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we're going to go to her live in a second plus isn't. in biden today condemning the alarming rise of anti-semitism in the united states drove many people deny, downplaying rationalize and ignoring the horrors of the holocaust and october 7th, is absolutely despicable. and it must stop silence iyad comments as recent pro-palestinian protests bill well beyond college campuses, one pro-palestinian group even claiming that they crossed the line into serious criminality and arson and leading this our stormy daniels on the stand going into detail about her alleged rendezvous with donald trump. >> did the prosecution and did the witness go too far against judges orders giving tmi on the alleged encounter, giving the defense legitimate grounds for an appeal. we're going to continue our coverage of trump's trial starting with cnns paulo region paula do you
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were inside the courtroom today? i'm sorry, inside the courtroom yesterday. and tracking donald trump behavior today, how did trump seem to be handling hearing this testimony from stormy daniels that had to have been quite embarrassing yeah. today, he was as invested as we've seen him throughout the course of this trial yesterday, too long time trump organization employees testified to some potentially critical evidence. >> for the most part, trump has leaned back in his chair, eyes closed, but today, as for me, daniel's was on the stand who is leaning it? he was watching hurt either directly or on his screen. here's prompting his defense attorney to make objections. he was clearly actively involved in his defense, and jayyab think it paid off when they came back from lunch. i use clearly agitated as they left for the mid-day break, but when they came back, his lawyers move for mistrial they didn't win that, but the judge conceded that yeah, at times, some of the things stormy daniels said we're outside the guardrails that he had set up and then it was also interesting to see
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this cross-examination by his lawyer, susan necklace. we really haven't heard from during this trial. >> it was aggressive and at times devastating for stormy daniels. >> now, again, she won't make or break their case, but this has been a very effective de from the defense and clearly there hi, i had a lot to say about what they should be doing. >> drops attorneys are set to resume cross-examination of stormy daniels on thursday. wednesday, i think the judge hears other cases at times today. stormy daniels appeared really quite tense when facing questions from trump's defense team yeah, we knew this was going to be unpleasant. >> i mean, they got her to admit that, yes. she hates the defendant. she said that she would quote, dance if you went to jail she always have hundreds of thousands of dollars as a result of other litigation and they pulled a tweet where she said she doesn't want to pay that quote, orange turd, a single dime. they also undercut her
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credibility, getting her to contradict herself. i mean, it really because i can uncomfortable cross-examination , i think for anyone in that courtroom, but most of all, stormy daniels, this is what we expected, but i think what everyone can take away from today hi again, stormy daniels is not going to make or break the prosecution's case. but michael cohen he will. and this is just a preview of what we can expect to see when he takes the stand every retweet, every podcast, every quote in his book, they are going to pull out and put in front of him to try to establish that he has some sort of motivation to undermine the defect ended, that there's some sort of event data. so that'll be, that'll be an incredible today. today was just a preview. >> thank you. paul rhie appreciate it. let's bring in the rest of my panel. oh, karen friedman, nif. & shayna jacobs are with me today. paul is still with us, of course, as well. shannon you were in the courtroom today. what did you observe from donald trump during the testimony? >> just, like everyone else in
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the courtroom. >> donald trump was listening intently to every single word that was said. >> every bit of testimony from stormy daniels, like everyone else, he's been waiting years to hear what she would say potentially under oath at a more under oath in a much more formal setting than she's ever told this story before and he was paying attention the entire time karan, there were lots of celina just quotes that stormy gave on the stand today. but a lot of it was not necessarily legally relevance. karan, do you think prosecutors have to walk a tight rope here donald trump admitted that they had sex, but says this is just an extortion and a and that's all this was. >> then i would agree that there were too many details that came out. but if you're calling her a liar and saying this never happened, i think the prosecution has a right to be able to try and prove that she's telling the truth and
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not say that this never happened because they're really going hard on her by all accounts the cross-examination is quite intense and it's all it's very aggressive and very much calling her a liar. and so when she talks about things like i took the special element elevator up to the pen house floor and keith shilling was outstanding outside and i go in and the suite is bigger than any apartment i've ever lived in. and there was heavy furniture and he was wearing this and those types of details have the ring of truth. she said one point she went into the bathroom and look through his bathroom bag and he had pert an old spice and the gold nail clippers mean those are the details that gives someone gives a story of the ring of truth. and so that the jury can assess her credibility because her credibility is an issue on the stand and paul, this morning, mr. trump hosted untruths social quote, i have just recently been told to the witnesses today, this is on precedent and no time for lawyers to prepare. >> no judge has ever run a
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trial in such a biased and partisan way. he is crooked and highly conflicted, even taking away my first amendment rights. now he's starting to me with jail and they have no case according to virtually all legal scholars and experts, why isn't the fake news media reporting his conflict i mean, we have reported many times on the fact that his daughter works in a democratic firm but mr. trump deleted that post minutes later. even though the reference to the witness was vague and not specifically critical. but do you think he might have deleted it because of the gag order? >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, even a vague witness reference could potentially jeopardize his defense lawyers from getting the names of witnesses and. also potentially land him in jail because the judge was clear that that is on the pile that possibility was on the table. and jake, i think the greatest legal risks that stormy daniels how's this to trump today and over the next few days, does she testifies is
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just making him melt down and violate this gag or to the fact that he hasn't lost it in front of the press pool that is notable. he has been better about following the gag order, even before he was fine. that's $9,000. conservative activists have said this. >> he shouldn't do this and that was really what prompted him to stop. >> he did not violate it today. i think even people close to him are telling me they're a little bit surprised and there's still time should be back on the stand thursday this is a big task because clearly her appearances it's getting under his skin, but she is one of the people protected by the gag order. >> let's also bring in right now jim shultz, former trump white house attorney gym at several times today. trump's defense team kept objecting anytime the prosecution got close to suggesting that the encounter was not what stormy daniels wanted to happen, not that it was not consensual, but stormy at different points said, quote, there was an imbalance of power for sure between her and trump. she also noted that he didn't come at me. he didn't rush me. nothing
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like that. unquote but she did suggest that she regretted it, regretted saying yes felt she didn't have another option how important is it for that distinction to be made and why do you think that defense attorneys were so focused on objecting anytime she suggested anything like that? >> so the basically putting a marker and that they're objecting to this testimony because it's prejudicial, its probative value is outweighed by it's prejudicial effect and this would be prejudicial testimony. prejudicial to the jury, not relevant to the case itself, that this that the judge let the let this testimony go too far, that this could potentially color the jury's thoughts on the case, and which ultimately led to their motion for mistrial, which was denied by the judge. but i think that they were trying to get on record that they're making these objections they didn't object to everything and i think that was part of strategy. you don't want to you don't want
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to pound on the table too much because then it brings brings attention to testimony that you that you might otherwise it might bring more attention to the testimony. so i think they picked and they were picking and choosing their spots and they pick that one in particular. >> all right. thanks. one and i'll let's bring in cnn political commentator, former trump white house communications director alyssa fair. are griffin now? what do you think the reaction inside trump world is? right now after today's dramatic testimony, i think it's gonna be a mix of outrage that the former president had to sit there and listen to those salacious details. his wife's name coming up. this allegation that he said that she they did not share a bedroom but i also think that the defense did a pretty effective job today, and i want to say this. i'm not an attorney. i know republican voters on no, the republican public. i'm a bit stun that the prosecution liens so heavily into the salacious details about the sexual encounter, rather than talking about who stormy daniels is i interviewed her recently. she's a mother. she's been
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nearly bankrupted because of her former attorney now paying trump's legal bills, she's somebody who could be a very sympathetic figure who also could have credibility. and i think to really lean into that side of it, i don't know that that's going to play well with a this was something that took place in 2006 do is 27 years old. he was 60. that data point matters, but i've just got to say, i am not convinced this as the rock solid case at the prosecution's thinks that they have and thinking of the political implications heading into the election, if donald trump gaetz, off in this case his voters are not going to trust further more important trials that come up like the january 6 investigation or the documents case, if those cases happened before the election i listed let's play a little bit of what mr. trump said just moments ago, i want to get your reaction this was a very big day a very revealing a, as you see, there cases totally falling apart nothing on the books and records and even
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something that should bear very little relationship to the case disaster for the idea to the source back to disaster this is generally what we've heard from tromp many days after core. do you think as lawyers have said, that's as far as you can go without violating the gag order, you go after stormy daniels. he didn't mention are once there, it was a good day for us. take the win well, yes, i think that he actually thinks it is, i think has defense getting her to admit that she hates him, that she was interested in getting money. those were winds that are going to resonate. but i think he's also very concerned about violating this gag order, potential jail time. but i also think he's working the system. we know that if there's one thing trump knows its media so, even by posting that statement to truth social and quickly taking it down, it's still going to be on social media, on other outlets. it's still going to appear in the news media and people are going to see the message he was trying to convey to me. the judge is probably going to have to get more
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explicit and cracking down on things because he knew what he was doing by putting it out there and then removing it. it's still got into the public eye. >> just to be clear though, you found her testimony credible i mean, i have no doubt they encounter took place, i think to karen eq difficult as point she made a very compelling case about the specificity of the incident. >> it's the later details about saying she hates him, the statements she'd made against him. i don't know that that's where i would have gone i spoke to her wants and she didn't rule out voting for him again, that's actually more of how i would have wanted to frame her. this is somebody who's a republicans since 2010. she's not a trump pater, but this the facts of this case stand. this happened this is how she was mistreated and that way it's more of a strategy issue that i have an issue with. >> 11. fair griffin, always good to see you. thanks. so i'm at some breaking news is coming in. another trunk case that's the federal classified documents case against him in florida. the judge there has just postpone the trial indefinitely. this news just coming in. we're back with the details, stay with right now,
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indefinitely postpone this trial. let's get straight to cnn's kaitlan, poland's kaitlan what is driving this incredibly consequential decision by judge cannon? >> well, judge, i link canon in florida says that this classified documents case against donald trump, it's too complicated and there's too much to do right now that she has to work through. and so she's taken the trial date off of the calendar instead, laid out a plan through essentially the end of july to handle other issues. in this case largely around the use of classified documents. remember this is a case charging donald trump with the mishandling of nearly three dozen national security records. and because it's about national security, jake, there's quite a lot of classes sulfide material that is part of the case, and that the defense team is going to try and argue to use in their case to present to a jury or somehow in the trial, that is a big hefty thing that this court has
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to wake work through. and so that is what is going to be taking place during the summer before judge aileen cannon, she now has a hearing on the calendar for may 1 for june, and then another for july. but no trial date and she says, once she gets through all of the other stuff she asked to do in this case. that's when she will be announcing when the trial will take place. the bottom line here, jake is exceedingly unlikely almost to the point where it may be an impossibility for donald trump to go to trial in this florida classified documents case before the november election. >> wow. kaitlan, poland's thanks so much. let's bring back seen as paula read, as well as former trump white house attorney jim schultes said a significant shift, certainly playing into trumps strategy of delay, delay, delay. but also we should note special counsel jackson ms really has voiced some serious
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concerns, if not animus toward this, judge yeah absolutely. >> i'm there may come a time when he tries to get her removed from the case, but at this point, that's premature. what jack smith knows tonight though, is that it's very possible well, he may not be able to bring either one of his federal cases against former president trump before the election and the election is a significant point on the calendar, because if trump was re-elected, he can have jack smith and both of his cases dismissed. now, hear this this case, the classified documents, k's postponed indefinitely, but the the honor prosecution that smith has ghraieb, the january 6 gaze also on ice, while the supreme court contemplates a trump has presidential immunity. now, in the arguments couple of weeks ago they signaled to they're not likely to toss that case out, but they might toss it back down to the trial court for more litigation. schick and that's why it would make it possible to bring before the november flexion. obviously, we're here in manhattan for this criminal case. the other one outstanding is the rico case down in georgia, but
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again, it goes back to the strategy of delay by trying to have funny melissa nathan weighed removed from the case. they successfully likely push that until late in this year and it's very difficult, again, of trump is re-elected to put him on trial down there. so this it's long game that they've been playing to dry the delay, everything overall has been successful. the one case that is going forward is what was always considered the runt of the litter he's consequential of the four, but it is still a historic case. the first prosecution of the former president united states. and jake, it might be the only one jim, how unusual is delayed? >> i like so in cases where you have classified information, it's not all that unusual because the defense has a right to ask to use certain cough classified information in cases like this to defend itself. >> and then the judge has to evaluate whether and do a balancing test as to whether it's going to allow that classified information to be used as part of the trial because remember, it becomes public once it becomes part of the trial. so the judge needs the way those considerations
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and i'm sure that the tropp is part of that trumps legal team as part of the strategy put forward a number of things that they needed in order to defend itself that involve classified information. and therefore, she needs to hold hearings on that so i'm not surprised and i said way back when that i thought that would be the the the the one thing that would delay this case are the hearings on the classified information that's how it turned out. >> and paula, judge cannon cited significant issues around classified information in the cases. the cause for this delay as jim just alluded to what specifically needs to be worked out here well, that's her version of events to jim's point. >> it is absolutely valid to say there are serious questions around classified documents. >> what gets in, what gaetz out, what won't be allowed in. >> and a lot of that is done behind closed doors that takes time, but i leave canada approach to this case has come under considerable scrutiny, and she has moved at a glacial pace a lot of decisions still outstanding and there are a lot of questions about why she has taken so long to move this case
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forward. some have suggested that she's trying to help the defendant, the man who put her on the bench. others have suggested it's her inexperience. she's only benefited federal judge never dealt with anything like this. and then there's also a question of just analysis paralysis, the inability to make decisions, especially after she was humiliated, bench slapped by the court of appeals for decision that she made very early on related to the marles case. >> but her handling of this case has absolutely slowed it down. >> now, would it have gone before the election unclear, but she continues to be under scrutiny from legal experts and members of the bar jim, what are the options for jack smith? >> special counsel can he moved to have her removed from this case? can he appeal this? what actually can he do? >> so he really doesn't have a pellet rights here. the the the jud the district court judge in these types in trial cases like
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this, have control their docket. they can control how fast the case moves. they they, they can push it forward and a rapid pace. they can they can they can take a good old time working on motion practice and other things. they set the docket. there's not much he can do there. i mean, he's gonna be hard pressed the have an argument to have a removed i don't see that being successful. let's fill in this matter. it's unlikely that that would happen. so i think he's kind of both. >> sorry, sir. he'd gone he's at the will of the judge on this and there's not much you can do. >> all right. thanks to both. you appreciated of course, all of this is playing out in a major election year as we all know our panel of political experts are here to weigh in next listen up america meat has problems and it's going to take us mediators to solve them well says too much meat is bad and we should eat less of it. >> we say no world. we should eat more. >> because now we can turn plants into burgers and hot dogs even meatballs. now,
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>> former president trump's classified documents case, the judge, their arlene cannon, just indefinitely postpone that trial here to weigh in as our panel of political voices, david axelrod it does look as though right now, the only case that is going to go forward is the one right now having to do with these hush money payments, alleged cash money cover up and that the other cases might not yeah. >> look, you hear trump say that biden has been masterminding the whole thing. if he were mastermind finding the whole thing, this would not be the trial that he wanted to go so yeah, i think this has been a parent for a long time. judge cannon has not been exactly speeding along here to try and make this happen. the supreme court has the other case, and georgia is georgia. i think this is going to be it. and the question is as he convicted them be what does it mean? and if he's not convicted, what does that mean? >> yeah yesterday, former house speaker paul ryan was speaking at a conference, the milken
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conference on california. >> he said he believes the biden trump rematch favors the current in joe biden, but he says, a biden win hinges on one major condition. let's roll that tape i still think trump can't win, but biden can lose but if biden can't get to the middle, i don't know for the life of me why he's chasing these left-wing voters. he's going to get on trump's going to deliver those voters for him he's chasing the wrong voters. and so if he doesn't piguet soon, my guess is trump wins it do what do you think about that analysis as the pollster on the podium? well, it's definitely the case that biden's voters or this point more likely to turn out than trump's voters anytime we take a poll and we look at the most likely people to participate in the election they're leaning toward by democrats are doing better these days. phase amongst the types of folks that are reliable trump's coalition or folks that are not as tuned in that, that's not to say every trump voter is not tuned in, but just the type of voter who only really participates when trump's on the ballot, he needs trumps the one that's going to need to bring out people who otherwise are less
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attached to the political biden needs younger voters he's lost younger voters by a substantial margin. he's only ahead of trump by single digits in 2020, it was over 20 points so i think this is a real issue for him and a lot of these left-wing voters, if that's what you want to call them, are younger voters. and so that's a problem. you know, i think there's a meta issue in the campaign that a narrative that kind of governs it the republican messages, the world's out of control and biden's not in command. so to the extent that he looks like he is pulling his punches on a particular issue, whether it's the border or the protests. and that makes him look weaker and that probably hurts some, but you know what? i have a lot of respect for paul ryan. i wouldn't necessarily take advice for them on a presidential race because what you should be as not for paul, by paul rhie and economics, what biden needs to do is be edgy and populist on economic
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issues in a comparative frame with trump, because i think the. issue of inflation and costs is a real thing and he has to, he has to at least blunt that argument a little. >> where our polls right now, like if the election were held today, what do you think? what do you think would happen? >> i actually think if the election were held today, trump is very slightly favored but very slightly and that's in part because looking at some of these battleground state polls biden is just not raising a lot of enthusiasm. there's not a lot of belief that his policies have made people better off and particularly on the issues that are the most important to voters right now, they say things like the economy. they say things like immigration are the most important issues. those are not once we're voters think that biden has done a better job than trump did. well, but the issue for the democrats that they can use to their advantage as abortion, obviously. and if you look at issue sets, that's the one area. the one area that by now outpaces trump on, not the
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economy, not inflation anything. but that's the one area. and that's why you see kamala harris going to florida and that's why you see joe biden talking about it so much. and there's no doubt that that i think they're going to make a maximum effort around that. >> and when you look at where there are initiatives on the ballot, it may be helpful in places like nevada and in. arizona, but fundamentally these economic issues are important and you can't just surrender them to trump and there's a real choice between biden and trump on these issues. and they have records on these issues and by nada the insulin and lowering drug costs and trump's 1.7 trillion dollar tax cut and these are, these are good issues for biden and he needs to frame that argument. >> where do you where do you see both the protests about what's going on in gaza and what's going on in gaza? as factors in this election, if at
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all, i think they're very low on the list, i have described foreign policy is kind of the background of this election. >> what's up background? i mean, if you'll go to college campuses, it's not background music, it's not on college campuses, but also to what extent our college campuses representative even of young voters they really aren't necessarily and to the extent that they are representative of the electrode at all, i mean, 0%. so i think that's important context to keep in mind. there's a lot of heat, a lot of emotion, a lot of action happening there. and gloria is absolutely right. young voters are not enthused by biden at all and they're an important part of the democratic coalition. but i do think it's important even though they are a hot button top issue on the minds of say, college students right now, either who are protesting or who are say, having their commitments, commencements canceled as a result of protests. it is not the number one issue or the median biden gave a speech on anti-semitism today and he didn't give an inch to the brightest. >> that was interesting, definitely thanks to all of you appreciate it more breaking news, a our israel there's only two factors would allow it to let up on him. it's military
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the federal court in washington, and this is cnn robbing or worldline israel's military has captured the palestinians, sayyed of the qi raffa crossing in guys overnight is really strikes, pounded the densely populated region sources on the ground celsius and the 27 people, including children, were killed. >> today's israel's defense minister. you have galant vowed to press on saying that the operation will continue until hamas is either eliminated or untold. the first hostage is returned as negotiators in egypt work to get israel and commas closer to a ceasefire in hostage deal. let's get right to cnn's clarissa ward, who is in jerusalem for us, clarissa now we're learning more about what was in hamas is latest response. tell us let's do the main stumbling block. jake appears to be this issue of these 33 hostages who were set to be released. those would include women, female soldiers, the elderly, the sick in the deal or the proposed deal that
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hamas agreed to. there's a crucial change in the verbiage around that. and they essentially are saying that some of those hostile which is could be returned dead, that there remains would be returned if 33 could not be found alive, the israelis have said that is absolutely impossible for them to agree to that. it would set a dangerous precedent for any living hostages who remained. it could allow for them to be killed. the second major your issue in terms of disagreement between the two sides is this issue of hamas basically saying that the deal they agreed to would entail all israeli forces leaving the gaza strip permanently. again, israel saying that it cannot possibly commit to that and that the framework that should be agreed upon is this so-called six week pause in fighting, if you will, 42 days now, despite both sides saying that they are now very
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far apart from each other, the israeli so particularly saying that there's a lot of daylight we've heard from the white house spokesmen, john kirby saying that he thinks the gaps can be closed. we're seeing frantic diplomatic efforts. cia director bill burns was in cairo as those talks continued today, he will be traveling here to israel tomorrow. he will be meeting with the head of mossad, david barney. i also with prime minister benjamin netanyahu as efforts continued to really try to force some kind of a deal and back to gaza. >> palestinians were celebrating yesterday when they heard the news that hamas accepted a deal, although it turns out it was, it seemed to have been a different deal than the one is real been working on what are palestinians, what are gaussians saying now they're terrified. jake, the ones that we have been speaking into, are fearful that this is going to develop into the highly dreaded
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raffa offensive. >> they are moving often for the fifth or fourth time we're hearing from the un that is saying that 200 people are evacuating now from raffa, every single hour, the main hospital in the east stern part of raffa the use of ana jar hospital has had to close down and evacuated. there's reports of looting now going on there. and every single aid organization is up in arms because the rafah crossing& the karam shalom border crossings had been completely shut. that means that aid can't get in except for through the north arrows crossing the idf and colgate saying today that some 60 trucks managed to get in, but that is a drop in the bucket compared to the scale of the need. there are very real fears, particularly about the issue to have fuel which you can remember jake was such a huge issue early on in this conflict as well, fears that more hospitals will have to close down though the state
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department saying today that israel they'll has committed to reopening kerem shalom border crossing tomorrow we will say all right, clarissa wardens, jerusalem. >> thank you so much internationally today, police or part of your thigh, israel in kammen at the university of chicago early this morning, we're moving signs and thani protesters reacted angrily, shouting at police, po, shame on, you know, arrests were made according to the president of the university of chicago in portland, oregon, police are investigating claims made by an anti-israel group that it's set ten police cars on fire. the portland police bureau says at least 15 cars were ultimately damaged or destroyed in the crime which happened last thursday, the group claiming responsibility on monday goes by the name rachel cory's ghost brigade. that's named after an american activist who was killed by an israeli bulldozer in 2003. as she tried to block a palestinian families sound from being demolished. richard query is father disavows the group using her name and the violence they show against the backdrop of these anti-war protests in the president biden
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today denounce the rise of anti-semitism in america and reminded the world of hamas is atrocities against israelis in october 7th that prompted the current conflict, biden spoke today at the us holocaust memorial museum is annual days of remembering ceremony at the us capital cnn's kayla tausche is at the white house force. kayla how did president biden connect the holocaust to the october 7 hamas terrorist attack? again? israel, jake biden such a draw many parallels between the two events. >> the systematic targeting of jews, the rise and anti-jewish sentiment and propaganda, and the isolation you should have jews within their communities. he even drew some parallels between the origins of world war ii with hitler invading poland to the reason why israel has a military very campaign and gaza to begin with, here's what the president said you wanted people deny plan rationalize and ignoring a horrors of the holocaust and october 7 including hamas is a
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paula use of sexual violence to torture and terrorize to ancient hatred of jews that preceded the holocaust and extends beyond even now, jake. >> but he urged americans to heed the lessons of the past to avoid these atrocities in the future. but a reminder, he's given these sort of warnings and condemnations after the january 6 and direct insurrection after the sharp let's fill rallies that spurred him to run for president. and these deep divisions still remain. >> all right. kayla tausche at the widest for us. thank you so much republican senator, who was just in the middle east had just gotten back this morning, is going to join me next with president with reaction to president biden's comments today and the latest a news from the regions stay with us the assignment with jati cornish, listen wherever you get your podcasts doug lima, someone needs to customize and save hundreds and car insurance
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is really in hamas negotiators meet in egypt to try and achieve a ceasefire deal seen in, has seen the document tailing hamas is latest proposal which the terrorist group agreed to on monday. since then, israel has rejected two key points, including commodities requirement. that israel commits to ending the war altogether. and hamas is offered to include dead hostages in the first phase of the deal if they cannot find enough living hostages and joining us now, iowa republican senator joni ernst, senator, thank you so much for joining us. you just this morning, got back from the middle east, so i want to get your reaction to something president biden spoke about today. his address against anti-semitism in the united states. take elysium now here we are not 75 years later. >> but just 7.5 months later people already forgetting are
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already forgetting that's a. boss unleashed this terror i have not forgotten nor have you it's president biden, right? >> do you think have too many people, too many americans forgotten that what happened on october 7, yes, they have jake & thank you for having me on today. i've just returned from the middle east where israelis are very concerned about what they say happening across the united states at our liberal campuses and others. as a matter of fact, but also another nations as well anti-semitism hey, i'm not exist should not exist. most certainly not here in the united states of america. we have seen this era upon era time after time. it has got to end. now, hamas is the enemy not the jewish nation, and certainly not our job. you wish friends. >> you were just in the room with key is officials given the
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back-and-forth with the proposed ceasefire in hostage deal as well as israel's invasion of raffa. a, what, do you make of this moment? we're in i think this is a very tenuous moment. of course, and we are leaning forward. we're on the edge of our seats but certainly i think the israelis feel that the only leverage they have over hamas is to continue through rafah. i know this so earns a lot of people, boy, president biden saints to be sweating this out with his mentioned of withholding munitions from israel. but this is about hamas. this is about destroying them. this is about the existence of israel. this is about the right for jewish people to exist. we don't see that type of support. we need to say from egypt, from qatar and hear from the united states, the pressure should be
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on hamas. the pressure should not be on israel. hamas is the one that did these prosody is on october 7th, murdered innocent men, women, and children, drug away the elderly is holding eight americans hostage three of whom are now deceased so hamas is the enemy, jake, we cannot forget that after report surface that the white house was considering accepting some palestinians from gaza as refugees. you wrote a letter to president biden, signed last week, signed onto by 35 other republicans senators. and you wrote in harb we're not confident that your administration, the biden administration can adequately vet this high-risk population for terrorist ties and sympathies before admitting them into the united states, unquote. but surely i know your heart goes out to the innocent panel hello, stephanie and children and innocent palestinian civilians who are not part of hamas, who have been killed, who have been severely wounded what's your response if there's a wounded
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ild palestinian child perhaps their parents are dead, perhaps their parents are wounded you don't think that that child or their family should be admitted into the united states. >> now, i do think that there are reasonable ways to treat those injured on most certainly women and children. but all we have to do as point to egypt. now, egypt is right next door. they are neighbors to the gods as a strip, and yet they have refused to take in refugees from the gaza strip because they cannot sort through who is an innocent palace? danny in and who is a hamas terrorist. they have refused from day one to do that, even with those women and children. so we do have to work for with our arab partners in the middle, as i am certainly willing to fund those activities to make sure that the food is getting to the right people well, that medical support is getting to the right people. i would say the
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international red cross needs to go into the gaza strip. but do you know who? this refusing to allow that hamas hamas is refusing to allow the humanitarian aid to flow. and to those who need it, most, jake. so again, my heart goes out to those innocence that are trapped in this war. but what would help is if hamas hands over those hostages, both the living and the deceased and comes to terms with a cease fire that can be negotiated between israel and hamas, not between egypt, qatar, and hamas is drill has to be at the table during these discussions. >> iowa republican senator joni ernst, just back from a trip to the middle east. thank you so much for joining us. yes. thank you, jake a big announcement today from the boy scouts of america that may have you asking, what's in a name that's next moscow is torres was at the absolute peak of his
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