pick a cleaner, and enjoy a spotless house for $19 i love using home ago and i think you will too be the windsor opening statements in the trump hush money trial starts tomorrow at nine eastern you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm alex marquardt and washington. >> thank you so much for joining us on this sunday. we are just hours away from an unprecedented moment in american history. the first ever criminal trial of a former president tomorrow, opening statements and trump's new york hush money case are set to begin after an appeals court judge denied trump's latest this motion to delay the proceedings. and now the jury is ready to decide trump's fate. there are 12 jurors and six alternates. they were sworn in falling a dramatic day if jury selection, let's get straight to cnn's marshall cohen, who joins me here on

set. so marshall, this is a big day for the country, a big day in history. a lot of it, it was this wall be happening behind closed doors with no cameras in the courtroom. but what can we expect? >> we won't see anything. we won't hear anything will be totally reliant on our colleagues in the room. they can provide real-time updates in writing and sketches. of course, look, it's been a long time coming. here we are. donald trump faces 34 felony counts. these are state charges. he can't pardon himself. >> if he is ultimately convicted. >> and the theory of the case is falsification of business records all about that. hush money payment to stormy daniels how they use the ledger of the trump organization to funnel that money to michael cohen after the fact and the prosecutor say that it was essentially a cover up, cooking the books so a lot of the names, a lot of the people who are involved in this trial are quite familiar to anybody who's been following trump's

travails for the past few years, who are the major players? >> and do we know anything about the witnesses and how there'll be called the major players. alex is a throwback to 2016. yes, we are in 2024 now, looking forward to the next election, but this is all hello, about two elections ago. michael cohen the longtime fixer for donald trump, who is now one of trump's biggest enemies. he's a lead witness for the prosecution. >> no love lost their start. yeah. they they hate each other. this point it's stormy daniels, of course, also expected to take the stand. she's the one who alleges the affair, which donald trump denies. >> there's also hope hicks, she was a campaign official in 2016. >> part of that behind the scenes scramble. remember the access hollywood tape, right? when that came out, the campaign was terrified that more stuff would come out. that's what triggered the payment to stormy daniels? >> that was right before the election, right before i think it was the last week of october close.

>> yeah. just a few days before there's also a man named david. he ran national enquirer. the prosecutors alleged in there and diamond that he and donald trump met in 2015 dean, and agreed that would catch and kill any negative stories like store media annuals, like another woman who alleged affair karen mcdougal purchased the rights of the story bury it, makes sure that the voters would never do it. >> i think one of the most incredible things about this is that donald trump has to be in court his standing as a former president is not getting them out of that. so what do we expect in terms of timeline and how much trump is going to have to be in court. >> so four days a week, i think they have brakes on wednesdays so donald trump is required to be there, like you said, this is how it goes for anybody who is standing trial on a criminal charge in this respect, trump is just like any other citizen. that means he won't be on the campaign trail and they are expecting this to last perhaps six weeks that gets us through april through may into june.

>> and he has been complaining about the fact that while president biden gets to be out on the campaign, campaign trail, he will not be there. he will be stuck in that courtroom. marshall cohen, we know you will be following every twist and turn in this trial. thank you so much for joining us. of course, you in just a little bit. let's talk more about this unprecedented moment with cnn legal planless norm eisen and michael moore, a former us attorney. thank you both for joining us on the eve of this incredible moment. norm, i want to start with you. you've been up against donald trump before. you advise the house democrats on how to go after trump in that first impeachment trial, you even written a book about how to prosecute trump what is your sense of this moment and how massive it is for the country? >> it's both something that we've never had before as a nation, a criminal prosecution of a former president and the most ordinary of events, thousands, tens of thousands of criminal defendants going through the motions. i'll be in

court every day, including for cnn opinion, & i was there last week, alex and what i saw was this juxtaposition between the extraordinary in historic event of donald trump in the dock as you note, i've litigated against him before we looked at these identical allegations in the first impeachment. but also the ordinariness jurors being called jurors being questioned the usual rules, evidentiary motions and that juxtaposition is one of the things that will define this trial as we go forward together with a battle. every trial is a battle of two ideas. this one the prosecution says criminal election interference in 2016, they're trying to describe it as a very important democracy matter. donald trump will say, it's just some wrong bookkeeping entries & a personal packet delay. embarrassing, not a

crime. and the jury has now been set 12 jurors plus the six alternate it's michael you were a us attorney for several years, given your experience, what are you going to be listening for during those opening arguments tomorrow? >> yeah well. i'm glad to be with both this opening statement is really a time to connect with the jury and what you don't want to do as a lawyer is over-promise, are oversell your case because at the end of the de that gives the other side the chance to say, well, mr. smith told you he could prove this, but he's not done that. so i really think there'll be trying to bag to trap a little bit to keep the jurors interested. i think they'll try to give a roadmap for what their evidence will be. and they may talk some about some experts expected defenses that they may here are expecting to hear at least from witnesses for the defense if if in fact they put on witnesses. so it's not going to be it's it's not hi evidence juries are told this is not evidence, but they do listen to it to try to have some relationship, i

think with the lawyers and a good tool for a lawyer to try to develop that relationship early on. so that as things happen in the trial, that jury looks to that lawyer because they trust him or her moving forward and in terms of the witnesses norm just heard marshall, they're laying out some of the bigger names who who could be called but the prosecutor so far have refused to reveal this witness list with the defense. they have cited trump's previous tweets about witnesses as their pretexts, their judge mark sean is saying that he won't force them to hand it over. do you think the judge made the right move there when it comes to the witnesses, i think the judge has been very cautious. i think the prosecutors will get the name of the first witness tonight. this will be attached this will be a test very likely. this will be a test. alex of, you know, will there be an immediate pivot to attacking whoever that witness would be? there has been public

reporting that it will be david the publisher of the national enquirer that's who i would call when i was preparing last week. that's the first witness i would call because coming out of those opening statements where you say what you will prove, you've got to grab that jury by the lapels the way they are going to prove this case is to say there was an agreement to make these payments to influence the election. how do we know that? because starting in trump tower in 2015, michael cohen donald trump, and david national enquirer agreed to a catch and kill scheme. and when the stormy to influence the election to avoid bad stories. and when the stormy daniels thing came along in october 20 when he it was just another step in that the unfolding of that agreement, so that is if true, a good place to start with because he gives you

another witness& a dramatic opening scene for your trial starts to set it up with that full mark, that full narrative michael in terms of the the jury and the pressure that they may be feeling, we've already heard some concerns from some of them about being exposed. >> we can certainly imagine there could be some security concerns do you think that the judge will end up making the decision to sequester the jury he could i mean, i think it would just depend on how far things go as astray as they move forward. i mean, no juror likes to be in this situation. i may need to think about their everyday folks. this is not except for the lawyers may be on the jury that we have to two on this jury this is not how they make their living. this is what what they do every day. loggers forget to we may be careful a courtroom that jurors are not. and certainly when they're under this this type of pressure in this type of

case, i mean, you'd have to do much to realize that the import of the case that they were going to be hearing, especially when they're talking about weeks of trial going forward. so if if somebody starts putting out addresses, if they start revealing identities, if there are things that they can point to and social media, those are the kind of things. and i think the judge may in fact say, look just to keep the trial clean, we're going to sequester the jury. he has seemed to be averse to doing that, and i think that's smart, frankly, in this okay. so thus far, but if things get too out of hand, he certainly has that option norm. >> the former president has said that he would consider testifying himself. if you were the former president's attorneys what would you be telling him? >> i would tell him if you do that. i'm quitting. i would throw my body in front of this be because it's a terrible idea why? donald trump cannot open his mouth without risking

ally, the washington post found over 31,000 lies during dependency of his presidency he standing there coming out of court every day saying the most outrageous, inaccurate, and false things. just a few feet away from where we reporters and analysts are sitting and watching. so i think it's extremely perilous that donald trump makes his own case worse compromises himself in front of the jury. that's in the liability phase. that's it. in terms of guilty or not. but then there's a sentencing that will come after that if he is held guilty and the one thing judges hate more than anything else? is when a defendant gets on the stand and lies to them and their juries. so it considerably worsens his peril at sentencing which i think is already significant. have a piece in the new york times today saying he could face a

risk of getting a jail sentence here if he testifies, he makes that a lot more likely, a lot easier for the prosecution. >> norm eisen, michael moore. thank you both for previewing what is going to be an extraordinary few weeks ahead and a note as norm mentioned, he's gonna be in the courtroom every single day and he's been providing a legal experts take on those developments for cnn opinion in that starts tomorrow with the opening statements. so look for that on cnn.com. thank you both for joining me this evening. we will have special coverage of those opening statements and former president trump's criminal hush money trial that starts at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. you can watch right here on cnn or stream it on macs still ahead, president joe biden is urging the senate to pass a critical foreign aid bill and to do so quickly as ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is warning that his troops need weapons and they need them. now, we are live in kyiv with more on how this aid is expected to help in their fight against russia. your live and the cnn newsroom new ally

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desperately needed military aid alongside billions more in aid to israel & allies in asia, particularly taiwan for what this means to ukraine. let's, let's turn to cnn, senior international correspondent fred pleitgen, who is in the ukrainian capital of kyiv fred, ukrainian officials that we both been speaking with for months now has been very worried that this aid might never have come yeah they certainly have been. and and right now, they're saying that this aid really can't come fast enough, alex, because the situation on the battlefield, but also because the ukrainian say they're running so low on a lot of the ammunitions that they need. and quite frankly, the us can provide very quickly. first and foremost is of course, artillery ammunition that ukraine means are saying that one of the reasons they're having so many problems holding the russians off, especially in the south and the east of the country's abuse, they simply can't fire at them from a a fairly long distance using those western artillery guns because they simply don't have enough shells to do so. the other big thing that we've been hearing, especially from the

president volodymyr zelenskyy. again, he said it today he quickly is air defense missiles as well. of course we know that the russians have really escalated their attacks on the front lines using their air force, but then also missile and rocket attacks that ukrainian cities and ukrainian energy infrastructure and the ukrainians are saying they badly need to replenish the arsenal of air defense missiles and finally, one of the things that also volodymyr zelenskyy talked at length about today. it was those longer range atacms missiles that the ukrainian say they desperately lead. and of course, for instance, senator mark warner saying he hopes that they could be coming to ukraine fairly quickly as part of this packet. now, here in key of today, i was able to speak to vladimir klitschko, who is of course, is the former world heavyweight boxing champion, but also still very much involved in the defense of this country. here's what he said on why this aid is so important. let's listen in today as a great potential for change the frontline so we can then ukraine defend us better since

also very important signal to put russia that you're not going to win this war, this senseless war that has been started over two-and-a-half years ago almost two years ago it sends a message of motivation for us ukrainians, that we are not alone it did send also for republicans and democrats in the, in this critical moments to stand together and make this decision together to protect democracy this world so that's vladimir klitschko there, alex. >> and if to underline all of that today, more bad news for the ukrainians on the frontlines, the russians saying that they took a village near the key town of chasiv yar. and of course, both you and i have been to chasiv yar in the past and just a couple of months ago, that town was well i'll away from the front line. well, now that's exactly where the fighting is, and that's exactly one of those places that the

russians want to take. alex. >> yeah, right near that city of bakhmut, that ukrainian fought in font so long to defend fred pleitgen back in kyiv. thank you so much for that reporting, joining us now is democratic congressman john gear menu of california has a senior member that how senate armed services committee, congressman. thank you so much for joining us. how are you now feeling after voting on these foreign aid package? i can just yesterday, you voted in favor of funding for ukraine and the indo-pacific, but against the israel funding well, i'm very, very pleased about the ukraine funding. >> this is a long, long time candy coming the president. six months ago asked me that money be made available for ukraine and the dithering that went on with speaker johnson and the republicans was almost tragic for the success of the ukraine. now, going forward as you just heard, it's not only the munitions, but it is the psychological support that comes from this particular funding source now the package

had four different elements. three of those four elements, ukraine, taiwan, the pacific as well as dealing with russian assets and tiktok. i voted for those. i did not vote for the assistance for for israel because of the way in which israel has been conducting the war in gaza, i fully support israel. think they have a right to defend themselves, but we've got 34,000 people killed in the palestinians killed in gaza, half of which are children. and there's no indication that netanyahu will change his tax the ics so going forward, i am very, very happy that the center will take up this bill on tuesday, and hopefully the president will sayyed it immediately thereafter. i know. and the conversations i've had with the military that the munitions are near ukraine border right now the congressman, as you know, speaker johnson had previously opposed ukrainian funding, and

my colleagues are reporting that the speaker got a briefing from the director of the cia, bill burns, and quote, johnson became increasingly convinced that the fate of western democracy was on his shoulders now, you're on the armed services committee. >> i know you can't get into classified details. >> but what is so startling about that intelligence that johnson would have seen about what russia and others may do. >> that johnson became so convinced he had to bring these packages to a vote well, the good news is it took a highly classified intelligence briefing for him to actually understand what's going on in the world the information that he received may have been some detail, but the general issue of what putin intends to do has been known for 2.5 years. >> put made it very clear when he began his invasion two-and-a-half years ago, and he intended to subjugate ukraine, prevented from becoming a western oriented country and certainly never

become part of nato. and he also said that it is his goal to re-establish the power of the soviet union. in other words, the warsaw pact well, thank you it's speaker johnson that finally, you understood what is happening and yes, indeed, it is a very critical issue ukraine falls and russia is at the doorstep of eastern european nato countries and they will put extraordinary, russia will put extraordinary pressure on those countries and do everything they can to break up the european union and the nato alliance so good well, after six half months, we got it done. >> well, one of the things that might be sure. >> go ahead, congressman. one of the things that might be going to ukraine now are these atacms, these longer-range missiles that are made by the us mark warner said that he

expects those to be heading to ukraine and soon ukrainians have been asking for them, begging them for a very long time. what practical impacts do you think? it though that weaponry may have on the frontlines well, certainly any weapon, any munition. >> i use going to be extremely important now because basically ukraine doesn't have the munitions. it's a five to one advantage on artillery that russia currently has. so the atacms, there longer-range they are precision guided missiles and they will be able to disrupt this supply lines that russia presently is using to send its troops and munitions into what is there a quest's been front so yes, you're going to be an important piece of it. but just as important, honore, the air defense systems. and those two will be forthcoming yeah there's a a lot of weaponry that ukraine

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anti-semitic incidents last year in the including harassment, assault, and vandalism. that is the highest since it started tracking data 45 years ago. national correspondent camila bernal joins us now from beverly hills camila, you've been speaking with rabbis about this horrifying trend. what do they say is happening hey, alex, they say they're seeing more and more of these incidents and they say they're worried, they're concerned burned gender sad, not just about their safety, but also the fact that this is a holiday where they know that there are hostages still in israel. >> and so everyone i talked to us told me that it is going to be a very difficult holiday. but despite that, they're willing and trying to open their doors to continue these traditions and to have a joyful for passover we helped me, ryan yeah these are the passover preparations at the hereon skis you've got your blue waves as a mother and a rabbi, some

people call them lego people. we call them israelites. sarah wronski knows this year the holiday will be different not only are many leaving empty seats at the table hostages, but those celebrating are also being told to be on alert dress her every day there all the time, and they're very, very real according to the fbi, anti-jewish hate crime cases tripled in the wake of the october 7 attack. >> and they are currently on alert for threats ahead of passover, we put out an alert to congregations, to schools, to organizations, agencies, anywhere, reduce, gather for us to be a little bit more vigilant. this here rabbi know a farkas is the president and ceo bo of the jewish federation, los angeles while he's also preparing for the seder, the organization he leaves is recommending people know who they invite into their homes, keep outdoor lights on, and report any incident or crime one of the saddest things

about being a jew in america today is that we have to pay for private security to express our first amendment right for large gatherings, cameras, an extra security they the norm in arisen years, and especially since october 7 the demand for our services increased that least like three to 400% the increase says 8-10 bazaars with david shields security is in part because of protests, campus threads, and middle east tensions causing a6 in the but don't use or how can help you. in 2023, almost it's 9,000 anti-semitic incidents have been tracked in the the highest number of incidents reported since the anti-defamation league began tracking them in the 19 there's increased phenomenally in a way that we can't even count anymore that hundreds of percentage points that it's increased. >> what have you seen?

>> i'll give you an example today a woman drove by my synagogue filming and shouting antiemetics lars. >> but despite the threats, the worry, the sadness at making equals, there will also joy grounding and having a seder and being celebration of your roots and your core and your heritage. this is a sign that we two will get through to the other side and the fbi director said that his remarks about safety were not intending to stir alarm, but he didn't note that it is a time to remain vigilant and everybody that i spoke to told me, look, it's the little things it's keeping that porch light on. >> it's making sure that you're familiar with the people that are coming into your house. they told me, yes. open the doors to your home for people to come and enjoy this, but just make sure that you are familiar with the people coming and hopefully you won't have any the incidents this holiday that's what they're hoping for. alex. >> all right. camila bernal in

beverly hills. thank you very much for that report. >> and with those tensions are running high during this war in gaza, jewish communities across the country are working to increase security and awareness, especially at those large gatherings. >> let's bring in juliette kayyem, cnn senior national security analysts and a former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security, juliette thank you so much for being with us on this really, really important topic. the fbi director chris wray, he says that hate crime investigations against jews have tripled since the october 7 hamas attack and the war so that has followed. what is your sense of this threat level against the jewish communities, particularly as we approach passover so there is no doubt that it is higher, exceptionally higher that the antisemitism has grown in leaps and bounds. >> just this is what i mean by anti-semitism. it is hatred towards jewish people targeted attacks towards the jewish community for being jewish. so we can put the politics of this to the sayyed that there is

real anti-semitism out there that is not just about physical harm and physical threats to the jewish community the numbers you hear can range extensively. so i want to go by the fbi numbers because various groups sometimes lump in a lot of other behavior, but the fbi numbers show us that we have the united states government defines anti-semitic hate crimes is three times greater, as you said, and it's just, it's, it's shocking. it is horrible and we have to focus on that because it is physical harm to the jewish community simply for being jewish and this is the this is passover juliette, there has been this flashpoint in the past few days at columbia university in new york an orthodox rabbi who was associated with university, he sent a message to jewish students orthodox jewish students, telling them that the campus is not safe and that they should go home immediately

until it is. >> but then we heard from the hilal center of barnard and columbia university saying that that students should stay. what's your take? >> of course? of course. i mean i was i have strong feelings about this. i think that the the conservative orthodox rabbi got ahead of the intelligence, got ahead of what the university is clearly trying to do. there's no one on ones. they're basically trying to stop all of these. so we have to have productive safety and security measures that don't go terrifying everyone was i'm gonna be honest. we do is outrageous. i was thrilled that hilal, the largest jewish organization for colombian bernard, came out and said no, i mean that this is, you have a group of students and within that group of percentage is discussing is hostile, has hatred no one's defending that. the university needs all you i want to step to take a step back here because we're entering graduation season. >> all university need proper

engagement with student organizations about what is considered safe if an unsafe protests they need to get stronger on access controls to these colleges and universities and set the rules of appropriate conduct where there is legitimate disagreements about a very difficult issue in the middle east that's not rocket science. >> we can do this now. but the idea that we're just going to throw up our hands and say all jewish kids leave colombia. it was not fair. i mean, honestly, and i was really pleased that heel well, sort of quashed it juliette kayyem, of course we are wishing all of our jewish friends very happy and safe pass over the coming days and hopefully everything goes off without any kind of incident. >> we appreciate your expertise and your thoughts on this subject. thank you for joining us today. >> still ahead. vice president kamala harris is taking on more of an active role in the campaign an after a rocky start

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harris is carving out her role for the 2024 presidential campaign as the lead prosecutor for joe biden. she's taking on issues that democrats believe will play front and center with voters when they head to the polls in november. we're joined now by cnn senior reporter isaac to veer to discuss harris is rough start earlier on at the white house. but now i've kind of hitting her stride on the campaign trail. you've been out there on the campaign trail. you have new reporting. would it be? have you been hearing and seeing well, look, i was in arizona and california and nevada with her in the last couple of days. >> and what you see out of harris is a much looser, more directed, more energized way of going about it she is very clearly relishing going like the old prosecutor taking on down trump, making the case directly against him. for example, was her idea to start talking about but how trump was directly responsible for the arizona abortion ban being upheld. that that's law. they're putting the blame directly on him calling that and other trump abortion bans see this very different mode

out of her and when i asked her about it, we were sitting down in las vegas on monday. she said india that being out on the campaign trail, she finds very liberating. that's how he feels about it. that it's getting out there and talking to people, but just being out in the mix in a way that is really different from what her first couple of years on the job have been, you mentioned abortion among the other big issues that she's been tackling. our guns and gaza. to what extent are you finding her connecting not just with democratic voters but those who buy me a bit more on the fence. >> well, look, the biden campaign has a strained change paradise. there are definitely voters who still don't like kamala harris and don't like the prospect of her potentially ascending to the presidency should joe biden win a second term and something happened to him? but then there are swaths of voters that clearly are connecting more to her on guns, as you mentioned, on abortion, of they like her a little bit more on gaza. and the president nobody is very happy about what's going on. and it's wrong guys at the moment. but on student loan relief on all

of those things that she is the messenger that people seem to want to hear from more in key groups, younger people, black voters latino voters. one of the points that was made to me as that for latino voters, gun-control, especially post uvalde, it's been a very important issue and is registering in a real way and that is something the biden campaign is hoping that she will continue to be speaking out on. and when you wrote about her taking on this prosecutorial role, you said that she has found a chance to go on attack against trump. >> very liberating. do you think that's because she came from that that line of work she was the california attorney general issue with district attorney. she was attorney general. that's how she thinks. i've spent a lot of time with her over the years when she ran for president herself, 2019, she talked about being a prosecutor for president. and you see some of that coming back. she says, now, i like facts. i was a prosecutor. i want it let's talk but the facts let's talk about the logic of how these things happen here. that's you. she said to me in the interview, but the other thing here that is going on is that

she feels like there is this goal now that she has and it makes it easier to think about things. remember the vice presidency, it's been a tough fit for her in some ways because it is the sum morphous role what is the vice president? the job doesn't really require anything other than waking up every morning and making sure that the president is still ebel to do his job. well, she's done that, but fitting in the other ways, it's been a little bit the tougher. this is go to these people, get them on board, get them to connect, make sure that you're building up toward november. and in her mind, hopefully, that that leads to her and joe biden we re-elected to a second term. >> it really has been a fascinating evolution. thank you so much for that reporting. here. appreciate it and still had music and the environment meet and a new cnn original film we hear from nominated dj and environmental toxicologist g to g about blue carbon major secret weapon in the fight against the climate crisis here in the cnn newsroom every weekday morning, cnn five

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blue carbon. >> they're like ten times better at it than the amazon rain forest for example, those ecosystems are mango for us seagrass meadows and salt marshes. we were taking field recordings throughout the whole film. and then i took all those field recordings and made a song out of it essentially, and you get to hear that song at the end of the fell, i want to make a new anthem for nature by recording the sounds of coastal habitats that we don't value enough you play these and festivals yeah. yeah. how do you connect your music audience with what you care about as a biologist, as an ecologist, incorporating those sounds automatically gives me something to talk about because people really care and they're interested. there's your j to g, the dj persona but then there's j to the biologist and that's a paradox at times given the footprint, the energy use ship festivals, and all of that, well, it definitely is a paradox like i'm a turing dj. i have to fly to my gigs and so

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