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>> michael cohen. this is the first witness is starting to testify. the david helped trump's case russia's new it girl, stink television now fawning over marjorie taylor greene, even though she tried but failed to sink american aid to ukraine. here what they are thank tonight about quote-unquote moscow, marjorie and melania trump. now selling more jewelry. >> is it to help her husband pay his legal fees let's go out the front and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. we begin with trump's trials spilling out of the courtroom on a de, when the prosecution and defense laid out their cases for the first time to 12 jurors and the six alternates in the room. and it's on this momentous de that former president trump and his former fixer, michael cohen, are now in a free-for-all? know did actually start in the courtroom. >> it was during opening statements, trump was watching as his lawyers were tearing into the key wetness they said, quote, his entire financial
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livelihood depends on president trump's destruction referring to cohen so that was all well in the courtroom. but then after court, when trump walked out and you could speak to the public, he said this about cohen what are they going to look at all the lives that gone? good in the last row? he that joint line so he got caught lying pure lime well, i'm insider cohen firing back hey, von expletive in pants, your attacks of me, stink of desperation. >> we are all hoping that you take the stand in your defense. >> let's public spat between a key witness and the defendant is remarkable in a court. >> and trump, of course, is under a gag order forbidden to speak about any witnesses in the trial. but this public brawl breaking out just hours before trump is back in court face-to-face with the judge, juan merchan for hearing on gag order violations. he faces fines and of course, violations could ultimately put them in jail. so this is really serious stuff. and it comes as
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witnesses are already taking the stand, the prosecutors first witness was actually trump's longtime personal friend and the former chief of the national enquirer, david he was on the stand today for a brief 40 minutes, and he will be on the stand tomorrow and it's going to be much more extensive. we just barely started their is at the center of the hush money payment to the adult film star stormy daniels at the heart of this case now, trump will be there for all of that testimony as he is required to be every single day of this trial. now, we've heard for him so many times complained before that court dates are keeping them off the campaign trail that he has to be in the courtroom and is prevented from being in iowa or whoever where it is, except for it has not been true until now. now he is required to be there and it comes as the stakes are rising, a national poll tonight showing biden gaining steam in national poll and that has trumped concerned this is what took me often takes me off the campaign trail because i shouldn't be in georgia now i shouldn't be in florida now, i
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should be a lot of different places right now, campaigning courses are kristen holmes reports, context matters here. on a normal week prior to this trial, trump was only campaigning two days out of seven paula reid is out front live outside the courthouse and where you, of course, have been spending the day and i know sitting with you for part of the de paula texting nonstop with your sources on those legal teams, what more can you tell us about what happened in that courtroom in this was the first time and the history of our country that a jury was sworn into here, criminal allegations about a former president didn't of the united states today in their first day on the job, they heard these dueling narrations about events that transpired roughly eight years ago what's going on right here should never be happening. >> it's a very, very sad de, the american former president donald trump's criminal trial kicked off today with the jurors hearing competing
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accounts of why a hush money payment was made to adult film actress stormy daniels just weeks before the 26 16 election, matthew colangelo laid out the prosecutors theory of the case, which he said is about election fraud pure and simple he says, it all started with a 2015 meeting at trump tower between trump his former attorney, michael cohen, and the former publisher of the national enquirer, david the government alleges agreed to use the enquirer to help trump's campaign by buying and suppressing negative stories about him and by amplifying stories that were favorable to him. prosecutors allege the salacious access hollywood tape on earth, just before the 2016 election was significant because it turned the rest of the presidential campaign entirely upside down when you're star, they let you do it you can do anything, whatever you want, grabbing,
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but they alleged that once the tape became public, trump's campaign went into damage control mode. >> worried about what an allegation of an affair with adult film star might do, trump and cohen arranged a $130,000 payment to keep stormy daniels quiet just two weeks before the election, that's the case as to book-keeping, which is a very minor thing in terms of the lawn. >> and this is what they tried to take me off the trail for. that checks being made to a lawyer. a lawyer or was a lawyer? >> in the defense is opening statement. attorney todd blanche argued his client is innocent. thank president trump did not commit any crimes and call the 34 counts of falsifying business records against him. >> just pieces of paper blanche directly responded to the allegations of election fraud, saying there's nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called
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democracy. the defense then attacked likely witnesses daniels, and cohen blanche called daniels allegation of an affair sinister and an attempt to embarrass president trump he then shifted to trump's former lawyer cohen, who he says is quote obsessed with trump, and that cohen's financial livelihood depends on trump's destruction. david was the first witness to be called shortly before he took the stand. prosecutors referred to him as a coconspirator for helping trump tried to cover up his alleged affair tomorrow before the jury returns to the courtroom, there'll be a hearing about the gag order in this case. prosecutors alleged that trump has violated his gag order over half a dozen times. and this gag order prevents trump from attacking people involved in this case, like witnesses and the jury. >> he is also barred from attacking family members prosecutors, and the judge, though we can freely attack the
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judge or the district attorney, alvin bragg. >> now, after that hearing, the jury will come back in the courtroom and davidai will be back on the stand. >> aaron, i paula, thank you very much there in lower manhattan and our experts are all here on set together right now. >> so joey jackson, let me start with you opening statements are crucial in some senses for many jurors, they'll say that's what made up their mind, right? they here at the beginning and then that becomes confirmation on what they heard when the when the witnesses go. so this matters a lot. >> so let's start with the prosecution. they go first prosecution lawyer goes for 46 minutes. so i'm just going to pick one line, but it was 46 minutes. one operative line from the transcript, donald trump orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election. then he covered up that criminal conspiracy cbi lying in his new york business records over and over and over again did they do a good job i thought so for a number of reasons. >> let's talk about that to
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your point, aaron, i think opening statements are simply a preview of what the evidence will show, but you have to maintain credibility and giving that indication into the jury. most good lawyers will do what the prosecution did do on the defense, in some measure, which is under promise and over deliver. and i think what the prosecution's point of view was and they said it in terms of your theory of the case conspiracy & a cover-up. now, conspiracy is not charged. that has legal significance. conspiracy to more people engaging in illegal acts. but it kinda is. and here's why what happens is is that from the prosecution's perspective, this was part of an enterprise orchestrated by trump to interfere with the election and how do they do that? they did that by virtue of this payment that was indeed reimbursements there's the prosecution and they had nothing to do with a retainer agreement and then they talk about the cover-up. and so i think to the extent that they put that narrative out there, they being the prosecution, they did their job and wrapping up what they're
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going to show over and over 34 times. again as to these fraudulent business records and the intent purpose, which was to interfere with the election and 34, because obviously there was a payment to stormy daniels and that which michael cohen says he he made he did make and then trump. this is how that reimbursement was broken up. so we've got every single one of those checks there as a former prosecutor in the southern district of new york you really understand the players and what's at stake here. so this conspiracy that they're trying to talk about here with, with trump, they say it all begins with a meeting with michael cohen, donald trump, and david. >> the three individuals that we're talking about today before trump even announced the campaign. >> and they say in this opening statement that they quote, formed conspiracy at that meeting to influence the presidential election by concealing negative information about mr. trump in order to get him elected and then they continue. and this was interesting. we will never know, and it doesn't matter if this conspiracy was the difference maker in a close
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election. obviously, this all came to fruition two weeks before the election drew that grabbed him by the p tape and you had this stormy daniels revelation, which we didn't know about at the time because of all of this. did they do a good job? >> i think they have their purpose here is to present this roadmap and to present a few themes that the jurors are going to take with them throughout this trial. frankly, i think the research shows that jurors really don't retain much more than those few central themes. so they need to hit those particular themes over and over again. i think the prosecution had to explain the why the what is really not in question, both sides agreed to some of the basic facts of what happened here, but they had to explain the why and they did that effectively. i think 46 minutes was probably too long. i doubt they had the attention for that long and they probably could have done it in half that time. >> well, and 46 minutes does
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sound like a long time, you know, when you tell people were giving your best man speech or whatever, you a shorter is better in this case though, aaron, i mean, 46 minutes. >> i wish i could keep my openings to 46 get out there. i think it was short in the context of what they had to explain. >> all right. so jeremy, you were there. so what was trump's reaction during the prosecution's opening statement and to this point, about being 46 minutes, how engaged was he threw out? >> what was most interesting with the press former president was just how much he was not reacting to what was going on. we had the prosecutor we had match i think glandular. he was bringing up a lot of illicit things that trump is alleged to have done i brought up the affair with a playboy playmate, the affair with a porn star. he brought up the access hollywood tape and throughout all of that, trump was not reacting. it was sitting back in his chair. his eyes would close the time to time and i think it's felt like he was making a point not to react. you would pass notes to his attorneys. he was there what about note passing thing. i'm particularly when the access hollywood tape we noted him and todd blanche, we're sending notes between the two of them, but it's obviously different than what we've seen trump in other courtrooms and even earlier in
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this case that morning, in the morning we had we talked about what the prosecutors would be able to bring into evidence if trump testifies and when the judge said that he would allow it ask about the civil fraud verdict that came earlier this year. trump shook his head at that. this was before the jury came in with the jury in there today as these things were being brought up, was very stoic interesting. >> so it's almost as if you really does know that is the audience now that matters, it seems it's certainly seems that fast. so stacy, your criminal defense attorney, and of course, you were a former contestant and the apprentice, so you i mean, you've got both a personal and a professional perspective on this. >> what did you see on the prosecution? >> yes. so i saw it was a smooth and solid opening statement, but i think they missed a really big opportunity michael cohen is the elephant in the room in this case. and he's got a prior conviction and he pled guilty in 2018 in federal court, among other charges to illegal campaign contributions. and he said out loud in court i did this at the
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direction of donald trump& that admission is the key of this case. and i think the prosecution should have honed down on that here and brought out to the jury. they said to them, here are all the bad things michael cohen did where we're letting you know now but you're going to see at the end of the case is that you should credit his testimony in this courtroom. and what they missed out doing is saying to the jury people don't plead guilty to things they didn't do so, michael cohen is going to bleed believable. he took a three-year jail sentence for this alleged scheme. trump is saying it's an alleged scheme. michael oh, it was saying it happened. so they could have tackled the beast because trump is going to come out and say immediately, michael trump's lawyers. and when michael cohen gets on the stand and cross examination, you're a liar, you're a convicted liar. you've lied over and over again. the de needs to have michael cohen say, which he
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will it's part of his testimony. i may have lied at other times, but i'm not lying here because i pled guilty to doing this. i didn't even go to trial. that's why is that? that's the one point i would make to that is i think they strategically in my view, avoided that and i think there were two think they will in that room fighting. >> should we should we i think the first reason is you don't want to put over reliance upon his testimony. yes, he's the elephant in the room, but we're going to prove this case not because of michael cohen and the second thing is i think there'll be able to prove it up with other witnesses with text messages, with emails, with audios that are not reliant upon him. so he doesn't then i'm the center racks. i think they strategically wanted to pivot such that it's not all about michael cohen. so when he is ravaged, which he will be in his perjurer, you lied to congress. you lived here. they're gonna be like so what about male? what about the texas that's right. what about the audit? what about
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everything else that's why we're not relying upon which it's gonna be fascinating, which, what else they do bring to your point. and michael cohen, when i've talked to me, says they do have all that other information that he views himself in a sense is additive, not not the only way that you would get to this conclusion oh, they do. >> i'm sorry. i was just gonna say that the linchpin in this case are the payments to michael cohen as an attorney and those clips we just had a trump's press conference today when he came out of court he's previewing to the world. this is what my attorneys are going to be saying. this is all worked out behind the scenes before we go to court, he's saying michael cohen was an attorney. it was very odd that he said that today, michael cohn, it was an attorney he submitted in an invoice and they put the payment to him on the books. when he said they i think he was referring to the trump organization so he could distance himself like he knew nothing about this the problem with donald trump doing that is and this is in the indictment and the de i said this in their opening statement, donald trump signed the checks to michael
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cohen and allegedly they came out of the donald j. trump account. so the whole press conference was a bit of a i think a pr disaster because it's going to hurt him in court. eventually, the jury and he came out, he does that eight minutes. jeremy talking, of course, in the courtroom what else did to you? i sat two. i know you mentioned that he was passing notes to his attorneys at time that he was engaged you know, what what moore's interactions? blake with his team and with the jury. >> yeah. it's interesting because when his attorney, todd blanche went to speak trump's demeanor, it's shifted he turned his chair, he faced he faced him, which made him faced the jury, and he watched plants as he went through his opening statement. i think the most interesting thing with trump today that was when david took the stand because trump he was sitting very motionless, expressionless, really watching david closely. and there was a light moment in his testimony where he was asked to account the last four digits of his cell phone number. it's for record keeping purposes, but he
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fumbled with the answer and it caused a laugh. david, he led out this very big laugh that caused laughter in the courtroom trump is attorneys were laughing, but he was sitting there expressionless, just stone face forward, looking at the witness. >> so i'll give you a final word on that. what do you make of that mean he is well aware now that everything i'm sure he's well aware of every comment people make on twitter about what he did, whether he fell asleep or anything like that? >> this seems to be that he is when he turns to the jury, what he looks like very calculated. yeah. i mean, if his lawyers are doing their job correctly, they are coaching him on that part of it and they were doing everything they can to try to control his demeanor, his facial expressions, his utterances has no path i think all of that stuff in the courtroom there they will not be able to do that outside of the courtroom, but they're doing the best job they can to control that within the courtroom. right. and clearly, he's decided to his interests for now. right. if he gets to be, quote, unquote controlled. >> all right, thanks. all of you very much. next trump once said the publisher of the national enquirer, david,
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yorkers on a quest for power and fame david and donald trump were for decades a match made in media heaven. so how did it all come to this? >> i don't think they even paid any money to that tablet. okay. >> i don't think we made a payment payment to that tablet. nobody except for me would be looked at like this. nobody for a long time, the relationship was good for both menn trump gave national enquirer or access to his fame. the tabloid gave him headlines. trump catches russia's white house spy. trump must build the wall. trump takes charge the paper gave him it's first endorsement ever for president trump returned the favor. >> i've always said, why didn't the national enquirer get the pulitzer prize for edwards and oj simpson and all of these things with slashing and burning enthusiasm relentlessly posted false stories about political foes i'll reportedly suppressing embarrassments for trump, like the time first lady melania up
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here to slap his hand away on a foreign trip. >> but those who studied the to men did not see an equal relationship really looked up to donald trump, still does and he put his very important magazines to work for donald trump's interests. then some big names had went too far in 2019, business mogul jeff bezos, for example, said threatened to release compromising photos of him unless bezos publicly refuted claims aims that the enquirer was improperly playing politics lawyers called it negotiation. >> it's absolutely is that extortion and not blackmail? but friendship with trump has already unraveling had himself admitted to prosecutors his clandestine efforts to help trump. he struck a deal admitting involvement in the alleged hush-money scheme. and now the two old friends are reportedly not speaking at all.
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aaron. >> all right. thank you very much. in front now, stew, zake, he was a senior communications executive at am i worked closely with so still this is so interesting is thomas saying now reports or they're not speaking? but was called of course, by the prosecution is their first witness, but the context friends with trump for decades& today, he did say hi to trump's table as he left the stand. >> what do you read into all this? >> what do you read into that when it comes to crucial testimony on trump well, david is very unique individual that he focuses on what is good for david he fully recognized that the eyes of the media, we're on him and interaction with trump while he was testifying and so he couldn't help himself knowing him. >> not to say hi and smile at trump and leave the ball and trump's core to respond which he didn't know.
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>> he did.& and that in and of itself is fascinating. so you say, just as the context that is so crucial here in terms of what packers is going to be saying on the stand tomorrow, packer and trump, you've described to us as quote, unquote clones tell me what you mean. still well, they operate very similarly. just says, trump has been renowned as we saw during his eight years, unfortunately, as president, he pitted a lot of his colleagues in a circle against each other. he would say one thing to one and say one thing to the other and see how they communicated with david operates the same way. i don't want to use the word bully, but that's certainly does apply to how he operates. and as his communications head, i was there for a lot of those game-playing that went down. so it's no surprise to me clearly that these guys have been friends forever. they feed off of each other. they offer each
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other benefits that wouldn't occur. and then the other relationship and now we have a situation where david made a deal with the southern district of new york to testify so that he would not be held responsible for the role that the enquirer and my titles as a whole played during the 2016 election and helping trump get elected, right? >> so as we're trying to, obviously, he had just started today. it was really just a few minutes of testimony. it's really going to be tomorrow. >> the prosecution in the brief time today, brought up a couple of items with stew and i don't know if you saw these, but i'm curious what you think they establish that he had an email accounts. >> so good that he used for work that he didn't tell his assistant about and they went through a series of phone numbers to see if he recalled them, including some of his own with a couple of errors he did when you take a look at just those two little threads that they started to put out there. what are you expected here from tomorrow well, i think he's
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going to actually take the unveil the magic, like the wizard of oz. >> let me take you behind the curtain& show you what went down once again due to the deal he made, which i'm aware of the specifics, but however, can only project with the southern district of new york to avoid being held responsible. he's going to tell everything and as much as people are predicting that michael cohen it's testimony is going to be really influential. i think once people really see the extent that david use the properties of american media, not not just the enquirer but the ami owned a lot of other tabloid titles not only that they own distribution and positioning at newsstands. so you can imagine if you're a commuter and you're walking through grand central or port authority or an airport. >> and all the magazines are aligned up and you're going to see the image whatever decided
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to put on that cover& as he said today the cover was totally his responsibility and i sat through many of those cover meetings. >> and so i can definitely say that was accurate but the impact visually, not that people are going to pick up the magazine and read and that's why the cover is so important. but if you walk by and you see six or seven covers in a row, that basically reinforce the same message that is on the enquirer as to lead. it doesn't matter if you are pro or con. that image is going to resonate with you somehow. and that is the power that david offer trump to squash stories that he would feel were negative towards him or give him a heads up and that's where we see what happened with stormy daniels and karen mcdougal& a lot of other stories as a result of that that's really fascinating what you just laid out about the psychology of the supermarket. i think we can all relate when you walk, you do see the same thing or the lack of the same
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thing. what that does to our psyche, whatever you think about a story. let's do thank you very much. i appreciate it. i'm so glad to talk to you well, thank you for having erin and i just want to say one thing as we celebrate passover tonight, i want to make sure everyone knows we are keeping the hostages from hamas in our hearts. >> and hope that they are safe. >> all right, let's do thank you very much. next russian state television going all in on what unquote moscow marjorie thank praise on the republican congresswoman for siding with putin. >> let's trump ignoring questions today about where his wife, melania is. >> as she reportedly cause the trial. a quote, disgrace one of trump's former chief of staff will be out for victims of mesothelioma and their families may be entitled to receive a cash award from the estimated $30 billion and asbestos trust funds with over $50 billion awarded, we have over 30 years
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need of lots of artillery ammo kyiv says badly outgunned by vladimir putin's forces but also air defense missiles with russia drastically escalating its missile and drone campaign against ukraine, cities and power plants. ukraine's president saying he's grateful for the aid, but the weapons need to come fast. >> chess music, politician either time between political decisions and inflicting real defeats on the enemy at the front. >> between the approval of the aid package and providing the strength to our guys this should be reduced to a minimum and ukrainians hope us aid will arrive quickly and change the tune on the battlefield allowing key us forces to stop further russian advances fred, of course, you're in kyiv and
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you have been there through this as ukraine has been just desperately hoping and saying their deed for us assistance it's now for months and months. >> now it looks like they can finally get it what about that point? >> so lenski was making, does it come fast enough? is this too little too late well certainly it's no secret for the ukrainians that right now the russian is definitely are pressing aaron. >> it's happening on the eastern front is happening on the southern front as well. if you look at the eastern front, for instance, there's that town of chasiv yar, which is near bakhmut, which of course we reported on so much in the past years, really with a russians are, have entered. that's how and actually already in are fighting for it, right? now. so certainly for the ukrainians is a desperate situation right now but none of these russian gains have been strategic yet. they don't have any main towns yet. they don't have any larger cities yet. and ukrainians do say, if that aid comes in when that aid comes, that they believe that they're going to be able to hold the russians up and possibly reverse the tide and maybe even launch a counter offensive of their own, erin. >> all right. fred pleitgen. thank you so much. live in
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kyiv, as we said tonight. and right now, i want to show you some live pictures from columbia university pro-palestinian protesters are gathering right now as i speak tensions have been boiling over on some college campuses in this country over the israel-hamas war. protesters camping out intense they're at yale, nearly 50 students were arrested late. today, isabel rosales is out front from yale tonight i was assaulted in the middle of campus. this is an actual crisis and an imminent threat tensions boiling over at columbia and other top universities like mit nyu, and yale, where at least 45 protesters camping on college grounds were arrested early this morning by the yale university police department yale university releasing a statement saying the university would not tolerate behavior that interfered with university to the operations are threatened, harassed, or intimidated. >> others. the arrest on
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college campuses coming as verbal confrontations. so between pro-palestinian in protesters and jewish students who they can knock ins may have escalated into physical ones. don't like me. >> my friend on saturday night was full-blown, assaulted he had he was shoved around. my friend. >> had it was a flag stolen out of his hands and rock-star on his face columbia monday resorting to canceling in-person classes and calling for a reset to deescalate the rancor. >> a rabbi linked to the university, urging jewish students to stay home, saying the events have made it clear that columbia university's public safety and the nypd cannot guarantee jewish students safety. the hostilities at growling for months alongside peaceful protesters camping in this tent city, the encampment and the fear drawing criticism from business leaders like new england patriots owner robert
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kraft, who says, he will no longer be donating to his alma mater, though he financially supports the jewish hilal on campus. >> i just can't believe in new york city at columbia university, jewish students hi, are afraid to go to classes the rebuke coming amid calls for action from congressional leaders who toured the columbia campus today. that is unacceptable for a university that is unacceptable for an academic institution. and all universities have an obligation to maintain the safety and security of their students from all backgrounds. >> we went the nypd saying they're prepared to enter columbia's campus if they're called in and pointing to the heavy police presence just outside columbia skates. any kind of violence that can be tolerated and that includes harassment an error let me. >> give you a sense of the
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demonstrators movement on campus that we've seen throughout the day of course, starting early this morning, we saw those tensions just reaching a boiling point between demonstrators and police officers who asked them to disperse. and those that didn't at a university plaza, just under if p of them were arrested. now, that area in that direction has been blocked off with yellow tape. they are now gathered here in front of the library chanting and singing all right. >> isabel, thank you very much. as i said, on the campus of yale tonight. and next, melania trump back to selling jewelry. this time a necklace a couple of hundred dollars what's it four? plus the trump courtroom sketch artist who drew this sketch is next, and she's going to tell you why this moments so it out to her as so unusual i'll go good news is a murder welcome i'm sorry. what she
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mr. trump hearing to access all or you against you melania has avoided the courtroom completely thus far privately calling the trial a quote, unquote, disgrace, and that's according to the new york times front. now, stephanie grisham, the former trump white house press secretary and melanie has former chief of staff and elizabeth williams. this sketch artists in the courtroom with donald trump today as she has ben other days we've had the honor of speaking to elizabeth stefani. let me start with you on the core of this, the stormy daniels situation, you spent a lot of time with melania when the news was breaking about stormy and you said this was very embarrassing for her that was before we found out today that david has a private email account, but could have even more for embarrassing details about donald trump himself. >> is she prepared for that right now i can guarantee she is watching every ounce of coverage. >> and with that came out, it
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picked her interests millennia is very much about proof shope proof and so if some more damaging stuff should come out that she didn't know about because of course her husband continues to deny all of the details here about stormy, especially if some other stuff comes out. i think that'll be really interesting to watch because you can't really dispute things that are in writing. and that's something she always paid quite a bit of attention to was was proof. >> right. and we don't know, for example, what's in that email account that was one thing dangled out by the prosecution when it comes to david though, elizabeth, you were in the room today and you were watching when he took the stand, if trump is there, you actually brought your as i say, first draft if history your drawing and it shows trump's avid focus here on david absolutely. >> trump. >> we can hold it up while you're while you're talking david came into the courtroom a donald trump looked at him as he walked in and walked in-between the defense table in
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the prosecution table and took the stand. >> and from that time, he was raised are focused on mr. and indeed, you can see he's sitting up on almost on the edge of edges cef, we can see you are and i know where as the other attorneys sitting behind, he's very, very focused on this, which was complete contrast to what he was doing in the morning where he had its eyes closed during the judge's ruling and the judge's instruction to the jury so it's it's quite an interesting comparison, contrast to the day. so that's why when i saw this and is a very important way, c is a stefanie saying, i mean central to this and easing when you see this, what it's really about the relationship between, between men here. >> so when we there's another sketch of years, i wanted to show today. >> i mean, this one was with but there was another one that
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you drew. were trump's eyes are closed and you sort of gosh, i feel like i'm looking at you, make me think of mooc here. what was happening in that moment? >> well, what was happening was the judge was explaining his ruling on the sandoval order and whether it was what terms of whether testimony and other cases allowed in questioning of trump exact ecoli and trump had his eyes closed, his head, tilt back and forth. however, then i would notice that all of a sudden he would hear something and he would snap to attention, take a piece, paper, write something down and hand it to todd blanche. so he really wasn't asleep, but he hadn't his eyes close and he did the same thing through the opening statement of the prosecutor he closed his eyes the entire time, so just seeing that seems to be from what you're saying a way that he's focusing i guess, but then when he then his win, his attorney gibbs, his opening statement he sits
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bag looks towards the jury he has a very different body language that point in time. so i see that i've seen that a lot with defendants. defendants will tend to not want to look at the prosecutor when they make i can opening statement. that's very typical. and when their attorney makes the opening statement, they will then look towards them but this was just so dramatic with i've never seen anybody close their eyes for all this period of time. >> ever. >> and i've been doing dash off a note clearly paying attention and stephanie, she say melania paying it attention to this just to sort of juxtaposition of how they're spending their time. >> she's out. now selling a new jewelry line, a necklace for mother's day, $245. she calls it quote, her love and gratitude nothing on the website suggests that the money raised is going to charity or anything.
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>> like that why do you have any sense what she could be selling the jewelry four, i mean, is this just money for herself? >> money to raise money for the legal defense we're trump's been trying left and right and center to raise money. what's it for? >> so i. try not to laugh at the thought that she would be raising money for his defense. i'm so sorry. that's absolutely not going to be at number one. they're using so many people who are contributing to the president and to his president or the former president and to his campaign for those things. but she's doing it for herself. had i've been advising her, i would have said a couple of things. number one, this is the first day of your husband's criminal trial and you're going to hawk some jewelry? probably not a very good look. and then yeah, i would have at least said, hey, are we going to give this to some kind of an initiative for children or her mother did just pass so person perhaps it would go to some kind of a whether it's also emerged cancer, something, some proceeds, but instead it just
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says here you go by this for $245 and then another thing that you had said at the beginning of the year segment is that she finds this to be disgusting trial or i forget what the word it has but if that were the case, she would at least put that out on x. she would say something melania trump absolutely does what she wants to do. and if she felt this was a disgrace, she would say something. >> all right. well, thank you both very much. i appreciate it. good to see you next to politician seeking the presidency accused of making a hush money the payment to a woman to secure her silence for their affair wait, are we leading our show? >> wait. no, no, no, this is a totally different case from back in the past. >> it's not trump, it's on edwards and what john edwards case says, right now could be crucial for trump's now, do i loved thee? let me count the ways love can get a little messy good thing. there's
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the prosecution against him in the hush money trial is unprecedented. >> assault nothing like this has ever happened before. there's never been anything like it while it is true, trump is the first former president to stand trial against criminal charges. >> another well-known politician had a similar story play out in the past. john edwards obviously was prosecuted for the same thing. >> and justice department failed acquitted on one and miss trial and the others, but they decided not to proceed. >> in 2011, then failed democratic presidential candidate john edwards faced as six count indictment for allegedly we accepting and using campaign contributions to cover up an extramarital affair and hide his mistress and their child from the public while edwards ran for president, while i do not believe i did anything illegal or ever thought i was doing anything illegal. i did an awful awful lot that was wrong. >> the jury acquitted edwards
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on one charge and split on the other five the. justice department to ultimately dropped the case well, the election interference and it's got to stop. >> it's a third world country. >> trump is charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal payments made to hide an alleged affair with an adult film star and influence the 2016 election. trump denies the affair and has pleaded not guilty, but trump's former attorney, michael cohen, swore under oath that he made the payments in order to affect the outcome of the election cohen though, was convicted of perjury in a separate case. the edwards case had its own star witness, a close aide to the former senator who testified to helping edwards keep that a fair secret. but prosecutors did not prove their claim. the cover-up was about the election. the woman with whom edwards had the affair real hunter told cnn edwards did not want the truth to hurt his wife. >> the issues for internal family phish's trying to hide
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it from elizabeth. >> try not to hurt anybody. he didn't want to hurt elizabeth. or his family a key difference could be the timing of the alleged affairs and subsequent payoffs, which might help spell out the payments edwards a occurred during the 2008 campaign with at least one payment happening after the election was over, long after edwards dropped out of the race in trump's case, the alleged affair happened in 2006, years before he ran for president the payoff is alleged to have been made just two weeks before the 2016 election persecution. >> and this is about me, but perhaps the starkest difference is how each man reacted to their cases there is no one else responsible for my sans none of the people who came to court and testified are responsible. >> nobody working for the government his responsible i am responsible.
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