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overnight, a us official told cnn, israel carried out a military strike deep inside iran good, this escalate the already tense situation in the middle east jury selection in donald trump's hush money trial could wrap up today. opening statements in this store, a case are on track to begin monday, plus on the house floor, a critical test for a long-stalled foreign aid bill for israel and ukraine hello, i'm wolf blitzer in washington and urine the cnn newsroom happening now a decades-long shadow war between israel and iran spills out in the open. us officials dow say israel launched and overnight strike on iran, appearing to target a military facility some 200 miles from the capital tehran in the hours since the attack, there has been a nearly unified global response arounds allies like china and russia echoing
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calls from israel's western supporters to show restraint. and avoid a wider regional conflict. cnn is covering the story from around the globe our chief international security correspondent, nick paton walsh, is tracking developments from london our national security correspondent, natasha bertrand, there's over at the pentagon and then tasha, let me start with you. what's the biden administration saying about the strike inside iran? >> well, if they're being very tight lift so far this morning about this strikes secretary of state antony blinken would not even acknowledge that it was, in fact, and israeli strike inside iran saying only that the us had nothing to do with this offensive operation, but reiterating that the us does not want to see the conflict in the region escalate it and essentially calling for peace and for calm as we move forward with this, but luck the administration was warned by these rayleigh's up prior to them carrying out the strike according to us official, it may may not have been days beforehand. it was a fairly
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soon before these rallies conducted the strike, but still the heated the us calls to give them a heads up before they moved forward. with this strike. and the us made very clear to them as well that they did not endorse this attack. again, they have jim trying to de-escalate tensions in the region. and while they're not outright condemning it, they are still reiterating here that a full-on war between israel and iran is obviously not something that anyone wants to see at this point. now, us officials warn conversations repeatedly this week with their israeli counterparts, including here at the pentagon, secretary of defense, lloyd austin. he spoke to israeli defense minister yoav gone just yesterday and they discussed or ron's regional escalation. it's unclear if god previewed the israeli military action two secretary austin, but the message has been consistent here. they don't want to see this escalate any further and they importantly do not want iran or anyone else in the international community, of course, to think that the us had any thing to do with this wolf all right.
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>> attached her step by. i want to bring in nick paton walsh right now. nick, you're monitoring the reaction from iran. what are you hearing? >> yeah. look, it's been comparatively muted this morning from iranian officials or lack of transparency, frankly on the damage done. some military official suggesting we're talking about three drones potentially intercepted another suggesting that the noise is heard over is for a city that has some key military and nuclear facilities are rounded, but that was essentially related to air defenses are targeting a suspicious objects. so we don't really know exactly whether the iranians are going to admit what was hit here. and that may play very well into their hands what are the key advantages of being an autocracy is you get to control the information within your own society. and so iran looks like for now it is essentially trying to say that israel didn't really manage to hit anything and what happened in the skies over iswaran last night was a bit of a nothing burger, but still, that is a marked difference from just hours before this strike what we heard from their foreign minister in terms of the
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ferocity of iran's response, where it attacked in case that doesn't the israeli regime, for behind embarks on adventurism. >> again and takes action against the interests of iran for the next response from us will be immediate and at a maximum level now, obviously from israel so far, we've heard very little, no official comment. >> and i think that perhaps reverting to type pair during what you refer to as the shadow war, where they would do things inside iran that were clearly israel, but not publicly admit it. i'm referring to the assassination of nuclear scientists and various targeted covert ops that we've seen over the past decade. so we have here clearly a calibrated israeli response designs to perhaps show iran that they can at-will penetrate their air defenses nothing so severe that iran honest, perhaps forced to publicly declare their rage and
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make good on those threats and retaliation. you saw there. and so we may be entering acquire two chapter here, but no mistake here. wolf taboo of these two countries directly attacking each other as now broken. it's been a proxy war for many, many, many years, but also think it's fair to say right now, israel with gaza are ongoing, doesn't need a massive confrontation with an iranian proxy to its north, hezbollah in lebanon. patel initially iran has seen its military prowess begins to ebb and so may not want that direct confrontation either. and above all, the united states, key israeli ally does not need to be dragged into the middle east in yet another war as election season for president joe biden gets closer and closer. >> are nick paton walsh are reporting for his dick. thank you very much. i want to go to jeremy diamond. he's joining us live from tel aviv right now. jeremy, give us a little bit more on the reaction from israel well, well, it has been absolute silence both from the
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israeli government and its military. no word from the mossad either, which we know in the past has conducted some some similar clandestine operations inside of iran before and that is all very intentional. the israeli government and choosing to carry out this limited response, also wanted to do so in a way that did it with very limited public fanfic here, in a way that sent a message to iran directly that the attack that iran carried out on israel over the weekend would not go unanswered, but while also allowing iran effectively to save face and what nick was just reporting on in terms of the iranian reaction and the way in which they are kind of spinning this to avoid having to retaliate further is exactly the reason why we are seeing the kind of silence that we are hearing from israeli government officials it's also important to keep in mind, of course, that this response came after days of pressure from the united states and other israeli allies to carry out a limited
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response. let's the carry out a response that would thread that needle of both sending the message but also avoiding a spiraling this conflict further into an all-out war between iran and israel. and for now at least it appears that that kind of delicate balance has indeed been achieved. and i also think it's important to note that the israeli public over the course of this week and public polling has made clear that they didn't want to see military reaction in iran that would risk undermining the israeli alliance with united states and with the other partners who helped carry out that very successful air defense operation. over the weekend. and so clearly that is ultimately the direction that the israeli government chose here, well, sorry, jeremy diamond in tel aviv for us, jeremy, thank you very much. >> we'll continue to monitor what's going on and get back to you. there's breaking news here in washington unfolding right now. the house of representatives has just voted to advance foreign aid bills that had just been passed prado roger was up on capitol hill. i take this rule vote, this
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procedural vote manoa past. >> can you describe your level of frustration what do you make? okay. i haven't here. we threw off. we're trying to get a question to marjorie taylor greene here because she of course, is a key player at this moment, because she has threatened to actually try to move forward on a motion to oust the sitting house speaker, and that can happen at any moment. and she could call for a vote that could happen to them too. just let of days. and the question will be how democrats will vote because at the moment they're at least two republicans who plan to vote to essentially push him out from the speakership because of his handling of this major aid package, 95 billion that includes aid to ukraine, in particular, which has caused this rowboat on the right flank and maj. marjorie taylor greene, i just tried to ask her, is today the day is today. today. she's going to actually move forward and push ahead with a vote. she would not ask you that. i'm not going to answer any questions. let's actually kind of unusual wolf, she has been answering lots of questions all along. but this time she didn't want to do and i asked her why she's on has
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any questions. she would not say so. we'll see what that actually means here. but what if this key procedural vote just passed? as in the house, i'm pulling up the vote right now. it looks like it was 300 and to 94. that was the vote to actually move ahead on this this aid package. now, this is why this is such a significant and interesting breakdown. this is a bipartisan vote. typically these procedural votes are done along straight it party lines that majority party votes for the minority party votes against it. that's the way it's been done in the house for years and years and years. this time is different because a deep republican divisions over this foreign aid package. remember, never, never republicans simply don't want this to come forward and in this vote, there were republicans who voted against that. they were 55 republicans who voted against it. that is a significant number of republicans. there were 100 republicans who voted for it, but democrats because of their desire to move ahead on this aid package for ukraine. in particular, 165 of them
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ultimately supported this rule to going forward, meaning that this bill to overall aipac okay. we'll get a vote on the house for tomorrow and it can be approved along by a majority vote in the united states houses, which is what we expect. so a lot of moving parts here war, but the two main things we're watching here, what ultimately happens in a final vote on this bill, which is expected to pass the house tomorrow. they don't have to go over to the senate. the senate have to give final approval back to the center of the president to sign into law after months and months and months battling to get this across the finish line. and then what happens to the future of the speaker of the house? kenny ward off this revolt on the far right and will democrats come to his defense? all key questions here. but as you saw right now, as marjorie taylor greene was leaving this vote, she did not want to comment about whether today was a de she would have to call for that vote or what our thinking was in trying to kick out the speaker and i just wanted to clarify, amanda, will the vote tomorrow when the floor of the house of representatives combine all of the foreign aid for israel, ukraine, taiwan,
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and other programs into one vote or will they be separate votes on these individual packages so it's actually going be separate votes initially. so this is just how it's going to happen. each those votes are we for bills, those are the three countries that you mentioned. there's a fourth bill as well that includes some other measures including food to try to force the sale of tiktok from the chinese company bytedance danns, if not running to ban it in app stores in the united states, all that's going be after it's voted on individually in the house it will be all wrapped together in one package and then sent over to the senate, which will give final approval and said to the president's desk in that process also is what's causing that revolt on the right, that a lot of republicans who did not want to spend any more money for ukraine and said that they absolutely should not be tied to aid to israel in particular. but the speaker of the house, recognizing he had to get the votes and also the speaker changing his own view on ukraine aid after getting brave, and sensitive classified
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briefings about the nature of that war within against russia has been concerned, become a staunch advocate of getting more money to ukraine and recognizing the vote simply were not there to separate these and send individual pieces of these larger package over the senate. so you need democratic votes. so we decided to use this process to tie them all together. now because of those moves, this bill is on his way to become law and the speaker of the house potentially could stay as speaker the house with the support of democrats if they decide to do that, jim, it looks like here it will pass the senate to be sure. manu raju, up on capitol hill. thanks very much right now. i want to bring in mark esper, who served as defense secretary during the trump administration. she's also now a cnn global affairs analyst. mr. secretary, thanks so much for joining us. so what's your reaction to what about erasure is just reporting that the house will now vote on these aid packages and then eventually lump them all together as it sends the package to the senate for approval.
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>> well, good morning. now. look, i think it's very good news. >> it's the right decision. and frankly, it's a courageous decision by speaker johnson. he obviously is taking on a number of members of his coalition, the far right, the freedom caucus numbers yeah, two dozen, three dozen or so. >> and the boat shows that, but i'm encouraged by it. >> i was also encouraged to hear if i heard a menn numbers correctly, that three-quarters of republicans voted for this package. so it tells you that an easy majority of republicans still believe that america's leadership in the world matters and that we need to help ukraine. and of course, israel and support taiwan as well. so i think this is a very good day. hopefully, he's right in terms of the timeline things moving quickly tomorrow through the senate and then on the president's desk. and this will be very good news for ukraine. and i'm sure vladimir putin is not happy sitting in moscow right now. >> yeah, the crania is desperately de, this us military assistance. and now it looks like it's gonna be going forward relatively quickly. secretary esper, i also want to get your thoughts on that. this is airstrike deepen sayyed
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around right now satellite images, we've just obtained show no extensive damage to that iranian isfahan airbase. what do you make of that? >> yeah. look, i think it was a very restrained action which probably accomplish what they wanted to achieve. this wasn't about destroying iranian infrastructure or killing iranians. it was really about sending a message. and the message being that we can touch you, we can reach deepen de iran, and we can hit very sensitive sites because it's for khan is your reporters noted? the earlier is where there's a significant part of iran's nuclear complex. there's an airbase there that contains both the jet fighters and air defense batteries. and of course there's a missile production factor there as well. so they've pretty much told the iranians, look, we can reach out and touch you and, you know, this has been a good week from from israel's perspective at this point now because last saturday, they'd beat back a 350 or so missile drone attack against them, which showed a how
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extraordinary iran, israel's defenses were. but defense is not deterrence. and what they need to do is reset deterrence. and you do that through two things. one demonstrating will and capability and by attacks ron, despite iran warnings up to the last minute, and then being able to reach deepened iran, they've demonstrated that capability. now the key thing will be as is deterrence, restore, restore and did we block, did they block iran from establishing a new normal whereby anytime something happens against is iran's interests, they strike israel with ballistic missiles. only time will tell the israeli strike, as you know, triggered iran's air defense systems. >> what do you think the us has learned about arounds capabilities from this israeli strike? well, much like iran's ballistic missile capability, some of which never left the launcher or some of which probably didn't make it across the persian golf. their capabilities while they have an extensive missile inventory numbering in the thousands, the largest and most diverse in the
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middle east they are not as capable as maybe we believed. and i think maybe the same is true for their air defenses. they have s3 hundred russian air defenses, which are very good systems. but it's more than just equipment. it's about training, it's about maintenance. it's about many other things and look, the other part of this wolf, it's important to keep in mind part of this trade-off that's happening right now between russia and iran, which involves the ukraine war. as iran provides shaheen drones and ballistic missiles to russia to use against ukraine in exchange, iran has been asking for advanced jet fighters and s4 hundred air defense systems if they were able to require both, that would make penetrating iranian airspace far more difficult for both the israelis and the united states. so this is part of that growing alliance between russia and iran and china as well, that we need to be very careful about and mindful of. >> yeah, it's a sensitive, very, very delicate situation unfolding, right now just before the rarely airstrike overnight, the iranian foreign
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minister in an exclusive interview with our erin burnett, i don't know if you saw it, but it was an important interview said that if israel were to attack a target in iran, he said the iranian response would be immediate and at the highest level so far, i don't think there's at any iranian response, certainly not immediate, not at the highest level. what do you think the radians are going to do well, that's, that's typical way iranian bluff and bluster. >> the when you see any situations. you know, last week when when 99 plus percent of their missiles and drones were defeated on state media, they were out there, proclaimed coming success and the dermis made it through. and this morning, the silence from both sides, frankly is deafening that nobody is talking about what happened. there's et cetera. so i think this appears to be the end of it right now, but we'll see all right. >> stand by for a minute. the house speaker is now talking to reporters. i want to hear what you say russia and china, and iran, which i believe is the new axis of evil. and many of
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us do and they are the ones who are the aggressors in this situation the reality here is that if the house let's did not do this better policy and process allowing for amendments on the floor in the process tomorrow, we would have had to eat the senate supplemental bill. and that is because we were very close given the timeline in both israel and ukraine to a discharge petition being brought, and a discharge petition in layman's terms, is that when a number of members are majority of members get together, they can override this before and bring something straight to the floor that would have happened eminently on the senate supplemental. so by doing this, even though it's not the perfect legislation, it's not the legislation so she that we were, we would write if republicans were in charge of both the house and senate and the white house, this is the best possible product that we can get under these circumstances to take here of these really important obligations. and so we look forward to the vote tomorrow we let look forward to every member voting their conscience and their desire, and that is exactly how this process this
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supposed to work and how the house is to operate. so we're happy to provide that. he getting more comment tomorrow mr. speaker all right. >> clearly pleased that the house speaker, john so clearly pleased by this initial procedural house vote. let me get reaction from what we just heard from the former defense secretary what do you think secretary? >> yeah. look, i think he's spot on about the axis of evil and the importance of us providing this aid to ukraine as we've talked about before, wolf, if this aid didn't go through, it was only a matter of time where ukraine was trading territory for time. and my concern would be by the end of the year, their ability to defend against russia would collapse. and of course, our support to you crane also signals that we support we would support taiwan against china. so it's no surprise that when prime minister kishida, japan was here last week, he, he spoke before congress and said the same things about the importance of supporting ukraine. we've heard the same out of taiwan and other indo-pacific partners. so look, i think it's very important. >> but as you noted before, the
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drama is going to happen here what happens to his speakership? >> what plays out after that? but i think he made a very courageous, courageous decision. the right decision at putting his job on the line to for american leadership, frankly, i'm very quickly before i let you go, secretary esper, the billions and billions of dollars and proposed aid for ukraine in this new legislative according to the speaker, will be in the form of a loan as opposed to as opposed to what used to happen it outright grant from the united states. what's your reaction to that? >> look at that's what it takes to get the aid, the arms material, munitions. that's fine. you know, i thought it was the grant was more on the economic sayyed, not the military side, but i didn't see obviously the final drafted legislation. but look, i think that's fine. the important thing is get the arms and munition to them. we can sort out later whether they repay the full loan, half hello. and where the case may be but i think it's a fair trade off. >> the key thing is to keep things moving and get the ukrainians what they need.
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back in court this morning for day four of jury selection in his criminal hush money trial. let's get right to laura coates. she's in new york for us, laura. so where do things stand now? >> we've got 12 jurors. one option already seated. we still need five additional alternate is to complete that total number of 18. we know of course that three of the 22 prospective jurors work excuse this morning so far and two of the initial seven were dismissed yesterday. and so we've got a lot going on this morning. a very busy day first, the prospect that we will actually have a complete jury panel, even by the end of the day, if not sooner, and onto a potential, it's known as a sandoval hearing. this a fancy way if saying, listen gives the defendant notice of what might be raised if he were to choose to defend himself by taking the stand as bringing kristen holmes here. what a very busy day. >> this is moving pretty quickly and unlike yesterday, we're not seeing members
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who've already been seated. >> hold off. >> exactly. and so what we have seen so far right now, court is in a break. we got about through the first part of this morning, 22 jurors who had already been sworn in yesterday, they're part of that 96 juror panel. they were brought back into go over the questionnaire three of those this is jurors who were brought in for dismissed. they said they could not be impartial. they originally thought they could be. they slept on it, they could not now we have seen them go systematically through. they talked about what they do, what kind of news they consume. could they be fair and impartial? do they have any interaction? with various political groups now they're taking a break and we're going to get to the part where both sides, the prosecution and the defense start to ask questions, really of the group as a whole all talking to them. and there are some specifics there. we've seen some social media questions some kind of pointed questions at various jurors. now, one thing to note here is that in the past last two times we've done this the last time we did this, they only got 25 minutes to question that. they're getting an extra five minutes now because this pool selection is bigger last time it was 18 people even though it
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has gone down from 22, they are still getting that extra five minutes. you'll see about 30 minutes on each side to go over the various questions that they think are are important whether or not these people, particularly what we've seen with the defense, right. questions about how do you feel about donald trump. >> even more importantly, in the numbers to chris and we know that michelle peremptory strikes. the ten that each side had. that's not the same factor any longer now, ram the alternates part of it here we're interestingly enough, normally in a corporate ceo didn't you wouldn't want your jurors to know their alternates. it might create an incentive not to pay as close attention, but in this context, the alternatives might not only be necessary, they might have to assume from the role of actual jurors during deliberations, if one were excused. so now the parties have additional strikes. i'm learning that's right. >> so it's actually very interesting. they had ten strikes for justice, fill the box. now they have two strikes per seat. so remember, just the way that they do this. every alternate, it's essentially given a number through here, these as they goes through to
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seat alternate to alternate three, alternate four in those seats, each side will have two additional strikes to get rid of someone. again, this is not necessarily for cause and the term because of what they've said, just because they don't want to no questions asked, they don't believe that they would be beneficial to them in some way. or they think that they would be biased. >> so it is really interesting to see how they're actually welcome to use these strikes. >> and as we've gone through, i have noticed that this group seems to be a little bit less into the news, at least they're saying they are then we saw before this is a wider swath of people. there's lots of various jobs, there's people who have relationships with people who have been accused of crimes, people themselves. this group who have been accused crimes, events importantly, because normally one would assume if you commit convicted of a crime that might disqualify you, that's not the case here. the idea of why one juror was dismissed hey, miss because the failure to disclose according to the questionnaire, not they actually had a convicted of a crime. in fact, the defense might look at this as a good thing to have
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somebody who has been the before and gone through the process. >> but, interestingly enough, you mentioned the news or lack thereof. >> people really want to know, is this jury going to be sequestered and they going to be able to go home at night. is the judge going to say you cannot listen to the news? you cannot watch television, particularly in a world where watching television is a different concept. now it might be unplugged, right? >> you guys second thing, and we don't know what those terms are gonna look like. >> we do know that they are at this point likely to be able to go home every single night, but just a reminder of one of the jurors who ask to be dismissed. part of the reason as he dismissed because of the news coverage they were getting calls from other people, say are you this juror, this seems like you that's going to be very difficult overall for these jurors to stay completely out of this. maybe not as many identifying factors are being leaked out. but then again, have you do a push alerts up to your phone. what podcasts are you listening to? is it going to be possible to talk to your significant but can other without bringing up this case,
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are they political, are they going to bring up this case? these are the questions that really both sides are trying to get to the bottom of. but also but we're going to be wondering and we're hoping to get some kind of guidance from the judge on when these jurors leave the courtroom. >> this is such a high profile case and we're hearing manhattan. try walking down the street and someone not aware of what's going on in this case, maybe even the inadvertent consumption of information might be something and for the judge to consider here. and again, we're watching very closely wolf to see what the former president is doing inside of this courtroom were told that he is slipping through paperwork. he is more attentive did he is recipe is looking towards the jury pool when they are describing the questionnaire. so we might find out this very day who those 18 people will be to decide the fate of former president of the united states laura, thank you very much that kristen as well. >> let's continue this conversation right now, joining me, the former trump white house attorney jim scholz. jim,
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thanks so much for joining us. first of all, what's your thoughts on the jury that's been seated one juror said, she appreciated gates that trump speaks his mind. but another juror called trump and i'm quoting now, very selfish and self-serving. what are your thoughts i think this jury that has been empaneled thus far is one that the purpose of jury selection, that what we looked for jury selection is fundamental fairness, right? >> that's why you have the strikes that that's why all the research has done. that's why he get into these folks backgrounds. that's why you asked questions. >> and in this case both sides have spent a lot of time a lot of due diligence trying to get jurors that are gonna be more be more friendly towards their position in this case, right? >> or find folks who are not necessarily going to be biased to the other side. and i think in this case, they've done a pretty good job based upon profile of kinda finding folks that meet in the middle. >> i always go back to the first to the form in the first
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one, the fellow from ireland who the watches msnbc and fox news, right? he's, he's he's has some education. >> he had some college education is in sales, come a blue collar background. that's the that's the one you're looking at as the swing juror in this instance. just like add swing voters in politics that's the swings or the his lawyers are going to be looking at and you're going to have folks that are on other signs on other sides of that spectrum across the board and watching them as well you know, jibba as this process continues to unfold, even as we speak right now, the need to seat at least five alternate jurors. >> how would you approach this if you were a member of trump's legal so team right now it's no different with the alternative, right? you want to get you want to find the best folks who are going to be one you want to make sure that folks are gonna be paying attention to this. the alternate are very important in this case, you could end up supplanting jurors with an
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alternate. so it's just as important to have alternates that and pay attention to the alternative at it is as it is for the main jurors in this particular case, because there's a real good shot that one of them may be on that jury panel down the road, or more than one because yesterday we saw to jurors who were seated earlier in the week, replaced. do you think this current jury and its alternates will hold and are six internet some your opinion enough i think six alternates are probably enough. >> in my experience, i believe that will be enough. i think it's good that they gave them extra strikes as it relates to the alternate. i think that shows that they're paying the court is also understands that these alternates are also important. so i think they have enough alternatives. >> i think they could have one or one or more replaced, but you never know, right to trials have take on a life of their own and the facts arise as they, as the case unfolded. so i think we're at the wait and see yeah. >> good point. assuming things
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stay on track. what do you think opening statements could look like on monday i think we do have opening statements on monday and i think you're going to hear from the defense on the defense, sayyed, i think they're gonna go right after the witnesses from the outset. >> what you're going to hear and what their back what their backup particularly michael cohen. >> right. >> you're relying on someone who he's going to make the argument that they're the prosecution is relying on someone who has who has a grudge against the former president and they're going to try to make that point throughout the trial. they're trying to disk credit witnesses from the outset that the prosecution there's going to put on the stand and that's where i don't think they've listed a lot of witnesses for the defensiveness it's all about attacking. it's all about attacking the witnesses, credibility that the prosecution is going to put on in this case. in particular, michael coe yeah. >> and i thought speaking of witnesses, i thought it was significant that the prosecutor
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said they won't share the witness list publicly or with trump's legal team ahead of the opening arguments presumably on monday, they say it's because and i'm quoting them now, mr. trump has been tweeting about the witnesses. what's your reaction to that? >> look, i said this time and time again. if someone thinks they're going to control what donald trump does on truth, social, as it relates to this trial are sadly mistaken. the judge can do the best he can in trying to control that. he only has so many tools at the disposal. he's not going to throw the former president in jail. he can admonish him he can find him, he can make it very difficult for him, and he can make it difficult for the lawyers. and he has some tools at his disposal, but i would expect that donald trump is going to be using his platform as early, early and often through this process where he could get themselves into trouble is when he starts either attacking jurors, witnesses prosecutors in the case on a personal level, especially witnesses, but
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again, with michael cohen, you have michael cohen out there tweeting about the former president egging on almost asking for a battle over social media with the former president. so if he's going to continue to do that, and i said, i expect donald trump it was going to respond in kind. >> and i suspect you're right. jim shows the former trump white house attorney. thanks. as usual, for your expertise. here's a question. what did the us actually know about israel's strike inside iran? i'll ask florida congressman jared moskowitz from the foreign affairs committee. he's coming up next stay with us. you're the cnn newsroom live from the nation's capital, one of the most unforgettable night in dc, the swatter will read back here, resident biden and comedian collin joseph headline the white house
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include some 61 billion in aid to ukraine and 26 billion dollars in aid for israel. joining us now, the florida congressman jared moskowitz, he's a democrat, is service on the foreign affairs and oversight committees congressman. thanks so much for joining us. do you think democrats are getting any concessions? for helping speaker johnson get this legislation across the finish line thanks. >> well, thanks for having me. i think the american people are are getting those concessions. remember these are bills we could have passed months ago. we could have passed is relayed the week. speaker johnson became speaker. that was right after october over seventh, he tied it to the irs. instead, played politics with it and killed the bill. we've had the senate bill now for months, this basically is the senate bill that we're doing in the house. just divide i didn't in separate votes to distinction really, without a difference. and so look, democrats are leading as speaker jeffrey as
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this is a churchill or chamberlain moment, and democrats along with some of our republican colleagues are deciding this is our churchill moment to make sure that we're standing by our allies, not just ukraine and israel, but sending the message to all of our allies around the world that you can still depend on america and not ceding more power to russia and china if this bill fails russia and china are the winners. you could not be a republican here and say you're worried about china. china's aggression. and then vote against this because this dies, china becomes more powerful. they fill the void and china, russia and iran, that axis the people will look at this and tell the rest of the world. now is the time to do business with us and not with america you use this week, you introduce a bipartisan bill, congressman condemning iran's last weekend drone and cruise missile attack on israel. >> how do you read israel's clearly more limited and precise strike on iran that happened overnight yeah, let's
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be clear on this first one. >> i think what israel did was smart. >> they launched 1%, 1% of the amount of weapons that iran launched. i ran launched over 300 missiles, drones, israel launched like three or four. so he launched 1%. so i ran, had a disproportional response to the bombing of that compound. >> israel has had less than a proportional response. >> it was message to iran that said, your weapons can get through our defenses atoms, but our weapons can get through your defense systems. you should remember that. now everybody go back to the way it was, but let's be clear, you know what the way it was, the way it was is i ran attacking israel with all of their proxies right? with hezbollah. & houthis and hamas. and so it's not like it's just going back to this wonderful scenario. iran's been messing with israel frey all through all of its proxies but i think what israel did was smart. i think it was limited. it's not looking for provocation. it's
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looking to make sure that we're not having a hot war directly between iran and israel. but i think it was the right message. you don't get the sen. ballistic missiles into a country ballistic missiles that could carry a nuclear warhead and think that country doesn't get to respond. that's not a win. okay. you got to make sure that you re-installed deterrence. and i think that's what israel did. >> do you see any indication? in congressmen that iran will respond or do you think direct strikes between israel and iran, at least for now, will stop i think from the information that's been made available publicly, it appears that this is now going to simmer down it does not appear to be escalatory iran is not languaged, are putting anything since the strike that. >> they're looking for that. in fact or downplaying it in their media they're saying that there was no there was no strike so i pope that's the case. i hope no one makes any rash decisions. we don't want a regional conflict. obviously we
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and they believe that at the end of the day, despite people say thing that they can be impartial, that there is going to be some sort of political bias. they know that the defendant is incredibly polarizing as well as the fact that he's a former president and incredibly well-known but what they're looking for is can they find one sympathetic jury? >> juror? can they get a hung jury that is the ultimate goal here, because as you've said, had an acquittal exactly. >> and i don't know well, that they necessarily think they're going to get an acquittal. so sure. that is the ultimate goal, but the realistic goal for them might more be leaning towards getting a hung jury. >> now remember for the prosecutor bhushan and the defense team, it has been show time since the very first juror in the pool walked in that courtroom, they're going to have to now tailor their oral arguments that might happen as early as monday and day to those 18 jurors. now, we know the court of public opinion looms large and we have a lot of conversations. but for them, they're going to present their case to these jurors. so every detail they learn luck in the way might be useful exactly. >> that's exactly right. i just remember that the trump team also has a jury consultant
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that is looking at each of these people going back and for dealing with the lawyers on who they are choosing. part of that is for the exact reason that you are talking about because when they are making their arguments, they're not necessarily going to be speaking to all 12 jurors and the bugs are all 18. they might just be tailoring their message, just choose specific jurors. >> because again if they cannot get an acquittal part of the ultimate goal is to get a hung jury right. >> or to focus on one witness they wanted his credit entirely. kristen holmes, you've been so invaluable throughout this process. i want to turn it right back to you all laura, thank you. thanks, kristen, as well. and to our viewers, thanks very much for joining me here in the cnn newsroom. i'll be back later today, 5:00 p.m. eastern for a special two hours situation room back here monday morning, 11:00 a.m. eastern in the cnn newsroom. stay with cnn, right now inside politics with dana bash starts right after a short break.
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romo, the georgia state capitol in atlanta. >> this is cnn welcome to inside politics. i'm dana bash, jury selection is nearly complete in the case the people of the state of new york versus donald j. trump, 12 jurors and one alternate have been sworn in right now. judge juan roshan and lawyers from both sides are trying to fill up the panel with five more alternate trump is inside the room and we're told that he's been looking right at jurors as they answer questions and whispering with his attorney. now, if you were wondering about his mood on th

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