to zip recruiter, the average federal employee makes around $113,000 a year cuban could pay the annual salary for nearly 2,442 employees he's cuban saying in his post about paying taxes, quote tag, a former president that you know, doesn't. >> well the >> bidens also posting their tax returns today, pen nearly $146,629 and federal income tax i wonder who cuban could be talking about then happy to act, say, thank you for watching our coverage continues >> good evening from tel aviv, which is now bracing for what comes next. if israel's armed forces already at war on a number of fronts launch this countries answer to saturday's large-scale, but mostly thwarted drone and missile attack by iran. the first time iran has directly struck israel

from its own soil. one of two highly significant and potentially history changing stories that we are following in the hour ahead. israel's war cabinet seen here yesterday, met again today, reviewing plans for a potential counter-strike the leadership here, vowing to quote exact a price for what iran did, which in turn was iran response for what's believed to be though israeli strike that. killed to iranian generals syria. what shape the israeli response takes the timing of it and neurons reaction to it. it could transform an already dangerous confrontation to something even harder to contain. just a short time ago, ron's deputy foreign minister warned that his country will respond in just seconds if israel in his words makes it another mistake also tied in new york, american history being made, jury selection begins for the first criminal trial ever of a former president. the first of four criminal trials, as you know, for this former president, perhaps the only ones happened before election day so as you might have imagined, our focus over the hour ahead is divided for two good reasons. we

closely monitor any moves from israel. we begin right now with a momentous day in the case it's against the former president and cnn's kara scannell >> assault or nothing like this has ever happened before, is never been anything like it. >> donald trump speaking out on a day that saw 96 potential jurors passed through magnetometers to enter the courtroom with trump they were sworn in and questioning began a few minutes later, at least 50 perspective jurors were excused because they told the judge they could not be fair and impartial of those who remained. he questioned by the judge, listed the new york times and cnn as their sources of news none said they had read any books by michael cohen or trump and none of them said they worked or volunteered for any pro trump or anti-trump groups. just nine members of today's jury pool questioned and not dismissed by the time court adjourned. trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. the manhattan

district attorney alvin bragg says the former president attempted to cover up payments made to adult film actress stormy daniels just before the 2016 election, trying to stop her from speaking out about the alleged affair with trump judge juan merchan started the day by denying a motion from trump's lawyers to recuse himself as attorneys debated, judge juan merchan said he would not allow the infamous access hollywood tape to be shown or video of trump's deposition in the e jean carroll lawsuit that found him liable for defamation karen mcdougal, a model who says she had an affair with trump in 2006 and was paid $150,000 to keep quiet about it. will be allowed to testify. attorneys also argued about how much the jury can be told about michael cohen's crimes i did it at the direction of in concert with and for the benefit of donald j. trump the credibility of trump's former fixer who admitted he orchestrated the hush money payment to stormy daniels will be one of the most bad over elements of the case

trump for his part, entered very few words into the court record. he could sometimes be seen leaning back in his chair with his arms folded and his eyes appear to be closed for several minutes. when he was introduced as the defendant, trump turned around and gave the potential jurors a tight lips smirk once jury selection began, trump was active at times conferring with his lawyer and holding the questionnaire up to read as a judge question in jurors, prosecutors also ask the judge to fine trump for social media posts attacking witnesses involved in the case, saying he violated a gag order. the judge scheduled a hearing for next week to settle that matter. the trial is expected to last six to eight weeks. it may be the only case against trump to face a jury before the 2024 flexion, the presumptive republican nominee complaining about the judge as he walked out of the courtroom, joe do of course, is not favorable. allow us is a great conflicted james and his doctor to allow us to to that he won't allow me to leave here for half a day, go to dc

and go before and the united states supreme court because he takes you superior what's expected tomorrow in court >> so today they question those nine jurors, including an oncology nurse and a bookseller tomorrow the judge will continue this question and going through it was 42 questions on the questionnaire until they have a large and urge enough mass that he'd beat the attorneys, then begin to ask these jurors questions. all ultimately with the goal of getting 12 jurors and six alternatives. anderson kara scannell, thanks so much. one thing was kaitlan collins host the source coming up at 9:00 at the top of the hour. also a bestselling author and former federal prosecutor, jeffrey toobin and richard gabriel, jury consultant and author of acquittal and insider, reveals the stories and strategies bind today's most ms vertex. so jeff, as karatay was just reporting out of 96 potential jurors say more than half were dismissed because they said they couldn't be impartial. only nine got through the questionnaire. i mean, is this

how you expected things to go? >> it's actually good progress. journalists, we have, we tend to think that everyone out there in the real-world potential jurors are following these stories closely the way we are in they're not, we are certainly going to get a jury here this process is underway. i've covered all these high-profile trials. we always think, oh, everybody is made up their mind. they haven't made up their mind. people are living their lives. they are going to they're going to be questioned by the lawyers, questioned by the judge a group of 12 jurors and six alternates will say they can be pair, fair. >> and >> this trial will proceed. this trial is now underway. >> caitlin, what are you hearing from trump world tonight about how they think the first de when i mean, they're seizing on a few things, anderson that happened at the end of the trial, two things in particular, one that needs a fact check, which is that the question of what the schedule of this trial is going

to look like. one thing that the trump team had raised was his son suns upcoming graduation. the judge was essentially saying, i can't make a decision on that right now, something that's happening in may, that's a decision will have to make going forward. that is one thing that you've seen the trump team really seize on saying that repeatedly as they've been going after this, judge and criticizing him, given he started today's hearing by saying, i'm not going to recuse myself that's second request that he had gotten from the trump legal team to do so. and the really the one thing that they are focused on is what's going to happen once the questioning of these jurors gets underway beyond what we saw today, we're just a few of them actually had the questionnaire read. most of them were left the room. over half of that initial pool of 96 people because they said they could not be fair or impartial. and that is when the argument that you've been hearing from the trump team complaining that they don't believe they can get a fair jury here. but of course they are going to be ultimately trying to whittle this down to 12 people in a few alternatives that they believe will be helpful to them because all i need is one anderson here to essentially not agree with

the prosecution richard, what we heard from geoff who said that there will be a jury and that this is the process i'm wondering what you make of >> progress that was made today the volume of potential jurors have already been dismissed well, it's actually a good thing. i mean, the truth is that you're looking for candid responses from jars and oftentimes when i'm doing jury selections in court. so it's really like pulling teeth, really pull stuff out of jurors to get them to tell you how you really feel. so obviously, don't trump is one of the most probably the most high-profile defendant ever to go go to trial. people are going to have some pretty strong opinions about them. so half the people saying, i've got strong opinions about this is a good thing because those people have self identified as not being impartial and that's what you need in a trial like this. so i think as jeff said, this is actually progress being made. it might be slow but it is progress. >> and what what judge merchan did was interesting and

somewhat different from the way other judges operate. other judges sometimes ask don't let people excuse themselves by saying they have strong feelings. he can, he's just letting everyone go. he he has enough of a pool. he has hundreds as of people waiting. he is not going to quarrel with people who say they can't be fair. that's good. that means this process will move along 40 people, making it through essentially half a day because the the morning was mostly taken up with legal arguments. this is good progress. i mean, they are going to ha a j in a week goodo he >> jeff. >> i'm wondering what you make it. the different evidence that the judge has ruled in miscible. karen mcdougal, the former playboy play man, foreign president, allegedly had an affair with, will be allowed to testify and other hand, the access hollywood tape, which everybody knows about can't be played for the jury. >> i thought those were very reasonable. we'll conclusions by the judge. the karen mcdougal story is very similar

to the stormy daniels story. it is money paid for silence for women who were allegedly involved with trump at trump's behalf, the idea that trump was trying to keep information from the voters on the eve of, on the eve of the election by, by paying this money or having his allies at the national enquirer pay pay karen mcdougal. i also thought it was appropriate to keep the access hollywood tape out that is the case. that is a tape about non-consensual sexual contact the donald trump saying what everyone knows he said about what he could do with women. >> that's not what >> this case is about. no one stormy daniels and karen mcdougal both claim that this was consensual sex, and i thought keeping that away from the jury, even though they probably know about it, wasn't appropriate division for trump's benefit

>> kaitlan, also the trump's. he made a request of the judge regarding another hearing in washington, dc next week. >> yeah. it just shows you how all of trump's legal issues are kind of colliding here. i mean, next week is when the supreme court is going to hear the immunity arguments for donald trump, which is really the ball game for prefer all of these major cases that he's also facing with when it comes to this special counsel, that is going to be next thursday and trump's team right at the end after they were done with trying to get jury-selection, working on that today, they made a request for donald trump to be able to attend that next thursday in washington. todd blanche has lead attorney said that he very much wants to attend that, and the judge was saying, i understand why that's of grave importance. it's obviously an argument that you're making before the supreme court, but he noted correctly that trump is required to be here in new york. that is part of the agreement. he didn't ask for a waiver for his presence. he certainly could but the judge said that next thursday he will see him here in new york because they are trying to keep this on schedule and i think that speaks to really what

today underscores and what it means for how it's changing donald trump's day-to-day reality and are said, i mean, he is someone who is, in charge of his schedule. he was the president of the united states. it kinda does whatever he wants. but with this, he is confined to being in the manhattan courthouse several days a week and will will be for the foreseeable future. now jeff tube and richard gabriel, thanks so much kaitlan, we're going to see you at the top of the hour and nine on the source, you have a conversation with a member of the trump defense team joining sandwich, new york. new yorker contributing writer ronan farrow is written the definitive book on the practice at the center of this trial. the title catch and kill lies, spies in a conspiracy to protect predators, running. >> we >> learned today that several stories that you helped him cover will be allowed to be taken into evidence in this trial, including allowing karen mcdougal to testify how important do you think her story is two, this trial to the larger picture? >> it's pivotal and it's a pivotal moment in this case that judge merchan is saying, look, this is essential

material to establishing the narrative. the narrative being that there was indeed a scheme between donald trump and the national enquirer and that these payments had an electoral intent. and the evidence of a seal theories of payments, not just to stormy daniel, which is the central transaction at issue, but also to karen mcdougal, who you mentioned potentially to the doorman at trump tower, who has paid off for exclusive rights to a rumor he'd heard about that trump had an affair and fathered a child with an employee. we don't know whether that rumors but we do know that there was a payment from the national enquirer in order to lock up that doorman in silence all of that has figured in legal documents around this case and the fact that it's now going to figure in front of jurors is significant. it's the crux of it i spoke to mcdougal in 2018. i just want to play some board. she had to say once don't trump won the republican nomination you're saying ami suddenly

came back to you with interests to keith? yes. to us for the story. yeah. >> what do you think it was that it would after donald trump was the republican nominee that they came back they wanted some squash story you're saying they wanted to protect donald trump >> i'm assuming so, yeah. >> if donald trump hadn't been running for president, do you believe this deal would have been made with ami knowing what you know now, probably not happen for not you're pretty you're convinced now this was an effort to do a favor for donald trump in the last few months of the presidential race unfortunately, yes >> i'll pivot or do >> you think her actual testimony would be well, we don't yet know whether that testimony will be a part of this trial. it was lead in theoretically, but the judge also made a hedging comment saying, we don't know whether

the probative value of that would out hey, the pudendal potential prejudicial effect of it so we'll see what we do know from both of our interactions with karen mcdougal and the way she's behave with other journalists is she's been willing to turn whistleblower on this matter. she expressed to me multiple times in our interviews that she felt a sense of guilt without having been dragged into a scheme with 11 implications, which it wasn't her intention in the first place. so we have a sense that she's going to be willing to help the prosecution in this case. we also have a strong sense that figure is at ami v. then parent company of the national enquirer are going to be willing to help david for instance, has gone in and met with prosecutors around the inquiries into trump in the hush payments from basically square one. so there's a roster of individuals who can speak to the fact that this was a scheme to influence the election, something that the trump folks denied to me from the beginning of this recording. and then gradually have had to admit to we last time you when i spoke,

you said that you weren't sure whether there's a strong case yet given where things stand out after >> today, what do you think the given that, you know, you had said that given the unique nature of these charges trump is obviously facing a variety of criminal proceedings around the country. there's these four ongoing cases. it is true that most legal experts regard this as one of the thinner ones. if theoretically each of these charges, in this case could carry them, harry and multiyear sentence, but more likely any sentence would be served concurrently with any other sentence in this case and it's very possible that trump won't get any jail time for something of this severity. there are other cases ongoing that could be more severe. however, this case is consequential in part because it's the one that we may see resolution on first before the election. so this is something that is going to have a big effect on the media cycle. a big effect on the election. and i will say that from what we've seen in the early proceedings,

this judge pushing back very hard against efforts by trump's defense to delay things efforts to force the judge to recuse himself. all of that done a suggest that you have someone in that position who is not a pushover and who is going to go hard on this. he did grant at least one motion that the defense brought forward today. he's clearly making a great show of being evenhanded in the face of a lot of broadsides from trump who has been attacking the stretch on social media potentially in violation of the gag order. there'll be hearing about that several weeks. but he's also making it clear that he's not going to fold >> ronan farrow. thanks so much. good to talk to you. coming up next. all we are learning here about what could come next in israel's confrontation with iran also late reporting for the white house on efforts there to contain a crisis which may be about to grow. again, we'll be right back anderson cooper 360. he's brought to you by teba visit. sounds like ted.com dan

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>> the response to some of. the more than 300 drones and missiles launched by iran and israel over the weekend, israel now weighing what more it will do about it. and as we mentioned at the top, runs governmentally tonight, warning that any israeli counter-strike would be answered not in days, but in seconds. they claim cnn chief international correspondent first award is here with me. what do we know about the decision-making process going on in israel right now? >> so there was yet another war cabinet session today. the fourth since saturday, it lasted a few flowers. we also heard from the idf chief saying that really is not a question of if rather with, but when. so the question then becomes, what does that response look like? there are numerous options on the table. could be a direct for tat going for an iranian military facility could be an asymmetric trick attack focusing on one of iran's proxies could be a cyber attack, but against the backdrop, you have these kind

of competing political calculations, anderson, you have allies of israel who are really urging caution, who are really urging restraint >> and then you have >> political allies primarily in the form of benjamin netanyahu's right-wing coalition, who are urging a tougher stance, a more robust response to re-establish a detergent, a deterrent and then across the region, of course, just this broader sense of high alert and tension and anticipation. >> there's also the question of timing is it? better to wait and sort of serve revenge cold at a time and place of choosing? or is it imperative that it'd be quick while there is international support for israel, sympathy for the consensus right now seems to be that there's an impetus for movement sun, and that may be because israel feels that its engine going are moment of goodwill that people are less focused on what's been happening in gaza and the atrocities and failures there, and more focused on this broader issue of iran. they've talked about wanting to form a

regional coalition. we saw benjamin netanyahu taking too twitter again today saying we've got to stand united against iran. but i think there's a sense that there's a limited window that they will be able to do. that. in particularly as the world will turn its attention back to gaza, back to the stall talks with hamas about a ceasefire and hostage release. >> there had been thought this week there would be an operation in rafah unclear at this point where the status of that is unclear what the status is. there are still so many moving parts. you still have 1 million gazans who are hunkered down displaced in rafah. and israel has faced a lot of criticism for its actions in gaza. they know that the world is watching that they will be expected to launch this operation in some way where we do not see the level of civilian casualties that we have seen before. we heard the us being overtly critical and sort of laying down a warning. again, you come back to these competing political

considerations though, because here in israel, there was also a lot of pressure on its leaves leadership to deliver some kind of a military victory against hamas in gaza, though no one has really articulated exactly at this stage what that would look like anderson toward thanks very much. >> let's go to next to the idf chief >> spokesperson, rear admiral daniel hagari and gary. appreciate your time tonight. the idf chief of staff said today that iran's attack, quote, will be met with a response and that it will, we will do that at the time we choose >> what would >> you hope to achieve from a military perspective in any, in any response? >> hi understand. >> good to see you again on saturday night we faced a launch is large-scale launch attack of iran that launched over 350 ballistic missiles cruise missiles, rockets, drones towards israel this was

the largest scale of attack that we saw and using over 100 ballistic missiles it's one attention to harm israel. this unprecedented attack met with an unprecedented response heck capability of defense response of israel that foot in the air in the sea, in the land. but we did not fight alone. >> it >> also met a coalition the coalition that was formed against iran, led by the united states and also united kingdom, france and other partners. >> this coalition >> has intercepted 99% of the threat and it's sorted. the attack by iran but he didn't just wrote it. the attack by iran. >> it also conveyed >> a strong message to iran we

will not stand this iranian aggression how concerned are you that any response you talk about the >> coalition partners, >> there was also jordan, there was also saudi arabia involved. are you concerned that a a military response now against iran might jeopardize future cooperation from those countries and others >> many countries in the region shared the same straight. it israel from iran the old share this threat. this is why on saturday night wasn't just a significant moment of this attack that was stopped iran failed but it also revealed the opportunity in the middle east for coalition for countries that share the same straight from this iranian aggression. and we will not stand from this iranian aggression. it will be

stopped i want to ask you about some reporting a senior biden administration official confirmed to cnn that hamas >> is now telling israeli mediate or mediators that they only have around 20 remaining hostages who are in the groups that they are willing to release. women are sick or wounded and elderly man this is down from the number 40, which we understand has been part of negotiations over the last several weeks. do you believe that hamas is negotiating with the intent to reach a ceasefire deal what do you make of they're saying now, only 20 last time we met anderson was five days after 7 october. i met you at the nova festival allocation site, where hundreds of young children that came to hear music festival was slaughtered by hamas. we stood together seeing the burned cause there was days before the

party of freedom a party for young people that were looking for music and freedom and those young women that were slaughtered over the and those young women that were kidnapped to gaza now being held hostages. and those are young women that phase sexual violence hamas is the ruthless enemy. hamas is still holding 133 hostages women, children, the elderly we must do everything to bring them back home as fast as we can. >> it's true >> hamas >> once is, it's still in its own condition, but we have to do everything we can to rescue our hostages. there's no time. we're losing time with our hostages. we have to do everything we can to bring them home

>> do you believe that the pressure israel has been under from, from allies, from the us, from others in international community has weakened the ability of israel two on the negotiating table. i mean, if hamas is now backing off from saying 40 and now down to 20, and we want more prisoners and more of those who had been held for life sentences. we want more of them released does that indicate to you that the leadership of hamas in gaza views israel as weekend at the negotiating table i think israel knows hamas for many years he didn't change when we talked about gilad shalit in gaza, it was the same when we talked about the later one show and an adult golden, it was the same this is hamas. we know them so well this is hamas. you only wants to survive. the only

wants his own survival. this is hamas >> he takes use >> the hostages for its own survival. he uses the gazan population for its own survival. >> and >> we must do everything we can with the mediators, with the idf forces to pressure hamas to bring them back home >> you mentioned the young women who had been taken from the nova music festival day. i met you should also point out hirsch goldberg-polin, and others who had been wounded. hirsch had his left hand and an arm blown off or shut off in a shelter there. he believe is still being held. so there are, as you say many from that nova music festival still being held. daniel admiral, gary, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you >> thank you so much. anderson. these days, we are waiting to see what will happen in the region. but on saturday night

although the war is very, very tough we saw the friendship, the iron clad friendship a true strategic friendship of united states sent standing beside israel, but it wasn't just the united states. united kingdom, france, and other countries in the region. and it showed the opportunity to the list for the future that this war will end with different middle east. a more stable middle east, more safe for middle east thank you >> in regard thank you. with me now, is michael oren former israeli ambassador to the united states. i want to ask you about what the outcome will just said, which is just hasn't gotten as much attention. i keep coming back to it as jordan, saudi arabia some involvement in the coalition that helped stop this attack and israel, how significant is that? is that a sign of what could be a

changing dynamic >> welcome back. anderson. it's hugely significant. i mean, think about this. i mean, who would have thought about this? >> 2030, >> 40 years ago, that israel would be joining with jordan, with saudi arabia, perhaps with the uae as well, and fighting a common enemy. i mean, it would have been unthinkable and it is what admiral gary just said that it's a historic opportunity, isn't a soccer opportunity. yeah. there's lots of dangerous here >> so if there is, i mean, that's got to weigh into the work councils decision-making process of what does that does a direct attack on iran. does that does that hurt that historic opportunity? >> war cabinet has to thread a very, very narrow needle, okay, you have to create deterrence on iran without triggering perhaps a regional conflagration and not breaking up this new alliance that came into being, income to being on saturday night, but certainly showed its its effect. it's robust impact on the region saturday, >> israel was on the verge of a deal with saudi arabia for recognition prior to october 7,

there's many who believed that's one of the main reasons hamas would have launched when they did one of them, yes, stop that day? yeah, i did. i did. >> and as true and these states are looking to us to stand up. these states faced twin challenges. that's its sunni extremism, the form of hamas, the muslim brotherhood. and she had extremism in the form of iran and hizballah, if the united states gets behind this effort to stop both of these extreme msms together with israel, there are tremendous opportunities here. what's being the chance here is to show that the war going on in gaza south of here, and what happened in the iranian attack on israel on saturday night is really the same war and it's for this been going on for decades here. >> so you're not the investor in any longer, so you can say your opinion. i can. >> if >> if us is saying take this as a when israel don't don't militarily retaliate right now, what would you say? >> i'd say it was a great achievement for israel. it's a great achievement for the us israel alliance. a great chavan for the region but a defense is not deterrence.

>> and >> football, basketball, you don't win a game just on defense. you have to win on offense as well but you want to be offense in a smart way. and in a controlled way that it gets i said earlier, that will not lead to a wider conflagration in the region at will enable us to retain these alliances, not just with united states, with european and of course with our were >> response by israel, you're saying it is. i mean, are you saying whether it's most important that it send a message to iran, that it's kind of loss of face. if you don't respond, it's not just loss of face is getting a message to the entire middle east. you can shoot 350 projectiles at us. and if one of them had gotten through could've killed of people, those cruise missiles can take down an entire neighborhood, not just the building >> we can't do >> that, can't live in this neighborhood, would that message getting out so a military responsible years or wouldn't necessarily have have to actually have much of a military effect on the ground. but you're saying that the value of what would be more psychological or just in terms of sending a message.

>> but since i'm not ambassador, i'll say the following. iran has a target rich environment various crypto possibilities and iran is very, very vulnerable to them >> there are fuel facilities along the persian gulf, there are many areas where israel could send that message, would, wouldn't involve attacking iranians the way they way >> the iranians attacked our people by the way, we don't have we don't have a conflict with the people of iran before 1979, we had a very close relationship with those people want to have that relationship again we don't want those people to rally around the regime, want those people to conclude moved the desk regime is really, really bad for them because i think they're already there ready. and we want to encourage that that process so again, it's a target rich environment is what has to choose the target that's going to get the message across shooting 350 project those adduce is a really bad idea. it's >> going to cost you. it's actually going to cost a secular create the region to galvanize around you against you together with the united states, britain, france, other international actors who knows,

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carefully and strategically here and said that the us will not be involved in a counter-strike against iran. of course, the focus for the white house is to contain the risk of this becoming a broader regional conflict that has been a top concern for months since the october 7 terrorist attacks. it is especially one now and in a phone call that the president held yesterday, with g7 liters, the focus of that was the diplomatic way forward. the null on actions they can take, for example, arranging new multilateral sanctions against iran's missile and other nefarious programs. now of course the question is whether the israeli prime minister is going to take president's and the president's advice. and whether israel gives any notice to the us before its response. those are two opening and ended questions here at the white house tonight. now, the national security council spokesperson was asked today whether the president is going to get on the phone. again with the ime minier he didn't did say that there would be call at the appropriate time. anderson priscilla alvarez.

thanks very much. i'm joined now by norman rule. here's the former national intelligence manager for iran at the offices of the director of national intelligence norman, when you hear running officials talk, has one did today about retaliating to an israeli strike within seconds is that you think bluster or do you take them at their word >> good evening. >> know they'd probably have a capability and the intelligence packages set aside to launch a number of missiles and drones it's likely, are they made launch a smaller package than they did on april 13 hoping that the world will say, because it's a smaller package they are accommodating the new environment or not attempting to escalate the new environment. but some launch capacity as possible >> what do you mean when you look at what is happening here now, what stands out to you? what should our viewers know >> what stands out in my mind is we've watched the collapse of of deterrence against iran

be at hostages, piracy against ships expanding its nuclear program, attack backing israel terrorist operations in the united states and the united kingdom, it's really difficult to identify what an international red line for collective action against iran besides symbolic sanctions, happens to be there >> we had been talking about increased sanctions. there already a number of sanctions against iran is, are there any levers to pull other than an. attack >> certainly. and i think we need to comment on number of sanctions. it's very easy to say hundreds of sanctions are in place, but sanctions on individuals with no assets abroad who don't use international financial systems, who don't travel abroad. and indeed the regime doesn't want them to travel abroad sound good, but they don't change leadership we

believe it will change your ron's behavior. so if we just see from the g7 sanctions against iran, missile or other related programs, we shouldn't affect expected this will change their decision-making on future attacks >> what do you think of the participation of jordan, of saudi arabia in the defense against this iranian attack over, over the weekend, does it i mean, as some israelis here? like to say that this points to a future of a potential change in the dynamic >> well, there are several elements to this student. first jordan, saudi arabia, and all of the regional arab states have a great concerns over iran. iran is a common threat. second, we've watched the united states, particularly central command, develop extraordinary relationships with saudi arabia and jordan. this is paying off. next, these

countries have an obligation to defend their own airspace from iraq, from the transitive iranian missiles and drones. and last, these countries would fill the impact if this, if this conflict grew into a regional conflict. so it's certainly in their interests to prevent damaged by a ron's missiles and drones >> norman rule. thank you for your time. coming up next, we're going to return to the first ever trial the former president and examined this unprecedented event with presidential story and doris kearns goodwin if you're living with hiv imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills good to go off the grid good to go nonstop with kevin uva. there's no pausing for daily hiv pills for adults were undetectable cabinet. the only complete long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. it's two

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first former president stands trial in a criminal court? >> we know obviously everybody's saying it's in a store day, but what really goes through my mind is a sadness as an historian that this is what an historic de is i mean, if i could time travel, i'd much rather go back to january 1, 18, 63 be there when the emancipation proclamation was an historic day i'd rather be there at d-day on in june 6, 1944. the idea that what makes this an historic de, is that it's the first president who is going to be an a criminal trial just makes me sad in many ways. i think that's what's going rough my mind. in addition, what will really make this historic de, is it depends on what happens, whether or not the verdict come down one way or another. there, whether the american people accept that verdict, whether or not it affects thelection that's en we're really going to know it. that's what we never knowhen certain things happ. a whe train of events will be set in motion today, and it's rarely where it comes t in the election, i think in november thawill really tell us how historic is day is

it's also when you think about through different lenses. those who believerhing the former presint says or even if they don't believe it, they n't really ce whether it's true or not. and those who have other onions >> c you >> talk out i an, are there other times that really stand out where the population has sort of seen thingthrough such different eyes. i mean, obviously this is a untry that's been divided many times roughout our htory. >> i think the only other time thateally comes close to this are the 1850s beuse what happened during that decade was the understandg what s happening in the country was complely different in the south and the north you look at what happened when charles sumner was attacked by a southern congressmen and it right in the capital, and it was so mobilizing to the north that they were on street corners. they formed themselves into the republican party in the soh the person who did

the attack, preston brooks became a hero and everybody was giving him golden keynes to replicate the cane that head used to bludge some and you realize that the same t was being considered in an entirely different way in terms of facts, truth, and emotions about how they felt it. and then people knew. historians have said that once that happened, it was really hard for anything to bring those two sides together. and that's what we're seeing today. different truths, different facts a different emotional set about even this trial itself and what's being said. so that's what's that's what's makes me nervous as an historian, we certainly don't want the 1850s to be our our echo of what's going to happen to us today. >> your new book, an unfinished love story. it is truly remarkable. it is a memoir of your life with your late husband, richard goodwin, who was a brilliant speech writer and adviser, john f. kennedy, and lyndon johnson to robert kennedy. and he remained in demand his whole life. you write about how in the aftermath of the 2000 election, al gore reached out to ask for help with both a victory speech

and a concession speech. your husband chose to focus on the concession, knowing how important it would be if needed. you and he came upon that speech while you were researching this book and you write quote he asked me to read it, closed his eyes and listen to the description of the peaceful transition of power, the hallmark of our democratic system dating back to george washington. this is what he wrote. let there be no doubt, while i strongly disagree with the court's decision, i accept it. and tonight for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy i offer my concession and quote, liz cheney wrote in her recent book that was one of the most patriotic speeches she had ever heard. do you think that the general public better understands and the wake of january 6, how much of a duty that the losing candidate has to help defend democracy? >> i certainly thought so right after january 6. i mean, that was such an important thing in 2000 because what gore did was to say that i offer my support because of the strength of democracy. i disagree with this

decision. but nonetheless, for democracy, i will accept it and i know in my husband was working on it, he understood the power that was important at that moment for a president to speak a presidential hopeful to speak, because the election had already been so we forget about there were many, many days when all that was going on in florida. nobody knew what the decisions we're going to be like and the most important thing in this country is a peaceful transition of power. it's what a democracy depends upon democracy is so simple who wins the >> people can decide who when they can decide who lose and throw them out. and if you don't accept that, and the great thing about that speech was that it went back to stephen douglas, who lost the election to lincoln and he said patriotism has to trump. and his certain sense, he didn't say that word, but but patriotism is more important than party right now >> doris kearns goodwin, just scan the book remarkable, an unfinished love story, a personal history of the 1960s. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. i'm so glad to be with you from far away coming up next a live

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