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you suffered a stroke on monday de and yet you're sitting here tonight, part of the reason you want to come in with to share that information but also to talk about some real health concerns. so before i let you go, i do want to give you a moment to do that and to share with our viewers why that's so important to you, because it's personal responsibility and i'm i'm supposed to act properly i'm supposed to know what is right, what is wrong. i was very active in getting people vaccinated during covid. i've been very active in a nonpartisan way in trying to teach people what's the right thing to do. >> and then i behave badly and i suffer for it and so i looked people right now, take your medications, do what your doctors tell you to do and we have to take personal responsibility in this country. >> we can no longer blame other people, no longer say is their fault. it's my fault. i got it wrong. behave properly and do the right thing and we can save our country. >> let's see if this starts. i said maybe on a better track, frank, i'm glad you're doing
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well. glad felt well enough to be here tonight. continue that road to recovery. thank you. thank you. >> thanks to all of you. for joining us. ac30 60 starts right now tonight are 36012 jurors, six alternates. >> now, just three days away from making history as the first american to ever to decide the guilt or innocence of a former president united states. also, we're following breaking news about explosions reportedly five at a base used by pro iranian fighters in iraq. this is new video just in all just a night after israel's response to missile and drone attack. and later how house speaker mike johnson's active by partisanship with democrats to pass aid to israel, ukraine, and more is being treated as betrayal by some radical republicans. >> good evening. thanks for joining us at the end of the historic, but also harrowing day in and around new york city courtroom or opening statements in the first trump criminal trial are now set for monday historic for what are by now familiar but still astonishing reasons if former president facing felony charges for the first time ever harrowing in
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that a deeply troubled man used the occasion has set himself on fire outside the courthouse tonight. all 18 jurors and alternates had been chosen. an appeals court judge declined to pause the trial for defense motion to change the venue the former president who yesterday complained the trial was keeping him off the campaign trail, complained today that it's moving too fast. >> we just had another hearing and the droughts tax and my name is just long before a lot of people thought, did you want such as go to do go as fast as possible? histories and zafar, my reasons or what he says, it now appears all systems are go the trial will begin monday. we're now from cnn's kara scannell. so what happened in today's proceedings? >> so anderson as a proceeded through jury selection trump at times look bored. other times he looked really engaged again, craning his neck to look at the jurors when his lawyers are asking them their opinion of the former president, we were still inside the courthouse
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when we started to get word that the man outside had set himself on fire. now the judge had left the bench, trump was still in the courtroom standing. we saw a secret service agent didn't walk over him to talk to him that this was just moments after those final five alternates were selected and told to return monday for opening statements we have our full panel that announcement from judge juan wir schon after jury selection concluded 18 manhattan nights, 12 jurors and six alternates. now seated there's any good to go now, so this is going on in the week, and this will go on for another four or five weeks. very unfair. >> trump appeared board much of the trial de four as attorneys on both sides probe potential jurors until they filled the remaining five alternate seats moments after the full jury was picked, a bizarre and tragic moment outside court as a man set himself on fire authorities say he was previously known to the police. and while they are searching for any domestic terror connections, that is not believed to have been the
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motivation in court. a handful of perspective jurors became emotional. one was excused after she told the judge she had anxiety and was worried as a trial goes on, more people could know she's part of the jury saying, i might not be able to be completely fair and not emotional. so that concerns me. another was dismissed after she began crying, saying, i'm sorry, i thought i could do this. i wouldn't want someone who feels this way to judge my case either. i don't want you to feel i've wasted anyone's time. this is so much more stressful than i thought a third with sent home after noting she was feeling anxiety and self-doubt as she listened to a line of questioning about the credibility of witnesses at the defense table, trump's set flipping through papers with charts, photos, and graphics. he whispered and passed notes with his lawyers and at some points was hunched over with his elbows on the desk prosecutors susan ha finger started off questioning potential jurors, telling them this is not about mr. trump being a former president. it's not about his being a candidate for the presidency. it's only
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about whether the evidence proves he's guilty during her presentation. trump lean back in his chair at one point, his eyes closed trump's attorney, susan necklace focused on bias against the former president. she told those in the jury box, you all bring biases and you particularly bring biases about someone who is as publicly and outspoken as president trump. there's nobody that doesn't know him in this room in the afternoon, the court moved to a routine hearing to determine how much trump's legal history the prosecution will be allowed to ask him about if he testifies which he said he plans to. prosecutors argued they should be allowed to question trump about the findings in the e jean carroll defamation case, among others, despite trump's attorneys strong objection. the former president shook his head as the prosecution spoke about how he defamed carroll when will the judge actually decide if prosecutors can ask the former president about his past legal cases so, judge number sean
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said that he would rule on this on monday, likely before opening statements get underway, know trump's lawyers also tried, again to try to learn who the prosecutions first witnesses, who they expect a call after openings prosecutor said that he would give them the name on sunday, but if it showed up on social media, it would be the last time anderson peers can help. thanks, joining us now is johnny jones the third former chief judge for the us middle district court of pennsylvania with me here is john miller, former new york deputy police commissioner for intelligence and counter terrorism. >> senior legal analyst elie honig and jury consultant jill huntley, taylor. so first of all, we're waiting on the judge to rule about what they can ask them about how much they can ask about past cases. when do you think that's going to happen? and how likely is it they're going to get everything they want. >> so i think it's going to happen monday morning, probably before openings. the test here is not whether the other information that prosecutors might want to cross-examine trump about show that he's a terrible guy. that in fact is supposed to be not the purpose. the purpose is to show that
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he's dishonest, that he lacks trustworthiness. so if you look at the various things prosecutors are trying to get in, i think the judge will allow prosecutors to ask him about the civil fraud trial, perhaps defaming e. jean carroll, then you get into sort of more distinct, separate stuff like the frivolous lawsuit against hillary clinton feels like a stretch to me. so i think the judge is going to do what we've seen him do quite a lot of which is a little bit for the prosecution a little bit for the defense. and then that'll inform donald trump's decision whether he's going to testify. i am still a solid absolutely not. but this may further that decision. >> joe jones, do you see anything wrong with the speed or the proceedings so far? >> no, i don't see anything wrong at all. anderson and as i said last evening, i think any responsible judge is going to try to move this case forward. you have to be concerned about the jurors time and the outside noise that's taking place. i commend judge merchan for getting seeing the jury picked. this week. i don't see that
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that creates a problem at all. the perception may be that it's going too fast. this is typical of a trial. when, you know, you're going to be seated for maybe a month or month-and-a-half you need to get busy. i mean, you're taking time out of people's lives and it only makes sense to get started. >> jill, we heard about potential jurors crying, getting emotional, talking about a lot of people talking about stress and anxiety. can you just talk about the stress i mean, anybody might feel on a jury, but particularly this yeah and there's a lot. of reasons people don't want to be on juries, but i don't want to add another one, but it is stressful. is stressful in any case. think of cases like where there's a horrific crime involved in the jurors are going to be exposed to her photos and scenes and things like that. it can be very, very stressful here. the jurors know that all eyes are on this case. all eyes are watching they walk into court. >> there's donald trump, a president. there's, there's
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people all outside the courtroom. the courtroom is full. they they know that all eyes are on the keys and that their decision is going to be highly scrutinized no matter what it is and their life is going to be under a microscope exactly very soon, john, in terms of the the gaussian myself on fire, what do we know well, we know he's have 36 year-old man from st. augustine, florida, the police down there have had contact with him in a number of incidents that could be connected to mental health crises. >> nowhere in the nypd files are in the intelligence holdings in the counterterrorism world of the police or the fbi so the question is anderson why that why there why today? he carried a sign with him that said trump is with biden and they're about to fascist coup. the united states but his conspiracy theory material, which was all over the web, and he directed people to that today before he did this
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doesn't have much to do with donald trump or joe biden it's about cryptocurrency and universities, movie stars and millionaires and a whole web of corruption and murder but i think the idea he came with was there's one place where every camera from every media outlet everywhere in the world is going to be at a specific time and i'm going to make sure that i direct them to my theories. it's one of the reasons we don't go deep into what they are or talk a lot about him by name is he's done a terrible thing to himself and his family and you don't want to encourage anybody else, to do it. >> so in terms of access to that location, to being that closed, is is this going to change things i mean, it could it's a public park, but it sits between three courthouses and collect pond park is used by people, especially as the weather gets nicer so is the answer widening the perimeter? >> and if you do that, what do you do with the park behind the courthouse, which is also open
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to the public or is the answer just posting more police, they're ready to respond rapidly if something occurs, led these likely they're going to sequester these jurors at some point because they're gonna be leaving the courthouse every day. what am getting on the subway? i mean, what's to stop some weirdo from following? that's a great question. it's an option that's available to courts and what we talk about sequestration, there's various gradations of that. we see sometimes in the movies, the full sequestration where everyone lives in a motel together. i don't think we'll ever get to that point, but there are intermediate versions and i've had this with some of my trial that was where they will have the jurors, for example, meet at a certain common spot a few miles away from the courthouse and then bust them in using the underground tunnel to get in and then take them back to that location you want to give the jurors sense of security. joe's? absolutely right. it is a scary at times traumatic experience and anything you can do to make them feel protected like that, i think is important to do. now, that'll be up to the judge. one thing you always want to watch out is this weekend here when they come back on monday sometimes jurors
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will read things, hear things people will say things to them. so it wouldn't shock me if we have a juror to come monday morning, say to the judge, i don't think i can do this, by the way, you have to add in defense lawyers hate this. yeah. because it's a signal they say unspoken signal that you're being treated differently because this defendant is dangerous, are a danger to you or is people are so they'll oppose it. >> judge jones, do you think it would make sense to me for the protection of the jurors to somehow sequester them yeah two things the logit mistakes of sequestering a jury as my co panelist? >> no are really daunting and the expense is high and jurors don't like it necessarily. i agree that defense attorneys typically don't like it either, but i'll tell you what at the end of a trial de i would typically say to juries, don't read anything about this case, don't research it, don't get on the internet, don't do your own looking into the
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details and you know, i always thought there's a certain number of jurors that would go home and they jump right on google and check the case out. so it is perilous that no matter what admonitions you give, unless the juror gets on social media, there's really no way to check whether they've done some kind of sidebar research on the case and that is a problem. and you could have juror show up and admit that they did it. that's why you have alternatives, but it is a tough aspect. get to a trial when there's a long weekend. >> gelatin. does that add i mean, if a juror is sequestered, i assume that would add to the stress of it there away from their families or their loved different kinds of stress, right? you're taking away some stress and you're adding a different one. and it also would suggests that some jurors may not be able to be sequestered. some of the jurors who already seated they might have an issue with being away from their family in a greater way than they currently are. so i would be concerned that some of them would have to go joe jones, the former president, said again today
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that he intends to testify. do you think that could change once the judge actually rules and which of his past legal run-ins can be introduced as evidenced are or do you think it's him just talking that no defense attorney would allow his client in this case to testify well, here's a scenario, anderson, i think could happen, and ellie mae agree with me on this that you know, he's saying he's going to testify. >> and then judge merchan and i agree fully with the la that although the prosecution has luck what are the wagon with a number of things that they'd like to introduce a go-to his credibility so they'll merge. john will give them some things and you could imagine that former president trump would say, well, you know, i was gonna testify, but this corrupt judge is letting all this evidence in that's irrelevant cases that i have on appeal and so forth and unfortunately, i can testify because he he's done me wrong, so to speak that's an out for him. i would think if he wants to take it.
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no lawyer that i know of. a no. no? >> credible defense attorney would advise foreign president trump to testify in this trial. i can't imagine. >> it would allow to evidence all these things which he has no reason to want to have in evidence, it would be disastrous. >> they would allow and all these other things that the jury, by the way, won't otherwise here about. they're not going to hear about e jean carroll in the civil fraud case. plus he will be grilled hold on. this case itself. and let me just make another prediction when the moment comes, what i think i'll say in addition to what judge jones said is i'm eager to testify, but my lawyers told me that we did such a good job tearing down the governments. kaye, there's no need and that's what i'm gonna do. >> elie honig, joel huntley taylor. thank you, judge jones, as well. and john miller. thank you. coming up next, could you be fair if you were on a trump jury? miguel marquez puts that question to new yorkers and later multiple explosions and a pro iran based in iraq, just a night after the israeli strike on iran. is there a connection israel just wade in. we're trying to gather as much information as we can. we'll update you ahead.
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be deciding his faith. and though for obvious reasons, we can't sit down and speak with them. we can spend time talking with the same broad slice of people here in new york that the jury was drawn from. cnn's miguel marquez. did that you know, donald trump for many years. what is what was your impression of him before he was president? >> an arrogant son of a but not a bad person, but you think you could be in that courtroom and you could judge the evidence fairly. yeah. because i haven't delved into the details or him or anything. he doesn't really interest me that much. >> do you think you could be a fair and impartial juror in the trump trial? >> no, that's why because as i said before, i really hey, team, he is a total catastrophes we are going from the top of manhattan to the very bottom of manhattan, talking to men at nights, potential jurors, and whether they could be fair and impartial in the donalds on trial on the 34 counts that he
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is charged with. >> you could make a fair and impartial decision. >> if i listen to the facts and everything, yeah. i think i can i will i will i won't let it him being a jerk cloud my legal sense of fair play. >> i don't have any bias opinion about king. i think people should be judged by what they've done before. and i think they've dilated down and its history and it's evidence. so i should be judged by that. >> you think you could be fair to don and definitely, i mean, i feel like reserves that yes. >> so i would totally be fair and impartial because that's what i believe in and i'm always i'm a new yorker. i'm up and honest about everything. >> could you be fair and impartial? know why? >> because all the tv and speculation and things that i've seen that he's done and i don't really agree on his character in 2020 manhattan nights voted demo aquatic in overwhelming numbers, just over 12% for trump or biden, nearly 87%. do you think donald trump can get a fair trial in many i would say yes, if there's a
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place that it's going to happen, it's going to happen here. because new yorkers in general, i mean, we may have opinions, but i feel like we set the tone for are fair and equity. that's what we do clearly our justice system as being attacked. >> i think it's up to us to defend it, to defend due process, and to defend the rule of law against all of its enemies so now, even some conservatives we spoke to said that they thought didn't like gettier. >> the trial, but they thought it could get a fair trial and all the manhattan is we spoke to said that they weren't concerned about their personal safety, that they trusted the system and puffy be fine. but given everything that's happened this week, downtown manhattan, one has to wonder if they were actually on that jury if they feel the same anderson, we've got more cash. thanks so much perspective now from former trump campaign adviser davidai urban and norm eisen, who investigated trump has counsel to house democrats in the first impeachment and litigated cases involving him previously, he's also the author of trying trump a guide to his first elected russian
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interference criminal trial david, you've been saying all along, you don't think the foreign president can get a fair trial in manhattan, is it that you just don't believe those 12 jurors and six alternates when they say that they can't be fair. fair. and, judge, the case in the facts hey, look, anderson, i think it's a tough it's tough situation, right? everybody believes, i think in their heart, they can be fair, but they come they come to this case with their own set of biases. and if you just look at the demographics almost eight and ten people in manhattan voted against donald trump so if you're, if you're one of those folks, i don't know how the jury breaks down, but i'm wondering who they voted for. and if you didn't vote for the former president i think you've probably come to that jury with a real bias against him norm, the former president's allies, they're not having about juror number 11. >> she said in court that she doesn't like the foreign presence persona that he seemed selfish and self-serving. those she did tell the judge she could put all that aside and be fair should the judge number accused her for cause i don't
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think so anderson, this was one of the most searching scrutinise of each of these jurors that you could have asked for the judges scrupulously fair at times, i thought he was too fair to donald trump and he asked these jurors over 40 questions. >> they were examined re-examined by the parties. look, donald trump is a very well-known and very very polarizing figure but americans take it very seriously when they promised to be fair and independent. and i have seen juries over my decades of practicing law set aside that stuff that happens outside the courtroom. we also saw a huge number of jurors who said they couldn't be fair over half of each of the two panels that came in of 96 jurors stepping away because they felt they couldn't meet that standard 20 jurors excused over 24 peremptory challenges,
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challenges for cause. i have every confidence that this jury and this judge can be fair, and that donald trump will be judged on the evidence & on the law, which is how it should be. >> david, the former president. he's complained that the trial is keeping them off the campaign trail that he's forced to sit in a cold courtroom all day late today, though he complained the trial was moving too fast. does it doesn't need to kinda pick a lane on when it comes to complaints because now it sounds like he wants it to go slower well, i've not talked the former president about this, but i believe he probably wished that they had add more time to pick a jury that was probably different, right? >> you probably like the like the jurors that were seated and they probably ran out of peremptory strikes as norm. i wasn't in the courtroom like normal is, but i'm sure they ran out of their strikes. you get what you get you. so you get what you get anderson and norm listen, if the script was flipped in this case, right? if that juror that you just read
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had those same feelings about joe biden? joe biden was on trial all right. the other side would be losing there minds right. about getting fair and having a fair and balanced trial. look, this is a very important case. i think we should we should try. they should have moved the venue. they should struck the judge. if you want to if you want to have a serious case about this, or you can just have a kangaroo court that's what's going to play out. and that's how it's going to be proceeding. he by americans norm as we mentioned, the foreign presence request for a stay of the trial pending a venue change was denied by a state appeals judge. today, trump's attorney argued that seating a jury this quickly in this climate was so many prospective jurors being dismissed over bias or self acknowledged bias or should point out was untenable does that logic makes sense or does it i mean, i guess there's a counter argument which is that it shows the process works as intended by weeding out those with with bias yeah. >> anderson having been in the courthouse, i mean, the vast number of jurors who were screened. this one of the most elaborate processes i've seen
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donald trump never saw at trial delay that he didn't like. there is absolutely no basis in new york. lai has has been affirmed by the judge. and reaffirmed by the appellate courts. for this case to be moved, delayed, or slowed down in any way so i think it can be a fair trial and it is a good thing that we are moving with reasonable expedition in one of these criminal cases. and if i may add the judge has described the case and the prosecutor will argue that the case is one of election interference. the judge explain that to the jury the same fundamental pattern, voter deception to grasp power and then cover up as we find in the 2020 election, interference cases. so that makes it all the
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more imperative that we move with reasonable speed. and that's what's happening. >> your minds and thank you, david urban as well. thanks. >> thanks thank you. coming up, we're following the breaking news explosion south of baghdad at a base controlled by an iranian-backed group reported a short time ago, what israel and the us now have said about it, this comes almost 24 hours after what appeared to be limited israeli response to iran's weekend attack it's the latest on both next so what's the codes as 547 but that's all work needs to. we're gonna get into what's not a lot present with her say you're a valued customer sensitive, we can go in the windom just a month meanwhile, at a vrbo when other vacation rentals leave you hanging, try one where you can
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>> well, under son, this information came through to us just after midnight local time when the early hours of saturday. and from a security source well, saying that there had been a huge explosion at a military base of the popular mobilization forces. now this is one of the bigger, iranian back groups within a rock. it's just south of baghdad in the babylon province. we understand from that security source that we're about five explosions. it is it's an ammunitions depo as well. so this is the pictures that you're seeing at the moment. now, we understand there is an investigation team on the seeing the has been material losses that have been injuries, at least three injured were hearing at this point, it's not clear though whether this was an accident or whether this was an attack. we don't know that at this point, but the very fact that we have had denials already just goes to show the tensions in this region at the
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moment. sanderson, israel doesn't often offer these denials for this kind of incident. but the fact that an israeli official has felt that they have to say that israel was not involved in this. just goes to show the tensions at the moment. of course, it just comes hours after israel didn't carry out that retaliatory strike against an army base in iran as well. the us also saying that they don't have any involvement. so there are us troops in iraq at this point, part of this multinational mission to try and beat to isis. this pmf, this particular group has carried out attacks against us troops in the past, as i say, it's, it's one of the many groups you see in iraq that is a rainy and backed. it's iranian trained, uh, rainbow in equipment. there as well. but at this point we understand there have been at least three injured and investigations underway. and a simple garch.
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thanks. pretty much going to continue to follow the story with any new developments. again, to the point about tensions in the region, these explosions come moments a day after what appeared to be limited israeli retaliation to iranian strikes over the weekend. the strikes and the almost muted reply from iran today and seemed to signal the possible de-escalation. nic robertson has the latest what we know ambiguity, not escalation. >> iran's response to explosions in the sky near isfahan military base several hundred miles south of tehran. events under investigation read nothing to see here as the objects were suspicious and our defense system acted swiftly. thank god. there were no major issues satellite images exclusively obtained by cnn appear to support damage on the ground was minimal us officials informed of an unspecified israeli strike just hours before iran's air defenses
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went on alert in the early hours of friday, the secretary of state drawing a line, trying to move forward. united states has not been involved in any offensive operations what we're focused on what the g7 is focused on. and again, it's reflected in our statement and in our conversation is our work to de-escalate tensions iran's response anti israel rally manifesting on the streets of tehran where large crowds can only gather when sanctioned by the government. >> another indication for now it's anger contained to shouting, not sending missile salvos as it did lost weekend approximately 350 drones cruise and ballistic missiles fired at israel following a deadly strike on the iranian consulate in damascus, or most three weeks ago, mostly intercepted without major damage. >> but nema the prime minister
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shunning allies calls to take the win, but vowed to strike back hermitian. now, ambiguity, deafening silence from israeli officials, except for an illuminating online span hard-right cabinet member. it's ammar ben gvir posting on x lame quickly lambasted by centrist opposition leader yair lapid. never before has a minister in the defense cabinet done such heavy damage to the country's security it's on forgivable much and onset the stakes had appeared extremely high iran's for a minister in the moments before the attack, promising instant devastating retaliation nic robertson joins us now from drew some something there have been multiple different stories about what was fired and from where is there a sense of when or if we could get a clearer picture? >> yeah i don't think so because number one is rho doesn't seem to be in the business of the moment of
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talking about it never mind even sort of breaking it down. is that level of detail of aircraft and munitions and that sort of thing? and the iranian sayyed really seems to be trying to sort of pay per this over the idea that there's going to be an investigation, but no one was hurt and there were these objects that had caused them to switch on the air defense system. in the first place. it doesn't seem as if there's any advantage at the moment domestically he where they can claim nothing really bad happened and people are out on the street shouting about how bad israel is know the tensions just exist that and perhaps that underscores the fact that we won't know more. the way that ambiguity works. but it also still sort of leaves those tensions now that attentions still exist. the red lines are both israel and iran misinterpreted on each other's sayyed about striking. those are now blurred and the stakes are just as high. i
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think as they ever were under something, yeah, robertson in israel for us tonight, nick. >> thank you. i'm joe now by former israeli ambassador to the us, michael or an investor or i mean, it seems after last night strike events could be on a d escalatory path. do you think this explosion in iraq i mean, is it worrisome in that it could change the equation if there was a miscalculation or misunderstanding good to be with you. >> i as always, i don't think so. i think it's clear israel was not involved in the iraqi explosion. it would be a very sharp turn from that longstanding israeli policy. we haven't struck back in iraq. and certainly no shortage of iranian-backed militias in iraq, including iranian-backed militias who may have participated in last saturday nights. faraj against israel. >> but it hasn't been israel's policy, if anything, is really seeking to trick some kind of new relationship with the rockets as sunni arab country, despite the fact that these large shi'ite, iran get back. malicious and frankly who could be responsible for that
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explosion? >> you could take a number, anything from certainly americans who've wanted to take vinge for the many, many attacks up 170 attacks. were launched at an american basis by these malicious, it could be isis, it could be any number of opponents that iran and its militia just have in the region. but no, i think israel sent that unequivocal message. it's an amine. it's a big us message. no one's taking responsibility before. but i think the i think it's been internalized by the iranians and that message is very simple iran tried to smack israel with 300 projectiles. some of them large enough to take out entire neighborhoods, but couldn't do it. but all the, all the iran is real allegedly has proven all of iran is vulnerable to israeli capabilities. >> well, in particular, in terms of sending a message, the city, the city word this strike took place in iran. there's a uranium processing facility
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there, as i understand it, which has a role in the iranian nuclear program. that's not an accident. i would assume that that would be the city that who's defenses were penetrated in terms of sending a message probably there were a number of nuclear facilities in the region. it said nuclear rich environment and i think you're absolutely right. i think that the alleged israeli strike we have to stress that this is just not taking responsibility is sending that message to there's really no way are in iran that is in for honorable to israeli abilities, including these nuclear sites i'm wondering, you heard in nic robertson report that israel's national security minister posted the slang term, meaning week are lame on social media, presumably referring to the strikes i mean, we know the cabinet is obviously very divided. >> there's these hard right figures. what does it say to
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you about the level of disagreement right now in that cabinet? >> well, yeah, there's disagreement in the cabinet. i think that the ministered bank mirrors posting was totally indefensible irresponsible, and dangerous. i would stress that is really it's trying to de-escalate here. and the setting the message that we want to retain. the regional alliance that emerged after last saturday night moderate sudo city-states standing basically shoulder to shoulder with odds against iran and the united states, great britain, and france also standing shoulder to shoulder to maintain all of that. and yet send that message to iran, i think is was extended in the threading any number of needles. so very impressive and along comes at this, this internal security management stewart and threatens to unravel all of that very, very dangerous. but there are differences of opinion. there were reports and israel that actually some of the more moderate ministers in the government, benny gantz, gadi, eisenkot, who are part of the national unity government there from the opposition party, were
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in favor of a much more robust response and one that can immediately on the heels iran's attack on saturday night. >> but that was turned down by the by prime minister netanyahu in consultation with president biden. so there are many dynamics here, and it's really even public opinion was divided about the degree and the extent and the immediate see with it's israel should have responded to that iranian non-slav but i think it's done. i think that i think the majority of israelis would agree that this was a prudent response. if in fact there's rebidding, michael oren, former israeli ambassador with us. >> thank you so much just ahead, breaking news, a foreign aid bill with billions for ukraine and israel has passed a key procedural hurdle. now, speaker mike johnson, who helped engineer the deal faces the threat of losing his job is congresswoman marjorie taylor greene declares there's a civil war in the house more in that ahead supplemental businesses go further with 5g solutions.
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overwhelming democratic support today help republican house speaker mike johnson advance a key foreign aid bill worth nearly $100 billion to ukraine and others after months of debate. but it also provoked outrage from the republican leading the charge to oust him. >> georgia's marjorie taylor greene. this was the congresswoman's response. the vote today, i'm steve bannon's podcast as we have completely lost confidence in his leadership now that he is allowing hakeem jeffries& chuck schumer to completely control the house, basically save as civil war has broken out in the house of representatives we all need to be asking the most concerning question. >> what has mike johnson made a deal to do? what has he promised he will give them in the future. and this is why we have to remove mike johnson from the speakership because he has made a deal melanie zanona joins us now from capital hit with the latest on the threat to johnson's speakership. so what is the state of play
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between johnson marjorie taylor greene, and company well, anderson, this is shaping up to be a real showdown between speaker mike johnson and his right flank. >> and it could really all come ahead come to a head tomorrow. republicans are furious that johnson has had to rely on democrats dot every step of this process to try to pass this package of foreign aid bills, including on some key procedural so votes which historically have always been done along party lines. and so that is renewed and sparked some new calls to oust johnson from the speakership today, a third republicans that's paul gosar of arizona, announced that he was officially signing on to the motion to vacate the speakership now, for his part, speaker mike johnson has been defiant. he said he's not worried about losing his job, especially if it means doing the right thing. but just given the math and given the margins, it's likely that johnson is going to need to rely on democrats to help bail him out if this motion to vacate does come to the floor. >> and what did the democratic senate because congressman roe connor was on scene and the other night said, even though
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he disagrees with speaker johnson and many issued, he'd seriously consider voting to defeat the motion to vacate yes. >> so democratic leaders have not yet committed to bailing out johnson, but behind the scenes, anderson, i can tell you there is a lot of interests in throwing him a lifeline and that is because democrats really upped reshaped the fact that johnson defied his right flank, put this package of critical foreign aid bills on the floor. there's also just a lot of concern about the chaos of yet another their potential motion to vacate and the harm that could do to the institution long-term, a feeling certainly shared by many republicans as well. >> so what happens now so the house is going to vote tomorrow on these foreign aid bills. >> that is likely to pass with the support of democrats. and then it's going to hide over to the senate the timeline a little less clear. there. the senate is scheduled to be on recess this next week, so it's something they could pick up after the recess and president biden did say he would sign these bills if they come to his desk, but some of the things anderson that we are watching out for tomorrow are does marjorie taylor greene finally
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forced this florida vote on the motion to vacate do anymore republicans get behind her? and importantly, as we mentioned to democrats, step up and say they are committed and willing to saving. johnson's speakership so just a lot to look out for here on capitol hill over the next 24 hours, anderson, louise. thanks very much. so. what are those who know my johnson best think about his abilities is how speaker in the attacks from congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, gary tuckman visited his hometown for some answers in the small northwest louisiana town of denton where speaker of the house, mike johnson and his family live. >> by now he and his wife, kelly well, many people, not so surprisingly, offer glowing use above the speakers. >> i think that he's very fair minded and he's led my god, and he really tries i'll make his decisions according to prayer and his heart. >> and when you go elsewhere in johnson's congressional district, like it's big as city shreveport. >> you will hear similar vibes a great guy. it's got great
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moles and i think what he's doing is great. i think he's a good christian man. i think it's what our country needs and i trusting. >> and even from non how my democratic, but you support i suppose i like my. >> so with that being said, what the speaker is louisiana constituents think of georgia congress to win marjorie taylor greene trying to take them down. >> i think that there's different factions within the republican party that all have, you all want to be heard and i think that mike's doing a good job of managing all those different opinions. and i think marjorie taylor greene is just causing trouble visit anger, you yeah, it does because i think that the last thing we wanna do is get back in a situation where the houses is in turmoil and there's no leadership. >> what do you think of marjorie taylor greene, the congressman from georgia, trying to oust him as speaker of the house. >> i don't like it i don't i mean, once she do it just like his stances on a number of things like funding for ukraine, for example, she doesn't want it so what do you think about that?
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>> i think we started helping them. i think we should continue helping him. >> i think she's making a big mistake promoting that she's not my favorite. congressperson what do you think so glad she's not my representatives. >> we go inside this office building in downtown shreveport and meet with this man and the oil and gas business. >> a lot of things that are happening today in this country remind you what happened back in the 90s and all of you have you el versa. >> hey, check is from bosnia and says he immigrated to the united states three decades ago in the midst of the sectarian war, which led to the breakup of yugoslavia. >> so beautiful country. >> people were getting along a lot of good people and the divisiveness between politicians have caused a major war. and a lot of innocent people suffered in this office in this congressional district. we've talked to a lot of people, one in republicans and
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