseled or foreign travel. remember part of his job is get written allies, trying to get more arms faster. >> the real fear erin has in the last week or months we've seen russia make extensive progress in the east tiny villages, people barely ever spoke of, but essentially lining themselves up for summer where they can really pressure

key ukrainian military hubs in the east and really make a huge difference on that front line. >> this isn't just one new unexpected front in the north the pushing all along the front lines and the east and the south. and that is seeing some kind of gain. remember, the arms that secretary of state antony blinken talks about in kiev being on their way that would delayed by a republican congressional dysfunction chanel city since december, they're not here. they won't be here for at least a month. they may trickle in, but they aren't changing the battlefield at all yet. >> vladimir putin sees a window. >> he knows that potentially in a month or two things will be a lot harder because ukraine will have the ammunition it needs to stop advancing russian forces. so he's got the ammunition now he's got the manpower, has got the time, and he's got the resources his throwing them all here. we can hear out towards vovchansk ourselves, many airstrikes landing nearby. they are really moving pretty fast as i say, probably the darkest days for ukraine's front lines

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year inflation ticking down tick down from 3.5% to 3.4%. you might say, well, that is just really almost nothing. and okay, but it comes after several months of increases in the inflation rate out front. now, austan goolsbee, president of the federal reserve bank of chicago, also, of course, was a top economic advisor in the obama white house and a professor and a lot of other things but present goolsbee, i really appreciate your taking the time here so core inflation goes from 35234 and i know that's, as i said, almost it's not very much, but it had been going up so people obviously are relieved by any sort of assign that maybe inflation is abating. do you think that this one report is a sign of where things are going or not? >> i hope so. i mean, does seem like the day trading crowd gets themselves worked up, up, down in an every other way faster than the timetable that the

data come out faster than the than the, let's call it the monetary timetable if you take a step back over the last one year, one-and-a-half years, inflation is way down from its peaks and we were able to get inflation down. it's pretty substantially without a recession. so that in itself is extremely unusual and to be applauded. >> but let's not make too much it. >> yes, there was improvement. i'm glad we saw improvement but we hit a briney, tough bum at the start of this year. we had seven months of decent inflation numbers at the end of last year we had a couple of months of poor inflation numbers to start this we're seeing some improvement, but one month is no months. i mean, let's let's let's get several months before we start getting real happy after in march, you had said you were open to interest rate cuts this year. >> i believe you said you open

to three of them. >> and then in april, pointing to the inflation numbers, right. >> which had started to look more grim. you said we have to wait with the wait and see on cuts. >> so where are you now on them? >> let's do you think the fed will cut interest rates this year or not i mean, i really don't like tie in our hands even partially when we're going to get a whole bunch of information. >> i'm gonna i said on the continuum of doves the hawks i don't want to be a bird where the data dogs and the data dogs thing is know the difference of when is it time to walk and when is it time to stop and sniff and when you're getting numbers that are crosscurrents and some of the numbers are strong and some of the numbers are weak. the thing to do is just keep sniffing around and try to figure out, is that a sign of overheating or are we on this longer trajectory of inflation coming down? i'm optimistic that we're

continuing on this downward trajectory, but i just think it's too early to be, to be moving, right. >> and of course, the contexts, obviously, okay. >> as you point out, the market goes up, the market get though is very detached from the way americans perceive things right now, because we see it everyone sees it. >> people are worried. people are worried about the economy. it's the number one issue and they are you see it in consumer sentiment numbers. and a lot of the concern does come from inflation when i interviewed president biden, i asked him about that and i asked him about some of the real challenges people face and how he sees it. and i wanted to play the exchange for you the cost of buying a home in the united states is double what it was when you look at your monthly costs from before the pandemic, real income, when you account for inflation is actually down since you took office, economic growth last week, far short of expectations tensions, consumer confidence, maybe no surprise, is near a two-year low with less than six

months to go to election day are you worried that you're running out of time to turn that around? >> we've already turned it around. look look at the the michigan survey for 65% american people think they're in good shape economically, i think the nation's not in good shape, but they're personally pretty good shape. >> the polling data has been wrong all along when i started this administration people were saying are going to be a collapsing economy. >> we have the strongest economy in the world let me say it again. in the world all right, so i just want to ask you about the way he began his answer. >> we have already turned it around. do you think that's fair? >> i hesitate only because once i joined the fed, i kinda got out of the elections business. and the argument of who takes credit and is it already fixed i kinda resist. i don't i don't wanna get drawn into that. >> i think the long arm of inflation and as you know,

aaron, the fed by law has a dual mandate maximize employment and stabilize prices. >> the strongest thing in the economy has been the job market and the weakest thing by far has been inflation. and prices. and you see that in the vibes, the vibes are definitely worse then the, then the actual data conditions and as the fed is confronting, trying to get the inflation rate down with that question of, is it already on a path back to our target of 2%? >> we don't know yet. >> i mean that's the thing we're trying to get more confidence on. >> all right. well, austan goolsbee, thank you very much. the president of the federal reserve bank of chicago, and i appreciate your time tonight it's great to see again here. >> all right. you too. >> next the nikki haley factor. she has been out of the race now for months. and yet a lot of people are still voting for

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independents going in and voting for haley but do you read anything into this is this a warning sign for trump or not i think it's clearly warning sign. >> these are protest votes. these are people who are not happy with how he is presented himself and the position she's taken on certain issues, and they are expressing themselves and the only way they know how the primary system we have in america okay, is but one of the flaws is that we can't get more people to participate in primaries. but in this case, these voters have said, given what i've, given the opportunities that i have i'm going to make sure that my vote is heard loud and clear by voting for a candidate who is not even in the election i mean, is when you look at this, i mean, it is just state after state after state now, this is coming ahead of debates because present biden, former president trump have now agreed to two debates, which is very significant, right? the first is going to be here in june on cnn, both sides tonight though, are now casting doubt on their riley evelyn, whether they'll

actually follow through here they are today donald trump says a lot of things will see if he actually shows up. i wonder whether or not he shows up sort, of like a game of chicken here how bad will it look for either one of them if they literally don't show up? well, i think these are the two least popular presidential candidates in a long time, so i don't know if they're numbers can go any lower, but certainly not showing up after you've given your word and your campaign has given its word that you'll be there. it's pretty embarrassing and speaks volumes. it's still pretty far out from the election. so yeah, i suppose they can make up some room as they get closer to the election, but if you're going to agree to something, this significant this noteworthy to the american people. i would expect both of them to follow up and i expect both of them to be there. >> well, now, i want to ask you about a couple of other important things right now. one

of them is what's going to happen tomorrow? you've got two of the most powerful republican committee chairman, jim jordan, james comer. they are pushing with a resolution to hold merrick garland, the attorney general, and contempt of congress. now, obviously, you know them both. well, you served in those committees. >> do you agree with jordan and comer? on this move to hold garland and contempt no. i think it's a political stunt. aaron, this is a the the transcript from president biden's testimony in front of special counsel, her has been turned over. they have the material in front of them, what they're looking for is present it's been biden's voice so that it can be used by the trump campaign in an election cycle. that's just unnecessary. >> attorney general garland, give them a huge amount of credit here. >> he took a lot of grief from the left for not redacting the report and withholding certain information that he released so that he to be fully transparent. the american people would have all the

information. and now he's getting attacked by the right for not releasing an audio or an audio tape that can be used in a campaign. i he is an attorney general, released the transliteration. >> right? they released the transcript. they have the information. or they're just looking for something for political purposes. >> all right. it's significant, right? there's not what they don't know what he said. they do. of course, they have a full transcript just like we do every day in that courtroom. and speaking of trump and court, i want to ask you about something that senator mitt romney just said actually a little bit ago. so i don't know congressman, if even a chance to hear because it happened right before we came to air rami, of course, voted to convict trump in both of his impeachment trials. he told nbc in part quote, i had i've been president biden and i think it's important because at that moment, as you know, congressman, when he talked about a voting to impeach because of january 6, he was moved to tears about the importance of that decision in that vote, which is why what he's tonight to nbc? see is insignificant. he says congress and had i been president biden when the justice department brought on indictments, i

would've immediately pardon tim at a pardon president trump why? >> well, because it makes me president biden, the big guy and the person i pardon a little guy and you know, again, the context here, a man who was moved to tears with his vote to impeach. >> we know where he stands. he thinks these are real and important cases talking of course, about january 6. do you agree with senator romney? >> i don't. i actually think that you go through the trial process. if president biden wins the presidency again and president trump is convicted, there's a lot of ifs and that sentence, i think that president biden then should consider pardoning president trump, but i think at this point in time, president trump has should have the ability to defend some in court. and when an innocent verdict or not guilty verdict rather than having a pardon right at the beginning where a cloud remains over his head, right? >> interesting that you don't support that prompted pardon all right. >> congressman buck, i always appreciate talking to you. thank you. >> thank you.

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take down richard nixon. >> i've had conversations with michael. i think we came to our courses through de very different backgrounds and experiences. richard nixon son was an establishment terrion. he believed in the institutions have government donald trump has no real knowledge or understanding of the institutions of government. and he has no conscience either. >> both dean, who was a white house counsel during watergate in the early 1970s, and cohen who is trump's lawyer during the alleged events of the hush money scandal, initially stood firmly by their presidents. only when things started going south and cohen admitted to crimes and went to jail, did he turn on trump? >> he is a conman and he's achieved now, cohen is testifying to how hush money payments were made, how records were falsified, and how he says trump told him to just do it cohen told out front from the get-go, it would be tough facing his old boss. >> nobody wants to do this. this isn't fun. de and

understands. >> he also admitted to a felony and he told the us senate of discussions with nixon about hush money for watergate conspirators amid fears, pushback by the president's defenders process people can do money, getting clean money, and things like that now, dean watches the fury around trump and wonders what will come after cohen's testimony is done and the verdict derives the fact that somebody would turn around and go to extremes way beyond richard nixon is a little bit startling and a little bit troubling to me, still court in history watchers say both men represent a key figure in so many such cases, the fixer, the insider, the loyalist, who's not loyal anymore, when one of them flips that threatens directly the

power and perhaps the freedom of the president involved. that's why he, michael cohen or a john dean represents such an important part of the story of a corrupt president. >> it is important to remember nixon was never impeached, never charged with a crime, but he did resign and was pardoned, later, admitting he lied about the watergate affair and adding quote i let the american people down erin. all right, tom, thank you very much. next, the law enforcement the thing that law enforcement agencies around the world are on alert about tonight, a dangerous inmate freed by gunman their van slammed into the prison van and it all was caught on tape more than 500 million in art stolen me, saw what turned out to be the biggest dark heist in history. >> you can't help but wonder if this was some sort of thing sayyed job how would really

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