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states plus 30-day money-back guarantee >> i'm dr. sanjay gupta >> and this is cnn in the from coast-to-coast today, pro-palestinian demonstrators may their views known, they block traffic on san francisco's golden gate bridge in nearby >> along oakland to interstate 80. at the same as chicago leading, some travelers headed to o'hare airport to get out of their cars so walks to the terminal. another protests on wall street in new york, cnn's veronica miracle joins us now from the golden gate bridge with more so to talk a little bit about the protests on the bridge, what happened? >> well anderson 26 people were arrested here on the golden gate bridge. several of those people had actually chain themselves to each other and two cars that we're part of the protests that were parked on the bridge, stopping traffic of both directions this
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happened during the monday morning rush hour commute started around 8:00 a.m. and didn't now resolved until about 12:30, lasted a long time and the california highway patrol says this was part of an organized event, one that happened here, but then also there was a separate for protest on another major thoroughfare in oakland on the i8 and their protesters that actually chain themselves to 55 gallon barrels full of concrete and re-bar making it very difficult for authorities to clear that roadway take a listen to what the chp had to say about these protests >> you can protest any which way you want, but it is unlawful to brock blocker roadway and to prevent people from getting to work emergency personnel from getting to help people. you can't do it >> the protests are say this is part of a worldwide movement in solidarity with palestine. anderson
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>> there were number of other progesterone the country, yes >> there were actually across five major cities at least. and in those fivmajor cities, least 140 people we arrested. two of t protests were actually around major so airports including see tack in setle and o'hare international in chigo, where travelers were seeg having to get out of jr.'s, take their luggage and try to walk into fake th're flights. a lot of cities impacted today, anderson veronica miracle. thank you. the news continues right here on cnn >> i'd find next breaking news trump, trump hunting for one holdout as more than half of the potential jurors today are out saying they cannot be fair and impartial so so who is left? we're going to break this down for you and it's not if but when israel will retaliate against iran regional an edge tonight is iran warned, don't cross any red lines so report on what's happening inside iran tonight, coming up
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>> plus truth, >> social shares plunging today, hundreds of millions of dollars erase from the company's market value as trump followers buying up burnett outfront tonight. the hunt for trump's jury, his criminal jury. and we're down to 30 to potential jurors from this morning's 96. and tonight, the first-ever criminal trial of a former president is officially underway. now, trump please required to be there every single day. in fact, he can actually be jailed for contempt if he doesn't show up today when the judge read him those rules, he was emotionless as he agreed, according to the new york times, he actually chuckled when the judge told jurors that he will ensure a fair trial. then when he left the courtroom, he went to the cameras to speak out about it >> it's a scam to political which it continues and it continues forever. >> i'm not going >> to be given a fair trial >> will ask you a fair trial, the jurors in that room seemed to take their duty as citizens deeply seriously. trump,
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according to the times, appeared irritated throughout the day, paying a lot of attention during jury selection, but did appear to doze off a few times this morning before jury selection began. but then we know trump turned to watch. is that first group entered the courtroom and that was around two 30 eastern time today, many prospective jurors in the back row stretch their necks, lifted their head. they were trying to get a look at the former president. one woman giggled. >> our pool >> reporter was saying, putting her hand over her mouth, looking at the person next to her with raised eyebrows the reality of it is this. there were 96 possible jurors initially brought into that room, and at least 50 their hands when asked specifically about whether they would be biased are not able to be impartial. they >> said that they couldn't be. and that's honesty. and of course trump only needs one juror to vote against conviction to win. and even based on how manhattan voted in the last election, as are harry enten is pointed out, a random group of 12 manhattan knights would include a trump supporter that you'd like to think this is not what a jury is going to come down to, but it's still
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important to point out in the context of the words from the former president and here is some of what we do know about the jurors who were excused today. >> one potential juror it was. heard in the hallway saying i just couldn't do it while leaving the courtroom. a few others were excused due to personal conflicts. so now you say, what do we know about the 32 remaining, some of whom might actually be on the final jury. >> well, here's a little bit of what we know. we know there's a woman among them who told the court she lives in midtown manhattan, married without children, works in business development for a venture capital firm >> says she likes >> going to restaurants in the city. another woman living on the upper west side of manhattan married without children. she works in city government so she likes cooking, artwork, and going to shows. and then there was a man in midtown manhattan. he says he's married with a child and works as a creative director telling the court he enjoys hiking and cooking. all three get their news, they say from the new york times and cnn. and to also listed the wall street journal and google now that is that is a manhattan standard operating procedure could come people, but that's what we know
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so far. paula reid is out front outside the courthouse, and paula, i knew i was there with you today and now you've gotten even more information here as those jurors left the room trump making some false statements outside of court where you are about what the judge will and won't allow him to do. so what's the reality of the situation >> aaron it was kind of surprising after everything that had happened today, what trump was focused on when he walked out of the court was the fact that he is required as a criminal defendant to attend every day of these proceedings. plus, he has granted a waiver. >> once he >> walked out of the courtroom, he repeatedly claimed that the judge is preventing him from attending his son barons high school graduation problem, erin, is that the judge hasn't ruled on that issue. the judge said he can't rule on that at this time, but that didn't stop one of trump's adult sons from amplifying that falsehood on social media. how trump's lawyers also asked if their client could get a waiver for next thursday. the supreme court arguments on whether trump has presidential immunity to shield him. and one of his
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three other criminal cases, the federal election subversion case. but they're the judge did rule and he said that he will see trump back here in new york york next thursday. he said, look, there's no requirement for you to be other supreme court argument, but you are required to be here as a criminal defendant. so i think this is going to be a pet issue for the former president, something we're going to hear a lot about as he tries to continue to frame themselves as the victim of an unfair system. >> yeah absolutely. and fastening paul, of course, part of the reason maybe no ruling yet on his son's graduation is they don't know whether the trial will still be going on when his son, barron graduates from high school. all right. thank you very much. paul up and i've got our outfront experts here. you're going to be covering this trial with us. i want to begin with robert hirshhorn, though, a jury consultant and robert, i know you've got four decades of experience. the william kennedy smith rape trial, the george zimmerman trial. >> so you've been doing in this a long time. you get 96 is the first group, right? they're going to keep going by groups
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of about 100 until they're able to seat the full jury of 12. and then alternate. you were actually surprised that only 50% of the potential jurors are a little bit over were let go because they couldn't be fair i was here and thanks for having me back on the show. you did a great job today reporting from outside the courthouse? >> yeah. because it's trump keeps talking about how he can't get a fair trial and added the first 96. there were only 50. that was excused. i would have expected more like 75 or 80 that would said they'd formed an opinion. so maybe saying for the camera, he can't get a fair trial. >> but aaron, >> i think the man can. >> you think he can >> yeah. mimi westchester de do you agree with that too, from what you from what we saw today and more than half of them immediately raised their hands yeah, i do agree with that. it's a little bit of a look at this glass half empty or half full, and i was i'm looking at this as half-full that there are first of all, that so many people were presumably honest,
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i'm sure there's some people that just wanted to get off because serving on any jury is burden some four people but presumably a lot of them are honest and that's how we're going to get to a fair and impartial jury. and i say that not just based on this case or what happened today, but really based on 20 years of watching juries, joey jackson may have a different view, but i think that when the judge instructs people that whatever your personal beliefs, you have to put that aside and decide this case based on the evidence in the courtroom. and that only i call me sentimental, but i believe that that has quite an impact on people get sworn in as they were today for that joey what do you think? obviously you've done this for a long time as well with jury selection, you also know judge martian, who is obviously the judge in the case. >> yeah. i think he's a person of great competence and of great faith. i think that'll be important as we move forward, but look, here's what i view.
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i think today the system worked and why do i say that? yes, i'm a defense attorney everyone's presumed innocent until proven guilty. we can agree to that. but the reality is, is that this judge has been really gone out of his way to be fair. why generally speaking, when you have prosecutors and defense attorneys in a courtroom and people say, i can't be fair. the judge says, come here, let me talk to you then in speaking with that person in essence, rehabilitates them to get them on the jury. this judge said, look, to any person who does that because i want to have abundant caution for the fairness of this trial. what i'm going to do is to just excuse them. and so i think that's a system that works. and how else does it work, aaron? it works because in addition to those that are excused because they noted did they can't be fair and have bias. you have these challenges four cause. what does that mean in english? it means that of jurors can't be fair in an unlimited fashion. if you could demonstrate that they have some kind of bias based on further questioning, they will be excused as well. and so i do
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believe that in essence, you're going to have a fair jury and impartial jury. >> we'll be >> able to adjudicate this case on the merits in the courtroom as ac >> and what did you notice from the former president today as he watched, we know we understood maybe in the preamble to the jury selection, he may have dozed off a couple of times, but when the jury walked in, it appears he was very focused. he was focused at the very start when he and his lawyers for stood up and were introduced to the group of 96 people but i do have to say that as that process itself dragged on, trump did continue to look a little bit perhaps board he closes eyes again. i wouldn't say it was necessarily asleep, but it's a long process. it's a long day for everyone involved. but tomorrow is going to be a full day of jury selection with each of these potential jurors being questions probably throughout the entire day. and that might keep his his interest up a little bit more, especially if someone one of these jurors that comes out as being pro
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trump he's gotten excited about that and pass trials. the e jean carroll trial when they were identified. and of >> course, all he needs is one in this case because it's criminal. one juror to vote on his behalf if there could be an anti-trump der to who who votes. >> that's right to your point of how seriously people take it, right? what about the timing here? i mean, now we're one day in we went through 96 people, 32 of them or come back tomorrow self to be questioned. and then there's another group of 100 that can keep feeding until you finish the selection. and that's just the selection originally, everyone thought this was done by memorial day, is it >> turned to know i mean, the judge did say that he expects the trial itself to take six weeks after the jury is seated. and now the big question is, how long? we'll take to seat a jury there was some speculation myself included that there might be people who really want to be on the jury and faster didn't seem to play out today. i didn't seem as though these individuals, i thought there would be some people who would think there was a moment to be part of history and maybe there will be, but it wasn't the initial impact that you got
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from that robert what did what did you make of what one thing that you saw in this courtroom? and i'm going to ask about the few jurors that we know of specifically who may still be on the case, but overall, this was a very diverse room, just like any group of 96 people in manhattan is going to be and you think that's good for the defense? >> i think it's good for bulk. look, what you're not guaranteed of a jury of the people you want on it. what you're guaranteed is a cross-section of the community that's who showed up. the people that expressed an initial opinion like joey was saying that they can't be fair they got excused. >> there's a couple more >> opportunities for those for more jurors to be excused for challenges for cause, which by the way are unlimited. there's no number that peremptory strikes. those are the ones that are ten. but if a juror has a bias expresses any type of bias that's called a challenge for cause. it's unlimited. so you've got the question shooting that's gonna go through each of the jurors. >> then >> as i understand it the jurors will be allowed to the
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lawyers be allowed to follow up with some of the jurors outside the presence in hearing of the other jurors. there's another opportunity to get a juror offered cause. i'm telling you it's going to take a to pick this jury. i wouldn't be surprised if it's three or for weeks because there's a lot of work that has to be done and they need a bunch of jersey >> yeah. i'm not gonna go on wednesdays and i don't know exactly what's going to end up having with happening with passover. but all of a sudden when you talk about three to four weeks, you're not talking about 20 days. >> you're >> talking about a lot less than that. so maybe let me ask you about the people we do know. again, there's 32 that may be on this jury they're not all going to be with somebody might be, but the ones that i gave the description of a woman. these are these are manhattan nights. okay. a creative director married with a kid and unmarried woman in city government loves going to shows loves cooking. a woman in business development for a vc firm. venture capital firm married with no children, likes going to restaurants, all of them less new york times and cnn is new sources. yet none of them were struck basic, not
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just for that, right? i mean, so that gets into i guess the depth of the juror questionnaire >> yeah. i mean yes, there are many more questions on that questionnaire that will get to this bias that everybody's talking about. that would disqualify someone. again, it's not just anybody. it's a bias that renders you incapable of being fair and impartial, right? >> which is different than coming in with an opinion, right? >> but then. you. can set that opinion aside. yes. i mean, i've said this before, but i had an investigation of the trump organization in my office. we did not bring charges. i've said this publicly before. >> yeah, i have spoken very critically of former president trump on a personal level about him as a president and aza candidate today, i was able to put that aside when looking at evidence. right and that's what we ask jurors to do. and again, there's something about i think you used the phrase in your opening about how seriously this jury potential
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jury is. it's a big deal and when you take that oath and your in that setting, even even in a state court which isn't as regal is maybe federal court. i think people that doesn't mean we have hung juries and they happen a lot because people aren't completely honest, don't put it aside but i do have faith in the system >> could you read from anything about what the jury they were reacting? >> know it's really just impossible to tell this point is a little too early. i think we got to get them in the room to get a feel >> yeah. right? right. but i think that they'll definitely be able to find plenty who will be able to be non-biased as you point out they usually do in the room when when they ask the question about bias and impartiality, the hands shoot up they kinda look around to see who else is hand was up. i'm curious about this moment. >> they all went up at once. i think everyone already knew that they the answer to that plan, that it was coming. there were a lot of the questionnaire included a lot of questions about bias and whether or not you could be fair. so i think they saw it coming and i think
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that probably a lot of them know from tv or whatever that that's a way that you're immediately going to be let off of the jury and i think we'll probably see something similar tomorrow. >> right. as you get another hundred people. >> yeah, absolutely. and we'll see based upon the new pool, what they have to say, there'll be given the same opportunity to self-identify and say, hey, i can't be fair, i'm going to go and some will give the indication they can be they'll be questioned and just a really, really quick point. yes, we can talk about the individual jurors, et cetera. i'm very against stereotypes. i'm against any biases as it relates to restaurants. i like movies. you have to probe, you have to ask questions, although you probably could discern based upon new york times, cnn you can discern the leanings of some, right? but it needs fermat's >> as me saying, that's separate from how they may look at the case without because they may come in, they may not be a trump voter. who knows, i'm not saying but you know. okay. doesn't mean you can't be fair and unbiased. >> 1,000%. and the judge will
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say repeatedly in the instructions, it's not who you like, it it's not where you dislike. can you base it on the evidence in the court? >> all right. thanks very much to all as we continue to cover this, as we said, there's going to be a whole another group coming in tomorrow in addition to the 32 that they still need to go through leftover from today or next is district attorney alvin bragg ready? this is the biggest tests of his career. a longtime friend and colleague of braille i'm doing the next most breaking news in the middle east, israel preparing to strike back against neurons attack. ron warning tonight of red lines. and secrecy at the supreme court justice clarence thomas, this missing from the bench. the court refusing tonight to say why looking good hey, pick
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doctors, preferred, better science, better results. >> how it really happened sunday, april 28 did nine on cnn >> tonight, the face off for president donald trump in manhattan, district attorney alvin bragg, work together in the same room today. the courtroom, trump's disdain for the district attorney made clear as he left court tonight >> sitting here, okay. with that ten or 12 prosecutors over nothing over what people say
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what people say should be a trial bragg says it is not about politics, so he's doing his job. so what is the truth about the man at the center of this who is not named donald trump, alvin bragg, jason carroll is outfront alvin bragg could be described as a man with a few notable first behind his name, >> good afternoon. it's 50 years old and in >> 2022, she became the first black manhattan district attorney and now he's the first to prosecute a criminal case involving a former us president, donald hold trump. >> bragg had a prestigious early start. he attended trinity school and elite private school on manhattan's upper west side. but back in his neighborhood, he says he was often wrongly stopped by police as a teenager. >> he >> gave insight into his experiences during his campaign for office when i think about police accountability, i think about the nypd stopping me three times a gunpoint as a kid. when think about violent crime. i think about having a
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knife to my neck, a semi-automatic weapon to my head, and a homicide victim on my doorstep, bragg's interest in law started early. he graduated from harvard law 1995 article in the harvard crimson credited him for moderating a discussion between black and jewish students calling him the anointed one for his ability to reconcile diverse people and clashing views. bragg's resume lists a series of prestigious offices. he served as assistant attorney in the southern district of new york top lawyer in the new york attorney general's office, a professor of the new york law school racial justice project that's where he represented the family of eric garner. the family sued the city after a plain clothes officer put him in an unauthorized chokehold after he was caught selling loose cigarettes garner's death in 2014 sparks outrage and protests nationwide. brad credits his interest in police reform to his years growing up
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here in harlem, where he says once again, he was unfairly stopped by police as a child his mother was a teacher, his father, a social worker, according to the new york times and bragg now taking on his highest profile case to date, his case against the former president underway. >> these are felony crimes in new york state no matter who you are. >> we >> cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct. >> bragg who is a democrat making good on a campaign promise to make trump a priority. >> i'm ready to go wherever the facts take me. i believe we have to hold them accountable >> trump has called his trial political persecution and has repeatedly directed his anger at bragg, someone he's called an animal and a degenerate, the racist manhattan district attorney, alvin bragg who is presiding over one of the most dangerous and violent cities in the united straits should be
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noted that bragg's office has received racist threats. they've received threats of violence since taking on the case, but bragg has remain committed to the case. aaron saying the following, someone lied again and again to protect their interests and evade the laws to which we are all held accountable. >> aaron. all right. jason, thank you very much. and terry gerstein's out front now, she worked with alvin bragg as a prosecutor in the new york attorney general's office. and terry worked with them. use your direct supervisor for several years. i know you're also friends with him. you know him well. >> so what kind of a prosecutor? izzy so alvin or de a bragg he's very cautious. he's careful >> he's >> really, really a very smart lawyer, smart in a strategic, lawyerly way, smart about people but he's also just very, very committed to justice. i think one thing people don't know about him is
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the extent to which this trial in this case is just a small sliver of what his office is focusing on and what he's doing. he really is focused during the campaign, he talked about ending to system because of justice, where there were one system for people who were wealthy and connected and another for everyone else and really trying to bring about a different way of approaching the office. >> so in this particular case, he is obviously he's making history, raised. the first prosecutor to put a former american president on trial and yet, we've all heard from the very beginning, this is the least consequential the lease strong, most political case. i mean, this has been a talking point from the winning. it's not gonna be the only case. probably gonna get a verdict in in all of them though >> but one of the complaints >> specifically has been but these are misdemeanor charges, and he elevated these charges to felonies that is where this is going to fall apart with the jury, not whether he made a payment, not what it's the felony aspect of it. i know that you supervise cases like this, criminal cases like this
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for six years. so this is your bread and butter, you know, it. what do you think >> so we routinely i was the labor bureau chief and so we brought wage theft cases, cases involving those who were cheating on their unemployment taxes and other kinds of workplace laws and we routinely brought cases where there were charges of false business records as felonies. this is a very common charge, not just in the worker's rights space, but throughout new york state criminal practice. and so that aspect of it saying that these are this is something that's never prosecuted, that's just simply not true and true. all right. yeah. so now the other criticism and jason just references in his piece, but bragg's, some of the criticism is ben, well, how he got elected to begin with. he's a democrat and this is the way we do it in this. you run for so people or parties and what you get out of that is somebody who has a political party and in his case, he had talked specifically about how he was going to hold trump to account if you
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>> want, it was part of his platform and the most infamous soundbite is this one >> i'm the candy in the race who has the experience with donald trump i was the chief deputy and the attorney general's office. we sued the trump administration over 100 times so you know, you weren't you worked on his campaign, man. understand. you support him, but what do you say to people who say this is politics? he ran on saying, i'm gonna go get donald trump and then he went and did that. >> well, so i did volunteer on >> his campaign as did many dozens and dozens of us who worked in the office, even though he was no longer there because we all really believed in him having worked with him for years. and the truth is that on his campaign, looking at his campaign literature, going to the events he talked about so many different things. he talked about as i said, ending two systems of justice. he talked about public service. he talked about bringing workers rights cases and protecting tenants and taking a different approach that would be more strategic and preventive of crime. and so i
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think that yes, the issue of donald trump came up when he was questioned and he answered honestly that the attorney general's office and new york, where he was the number two first deputy, had brought cases as has many other a g case that aig offices in california and massachusetts and many other states. and so it certainly was something that came up, but it was by no means the highlight of his of his campaign. >> so you don't think the focus >> no, not at all. >> all right. well, thank you very much. i appreciate it and it's important for everyone to get a better sense of both people. and of course, there'll be all the jurors, but both people to center this right now. thank you. thank you. and outfront next, we do have breaking news, israel now vowing to respond and soon to iran's massive missile and drone attack tonight, we're hearing from people inside iran calling for the complete destruction of israel. >> plus >> truth, social's shares, tanking almost 20% just today, just today as some trump's supporters are actually now
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of all out war. the head of the idf telling troops iran's attack will be met with response meaning it's not a question of if israel retaliates. but when iran saying just moments ago, it will respond and quote seconds, if israel makes another mistake, those are their words. jeremy diamond is out front in tel tonight. jeremy, what more are you learning about? how israel plans to retaliate against iran since it now seems to be a matter of if i mean a matter of when and not if >> well, there are over the course of the last 48 hours, there have been heated debates within the israeli war cabinet about the scope and timing of an israeli response to those iranian attacks over the course of the weekend, the first iranian attacks on israeli soil. but there's no question that the israeli war cabinet is united in its determination to carry out some kind of response to iran's attack over the weekend today, the israeli military's chief of staff
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saying that iran will face consequences for its actions you in the face, the consequences for its actions. we will choose our response accordingly. >> the idf >> remains ready to counter any threat. for me run and it still proxies as we continue our mission to defend the state of israel and interestingly, erin, well, yesterday after hours of deliberations, israeli officials came out afterwards and >> told us that no decision had been made after nearly three hours of deliberations today in the war cabinet, israeli officials would not say whether or not a decision has been made. instead, one israeli official telling me that there was a sense after this meeting that action would be taken sooner rather than later. so while we don't know the exact timing of a potential israeli response, the sense is that this will happen sooner rather than later now, the question is
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exactly what type of responses israel going to go four and they reviewed multiple military options today. i'm told that one of those options was potentially hitting an iranian facility inside of iran that would not cause excuse me, civilian casualties. but of course, that is just one of several options. and of course what israel chooses to do here, will certainly have massive ramifications that will ripple throughout the region aaron. >> now let's certainly well, thank you very much, jeremy. and iran, of course, threatening as i said, that if israel does something they'll respond in quote, unquote seconds meanwhile, in iran, citizens are speaking out, calling for the destruction of israel and its chief ally, the united states our fred pleitgen covers around extensively. in fact, was just in tehran and is out front now with the iranian reaction >> iranian combat drones fired into the night sky. this new video shown on iran state media
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part of the country's massive aerial attack for the first time targeting israeli territory hundreds of drones cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles. and yet iran calls this measured action and vows things could get much worse for the israelis >> will tell you would that child should we have carried out this action in the framework of deterrence? another action is taken by israel are actions will be more serious. you're the boss >> so that's how had get >> if >> streets of tech ron, some hardliners celebrated with fireworks calling for >> even a harsher action and even the destruction of israel we hope this attack, continues to the point that israel is destroyed >> not a job >> with this attack, we can have some of that strong revenge the punishment is for
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the bombing of a building in their embassy compound in damascus, killing several top revolutionary guard commanders let's supreme leader, ayatollah ali khamenei are rifle by his side, calling for retribution during a speech one day before the strike and the commander of the revolutionary guards saying, from now on, they will hit israel every time it strikes their forces. a strategic shift as you must sorry, eunice d, from now on, if the zionist regime attacks our interests are properties, our personalities, and our citizens, we will retaliate against them from the >> territory of the islamic republic of iran with the help of a us and its allies the israelis were able to take out nearly all of the drones and missiles, the iranians fired at them but israeli strikes on targets inside iran, like the country's nuclear facilities as some us hardliners have called four, would be a major
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challenge and iran already warning the assets in the middle east would also become a target of america helps israel attack or wrong. >> paul hugo hava american bases, personnel and facilities will not have security in the region. and we see america as an aggressor. and we'll deal with them as well in that the laws claimed >> and aaron tonight, more tough talk coming from the iranians, a senior advisor to the commander of the revolutionary guard quds force that is of course, the foreign operations wing of the revolutionary guard saying that while iran does not seek war, they also say they will show no restraint if a ron's red lines are attacked, aaron fred. >> thank you very much. and i want to go straight now to the retired army lieutenant general mark hertling and kareem sagiv poor around policy expert at the carnegie endowment for international peace. thanks to both a general hurtling, israel's war cabinet meeting. the israeli officials. the reporting from jeremy diamond that they are going to respond
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sooner, rather other than later around in response is that they'll respond within seconds. what does this look like right now, general >> it looks like a mess. erin is what it looks like. >> what >> you what we have to consider is the culture of both of these nations israel has it been attacked multiple times, not just by iran? but by their proxies by terrorist groups. so the culture inside that war cabinet is looking for revenge many offers were probably made by different members of that cabinet about what should happen next. but the hardliners in the streets of israel, what something to happen. and his fred's what i'm showed the same thing has happened in iraq. so you not only had this strategic pressure of israel fighting multiple fronts and different kinds of wars. but you also have the potential for a being pushed by the hardliners. certainly not representative all of their people, but being pushed that
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way. so you're going to see some actions in the war cabinet today. i'm sure they discussed what was the spectrum of operations. could it be kinetic strikes by themselves? kinetic strikes mixed with cyber attacks? and special operations forces. and i'm sure even in some cases the not do nothing. we had a good night the other night. let's continue with the piece and focused on posix. all those things are playing a part and it is just a mess. >> i mean, it cream when you talk about israel responding sooner rather than later in a rotted said, look this was their response to the attack on their general and team at the embassy annex in damascus, and that they would call it a de, its over but then they say they'll respond within seconds if israel responds now, is that serious? >> i'm reminded of ghandi's quote that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. i think that the challenge iran has is like any dictatorship. it wants to be feared by its
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population. and so i think among the reasons that they felt the need to retaliate to against israel. obviously, they want to send a signal that they're general's can't be assassinated cost-free they wanted to win plot its and admiration from the arab and muslim street but this is a country, iran in which last year, if you remember, our underwear mass protests against the government. and the government doesn't want to look weak in the eyes of its people. so i actually, despite what we saw earlier of people taking to the streets and i'm calling for vengeance against israel. i suspect that most iranians are really praying that they can avoid conflict >> general hurtling to that effect some who are advocating for israel to strike directly back on iranian soil, which jeremy said is one of the options being considered clearly, are calling for this to be an incredibly aggressive john bolton around hockey is calling specifically for israel to respond by hitting some of
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the iranian nuclear facilities, targeting the nuclear weapons program. obviously, a targeting of a nuclear weapons facility, whether it be a power driven like bush, or hear, or some of those other locations in the map that are clearly part of the nuclear weapons program as well, truly could escalate this situation two mean, some sort of a horrific world war. what do you think? >> i agree with you completely, and i'm thinking the good lord every night that john bolton is in no way influencing any of the decision-makers, right now. because if israel were to strike any nuclear facilities inside of iran, that would light the fuse and it doesn't matter which side would win or which died would be on top. it would be a horrific war situation and by the way, israel has other methods of affecting around nuclear facilities. they've shown that in the past. so it doesn't take a kinetic stretch. it takes the kinds of strikes
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where you can be colbert and claim plausible deniability clearly on what exactly happened. although most people will understand what happens. yeah, i agree that this is not something that both nations should go to war about because if that happens the entire middle east will go up in flames iran is not looking good right now, based on the attack the other night, both from their capability, but also the very fact that they did it and most of the region is running contrary to ran right now and it's changed from most of the region being against israel just a week ago so we're seeing some dynamics play out that will certainly affect the context and certainly affect future actions. just hope both sides are careful about what their next actions are. >> cream, can i just ask you today, john kirby said something at the white house. it was basically sort of narrative that's taken. control, seems to be along the lines of look iran knew what they were gonna do. they
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telegraphed it, they told everybody basically, all sort of putting marks of tape on the ground of where they were going to aim of what they were gonna do and the whole point was show of force. and they knew israel and the us and jordan would take it out of the sky and then they can move on. but that's the whole point of it. and john kirby at the white house says that that's absolutely not true. here's what he said >> i've seen reporting that the iranians meant to fail >> at this >> spectacular and embarrassing failure was all by design i've also seen ram say that they provided early warning to help his rule prepare its defenses and limit any potential damage all of this is categorically false to coin for his from the presenter is still phrased in the president. it's malarkey >> is it malarkey create a kareem. did did did iran actually think any of those things we're going to go through with the way they telegraphed it or not you know, aaron, i spoke to a senior white house official yesterday who echoed kirby's words. he
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said, listen when you launch 100 ballistic missiles, that serious that was intended in his words to cause serious, serious destruction and in the past iran hasn't restrained itself against israel. they praised october 7, hamas attack on israel what's different this time is that they have an operator to via proxy. and i think iran hope, frankly, it's an irony given that they're ideology is premised on hostility towards the united states. but i think now iran is hoping that the biden administration will exercise restraint over israel. >> and we'll see if they'll succeed. premise or netanyahu was not listened much to the us president in recent months. thank you both very much appreciate it and coming up out front this week, i will be speaking to the foreign minister of ron and you won't want to miss our face-to-face conversation friday night, you will see it we will air it here. at seven. and meantime, next here tonight, trump's
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don't flooding the market with new shares. what is the bottom line for small investors who bought into trump's company because they believe in him well the bottom line is that they are going to get diluted. >> and >> this makes it more likely that they are going to lose money. >> the >> problem here is this back was set up in the deal was set up in a way that allowed a lot of wall street insiders and trump and the other people involved with his company to get in at very, very discounted rates. meanwhile, retail shareholders were putting up huge sums to buy in an ultimate effect is that they put in the cache and the other people walk away with the shares >> me, it wasn't believable as you point out, right. trump and the insiders, i got the shares for rock bottom, right. then it goes public and the people who buy at those prices get hurt the most anyone who bought trump media shares when it peaked and i guess dan, that was what, $66 per share. so they've now lost half their money. and just to be clear, people who got in and bought at that price, we're not inside
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sophisticated wall street insiders, right? these were small time investors who support donald trump wanted to support his company there was a person who put a large chunk of his life savings in this company. he told the washington post dan, i know good and well, it's in trump's hands and he's got plans. i have no doubt. it's going to explode some time i mean, that's actually makes me really sad i mean, how do you even react to that? >> yeah. >> it is a six-storey and the trouble here is that if you look at the fundamentals of the company it's poised to go down a lot more if you look at the number of users at this company has amount of revenue that generates its evaluation should be measured in the hundreds of millions of dollars at the most right now, the public markets are evaluating at three-and-a-half billion. so that means that this stock should fall by at least another 90% before the metric starts. make any amount of sense. >> then for people who >> are just blindly putting their faith in trump and the
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company, that means that they can stand to lose a lot of money. and if somebody is just throwing a couple of thousand bucks that they have extra. >> okay. fine. now, people donate to political campaigns two but if somebody is putting a significant chunk of their life savings into it, they could really get wiped out by the very person who they're trusting their money to. saying this guy is going to make this company and amazing venture >> i mean, it's incredible what you're saying there. thanks. so we've already look at something that's lost half its value since march 26, half its value. but you're saying it could go down another 90% >> yeah, there's no question. i mean, if you look at the company zone filings, they're saying that it's accountants have questions about whether could continue as a going concern. they're saying that bankruptcy is not out of the question. eventually blue, so this thing could go to zero eventually, but just if you look at the actual business fundamentals right now and you stack that up against, for example the valuation of twitter or facebook or some other social media companies.
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