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that's about. but there are a lot of strong learns that that is going to be addressed that's it. singular people are more universal than they sound on the surface grace i seizure. >> finally, we're all going to be listening this weekend. thanks so much thanks to our panel and thank you for joining us this morning. i'm jim acosta, cnn news starts right now. have a great day, swiftness cnn's breaking news are breaking news. >> israel strikes iran hours after a stark warning from iran that it will respond with maximum effect. but this morning we are seeing what appears to be the first signs of relief around the world as a source in the region declares direct strikes between the two atoms are now over and vote both nations so far seem to be downplaying at all. we are standing by right now to hear from us secretary of state antony blinken he is in italy right now, and we'll deliver his first remarks since israel strike. here's what's happened. us officials confirm
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israel carried out an attack overnight at a military base near the city of isfahan upon iran says air defenses intercepted three drones. israel has vowed retaliation for the barrage of missiles that iran launched last weekend into israel. so what message did israel intend to send and where does the risk for wider conflict stand? at this hour, we have live team coverage in israel and washington, cnn's jeremy diamond i mean, is in tel aviv. kylie atwood, is that the state department jeremy, what are you hearing in israel right now well, look over the course of the last nearly weeks since iran carried out that attack gone, israel, we have been hearing this talk of threading the needle, of trying to find a way for israel to respond militarily to what they viewed as a crossing of a red line by iran fond by carrying out an attack from iranian soil targeting israel directly using its own forces rather than its proxy forces.
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>> in the region. and it appears does that this response that we saw last night done very quietly without any public comments so far from the israeli government appears to have been that attempt to thread the needle to carry the out an attack on iranian soil without doing so publicly. and without, it seems causing significant casualties what we understand from i'm a regional intelligence sources that iran is not expected to retaliate any further, basically saying this source saying that the for tat between in these two countries, at least directly again, i'm not talking about the battles between their proxy forces, but at least directly that this exchange of fire appears to be over for for the moment. and that is quite notable because it was only yesterday that we heard the iranian foreign minister warning directly that israel struck iran directly that iran's response would be immediate and it would be overwhelming. and so it appears that this kind of quiet attack that israel appears to have
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carried out overnight in terms of public messaging that, that may have been enough to avoid that kind of retaliation& to avoid all out war between these two countries. >> and kylie were standing by showing a live picture now of the lectern in italy where tony blinken is going to be speaking. what are you expect? what do you already hearing from state right now? >> well, listen, all eyes are really on what the secretary of state is going to say. i think it's important to note that we heard from him the latest on this was monday. he said that he had spent the last 36 hours up until that point coordinating with diplomatic partners in the region, trying to prevent escalation. of course, we know that after the attack was initially carried out by iran on israel, the biden must ration was very swift to say that they believed that israel should take it as a win there weren't any of those drones. are that are those missiles that bro crewe the defenses of israel alongside the us. and many of israel's
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allies were able to really defend israel in a very strong way. they thought that is russia ticket is when it presumably would mean that the us didn't want there to be any response by israel, but we'll have to watch and see how they respond to this type of attack, which appears as jeremy was saying, to have threaded that needle that folks were looking for israel two potentially do. i think it's important to know that the secretary of state is in italy because he's there for a meeting with his g7 partners. all of the foreign ministers in the g7 have been meeting this week. one of the things of course, that they'd been talking about ease the tension in the middle east. we just heard from the italian foreign minister speaking with reporters just just here before the secretary of state is expected to do so. and he confirmed that the us had been informed that israel was going to go ahead with this attack overnight. he said the us was not all involved, but this was just information that was provided to the united states. i also think it's important to note that the secretary of
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state said earlier this week in what appeared to be true trying to get israel to go for a de-escalate tori response saying quote that strength and wisdom need to be different sides of the same coins will watch to see what he says. now that israel's actually carried this out jeremy, what is known about what was hit with what from where well, we don't have enormous details about the specificities of these attacks, but one of the targets appears to have been, is fine khan. where are the iranian military has a base there. there is also historic and some some symbolism as it relates to that target there are also appeared to have been air defense targets in syria that the israeli military has struck. but again, the details are coming through in dribs and drabs is spent ashley because we don't have anything official from the israeli government or from the israeli
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military acknowledging this attack. but i do want to kind of focus back on what the iranian foreign minister said yesterday, just hours before israel carried out this strike. listen english case of a repeated adventure seeking and adventurism of the they israeli regime, what will our maximum? >> responds to me. i can only say that will be carried out at a maximum level and it will be regretful for them then details have been planned by the armed forces. my country and so as we were talking about that, that was a pretty grave warning from the iranian foreign minister just hours before it appears because that israel carried out these strikes. >> and yet we didn't see that response from iran. we didn't see that immediate and overwhelming response. and part of that appears to be because of the way in which israel caroline so get out this strike by doing so without any kind of public fanfare, without any
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kind of public acknowledgement allowing iran to effectively save face in the process to avoid the embarrassment or meeting a sense that they would need to retaliate. once again. so again, for now, at least thing because appear to be quiet. i also think that one more point to make is the fact that the israeli prime minister, as he has been deliberating over the course of the last week, he has been facing enormous pressure from the united states and from other countries that help israel carry out that enormous and very successful air defense operation. in the early hours of sunday morning when iran carried out its attack with more than 300 drones and ballistic missiles and in those days, we have seen the united states, the united kingdom, and other countries beginning to level more diplomatic pressure for more sanctions on iran once again. and if you know anything about benjamin netanyahu, that kind of anti iran coalition has always been something that he has sought to strengthen in this. he certainly saw an
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opportunity to do so. and there's no question that if he had carried out a strike that had escalated things further than he could have risked that coalition crime humbling once again all right. >> jeremy diamond in tel aviv, kylie atwood at the state department. again, we are standing by to hear from us secretary of state, anthony blinken. these will be hang on one second. i believe the secretary is walking and let's put this up on the screen. there we go. anthony blinken is walking toward the microphone right now. his first comments since what appears to be some kind of a dsp military strike. >> good afternoon, everyone is a great pleasure to be here in capri, italy, and i want to begin by thanking our hosts prime minister maloney my friend and colleague, pharmacy honey for not only their wonderful hospitality, but also the remarkable leadership the g7 is, in many ways a steering committee for the world's most advanced democracies. >> and we emerge from this meeting of foreign ministers
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more united than ever, more united and facing critical challenges that why before the international community including russia's aggression against ukraine the conflict in the middle east as well the importance of sustaining supporting a free and open indo-pacific these and many other subjects were the focus of our conversations over the last two days, which i found to be extremely productive again, what strikes me the most and you can really see this over the last three years is the extraordinary convergence in our approaches to these challenges, convergence between the united states, europe, major partners in asia let me touch on some of the most important things that we discussed and concluded over these past couple of days. and of course, i'll i'll come i commend to you. >> the statement that we've put out or will soon be out on the part of the entire g7
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first, the g7 condemned the unprecedented iranian attack on israel, unprecedented in scope and scale scope because it was a direct attack on israel from iran. >> scale because it involved more than 300 munitions, including ballistic missiles, were committed to israel's security. we're also committed to de-escalating to trying to bring this tension two a close you saw as well, or you'll see soon and the g7 statement a commitment to hold iran to account to account for its destabilizing activities holding it to account by degrading its missile and drone capabilities and yesterday, the united states announced additional sanctions on iran targeting uav program's. >> the steel industry companies that are associated with the irgc, the ministry of defense and its armed forces logistics.
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the g7 statement makes clear that g7 countries we'll adopt additional sanctions or other measures in the days ahead even as we've been dealing with the conflict in the middle east and again, the unprecedented attack by iran and israel we've remained intensely focused on gaza we urge the rapid implementation of israel's humanitarian assistance commitments more aid or crossings, better deconfliction, better distribution of the assistance to all who need it we've seen important steps over the last couple of weeks with more crossings opening more aid, getting in, more aid, getting around, but we need to see sustained results. and we need in particular to make sure that there is distribution throughout gaza we also focused on the imperative of getting to a ceasefire with the release of hostages such as he's fire
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would facilitate the dramatic expansion the matter assistance. it would also let gazans return to the north. those who have been displaced from the north. >> the only thing the only thing standing between the gazan people and a ceasefire is hamas it's rejected. generous proposals from israel it seems more interested in regional conflict than it is in a ceasefire that would immediately improve the lives of the palestinian people it continues to move the goal posts and the world needs to know. and his understand again that the only thing standing between a ceasefire and gazan people is hamas the g7 is also very clear in its unwavering support for ukraine faced with aggression from russia putin thinks that he can outweight ukraine and out quake ukraine supporters. the message coming out of capri is he can't every g7 members making extraordinary
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contributions do ukraine's defense and as i've said before, this is the best burden-sharing that i've ever seen across the atlantic, more than 30 years of being engaged in these issues with europe, as well as asian partners picking up more than their share of the load i want to particularly recognize prime minister meloni for her leadership. her decisive leadership we can see two things, right now together. >> we are helping to put ukraine on a long-term path where it will stand strongly on its own, two feet militarily economically, democratically. more than now, 30 countries are engaged in negotiating and some of concluded negotiations with ukraine on security packs and together with what i'm convinced will emerge from the nato summit you can see ukraine effectively building a force for the future, one that can deter aggression and defeated as necessary we're working to
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drive private sector investment into ukraine and also help develop its own defense industrial base. in ways that will provide for a strong enduring economy. and of course now that the exception path to the eu is open, that will help ukraine deep root. it's democracy but even as we're doing all of that, we heard clearly from foreign minister kuleba that it's imperative that in this moment ukraine get more resources. >> that it needs to deal with the ongoing russian aggression it needs more air defenses. >> these more munitions. >> it needs more artillery allies and partners, including the g7 countries, are committed to delivering on that we discussed steps to provide more assistance, more immediately to ukraine we also discussed ways to protect and help restore its energy grid, which were also has sought to decimate & here
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again, i think we can see important steps that were already taken, but more to come and making sure that ukraine has sustainable energy for its people we're also working to strengthen efforts to disrupt the transfer of weapons. and also inputs for russia's defense industrial base. >> when it comes to weapons, what we've seen of course, is north korea and iran primarily providing things to russia but when it comes to russia's defense industrial base, the primary contributor in this moment to that is china we see china sharing machine tools, semiconductors other dual use items that have helped russia rebuild the defense industrial base that sanctions and export controls had done so much to degrade now if trying to purports a one hand to want good relations with europe and other countries it can, on the other hand, be fueling what is the biggest threat to european security since the end of the cold war? and you don't have to just take that for me. this is what i heard around the table
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at the g7 progress on solutions also to use russia's sovereign assets for ukraine was on the agenda and here, i think we're working on getting to an agreement on that consistent with international law, consistent with different countries, laws the kremlin has called this theft the real theft is in ukrainians lives taken in so much of ukraine's infrastructure destroyed in so much of its land seized being able to use these russian sovereign assets to help rebuild ukraine is critical and it's also something that one way or another, one day or another he's going to happen it's also a complement to but not a substitute for the assistance that we all need to be providing in the moment to ukraine. and in particular the
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supplementary budget request that president biden has made, and that it appears will be before the house this weekend again, i just want to emphasize two things. >> first this money and everything it'll provide his urgently needed by ukraine, by its people who are so bravely defending their country and defending their democracy 2nd, as i said, we have european and other partners, including an asia who are doing so much themselves to help provide for ukraine and finally virtually all of the supplemental will be invested in the united states in defense production in our own defense industrial base. and that means good jobs in the united states finally, we focused intensely over these last couple of days on reaching out to new partners and this includes in the indo-pacific where we're working to promote a free and open indo-pacific
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here. >> i think it's very instructive that the support that russia has received from china from north korea from iran demonstrates that security in europe security and asia and other parts of the world are indivisible. they're deeply connected. and this is something again that we heard around the table of these last couple of days the g7 is united on the need for peace and stability across the taiwan strait the south china sea, the korean peninsula and also united in standing up to china's unfair and non-market practices especially when it comes to overcapacity that is flooding the markets of our own countries with new products and technologies that are heavily subsidized. and so under priced driving our own businesses out of the market and seeking to dominate these markets themselves again, this is a very clear common concern among
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all of our countries finally, the other piece of this is that the g7 continues to work to deepen engagement with global partners to help deliver results everywhere. >> we had the, chair of the african union with us yesterday for very good conversations and what we're really looking at is working in practical ways with countries in africa and beyond to make clear tangible, deliverable improvements in the lives of their people and as a result, the lives of our own people we have the au, that's down member of the g20 we're particularly focused on how africa can play its rightful role in meeting both regional and global challenges. there's growing collaboration on infrastructure and technology to improve conductivity two build resilience we reaffirmed our commitment to sustainable development and especially to the sustainable development goals also to reforming the
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international financial institutions, multilateral development banks, to make them both more representative and more effective and responsive to meeting the needs of countries around the world addressing issues like climate change, dead, food security in all of these areas i found the conversations and the work over the last couple of days reflected in the statement that you're listening in to tony blinken speaking in italy right now. >> this is first remarks really from the united states, the top us official after the israeli strike in iran, let's bring back in kylie atwood, jeremy diamond back with us. they've been listening also with this retired us army major general james spider marks and also james clapper, the former director of national intelligence all standby. let's head back in because tony blinken taking questions, you very much. >> mr. secretary, there's a lot to ask you about today. >> so with your indulgence, first on, israel strikes in iran was the us indeed alerted in advance how far ahead of
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time and did it raise any objections when it was? are the strikes now, over& do you have any indication at this early stage via direct or indirect messaging that iran will respond and have there been any changes in iran's nuclear program? on israel. there are reports that your department has made recommendations to cut military aid to certain israeli units for possible human rights violations. and the west bank before october 7 will you take action on those recommendations? and finally, on the recent us assessments, you mentioned that china may be growing at support for russia, for its war effort in ukraine. do you believe that president xi is sensing an opportunity amid flagging us support to the ukrainians. >> thank you, sir. >> great. >> thanks, olivia on the first question, the reports that you've seen i'm not going to speak to that except to say that the united states has not been involved in any offensive operations what we're focused on, what the g7 is focused on, again, it's reflected in our
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statement and in our conversation is our work to de-escalate tensions to de-escalate from any potential conflict. you saw israel on the receiving end of an unprecedented attack. but our focus has been on of course, making sure that israel can effectively defend itself, but also de-escalating tensions avoiding conflict. and that remains our focus again, i'm not going to speak to anything other than to say we were not involved in any offensive operations with regard to the other questions first on china and russia look, i think that what we're seeing is a product of the relationship between those two countries. >> you've heard them speak to it, including just before russia's aggression against ukraine we'd made very clear to
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china and many other countries have as well that they should not be supplying russia with weapons for use. and it's aggression against ukraine we've not seen the direct supply weapons, but as i said, what we have seen is not only the direct supply, but the critical supply of inputs of components for russia's defense industrial base, which is allowing two things, it's allowing russia to continue the aggression against ukraine it's also helping russia overall rebuild it's defense forces and defense capacity that so much damage has been done to buy the cranium, but also by our sanctions and export controls and that means that not only as russia current threat to ukraine it will remain an enduring threat to other european countries. and that's why i said, china can't have it both ways. it can't purport to want to have positive friendly relations with countries in europe and at the same time be fueling the biggest threat to european security since the end of the
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cold war that was very clear from our conversations around the table i believe europeans have expressed that and we'll continue to express that clearly. >> to china in the days and weeks ahead oh, i'm sorry so on that i think you're referring to the so-called leahy law and our work under that. so this is a very important law that's one that we apply across the board and when we're doing these investigations, these inquiries it's something that takes time that has to be done very carefully. >> both in collecting the facts and analyzing them. and that's exactly what we've done. and i think it's fair to say that you'll see results very soon. i made determinations. you can expect to see them in the days ahead for the next question, oliviera burger meanie with rei tgi with afternoon two quick
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questions first, do you have the feeling that today's strike was limited so that you ran was not compelled to react in that sense, are you optimistic about not? a big war breaking out? >> and there isn't a real issue. do you think that in the future other countries like italy that has historical ties with the to play a role in that de-escalation and the stabilization that you mentioned. >> thank you. >> well, two things again, i'm i'm not going to speak to these reported events all i can say is that for our part and for the entire g7, our focus has been on the escalation on avoiding a larger conflict and actually that's been true since day one. after the horrific events of october 7, a big part of our approach has been to prevent the conflict from spreading, to avoid escalation everywhere. and that's a
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common policy across the g7& it's very much our approach now. so we've been engaged in efforts to avoid escalation. those efforts will continue italy plays a critical role in this. as a leading country, as a country that's engaged around the world with many other countries that have their own relationships with countries involved in the middle east italy has its own direct engagements i think what we've seen over the past ten days or so, a couple of weeks. >> is that those engagements have been and remain very important to keeping things calm, to avoiding escalation, to preventing a larger conflict. >> italy's an important player in this nadia bill bossy with al arabiya thank you, mr. secretary, i want to pursue again on the iran question, it seems that both the iranian and the israeli responses were
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measured& calculated what do you say that now we averting a measure confrontation& possible were and what is what the us played incentive to both sides, to four restraint. and are we back to the proxy war and if, if you allow me on rafah us position is very clear. you are opposed a military operation in rafah. as long as there's no plan to evacuate one-and-a-half million palestinian civilians. the israeli government is adamant to go ahead. what is your understanding of the plan now and what is acceptable for the us? >> and finally, on the un security council, the united states locks isolated yesterday your allies, close allies, france, japan, and south korea both voted for admitting palestine as a member. the israelis then you on the record saying they opposed two-state solution. >> so what is the path forward and what message do you give to
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palestinians? and two moderates in the region? if you, truly want to isolate extremist. >> thank you very much for the questions let me simply, first of all, repeat what our focus has been and what it remains de-escalation, avoiding conflicts. and so yes, calling on all concerned to exercise restraint that's what we've been doing over the last couple of weeks. and as necessary, that's what we'll continue to do. and again, that's reflected in the statement that you you'll see coming from all of the g7 countries on rafah we have been very clear about this president biden's been very clear about this we cannot support a major military operation in rafah first there are currently somewhere around 1.4 million people in rafah and many of them displaced from other parts of gaza in the first instance, it's imperative that people are able to get out of the way of any
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conflict and doing that, getting people out of harm's way is a monumental task. for which we've yet to see a plan. and not only getting them out of harm's way, making sure that they can be supported with humanitarian assistance if out of harm's way. >> but 2nd, even if people are largely out of harm's way inevitably there's going to remain a pretty significant civilian populace placement in rafah. and we believe that a major military operation with a large presence of the civilian population would have terrible consequences for that population. we are committed as israel is to ensuring that gaza cannot be controlled by hamas. we've seen the devastation and destruction that resulted from hamas leadership and the actions that it's taken well before october 7 what it was providing a rather not providing for the palestinian people made clear that it's concerned had nothing to do with the palestinian people and
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everything to do with its objectives to destroy israel so making sure that hamas cannot repeat the events of october 7. that's something that we were not united in, but in terms of major military operations in rafah it's something that we don't support and we believe that the objective can be achieved by other means. we've been engaged in conversations at senior levels with israel over the past couple of weeks on this, including as recently as this week those conversations continue finally, on the un security council resolution first, we are committed to the united states is committed to achieving a palestinian state. we believe that that is vital to having long-term sustainable, durable peace, and security. and of course, it's the only way to fulfill the aspirations that rightful aspirations of the palestinian people. but getting to that, achieving that state has to be done through
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diplomacy. not through imposition and the resolution that was voted at the security council will have no effect on actually moving things forward and achieving a palestinian state. again, that can only be accomplished by diplomatic means it's also important to point this out under, under united states law even if we'd wanted to vote for this resolution, had we done so? >> under our law, would have obligated us to cut off all of our funding to the united nations. >> clearly, not in the interests of anyone including the palestinians, particularly given the contributions we make to programs that are vital to them but as i said, we're committed to working to achieve a palestinian state with the necessary guarantees for israel's security and we've been working on that, including as part of the potential normalization process between israel and saudi arabia is something that we're intensely engaged on. over the last several months. and weeks.
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>> so you can see an important path forward that that's there and in fact we saw it in the wake of the unprecedented iranian attack on israel you can see for israel a future where a coalition of countries are working together, working together to deal with the iranian threat and to isolate it with israel. >> that's integrated into the region with normal relations with its neighbors and a resolution to the palestinian question, which is necessary to really deep root and achieved if that coalition that's an incredibly powerful future, it answers what israel as long sought which is to have normal relations throughout the region it deals with the single biggest threat to israel security. and for that matter, to the security of most countries in the region. and our own, which is iran and its proxies. but to get there it's
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going to require common gaza and it's going to require a clear pathway to a palestinian state. >> so we see that as one of the best ways to actually achieve results again, you can put something down on a baby, or listening in as the secretary state, tony blinken continues to take questions at the tail end of the g7 foreign ministers meeting, tony blinken saying the united states has not been involved in any offensive operations, but commenting beyond that on these really strike in iran overnight, he's not going there. >> cnn's kylie atwood back with us as well as everyone who's very kindly sticking around with this as well. kylie, what do you hear in the secretaries kind of non answer non answered. there's a lot there yeah. >> there's a lot there without there being much there, kate, as you said, the most notable line is that the secretary said that the us was not involved in any offensive operations, but he did not even directly
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acknowledge those israeli strikes against iran overnight pulling them quote, reported events. now, it's noteworthy that he is even approaching it this way. he said that the us has been involved in diplomatic efforts to try and de-escalate everything that is going on in the region right now. and the fact that he felt that there wasn't a need to give a diplomatic response sort of in-between the lines is a tacit nod to the fact that the us likely believes that this was indeed a response by israel that is not going to escalate the situation. by contrast, he came out of the gates in this press conference saying that the g7 condemned that attack by iran, that attack by iran against israel that happened over the weekend calling that an unprecedented attack, saying that the g7 stood by israel's security would continue to defend it so very strongly
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continuing to go against iran for those attacks that we saw over the weekend, but not commenting on what happened overnight. of course, we'll have to watch and see what comes out from that israeli sayyed because so far they haven't said anything about these attacks overnight. and the us is probably waiting to see what they do here. but this was a really interesting precedent conference by the secretary of state, essentially allowing these events to happen overnight without a elevated us response to try and bring down the tension in the region even more his paucity of words, his reluctance to say anything about it. >> he was almost a human de-escalation behind that microphone this morning, it seemed quite deliberately so spider, if i can bring you into this to help us understand the why of this, what could have israel hit, what didn't they hit in? what did they appear to do that the world this morning
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is reacting but then almost shrug well, the secretary of state needs to be reticent like he was. >> we can speculate, we can estimate. and that's what we're trying to do to put a little more color around this what was not struck last night where the nuclear facilities, the enrichment capability that the iranians have, and their delivery means for those. >> what was struck was a military base in close proximity to that nuclear capability. >> and they went after an airbase we went after middle production capabilities. they went after ground units and all of those were contributing elements to the attack that took place last saturday. so i think in the israeli calculation of proportionality is that it was a match that they went after that, which the iranians had used to assault
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the sovereignty of israel last saturday now a question to you, mr. clapper when you look at the situation, i think anthony blinken said the more de-escalation, at least a half-dozen times as he tried to answer questions how do you see this moving forward? >> are we going to start seeing this sort of proxy war return as opposed to israel and iran going directly at one another well, last night when i smoked it as speculated that perhaps israel and iran were getting past the messaging phase on the escalation ladder. >> well, i think we are very much still in the messaging phase and it appears to me that both israel and by its, the limitations on its strike or strikes as well as a ron's so far are non reaction to this tells me that they both want to step back from the cloth and
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avoid a wider war. and what this could mean& hope springs eternal is that they'll revert to the behind the scenes secret war that's gone on for 40 or 4405 years. at least. i hope that's the case that this doesn't get any worse than it is. and i think secretary blinken's non comment about this would tell me that one way to to tone this down is just not talk about it. >> you all can standby with us running in a quick break. we have much more on what is the watershed moment in this crisis in the middle east we'll be right back new ally in the fight against climate change. >> this is new car business
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iran started striking israel last weekend was on the phone with netanyahu, cautioning restraint, essentially providing the message that because it's real had been so successful in intercepting iranian drones that are retaliation might not be necessary. now, in reality, i think when you were talking to american officials over the course of the last week, no one here was under the illusion that israel would do nothing view among us officials with that would be limited response and certainly that had been a president biden's hope and he was trying to send the message just yesterday implementing new sanctions on iran that there were other methods of punishing that country aside from the military won one of the questions that blinken did not answer, that he was asked is whether the us was given a heads-up by israel on its decision to strike back. he didn't answer that, but we are told by american officials that the us did get a heads-up. but one interesting thing that we
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heard before blinken from the italian foreign minister was that it was quite a last minute heads-up and the italian foreign minister was in meetings all day with blinken. so he might have been in a position to know that that's interesting because of course, american officials throughout the course of the last week had been in touch with their counterparts, talking about american commitment to israel's defense and so i think this decision to remain fairly silent on this overnight strike is somewhat telling the us doesn't want to give a run any sort of pretense to claim that this was a us decision. certainly american troops in the region have been targets of iranian proxy groups. and there's no desire to put them in harm's way. and i think this decision, certainly by the white house, not to say anything about this strike overnight really lends to that sense that the us is trying to put some distance here. i was
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told earlier this morning that the us was not involved in the strike at all. you heard that directly from this secretary of state it as well. now we will see president biden later today. it remains to be seen whether he will say anything directly about this, but i do think it underscores the tenure this position that the president is in as he looks to prevent this conflict from widening from becoming a wider regional conflict. and i think the question that's hanging over the white house today is what iran will do next, whether this comms sort of an escalation ladder where each country goes back and forth as they try an r& up their attempts at deterrence. that is something that present so then biden has very deeply tried to avoid throughout the course of this conflict. and it's something that i think he'll be watching very closely today as well kevin liptak at the white house, kevin standby, keep us posted. >> what you hear in that building behind you. in the meantime, with his now is cnn's fareed zakaria hosted for isa korea gps and fareed, i
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just want people to know stock futures, no oil futures, i should say oil futures after shooting up ward of the attack overnight are now actually down, which indicates that oil investors are not too concerned about this escalating further between israel and iran. i don't want to talk about oil so much as what that might portent. how was the world now viewing this? what's your general feeling? this one? morning i think most people are viewing this as the kind of measured incremental response that that president biden administration had been urging the israelis to do. but we are in a different oh place. we are in a different strategic situation right now because ever since israel bomb the consular facilities ofran in sya we, are in a situation where israel in iran are now pretty directly and pretty openly hitting each other
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that's very different from the ten plus years shadow war that has taken place between iran and israel and so now the question becomes in these fairly direct attacks are they going to be measured? are there is, there is there bath to de-escalation as tony blinken was saying? or is it possible that one of these gets out of hand or maybe there's a miscalculation, maybe there's more damage than expected. >> it's still something that leaves me nervous because until now, you'd, the shadow war really wasn't the shadowed was often indirect, was often using proxies well, we now have is iran versus israel. each time one hits the other, the other fields, they have to do something that's the typical security spiral where one side does something that it believes it has to do. >> the other, sayyed can't do nothing then that triggers a
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further one. so you up to go up goes the ratchet so far it's been calibrated in calculated but it could get out of hand and freed what did you think of the deliberate choice by tony blinken in not addressing a lot of the aspects of what we know and what's being reported and only saying that the focus is on de-escalation and the united states was not part of any offensive action, just his approach today because what what is the fear the fallout would have been are the result or consequence would have been had 20 blinken come out and said more about what is largely widely reported of what happened last name the biden administration is great fear is that they the united states is going to get dragged into this in some way. >> and they're trying to be very disciplined about not getting involved. as you probably know, this has been reported the biden
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administration counseled israel not to engage in that strike on iran's consular facilities. it has been urging israel to have a very limited response to the iranian three and roughly 300 drones and missiles launched against israel so what it has been trying to do as much as possible sub-lists to keep this back back in the shadows and not to have the united states in some way involved because that then that's when you would see oil prices really showed up. in other words, that's when you begin to worry about a much larger geo-economic and geopolitical spillover. >> for you. it's great to see you as always. thank you so much all right ahead. >> donald trump returned to corp in new york, where there is now 12 people, 12 jurors that had been seated. well enough ultimately be selected today for opening statements to
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on their credit score on average, download the app today this is a travel show visit my fans around the world in a propaganda thing that's what i do, is my gif very soon donald trump will be back in a new york courtroom. >> the focus today shifts to the alternative five alternate jurors for his criminal trial need to be selected, although the judge says that number actually could even change a full jury of 12, seven menn, five women, plus one alternate, have been seated for the historic trial. >> if the five remaining alternates are picked today, opening statements could begin monday, seen as brynn gingras is outside the courthouse force once again, brynn, it was a wild day yesterday, a bumpy road to getting that full jury. so now, what about today? >> yeah yeah. >> bumpy is exactly how it's going to describe it. everyone thought this is actually going
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to take a couple of weeks though, right? and it's actually happening a little bit faster than its dissipated a full jury now in panel plus one alternate, and it's really just a cross-section of new yorkers. there's an investment banker or a speech therapist, a teacher, a lawyer there are some who are seated on the jury who had been open about the fact that they are not big fans of donald trump. one person saying they don't like his persona, another person saying they believe he's self-serving being in selfish when it came to being a public servant. there are people who said that they've read quotes from the art of the deal and they liked that he speaks his mind. so really diverse section cross-section of jurors here, like you said, seven men and five women. now, the task at hand today as you just said, is finding those alternate as many as five judge wants to look for. there are 22 people that are still have to go through that 42 questionnaires and that's what they're going to start with today. and then like you said, we could could have opening statements come monday, believe it or not, in this historic criminal trial, one thing to point out though after
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those opening statements are done, then of course the prosecution will call its first witness will at the end of court yesterday, the defense asked if they could have a list of who those first witnesses might be, and the prosecution essentially said no because we don't trust them fact that donald trump won't go on social media and talk about those witnesses. and the judge pretty much agreed with that and said that that's fine. so it's very possible we the public and the defense won't know who these first witnesses up will be when they are called. so this could be somewhat of a signal of maybe a contentious few weeks as this trial get started, kate. >> yeah, it's great to see you brand this is all going to be starting back up again shortly. friends are forced. john willis now cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, jennifer rodgers, counselor, that last point that brynn was making jumped out at me as well where the prosecution said, we're not going to give a witness list because we just can't trust the offense how rare is that? >> and what does that tell you about where things are headed well, they do have a witness
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list. >> prosecutors have to turn over their list of all possible witnesses. so the defense knows who's coming overall, generally speaking, what they said they didn't want to do is handover the order of the first witnesses so that defenses clarissa it up and said we'd like to know the first three witnesses and the prosecutor said, we don't want to do that because then we're going to see attacks against those people in the next few days and the judge agreed with them. so it's not that they don't know who's coming broadly speaking, they just don't have the order of the first few, but it is rare in most cases, the judge wants everyone to know what's coming so that things can run in a more orange orderly fashion and everyone's ready. it's only not happening in this case, of course, because of the repeated violations of the partial gag order in place about talking about witnesses who will be part of the proceedings. >> so what is your main takeaway from this jury now that we have 12 jurors, they're going to select the ultimate alternate, presumably by the end of today. but what lessons can be learned from the difficulty in then the speed with which they were selected.
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>> first of all, i think that judge martian is really in control of this proceeding. and on top of this, i was really impressed with the way that he handle this. i don't think we would have had a jury in a week in many other courtrooms. so i'm impressed with that, and i think i'm hopeful for the rest of the proceedings moving more quickly because of it. it's also a very heavily preferred sessional jury. usually you see a lot of government employees, a lot of retirees. we're not really seeing that here. these people have jobs and their jobs that require higher levels of education. so that's going to be important. i think this is a case about financial documents prosecutors are going to have to ask the jury not only to digest just these documents and find whether the defendant is guilty or not. but it includes this extra step of finding that the tension was to break another loss. so i think there'll be happy to have these jurors with a higher level of education and analytical skills so one juror asked to be off the case yesterday and other was removed after this strange
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back-and-forth and usa today actual spoke to that juror who was removed, who called the judge, had cowered in the interview with usa today so that was unusual. >> anything to take away from that? >> well, that juror also apparently said that he was annoyed about how much information had gotten out. he was fascinated by donald trump. i think now looking at the interview he did, which i hadn't heard about it's good that he was removed. he seems like a person of very, very strong views. i've been calling the judge a coward is is pretty interesting. so i think it probably was a good removal. >> jennifer rodgers, great to see you this morning again, we have a lot to talk about opening arguments could be as soon as monday. thank you. >> very much. >> thanks. >> all right. meanwhile, new information about the israeli strike on iran. a new our of seeing a new central starts now cnn breaking news we are.
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