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results for that report, a very disturbing report indeed, you can go to cnn.com for much more on this story and thank you for watching news night. >> laura coates live starts right now donald trump just violate the gag order and the hush money trial will tell you what he posted about the jurors. >> as raising serious concerns plus maggie haberman is here to answer your questions about the trial and justin, a new twist and the shocking idaho student murders bryan kohberger's defense haim, revealing his long awaited alibi, plus the nba does something it hasn't done in 70 years. they've banned a player for life over a gambling scandal. the story and the fallout tonight. and laura coates live all right, just in
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tonight, a social media post from donald trump that's raising a lot of questions about whether he violated the gag order. it is hush money case. he's quoting fox host jesse watters saying this. they are catching undercover liberal activists line to the judge in order to get on the trump jury unquote. now, that's completely unsubstantiated in charge. you do realize but does it also violate the gag order? i want to bring in formal power prosecutor, renato mariotti, renato, so glad you're here. i mean, frankly this question has been looming for some time. will he violate the gag order? has way he's done so far violate the gag order. now, this is opposed to truth social. there's absolutely no evidence of the fact that there are somehow these leaper jurors. so that's been a question people have had. >> but the gag order prohibits trump from doing this. >> let's read it for everyone to see what it's actually on the table here it prohibits that him from making or directing others to make public statements about any prospective juror or any juror
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in this criminal proceeding. so my question to you oh does this post violate that gag order on its face? >> i think it obviously does. and the question is going to be well, his lawyers be able to convince the judge that there are some question about it because he's technically quoting someone else unpack that for me because that phrasing of it has to or cause somebody else to do it. i think he'll make the argument. will he not that he's just re-posting something. >> he didn't make the statement. >> he didn't direct others to make the statement about a prospective juror or any juror in a criminal proceeding. >> what do you think will be the barometer? >> or to determine whether or not the re-posting or there quoting somebody else is him actually making the statement that's right. >> so i think this would be a much closer call, laura, if he actually was re-posting or retreat thing retweeting
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someone else's comment. in other words, let's say laura coates put something out there on twitter and then i just pressed the retweet button. is it my statement or am i just amplifying and somebody, your statement that will be a closer call. that's not what happened here. if you look at the post from truth social, he actually typed that out himself. for someone else using a social media account type that out word for word. and so putting quotes around it i don't think is realistically going to say that that's not your own statement. in other words, you are endorsing or approving the statement adopting the statement of jesse waters, i think that's how the da is going. argue it tomorrow. the da's team. and i think the judge is likely to agree yeah. >> by the way, it almost has that air of people say they say, and then you can fill in the next sentence on these notions. but the judge, this judge is already reprimanded trump for even muttering toward the der in the court remember
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there was the moment when a juror was brought before for them to be questioned about a social media post after that, juror left the courtroom, the judge said, basically it tell tell your client to stop it. i won't have any juror intimidated in this courtroom. so he's already expanded the gag order even before jury selection what is the judge going to do now? is this a slap on the wrist? is it a more calcified warning? what great question i under new york law, the statutory maximum fine is $1,000. >> and you know, and i know laura, that's not a lot of money to donald trump. i suspect some of his lawyer here's class more than that an hour. so realistically i think trump has no problem violating the gag order because he likes being telling people he's gagged. you likes trying to attack the integrity of the proceedings as part of a strategy that he has a pr press or political strategy the question here really is, and i suspect prosecutors are going to try to suggest some form of
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content. i think that's going to be difficult. that's usually something that occurs in the judge's presence. don't think the judge is going to go there, but i suspect the judge is going to try to suggest the stiffer penalties could come in the future. >> yeah, that graduated scale of punishment. and remember i mean, we're talking is way seven jurors that have presently been seated, you got to have a total of 18. that's the 12 plus the six. there are people who are going to be questioned tomorrow about their beliefs that jury questionnaire possibly. and then going pay on that. so those prospective jurors undoubtedly are hearing about this as well. we're not a mariotti. thank you so much thank you isn't trial that one from said that he wants to testify in his hush money trial, and that is his absolute right as a criminal defendant to do that or choose not to do that. but he might want to think twice about what that will actually mean for him if he takes the stand in the filing today, prosecutor said if he does take that stan, i want to bring up his past legal run-ins to try to discredit him
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before the jury, including a list of quote, all misconduct and criminal acts of the defendant which the people intend to use at trial to impeach the credibility of the defendant. now, i know when you here are the word impeachment when it comes to trump. but thinking about the political thing in the senate and the house, you've heard at least twice, right? this is not that kind of impeachment. impeaching a witness in a criminal trial means you're trying to present evidence that shows that they're not telling the truth. you do it when they actually take the stand. so imagine the scene playing out in the courtroom, right? you've got the former president is it an on the stand. he's questioned about everything from the new york fraud case when we're he's been ordered to pay hundreds of millions of penalties to a part of a unanimous civil a two-part. unanimous civil fraud federal jury verdict that found him liable for defamation to the tune of $90 million. and sexual abuse the writer e jean carroll, to gag order violations. the 2022 tax fraud conviction of his company. i mean, all of these things could be on the table if he were to
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take the stand. now, none of what i just described actually proves that he's guilty of the crimes he is charged with in this particular case. >> but the judge could choose to allow these things to be used to undermine his credibility on that stand. at the judge is going to hold a hearing to sort all this out and decide what comes in, what's got to stay out, and what is heard by the jury. >> and that could come frankly, as soon as what friday, if jury section is done by then it could also mean of course, a very pivotal moment in this trial now i want to bring in cnn legal analysts and see your focal rick correspondent for the new york times, maggie haberman. maggie, i'm so glad that you're here. you almost need introduction. when i talk to you about all the things i'm interested in. so i'm really glad you're here right now you know trump better than most you've written this fascinating book as well, that details so much of the political psychology of him as well. i'm wondering even if a small number of the prior cases
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get introduced are admitted in any way here and there's a pass legal run-ins. how do you think trump's going to handle that being addressed? >> it's an excellent question and thank you for having me. i think that he will not decide whether he is going to testify until he knows whether those cases are going to be allowed by the judge. i think that the sandoval hearing will be pretty revealing in terms of what he will be able to say on the stand and what he won't. we've already seen in these past cases, at least one of them in the e jean carroll case, a deposition he gave in the new york attorney general case was used in that case. and so we know that his passwords in things he has said and things that he has been accused of or found liable for can be very damaging to him. in other cases, i don't think that he is as likely to testify if all of these things are allowed to be asked about. if he does and he decides to go ahead with it. >> i think that he will say, you know, this is unfair, this is untrue. >> he will continue to deny the allegations in the e jean carroll cases. he has he will
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continue to say that the finding and the new york attorney general case is a witch hunt and unfair. i think you will hear very similar things to what we've heard before. >> as a prosecutor, almost on the one hand wanting to see, if you can poke the baer and get him to not to the attorneys party line and the other hand, it will become rabbit hole after rabbit hole, if he is allowed to testify on all these matters, you can't really constrain them in the same way, but in the court of public opinion, so to speak. even for these jurors, who will have to know just what's in front of them. >> they might know a great deal of this already, and he might be enticed into trying to change their mind. there's no question that donald trump sees himself as his best salesman. and we saw that in the e jean carroll case. the second one where there was a jury and then he was present for and he was clearly trying to make eye contact. he was trying to smile at people. he believes he is his own best salesman and that he thinks that some of these folks are his supporters. now what we saw in the e jean carroll case is it took that jury exactly a few hours to render a judgment of $83
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against him so i don't think his sales abilities work so well there i do think you're going to see him try to do something similar to your point about he could go down rabbit hole after rabbit hole. i'm confident his lawyers have told him that, but at the end of the day, he is ultimately the person who is on trial. and as you know, a lot of defenses since not just him want to defend themselves and they want to they want to argue in their favor. and i think that his lawyers are going to be hard pressed to stop and if he really decides that's what he's interests, they want their body language to speak for them. they don't want to be this stoic figure because people might attribute that to guilt or innocence. you never really know it's like you want to try to, you use his body and his weight to try to expression why i say things. but also being a salesman, i'm really intrigued on this because we know a little bit about the seven that have already been seated. they gotta have a total of 18, obviously, some are married, some single, a native new yorker, lots of new york times readers. one person says that she was unaware of trump's other cases. i'm going to call that one the van winkle
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of the actual crew so how is trump going to look at them as potential customers of his sales? >> so there were a couple of jurors who were excused. let's say there was one juror, a man who was a civilian photographer for law enforcement agency he knew some of the so-called central park five. the men who were exonerated after her having their conditions confessions, coerced, who trump took out a full-page ads saying that they should face the death penalty after they were arrested. he said that he had been an alternate and civil trial involving trump and merv griffin. i mean, he was fascinating. he was someone i think that the trumpeter trump legal team would have really liked he's, not, on the jury of the people who are on the jury. look the news reading habits of a lot of these jurors definitely is something that defense team is aware of. a lot of them are new york times readers. a lot of them are cnn readers. they would rather have people who are fox, news
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watchers or new york post readers, and there were a few of those they have been trying to look specifically for younger black men. and civil servants. whether we're talking about police officers sanitation workers firefighters, people who they think are white working class who might be part of trump's political base. that's not represented on this jury. so far, but there have been people who have said they think that it's fine that he speaks his mind or that they don't really have an opinion of him. there was one gentleman who said he was i think something like intrigued by trump the voiced some sort of curiosity as you know, defense lawyers, as much as they tried to figure out the best options for them with a jury, they get what they get. i think they see some options here for what they're hoping for, which is 100 why in the world do you think trump is fixated? not on the criminal trial in his at least posts, but jimmy kimmel and his oscar performance, i mean, just this morning, he was tweeting about
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this very thing, calling him the worst host ever of the ones vaunted academy awards. he's the middle of a criminal trial. maggie, why would this be is focus? >> for the same reason that he was focused on reports about his crowd size on inauguration day in 2017 or the same reason that he will focus on any number of criticisms from folks who are civilians while he was president in this case, i think it's because jimmy kimmel has spent a lot of time mocking the beginning of the trial, including the reports that trump was apparently sleeping. and i think this is just him lashing out about it. >> i have to ask you to quickly about the idea of him, his campaign now asking republican candidates if they want to use his name or likeness, they got to pay i don't remember seeing anything like that before. i mean, it's literally essentially attacks for candidates who, who want to fund. usually it's a ticket and the top of the ticket is supposed to help the people who are below and essentially trump is looking at as it all comes up. this is obviously a pretty trumpian business model. but i don't remember seeing it politicized in a campaign this
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way before, nor do i listen, maggie, stick around, please. i have a lot of questions at home. i'm sure you all do about this trial and maggie is going to help answer some of them right now, if you of course, want to participate, just go to cnn.com slash trump trial questions, fill out the form, typing your question there that will reach out to you. have you qualify as the trial? unfolds. let's go to our first caller tonight. we've got boom from toronto. hey, boom, what's your question well, the delay tactics of the trump legal team has failed to prevent the hush money trial from being before the 2024 election. >> do you think now at some 0.2 quick trial or really attempt to harp on every the detail which would have the consequence of keeping mostly unflattering topics discussed every day until the trial is over. >> that's a great question. i think ultimately he didn't want this to happen at all as a trial. and now that it's here, i think it probably be prudent politically to have the trial concluded before it drags on all the way up into the election, having potentially salacious details come out but
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again, maga want to hear your take on this point because the delay tactics did not work here. does he want this to go quickly now or draw out? >> no, he wants to draw it out. he was very explicit about that this week in court talking to reporters in the hallway outside the courtroom, he was criticizing justice motion for moving too fast. i mean, this is an extremely quick jury selection process so far it's very striking, but his folks want to delay for two reasons. they want a delay in terms of the election. they want to try to get this as close to the election as possible because they you think that that is politically more helpful to him. and they also want to try to have as many issues they can raise on appeal as possible. and so now an appeal would mean that they think that they have a likelihood of losing, but those are the options, those they're trying to preserve. >> let's go to clean from letting tin michigan. what's your question yeah, laura i was curious on why are they allowing mr. trump to speak before the trial and after the trial every day at the
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courthouse. that's a great question for maggie, who is the day because they trump allowing himself our his lawyers able to control them and not having talk. >> no. i mean, for the same reason that his lawyers often struggled to get him to follow their suggestions or warnings and we've seen that repeatedly. >> he considers himself his own best spokesman and lawyer and he wants to talk and he wants to defend himself and he wants a lot of media around this case, and he has said that explicitly to aides and advisors and allies. so if the day is his campaign, that's why, in terms of the media, there's a great public interest in this trial and the media is going to ask questions of the person who is the presumptive republican nominee for president. >> he's guy dance on the pin ahead of a needle though when you think about trying to abide by the gag order wherever the judge ultimately, what order i would suspect will be more opportunities to judge to say, listen, here's what you can and cannot do going forward, whether he'll abide by that, anyone's guess? greg from hartford where i was actually born heartbroken. i get what's your question, greg? >> how do you respond to the assertion from trump and his
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supporters that shows actions were harmless and charges were only brought against trump because he is a political opponent oh gosh, you know, i say this a lot that he's only being targeted for that reason, but this is not a law that was created just for donald trump. >> it's been on the books, has been prosecuted before. there are other issues surrounding it. so i think it really is a tactic politically to try to undermine the credibility the da's office and was being done here. but at the end of the de the jurors are going to have to figure out whether the prosecution has met their burden of proving that this was somehow actually criminal and died. could they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt, they can't rely just on one's gut. they have to prove it in this instance and he will continue to make this argument about him against the world as a proxy for every american voter. but the prosecution has got to make sure they can meet their case. heather from severe ville, tennessee. was your question? >> hi. i was just wondering, will the pool reporters allowed in the room be rotated
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throughout the trial and also how did maggie haberman and at the neuron day one, i'll let you answer the how, how do you get everywhere you need to be all the time so two answers there. there's. >> only pool reporters in the courtroom right now because there's jury selection going on when there's not jury selection going on, there's going to be upward of 60 reporters in the courtroom every day. the rest of us for now are in the overflow room and many of us will be there throughout the trial. i will be two. i happen to be in the pool rotation on monday afternoon. it was just my slot my colleague, joan of bromwich had done the morning full rotation. the new york times was part of the pool that de i'll be part of the bull again tomorrow when time saw you what it was the reaction. i'm always curious. >> he stared at me for a few seconds and then he left the courtroom. >> a good stare i don't feel i'm capable of assessing the stair. >> he didn't look happy i come with you next time i'll assess that stair. thank you so much, maggie. thank you. for helping to answer these questions and
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on their favorite sport. difference at moon pod blue carbon by cnn film, sunday at nine we'll just in a new twist in the murders of four college students were university of idaho lawyers for the man charged and the killings have revealed his alibi in a brand new court filing we have before us right now so ending us now, cnn's veronica miracle, who has covered this case extensively, and criminal defense attorney jack rais. >> thank you for both are being here this evening. veronica. this story has really it just captivated the nation for so many reasons. and i want to begin with you. >> what do these new documents reveal? well, laura kohberger's attorneys say they plan to bring in an expert witness who will be able to prove that kohberger was not in the city of moscow the night of
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the murders, but with actually to the west of moscow, they say that he was out driving as he quote, often did to hike and run and/or c the moon and the stars. and their expert witness, who goes by the name of psi ray. he co-founded a company called z x, which claims to be able to track cell phones are tracked advices and generate leads and solve very complex cases. now, they say that ray is going to be able to testify that colbert burgers cell phone did not travel east on the moscow pullman highway the night of the murders, and therefore, his car could not be the one that was captured on surveillance video the night of the murders on that highway, laura jack, what do you make of that alibi i mean, obviously, you often use cell tower data in the prosecution of cases to pinpoints someone's location through sort a triangulation of sorts. what's your take here yeah, absolutely. >> laura, i mean, we're talking about that triangulation. the idea of
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knowing exactly where somebody is based upon cell phone towers. this is critical because there's a lot of circumstantial evidence in this case. and if the defense can keep him away from the crime scene on the 13th of november 2022? >> that is critical. but at the same time, you're going to see a battle of the experts. there isn't a ton of forensics in these cases. this is one of those and making it that very notion. i mean, you've got prosecutors arguing that cell phone data did ping at the scene of the crime the night of the murders, but they all say they found his dna on a knife sheath near one of the victims. i do wonder in terms of how people are going to view the data. and again, this trial is not begun. we don't have all what they're going to be able to provide. and i've ultimately approved. but how do you weigh these two things in front of a jury? the notion of dna or the cell tower data again, this is all that forensics in the middle of a trial right now.
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and so i think about this in juries are always going to try to bounce what that means. and when we think about where we're going, there's certainly the lean into that dna because that piece is critical. but the defense has already made an argument about that piece, but that's actually not the first fight what we have coming up in june is this. there's gonna be a fight over venue there in moscow right now, but they're trying to move this case to boise. the idea to someplace bigger, someplace where it hasn't been overlaid and it's everywhere. but you got to remember, i'm from minneapolis saint paul. i dealt with the george floyd case. they tried to move that case either guess what? in that case, the judge said, no, thanks. it's going to stay right here. >> well, a fellow man from the twin cities like myself, i'm from st. paul veronica and even covering this so closely. thank you for your continued reporting because this has really now only rock the community of moscow and the university community. but the nation is following very closely as to what will happen next. veronicaacle jack ryan. thank you both so much
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try free at fubotv.com how it really happens. sunday, april 28, bit nine on cnn one of the cardinal sins of sports is rocking the nba tonight. >> the league is doling out a lifetime ban for one of its players over a gambling scandal and investigation really revealing the jontay porter of the toronto wrapper is did raptors did think as you definitely are not supposed to do as a player among them, he disclosed confidential information to betters, including telling one better
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about his health status before a game. he also limited his presentation in at least one game for betting purposes and he bet on nba games at least 13 times and one nearly 22,000 bucks in the process that he didn't bet on the games he played in, but he did bet on the raptors to lose three times. all of that, a clear violation of the rules was say, let's has players cannot wade your money or anything of value on any game in any league operated by the nba. and the nba players association says, it, quote, will make sure jontay has access to the resources he needs during this time in light of the nba as decision, porter is the first player in 70 years to get booted from the nba for gambling. nothing has changed since then. >> the absolute explosion in sports gambling, which is supreme court allowed states to legalize in 2018. >> and this is not your grandparents betting world people can bet on any part of
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the game from who will win to even player performances, or a specific events during me now, shams urania, senior lead nba insider for the atlantic, he broke this story is also a partner and online gambling company fanduel sham. this is pretty unbelievable to think about this happening. and now a lifetime ban, we've heard from at least one retired superstar about this. here's what shaquille o'neal had to say before the nba announced this punishment, listen if you were teammate of a guy in the story came out would, how would you feel about your teammates if it ended up being true to the face that. >> i'm conversation, number one, why? you just messed up your money, you mess up your family's money and you got some people looking at us your the nba scoop machine that idea, if people look at it us, he's thinking that people will book look at not just this player, but others as well.
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well, in this specific situation, like you said at the top, this is a cardinal sin. this is something adam silver then may commissioner, he had the right of jurisdiction to really conduct any type of discipline that he wanted. he could have suspended jontay porter for games. you could suspended him for a year, two years. he chose to issue a i've time ban in the nfl. players have been suspended for betting on nfl games. they've gotten about a year and sometimes even get reduced penalty. but in the nba, it's been made clear, it's a message that everyone around the league got today from players to coaches, to every executive around the league. they understand betting on games in the nba. the wnba, or the nba. g league, it is absolutely a no tolerance policy. you will be banned for life and that's what happened with jontay porter and the nba's has also given all of their evidence to the federal investigators that were taking
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part in all this and there isn't active investigation is still ongoing with the league. and with the federal investigators to see if there was anything criminal that went on because yes. not only the jontay porter bet on game, not only did he tip betters off about potentially him being sick, his illness, or any type of absence or any potential strategy but he also potentially pull themselves from a game. and that is something that federal investigators are still looking into. >> the lifetime ban. i'm wondering what the reaction from other players. all right, this sounds quite the message and so does the seriousness of the things that you're describing. this not only makes this particular player suspicious to any fan or anyone watching, but now others are watching a figure out is he the only one and players, by the way, are supposed to go through some sort of antibonding training before the start of the season. is this becoming a bigger problem in the league, knowing how much gambling has exploded, at least among the fan base there, maybe for sure,
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easier access to gambling, to legalize gambling, there's more states that are legal when it comes to gambling. >> but in this matter, people died, talk to around the league. >> i think even the league itself, in their investigation, it was clear the types of things that were going on in this and that this investigation showed. >> it showed the jontay porter may just have a problem when it comes to gambling, an issue that he had. i mean, when it comes to not only did he bet on games, he bet on his own team to lose in a potential game. and obviously the raptors are one of the worst teams in the nba this season. so there were multiple things here that johnson they porter violated. he got a lifetime ban really, this is unprecedented, especially for adam silver, the second lifetime ban he is issued just thinking about. the number involved because that aside for a second, even the allegations you heard shack say you mess up your money and your family's money. let's talk about the money because
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according to espn and the atlantic, his contract with the raptors was valued at $415,000 seeing it hasn't be able to verify that, but he only won $21,000 from bedding. now, i'm not suggesting this is chump change for the average person. this is significant amounts of money, but still compared to what he is losing now and what he gained from beading why on earth would a player risks their entire career? >> to bet on a game laura, that's the question. >> everyone is asking. and sure. could there be another example down the line potentially, but there's a lot on the line for nba players. not only is it their career, the average nba salaries, about $56 you get a pension when you play for a period of time. there's all these bends the best that comes with being an nba player to throw that all the way for jontay porter. finally, he, he had some footing indian be on the two-way contract with the robbers. any did play at a solid level to really throw that away and blow it. i think
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everyone is keeping an eye on this for sure. from jontay pores perspective. and the nba above everything, sent a message today even though it wasn't intended, that if you do this, essentially, you will be banned for life. >> and that pantry i think goes away now the band means everything's done. is that right? >> he is no longer eligible design nba contract. he did not play long enough in the league to become eligible for the tenure pension but i think for jontay porter, that's something that he's obviously going to have to deal with and the nba made it very clear today it's really unbelievable. think about this. i have to wonder, is this the end of it? this a one-off or otherwise, and probably the worst thing about it for other players is to be now under any kind of even hint of a cloud of suspicion based on the conduct of another player, even within the league shams. sure. one, i thank you so much for joining us thank you wael stormy daniels is one of the key
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yeah. i can do a cartwheel in here would you like to join us now? we would love to join you cnn this morning with kasie hunt tomorrow at five easter the curtain rises on donald trump's historic criminal trial with a slew of high-profile witness is expected to be called by prosecutors, but you know, all eyes are on the woman at the center of this tree trial, some say, stormy daniels is she, ready to take the stand i'm absolutely ready. >> i've been ready. i'm hoping with all of our that they call me to. >> have where jewish for joining me now someone who chronicle term daniel's is battle with the former president to time, emmy nominated filmmaker and producer of the documentary stormy. erin lee car. the film is now streaming on peacock, aaron, thank you for joining me this evening. she is said you heard her. she's hoping not
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look odd or testify she's ready to testify. she says, are you confident that she can handle what's coming i mean, of course she can handle its coming it's a thrill to be here. >> thanks for having me. stormy has been dealing with this for so many years and the time has finally come to sort of say in a courtroom with donald trump this is what happens. so i think that while it's been enormously stressful and there's been an unleashed amount of vicious insults kind of given her way. she is ready you're right in terms of what she has been grappling in width and lip since you came into the limelight for this particular reason and i assume there's some level of catharsis and doing this testimony, if she actually is called, but there's also this documentary that everyone's been talking about. it came out last month. >> since that she's appeared on the views and other appearances do you have concerns about the amount of media that she's doing leading
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up to this testimony, could could it possibly hurt her in the end? sunlight is the best version of disinfectant. and i think that storming needed to put her story out there because she is legitimately afraid of what will happen to her. and so for her to be out in her book in the documentary to be called as a trial for this witness. no, this is good for her. this shows the american public was happening and i think so many people have often been like stormy daniels did this for attention. i mean, just watched the documentary, look at the attention she's gotten. i mean, death threats against her, her family. anybody close to her? her marriage was ruined. and so this was really about standing up to a bully and while those around stormy would be i'm i'm a little nervous. i think that we're all excited that she gets to do this. and i think it's going to be an incredibly big de in american history. >> it's certainly will be on a number of other days and
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historic nature. i'm an american present in a criminal trial hello, former president at that really, really historic for so many reasons. and there have been other idea of attention documented plans out the nature of the attention, who would want this level of attention that she is receiving. >> but people over in critical and have talked about how the timing of this particular documentary lyons up in many ways with the start of this trial, that was not a consideration. >> i can imagine or was it you know, we we put the movie out on international women's day and we were really excited to do that. and we've been working on the film for years. and so we had gotten done and it was it was time to play but the film out. and i think that it wasn't something that we wanted to do right before the trial, but the film was ready and it needed to be out in the public for people to understand what's going on. >> she also is no shrinking violet for a number of reasons as you well know, and we've
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seen on social media, people are vicious. they have gone after her for a very long time. she is quick to reply to those who are harassing her. in one instance, a person message her on x she replied as well. why does she do that? i'll just read. it, said something like keep reading it here, keep 2nd in but i can't see you guys. i'm old, so i go back down. i can't see this. thank you so much. well, i'm not that old. >> one instance, a person messenger on x saying sad de, when fools believe a stripper before they believe that president keeps sucking up the lies, she then replied, sad day when a stripper is more honest than the former impeached, indicted president. >> so she's going right back at it. but why do you think she does that? >> she doesn't, because twitter is a blood sport for her. she loves it. i mean, if this is a story that is about standing up to a bully when you look at former president trump and his ability to use truth, truth, social she's gonna do the same thing by her network on twitter. and so i think
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it's a little bit of a mosque to the fire are sort of situation in the film, you see people saying things like you just signed your death warrant and then an expletive and so while i would personally shy away from that, she says, no, i'm not going to and these are people well that are not even putting fake profiles. these are people with their real name saying these things to her. so she's going to respond and i think that's incredibly brave. >> i have to wonder, i mean, given all of after this trial is over, do you think she has some some chance at being able to move on and have privacy ever again. >> that's the extreme hope for us. i mean, before the trial happened, people tried to lure her house excuse me, laura, her horse, and shot her horse while all this was going on. she just wants to ride down to the sunset the on her horses, have her family. she does not want to be he just don't for this
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one night that happened. so we hope and we dream that there is a life beyond this and we end time will tell it will. and that clock may come much sooner with the trial and the pace that it is right now. aaron le carre. thank you so much appreciate you. well, she's a record breaking superstar number one draft pick and cultural phenom. and caitlin clark's first-year wnba salary $76,000. the nba's top pick 12 million. >> the anger over the pe divide next one. second grandma this guy's going to buy my car. >> okay. do you need carbonic entering plate number no accidents, right? no generating offer. guard mana can pick it up tomorrow. >> that's an amazing offer. >> sell your car the easy way with carbon looks like allergy
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76,000 for the season. now, how much did last year is number one draft pick for the nba? victor wembanyama wake after his first year, a whopping 12 million so even the very last draft pick for the nba last year, chris livingston sign for $1.1 so i can someone who hasn't had firsthand experience with these very deals, professional basketball player and the wnba's 2009 number one draft pick, angel because i'm so glad that you're back. nice. see you angel. i mean all the buzz, the attention to bring more attention to the wnba, a great thing but this has been a long-standing issue. it's not the epiphany for the players, is it? >> it's been an lost nine extending issue america. we've been talking about this for over 20 years finally, you guys are woke, but let me put it this way. the dumbbell has been
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around for 25 years. we are farther along than the nba has been in its season. the nba did not get popular to the late 70s, 80s, with magic johnson and larry bird? so now we're getting that popular stretch. so let's push guys, let's get these girls their first million-dollar contracts. i just be my 5% a little bit of an agent fee. >> i'm with you on that, but liable. look at this and say, well, hold on you're wrong lard to compare the nba, the wnba, there are differences from the games played each season. the amount of money made on media rights attendance as well. >> but what does the wnba need to get these female athletes a fair pay? like any business guys marketing, marketing, marketing, people want to know who they're going to watch. you guys have a metlab ram personally, but you feel like, you know him, you know, the guys you're going to watch when i go out and meet people, once they meet me, they want to come to a game because now they know who they're 20 cheering for people know caitlin clark, angel reese. so now they want
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to go to these gangs because now they know who these girls are marketing, look at where we are without the marketing dollars, and it still works. so imagine if the marketing dollars are pushed into us, this brand will work. people love women's basketball. >> do you think that a rising tide was going to lift all boats here? i'm obviously people are about caitlin clark, angel reyes draft picks right now. >> but will this be helpful for the entire league? >> that's my concern absolutely is helping the whole world knows caitlin clark, angel reese. >> they are like the modern day magic xos salary birth. so we need them to help keep pushing this game but the only thing is the other girls complaint to someone just told me yeah, the girls are playing now, it wouldn't be playing that way, playing like this. you guys just didn't know. what do you mean? it's been exciting. people do come wants to sewa in the wnba. so now you guys are noticing cone wants these girls because they're exciting to watch and guess what sometimes you do get some ducts and dumping the games brittney griner, kentucky other girls, a young, they're getting up there, can watch these games. they're i'm excited every time
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i go with my family to support and be a part of it as well. >> but you also describe a lot of pressure of being a rookie in the wnba when forget all the attention and even march madness now you're talking about the big leagues among women who have played for a long time. and we're stars in their own right. i wait to listen to what caitlin clark said on the pat mcafee pat mcafee show, excuse me, about how she handles all of well, the negative attention as well yes. >> growing up, my mom always said like people want to see you fail, like you know, let's just kind of how our world is, which is really sad but at the same time, like i don't, i don't like think about that type of stuff like i just go out there and to me i know with kid, what do you make of the mountain expectations that she has on her shoulders i want to say america, please stop putting unnecessary pressure on caitlin clark. >> i hear people talking about she needs to be in the nba, can see just adjust to the nba. these girls come play. they're more athletic than college
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there faster and there's smarted in the college game, let her get in there and adjusted, see what it's like on another level. >> it really important point, give it the time to do so. i had sham sure. anya on a few moments ago and he broken out the big story tonight that caitlin clark is likely getting a huge deal with nike worth eight figures and she gets her own shoe. i mean most worth murky is don't ever get a deal like this, let alone any other wnba player. what would this mean? >> it's huge for us. i know when i was really come in coming in, i had a seasonal like caitlin clark were accept my team out of nowhere. it went to a final for this, some amazing things. we didn't have the nil or the social media hoods only made 44,000 as number what pick and we fought for this. we all these women before kaitlan, we fought for them to get this and they deserve it. and we want to i'll just continue to see a girl, even the usa basketball team they don't have a documentary, they didn't have to redeem. they one go, how many gold medals and a row? and they've never been on a wheaties box ways. where are you? put my women's national basketball
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team on the wheaties box. they've never had to redeem a gold medal. so let's start valuing these women look, i'm from minnesota general mills with the wadi boxes are made even i'm on a windows box to me, it was just one was made just for me. it was a whole thing. but of course, you should be on this box, general mills, we hear you, we see you. a minnesota is asking why not make it happen, please. my goodness. >> where is that? wheaties box in my cabinet, by the way? angel, there are loud whispers about why the attention around kaitlan is bringing this all up that have preceded her thletes including yourself, you to wear a number one pig. i wonder. is there any, any part of the conversation happening where players are on the one hand, delighted that there's a pension that has been increased on the game. >> but is there any level of resentment that it's taken this long for people to either acknowledged the mighty nature of the skill of all of you at this particular level. i put it like this. if you don't have
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some haters, you ain't doing something, right? she's going to have haters because she's doing everything right. he's a superstar. >> but i would say for myself, i'm delighted what she's done and it's going to help our game is going to help these other girls to get the attention they deserve to really important such an impressive athlete you've always been, i cannot wait to see what happens. that's the wnba general mills. we told you what we'd like. thank you so much. thank you so much. >> thank you for having hey, before we go tonight, i want to welcome margo daisy fig leaf, oleh to the world. margot was born today into the loving home of laura coates, live producer, my big lila and his wife, audrey. we're sending them lots of congratulations and love from all us thank you so much for watching our coverage continuous good evening from tel aviv where the que

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