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return to paste in high school in utah, where it was filmed and it comes after a year long campaign led by students to get baked to return to the school before it's demolished 40 years. >> i mean, that just blows my mind. your desire to have me return? and you talked me into it. you know, i i think it's great to see that kind of commitment to any thing. i also think that it's amazing the power that this movie has had to just kind of bring people together oh, so far the students also contributed 5,000 resource kits to bacon's foundation, which provides essentials to communities in need all right, hello again,
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everyone. >> thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. >> all right. we're less than 24 hours away now from witness singh history tomorrow, opening statements began and the trial of defendant donald trump, the first former president ever to be on trial. for criminal charges. trump well, walk into a manhattan courtroom tomorrow morning, where he will hear the state's case against him. he is facing dozens of charges related to an alleged hush money payment to adult film actress stormy daniels made before the 2016 election this is the first of four criminal cases against trump to go to trial. 12 jurors and six alternates will decide trump's fate. here's cnn's brian todd ready to empaneled jurors have been excused from former president trump's hush money trial, underscoring just how crucial the six alternate jurors are, who've just been seated in a case of this length& in a high-profile case, the alternates are as
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significant as the regular jury panel, because there's a very high likelihood and probability in this case that one or more of those alternates are going to end up on the journey. the alternate juror is there to take over a spot on the 12 member regular jury. if one of the regulars has to drop out of the trial one of the reasons could be illness they could have a family emergency or something else could happen like they can't follow the court's instruction not to post things on social media. >> court veterans say the life in limbo of an alternate juror can be strange, unsatisfying, and tougher than it may see. >> let's difficult to to be very present and to really focus as much as jurors might need to with the idea in the back of their mind that they might not really need to deliberate at the end of it. all but as one alternate juror in police officer derek chauvin is murder trial said being an alternate doesn't mean the case weighs on you any less heavily every night when i would come home i felt
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exhausted. >> it was pretty draining, pretty emotional and that juror didn't even know she was an alternate until the end of the trial in some cases, the judges purposely don't inform the jury which of them are alternates and which are regulars until they start deliberating so they don't have that issue of knowing. >> i might not have to deliver aid. do i really? planning to listen to this? >> there are six alternate jurors for trump's trial, while that may seem like a lot for a complex and highly charged case, it may not be enough all right. he appears to have pulled the gloves off, council during oj simpson's lengthy murder trial, ten regular jurors were dismissed for failing to disclose something allegedly passing a note or considering a book deal, or simply telling the judge i can't take it anymore ten alternate took their place. what happens if the trump trial runs out of alternates would be up to the defendant whether or not he would want to consent to a verdict with 11 jurors, but i don't believe that he would do that in this case. and you would have a mistrial. >> the alternates are always in court during the actual trial,
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but don't join the final deliberations unless they're needed. what happens if a regular juror has to leave the case during deliberations. >> what happens then is the real jury has to basically start over their deliberations. they have to deliberate as though they hadn't done the deliberations they'd done with the first with the original juror and start over with the alternate juror. what's the best advice for an alternate juror trial consultant leslie ellis says, try to forget you're an alternate, participate in everything you can with the other jurors, pay attention to every bit of the evidence. >> pretend that you're one of the first 12 because you very well may at the end brian todd, cnn, washington all right. >> let's discuss all of this further with retired california superior court judge ladoris cordell. she's also the author of her honore, my life on the bench. what works, what's broken, and how to change it. a judge cordell, welcome back. >> thank you so much for having me. >> so tomorrow is a major step in this historic trial of
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donald trump. what needs to be established in tomorrow's opening statements? >> well i'm glad you called it a statement because some people erroneously call it an opening argument. it is not an argument. the opening statement is the first time that the jury gets to hear from the lawyers aside from jury selection. so the opening statement is a roadmap for the jury in an effective opening statement pigment tells a story. why? because everybody loves a story. so the prosecution will go first, followed by the defendants. trump's lawyer they don't have to give their opening statement right after that they can wait until the entire prosecution case has done. it rarely happens that way, but it could so what's critical in the opening statement is that the lawyer who's giving the statement to the jury has to read the room maimed. the goal is to persuade to persuade the jurors. so if the jurors eyes start to glaze over if there's yawning and fidgeting the lawyers losing
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them. so my advice to these lawyers, they're season, they really don't need my advice, but it's make your points. don't be redundant and then sit down and also do not promise evidence that you are not going to produce during the trial. and if you do that the other side is going to have a field he'll day saying a said they're going to do all this and they haven't done it, and they'll do that in the closing arguments so there is a fine line fredricka between a statement and opening statement and an argument and frequently, lawyers cross that line. they do it very carefully. they start to argue the case instead of basically saying this is what we're going to show with these witnesses. occasionally their objections that happened during opening statements, but it's very unusual. most lawyers don't do it in this case. i think they're going to be a lot of objections from trump's lawyers as the statement let's are being
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made. and by the way, it isn't just statements. they have every right if they want to use audio visual effects, they can have a monitoring showing photos of witnesses. they want to they're going to have testify. they can have quotations from depositions all of this again, has to tell a story to get the the jurors to keep them very interested and get the jurors to like them so finally i seriously doubt that donald trump will be able to contain himself during the prosecutors opening statement. he has to sit there quietly, not show any emotion when the prosecutor starts talking about what they intend to prove and all of these allegations against him, which do not make him look good, in which he has consistently denied. so if he fails to contain themselves during the opening statements, if he starts saying something or are conducted some self in a matter that is absolutely inappropriate or disruptive, then you know what he'll be facing a contempt charge in
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addition to the ten contempt violations, he's going to face on tuesday. >> oh, well, let's talk about that tuesday potentially. i and you mentioned his attorneys could object to some of the things that the prosecutors say and the openings statements. so that too could be the urging of a very frustrated donald trump that could produce some fireworks. but as it pertains to tuesday, and the judge, juan more considering the prosecutors multiple claims of trump violating a gag order should more sean have had a hearing on this sooner than tuesday will this be an interruption of flow of information to the jurors you talk about reading the room after hearing opening statements tomorrow and then tuesday, there's going to be this hearing on these potential contempt charges. >> how does that go? >> right. and that's a very good point. you've made the contempt hearing will not be in the presence of the jury. and this is based upon ten
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violations that are alleged by the prosecutor. and this is criminal contempt not civil contempt. civil contempt basically is, you have not comply with an order because you just haven't done something and usually comes up and divorce cases where one spouse highs the assets of another and the judge has produced the money and the person says, no, the judge locks up the person until the person says this is where i put the money. so basically in civil contempt, the person has the key holds the key to the jail cell. all they have to do is give up the information criminal is different. the act has been done. >> so the allegation here and criminal is that he has violated the gag order ten times by posting on social media and posting on his website. >> so this is out of the hearing of the jury. >> it is a criminal proceeding. >> the prosecutor has to prove each violation beyond a reasonable doubt, and actually, if the defendant also has a
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right, trump has a right to assert the fifth amendment against incrimination and not say anything at all. >> oh my god. and then case is proven then the judge then impose his punishment. >> okay. >> last three smoke use. and judge, russia needs to tell the former president possibly to bring it toothbrush next time he violates the gag order. on the other hand, does the judge have to be particularly careful not to take any beit? so does bag or gave the defense room for potential appeal later? >> yeah. the toothbrush punishment is still out there, but the the law basically is to impose a fine.& here they're asking $4,000 per violation and that's what the law says. and then the judge also has the option in other imprisonment. so at this point this is violations that are what are called indirect contempt, meaning it occurred outside the view of the judge. that's why the case will then have to be proven. and if the judge finds
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that happens in the judge has the options of first imposing a fine and a fine is not going to do much for donald trump to deter you want with the punishment deter the conduct you want to punish, but also deter the conduct a finds not going to turn because he'll just go to his maga base and raise the money to pay a fine, but it is the first step. and then this judge is not he's not someone who's just going to have that donald trump take control the courtroom. that's not going to happen so that is the next step up and the next step is and it's right in the new york code is imprisonment. he can be sentenced to jail time. and is that entirely possible? of course, it is. >> so if if there is this indirect contempt and outside of the view of the judge, and then there's direct contempt if he acts out in the courtroom. the judge is not going to have any option but to have a jail cell telling to bring the toothbrush and maybe that will get through to mr.
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trump. wow, fascinating. i cannot wait to hear your point of view after what could be a very fascinating week, even though cameras are not in the courtroom, we've got reporters will be in the courtroom, who will be able to give us detail of the goings on our judge ladoris cordell. thank you so much. >> welcome and of course, you can watch cnn for special live coverage of the trump hush money trial tomorrow, 9:00 a.m. eastern on cnn and streaming on max amid ongoing protests on campus today, an orthodox rabbi associated with new york's columbia university is warning jewish students the campus is not safe and they should quote return home until it is tensions remain high at columbia after several days of pro-palestinian protests and arrest the unrest follows an appearance by the university's president on capitol hill last week cnn's polo sandoval is joining us right now. >> polo, what's the situation on campus so for a gesture, we
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had opportunity to actually step on campus, which since last week's incident when by pd had to be called in at the request of the president of columbia university, had to detain well over 100 students. >> we have seen an encampment on campus. there for on the south lawn continue, if anything, it's actually grow. now, i had an opportunity to speak to a student on campus yesterday. that's been observing the situation every single day says it has been peaceful and the university hasn't had any sort of need to interject. so the question is, how long will that in cabinet be allowed to remain in place? but now in a separate vein& a conversation that would art jake tapper had opportunity to have with a rabbi associated with colombia's orthodox union jewish learning initiative that rabbis sending a message from a personal account so about 300 mainly orthodox students on campus warning that is likely a good idea for them to return home. in the conversation, the rabbi had with a colleague, jake tapper, out to read you a portion of what he what this rabbi said and the reason why
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he issued this warning to some of the students on campus rabbi writing in a response to the scene on campus last night to just horrific videos of protesters on campus calling for jews to be killed. just off campus. jews being yelled at to go back to poland, text messages. i'm getting, he writes constantly from jewish students about how unsafe they feel the rabbi wrote, i thought it is important to state the severity of the situation now, adding to the rabbis message, we've actually also heard from other jewish organizations on campus that feel that the university is simply we're not doing enough to make sure that jewish students feel comfortable and safe on campus out of this sounds familiar at all. this is because this is part of the larger conversation that we've already had for person several months where you have people on all sides of the ongoing debate and then protests, feeling that the university is not doing enough because what we heard from palestinian supporting crowds just off-campus here they continue to call for the campus
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still basically defined divest some of those companies directly get linked to israel. so it really, it's all sides what we've been hearing today. but the reality is for the university, not just here, but throughout the country, they are now grappling with how to deal so with intensifying demonstrations, not just on-campus, but as you see behind me, off campus as well, fred. >> all right. >> paula sandoval thank you so much president biden is urging the senate to pass a critical foreign aid bill quickly as ukrainian president zelenskyy warrants his troops need weapons. now how this aid will help on the ground next so this playoff, some great teammates trust each other. >> we're gonna do a trust falls, stand up, trust what you sent me up doc i've told you use a dummy we talk about cash
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senate the senate is expected to vote on tuesday afternoon, or at least begin voting that according to senate majority leader chuck schumer. >> and it is expected to pass once it does, it will go to the president for his signature and in a statement on saturday, the president saying that he urges the senate to do it quickly to send it to his desk, to sign it into law so that we can quickly send weapons and equipment to ukraine to meet their urgent battlefield needs. of course, the white house has been asking for this, these funds for months now, often framing this as in the interest of the united states as a national security priority. and over the last several months, making the point that these funds were urgent and necessary for ukraine especially in the last few weeks when we did see battlefield losses in ukraine, the white house was putting that squarely at the feet of republicans and congress saying that these funds needed to pass. we saw that happen yesterday in the white house applauding that effort, and i'm told by a white house official that on saturday
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afternoon president biden jumped on the phone with speaker johnson and house minority leader jeffries separately to thank them for getting this supplemental pass to the finish line. and of course, fred us officials have consistently made the point that the stakes were high here and they have been waiting for this moment and defense secretary austin, in a statement on saturday saying that this package could surge lifesaving security assistance to ukraine, support israel and increase the flow of humanitarian aid to gaza. of course, there's still process since then needs to play out here, but there is a high hopes that they can get these funds and get them out quickly. >> all right. priscilla alvarez in washington. thanks so much for ukraine. this aid package includes $23 to replenish us weaponry and almost 14 billion for advanced weapons systems. while israel will see more than 5 billion for missile defense, including its iron dome system. let's bring in now fred pleitgen in kyiv, jeremy diamond in jerusalem. fred, do you first ukraine's as it needs weapons now, do we have a sense
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of how quickly the us would be able to get arms into the hands of soldiers. there after the us senate vote in a president's signature will the feeling here in kyiv is that all that could happen very quickly. >> obviously, everybody here in the ukrainian capital and really across the front lines and across this country is looking forward to tuesday, hoping that things will move very quickly than a lot of the things that ukrainians believed that they need are already stage with a us military in places in europe. and so therefore, once a decision is made, they believe that those that gear could be brought here to ukraine very quickly. and then obviously disseminated to the battlefield very quickly as well. there's two main things that the ukrainians are talking about, and certainly priscilla touched on that a little bit. they say that air defense systems are extremely important, right now, not just for the front line, all they are very important there to combat the russian air force, but also to cities like the one that i am in right now, the russians have drastically increased their aerial attacks
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on ukrainian cities and especially on ukrainian energy infrastructure over the past couple of weeks, really hurting the ukrainians. and one of the things president of this country said volodymyr zelenskyy is he said, look, in some cases, ukrainians were not able to fight off russian missiles because they simply did not have the interceptor missiles to do that because they haven't gotten any new ones from the united states. so in every respect, the ukrainians are saying all this needs to happen quickly. i was able today here in key of a to speak with volodymyr klitschko. of course, the former world heavyweight boxing champion, the brother of the mayor of key of n, someone who's actually very much involved in the defense of this country. here's what he had to say about why this aid package is so important. let's listen, it as equipment potential for change, the frontline. >> so we can then ukraine defend us better. it sends also very important signal to put in russia that you're not going to win this war, this senseless war that has been started over
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two-and-a-half years ago, almost 2.5 years ago it sends a message of motivation for us, ukrainians, that we are not alone it did send also for republicans and democrats in the, in this critical moments to stand together and make this decision together. to protect democracy in this world and fredreka, just to show how important this aid is to the ukrainians, they are acknowledging and the russians are saying that they took a village from the ukrainians in the east of the country that is very important for the defense of some of those areas on the eastern front. >> and they say one of the reasons why that happened is because they are running short on artillery, ammunition. fredricka. >> all right. fred pleitgen inke. thanks so much. let's go to jeremy diamond now in tel aviv so jeremy, like ukraine, israel now has billions more in military support. but it's still fighting a war in gaza.
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the war cabinet is meeting today. what are they focusing on? >> well, there are a few pressing issues for the war cabinet to discuss tonight. and one of them, according to an israeli official, is the hostage situation in gaza before this work cabinet meeting began tonight, we heard from the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in a video statement on the eve of passover, referring to the plight of the hostages passover is of course, a holiday rife with symbolism of freedom. in particular.& so a lot of israelis across the country right now are marking this passover with an empty a chair at their passover, seder is noting the fact that 133 hostages, some of whom we know are dead, still remain held hostage captive in the gaza strip. the israeli prime minister vowing that israel will soon land, quote additional and painful blows and increase military and political pressure on hamas in order for to secure the release of the hostages. and that appears to be the second part of this cabinet meeting, and
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that is to review military plans for the next phase of israel's of military operations inside of the gaza strip. we know that today the israeli military's chief of staff general herzi halevi, approved plans for the continuation of the war in gaza. they are not explicitly referring to a ground offensive in rafah, but it seems very clear that that is what these military leaders, as well as the political leadership are talking about. how do we understand that the war cabinet was set to review plans this evening of for the continuation of the war. therefore, likely talking about the future of this ground offensive in rafah, which of course we know last week they were supposed to start evacuating that southernmost city of gaza where more than 1 million palestinians are currently leaving living that was delayed as israel prepared its response to a ron's military attack on israel last weekend, but with that out of the way now, it does appear that rafat welcome next now is exactly when that will start friday jeremy diamond and fred pleitgen, thanks to both of you all right.
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>> after a yesterday's votes in us house of representatives georgia republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is now calling on gop speaker mike johnson to design. and today she is threatening to introduce a motion to vacate his speakership if he doesn't step down betrayed america. he's betrayed republican voters under his leadership, his past, the democratic agenda, the biden administration's policies and fully funded them we're going to fight in congress to do everything we can to stop this type of unit party leadership. mike johnson's speakership is over. he needs to do the right thing to resign and allow us to move forward in a controlled process. he doesn't do so. he will be vacated the georgia hardliner is one of at least three republicans who have said they will support a move to oust johnson, who's majority is so slim me. he can't afford to lose any republicans on a party-line vote. should greene
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president has faced legal jeopardy over an alleged fair cnn's jessica dean has more donald trump claims the prosecution against him in the hush money trial is unprecedented issues. nothing like this has ever happened before. been anything like it while it is true, trump is the first former president does and trial against criminal charges another well-known politician had a similar story play out in the past. john edwards obviously was prosecuted for the same thing. and justice department failed acquitted on one a miss trial and the others, but they decided not to proceed in 2011, then failed democratic presidential candidate john edwards faced as six count indictment four hi julie accepting and using campaign contributions to cover up an extramarital affair and hide his mistress and their child from the public while edwards ran for president, while i do not believe i did anything illegal or ever
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thought i was doing anything illegal. >> i did an awful, awful lot that was wrong. >> the jury acquitted edwards on one charge and split on the other five in. the justice department to ultimately dropped the case. >> well, the election interference and it's got to stop. it's a third world country. >> trump is charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal payments made to hide an alleged affair with an adult film star and influence the 26th seen election, trump denies the affair and has pleaded not guilty, but trump's former attorney, michael cohen, swore under oath that he made the payments in order to affect the outcome of the election cohen though, was convicted of perjury in a separate case. the edwards case had its own star witness, a close aide to the former senator who testified to helping edwards keep that a fair secret, but prosecutors do not prove their claim. the cover-up was about the election. the woman with whom edwards had the affair, real hunter told cnn, edwards did
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not want the truth to hurt his wife the issues for internal family issues, trying to hide it from elizabeth. >> i'm trying not to hurt anybody. he didn't want to hurt elizabeth. or his family. >> a key difference could be the timing of the alleged affairs and subsequent payoffs which might help spell out the payments intent edwards affair occurred during the 2008 campaign with at least one payment happening after the election was over long after edwards dropped out of the race in trump's case, the alleged affair happened in 2006 years before he ran for president, but the payoff is alleged to have been made just two weeks before the 2016 election persecution. and this is about me, but perhaps the stark is difference is how each man reacted to their cases. >> there is no one else responsible for my sans none of the people who came to court and testified are responsible.
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arrow more liebermann at the pentagon and this cnn hello all right, that was the video for fortnight featuring post malone. i know it's kinda strange getting used to it without the tattoos on his face. and it's the first thing from a taylor swift's new double album that 31 attract double album dropped friday and fans have weighed in all weekend long calling the tortured poets department the beginning of another taylor era, according to billboard, the album generated 243.4 million streams on its first day, doubling the number of streams from taylor's last released, 1989, taylor's fleurs version. i'd like to bring in now cultural
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commentator and author of the upcoming novel. okay, computer cj farley will have to have you back to talk about that. that's an interesting title. >> all right, cj, good to see you good to see you too. so i'm going to talk about i know. i wonder how many times do you even listening to it you have more time than i can count. >> but when it's a really good album, it's actually a joy to listen to repeatedly because you see new things each time. that's one reason why the taylor swift has so many fans because he puts secret messages in their people know that certain songs like a fift song on an album. will speak to them in a certain kind of way. and because she has almost novelistic depth in her work, in that's why people care about her so much. and the talk about it so much. and why i'm here talking about are all over again. >> oh, so well sad. i mean, i think all weekend long people have been listed it seemed to it over and over again. i haven't been actually listening to her fans as well the comments and the music on taylor's sirius xm channel. and i'm hearing descriptors
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like it's deeply personal. she allows herself to be more vulnerable than ever before and that it's sad and empowering. i'm really quoting all hello listeners. i've been hearing a while listening to her music i mean, you kinda put it very succinctly how she really is a storyteller. i mean, it's like a little mini novels all the way through what is it about her technique in bringing these songs, these stories together and and sharing it with the public. does that kind of you know, justify why it's been streamed some were like 240 million times over and over again in just this weekend alone. >> well, maybe it's the church had poets department. they should have called it the billionaire poets department because of how many units she's moved. i mean, it's going to end up being or pr 14th number one album. that's a record that no one else has achieved other than jay-z, when that happens. but she told me
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once what her songwriting technique is and what she does is she doesn't write about the road. he doesn't write about hotels. the thing things that a lot of other superstar musicians fall into. she writes about her feelings, help people make her feel, and how she wishes people would feel about her. those kinds of things are timeless. those are the kinds of things that everyone can identify with. so even though she gets bigger and bigger and even more of a superstar you can still identify with her very human feelings, feelings, you caption, its song because we all have emotions and tell us what has them too, no matter how rich and famous she gets. >> yeah. and you said you've been hearing as you listen to some of this music over and over again you hear new things and i have heard it from her fans who say they all know about this breakup of a relationship over a six-year relationship,& that in so many of the songs on this album, she
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is talking about that and she's talking about other experiences, maybe for tat that she's had with other celebrity pretty is i mean, how do you think she approached the writing and the producing process for this album here's one thing to be careful about what taylor swift, as people think vanilla but we don't really know her& the way that artists go about writing these kinds of so-called confessional type albums is it change things and so the characters are writing about may reflect certain things of life. >> but they may not really be real. i mean, marvin gaye did the same kind of thing when he wrote the album here, my dear, which he wrote to help settle a divorce case against his ex-wife on back in 1978 and the songs were maybe get the marriage and the dissolution of the marriage. but they're also about other things that were i mean, you think a sylvia plath of poder wrote the bell jar and of course that was about her experiences working for
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mademoiselle, but they weren't really because she made a plot, the characters and changed all the facts. and so universal story, maybe it's about here, mace, about something more the same thing it's true of taylor swift songs when a song with the alchemy, with all the references to winning and things that seem to be about football, maybe is about travis kelce, but maybe it's about something larger and mortar universals. >> so people shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that each song is about some specific person that should realize at taylor swift has larger issues on our mind she's changed things and this is really about everything that we, as people go through and not just about specific things, about taylor swift, you may have seen on twitter or x, or someplace else. >> do you think i mean this album kind of exhibits a type of maturity in her as a woman, not just as say, you know, song stressor, a writer and producer, but, but overall the tapestry of who she's become liquor zachary, what's interesting is pretty years for
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decades, male rockers have been writing about women and they don't understand where the talk about the way women look, but they don't really understand what's going on in their heads. i mean i'm sure you know that we listened to a lot of rocks. i'm doing. that person doesn't really get me. they only the sort of seeing the outside tell us what yets guys. >> i think that's what's so terrified are some menn listen to her because not only does she have the talent to write about the human experience chest specificity in terms of the menn she's talked to and knows and writes about them in unflagging unmercifully detail. >> and that's what so scary, an interesting and fascinating. and also her vocabularies keeps expanding and you look on this album, she is use words like saboteurs and aesthetic and dopamine and senate file. and impressionist, an empath words you don't necessarily here on top 40 songs. taylor swift cadbury's broad and deep. >> that all gets into her music. >> i concur on that. they were words i was like, you don't usually hear some of this word choice in other songs, but yeah, it's, it's pretty
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amazing to hear. and i'll keep listening because i haven't heard it all. cj farley, did to see you. thank you so much. thank you. >> and we'll be right back to the world with my music now, i want to focus on what's happening to our planet i'm going to visit coastal communities that have a new ally in the fight against climate change this is blue carbon is blue carbon we just need to plant and we need to protect nature will do the rest let's cnn filled tonight at nine now, adt professionally installs google nest products you're all set on this system. we should go with the most trusted name and home security as the intelligence of google, you have a home with no worries brought to you by adt transfer your ira or your old 401 k to
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19% over just the next 26 years due to the impact of record-breaking heat waves, severe floods and wildfires, researchers say the financial pain in the short term will be unavoidable but they also say immediate actions to reduce climate change could stem some losses in the long run. >> join me right now is benji backer the executive chairman and founder of the american conservation coalition. he's also the author of a new book called the the conservative environmentalist common sense solutions for a sustainable future. benji great to see you great to be here. thanks for having me. >> wonderful. okay, so this is depressing, but help break down for me. you know, how it is that climate change over a long period of time is going to mean i as an individual, i'm going to spend more money. i am more likely to be a bit more poor in a very short term. >> how and why does that happen?
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>> unfortunately, this is not the first report that says this. i mean, you look at it's already making that sort of impact on americans and people around the world. you look at the insurance prices and the cost to rebuild homes in places like florida, the effects of climate change are affecting us already in an very economically harmful way. but i think one of the things that i think about when a report like this is brought to my attention is that the reality that it will cause somebody more money in a year or ten years, or 100 years doesn't really matter to them if they're living paycheck to paycheck. now. and that's why my book and through the work, as i've traveled across hundreds of community he's i've seen that the only solutions environmentally that will actually work for people and get the political buy-in that we need from both sides are the solutions that actually lower the cost of doing life as a human being. because that's the only thing that people can implement. they're not going to pay more than not going to do more because they're worried about losing money later because of climate change. they're worried what about th here and now and our politicians and our businesses have an obligation to pursue solutions that help people now,
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instead of forcing them to do something different because of something that might happen in future, in the future. >> so what might some of those solutions for the here and now be? >> well, i think one of the key things is doing more american energy of all energy sources. i mean, it is cheaper and more environmentally friendly for us to do energy in the united states, energy production. so that means more natural gas in the short-term, that means more wind, more solar, more nuclear, more hydro-power, more of everything. because not only will that draw down carbon emissions as we've already started to do in this country, which is really important to keep, keep doing, but it also allows people to spend less on their utility bill. people cannot afford to pay more for the energy bill. in california, energy prices have skyrocketed& new york, energy prices have skyrocketed,& it's one of the main reasons that people are leaving as those increased costs of life if and so, i think having closer to home energy is a really big, big part of it. i also think the resiliency measures of restoring ecosystems along or coastlines that the effects of hurricanes and sea level rise
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or less damaging. and that also draws down carbon emissions. those are some really common sense one's, another one is forest management, preventing some of the worst sending forest fires that have cost our country so much money just by clearing out some dead brush and not allowing them to go up in flames. and such a massive way, those are just a few ideas that aren't, they're not going to draw down carbon emissions significantly, but they're also not going to equip they're not going to force people to pay more to live their lives and it will make it positive impact. >> all right, the here and now benji backer. thank you so much thanks for having me and we'll be right back the white house correspondents dinner live saturday at seven eastern khan, cnn in three seconds, what is couple will share a perfect moment but we got to sell their houses. >> well, almost perfect. don't worry, just sell directly to open door and closing a matter of days when life's doors open, we'll handle the house freeze, dryness, breakage new dove ten
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