>> implemented successfully by donald trump. we might not see a january 6 case trump's trying to use this case to knock out the classified documents case and delay that. what do you think about all that? >> yeah. look, i mean, in orders of relative culpability or magnitude, i think that jan. sixth case that the federal case that jack smith has brought in washington is arguably the one most serious, the one that corresponds most closely to the work that i did, the work that the committee did and investigating the riot in the attack on the capitol, arguably, the most serious case should go first, but look, these are different judges in different different jurisdictions with different laws that apply. this was the first case that was brought, and it is relatively straightforward in terms of the simplicity of the issues and it's not i wouldn't write off the chance of a trial in the gen six case in the fall if the supreme court quickly disposes of the immunity argument as i in a lot of experts think that

they should this case could get scheduled before the election all right. >> tim havi great to talk to. i hope we can do it again soon. thank you very much and thanks to our panel and everybody else for joining us this morning. i'm jim acosta, cnn news central starts right now >> tag president biden making clear the us will not join any retaliatory strikes and a historic de, in america today, donald trump will become the first former president to be tried on felony charges this morning. he will head to a manhattan court this jury selection begins in his criminal trial. we're live outside the courthouse for you. >> o. simpson's estate now vowing to fight the families of nicole brown simpson ron goldman, why he says he hopes they get nothing from the civil

judgment they were awarded decades ago. i'm kate baldwin was sara sidner and john berman this is cnn news central >> and the breaking news you're just getting ward that israel's war cabinet is meeting right now to discuss its response to the massive iranian missile strike iran launched more than 300 drones ballistic missiles, cruise missiles targeting israel with minimal effects still, it was a huge attack and while the us was among the allies, heavily involved in defending israel, president biden has made clear the us will not help in any retaliatory strike against iran. let's get right to cnn's jeremy diamond in tel aviv. jeremy, what are you hearing from inside this meeting? >> well, john, i'm told that this war cabinet meeting has now begun and there has been heated debate among the war cabinet members over the course

of the last couple of days since iran launched this unprecedented strike on israeli soil about the scope of an israeli response and the timing. one one thing is clear is that israel's war cabinet is united in the fact that a military response is required to respond to iran's attack over the weekends. but now it's a question of how soon, how quickly they will respond and how big that response will actually be. there's no question that israel's war cabinet members are awaiting sure that israel is enjoying considerable international goodwill at this moment considerable support from some of its key allies, including, of course, the united states and so they don't want to squander that goodwill with an over-the-top response. and there's also, of course, concern about sparking a bigger conflict between the two countries. but at the same time, the israeli prime minister sar is coming under considerable pressure from his right flank to go with an over-the-top response to change the paradigm, to break all the dishes as one israeli official told me. so this is really

going to be a question of which direction they decided to go in. and ultimately, if they go in, the more measured direction, how do they thread the needle? how do they say? and the message to iran that takes into account that this was the first iranian attack on israeli soil while also avoiding further escalation. that is the topic of this war cabinet meeting that is ongoing right now. and it's unclear how quickly they will actually reach a decision. i'm told that the war cabinet member benny gantz it has been pushing for a quicker response than what we've seen so far up until now, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu pumping the brakes on an immediate decision. john, as you said, the meeting going on right now, jeremy diamond and tel aviv, let us know what you here. thank you very much. >> all right. from an unprecedented attack to an unprecedented trial, we are standing by for something. this nation has never seen before for the first time in us history, a former us president has going on trial, cused of felonyrimes this morning, donald trump's hush money trial begins here in new york,

and he will have to be in court daily, setting the stage each for a highly unusual presidtial campaign platform when the presumptiveop nominee departs trump tower, soon, he will ma his way to a lower manhattan courthouse where he will now orced to sit inside four days a week in this case, trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 criminal charges. this is for allegedly falsifying business business records to cover up hush money payments made to adult film star stormy daniels, just over an hour ago, donald trump slamming the judge in a new post, has a trial kicks off with a critical question. who will sit on this historic jury? cnn's beringia and grass is live outside the court for us brynn, despite several attempts to drop or delay this trial, were here the day has started walk us through what happens when donald trump arrives the courthouse just behind you yes. era >> first, i just wanted toell you we already are seeing suorters and protesters here

at the courthouse and coordinatein an expected to start foanother 2.5 hours or so. and that's what we'll be spec the former president to arrive, as you saiit yourself, he has to be here for court every single day that this trial is in session. so when it picks up today, jury selection obviously basically a key part of this trial before it actually can get started. what we understand is that 500 durer's will be called in today. now, not all of them are for the trump trial. there's of course, other trials happening inside this courthouse today, but 100 at a time will enter judge one, we're sean's court room and they if have any issues with staying this tire trial, which is expected to la six teight weeks, they for childcare or they ha it's something ngduringhat time. were told the judgwill immediately dismiss them, but those that are left in tha group will have to answer 42 questions. and there's a lot of different questions there that have to pertain, of course, to whether they attended a trump rally. do they have any certain affiliations with the trump with trump

board? where do they get their news? had they listened to me? michael cohen's podcast as he will be a key witness in this trial. so a number of questions that they have to answer out and that they will be weeded out for based on those answers. we also understand that both the prosecution sayyed and trump's defense have ten strikes against these jurors. they can raise their hand and dismiss them ten times is the total. so 12 jurors six alternates. that's the focus of getting that starts today. we expect that could happen or i'm sorry, that can last for about a week, maybe even two weeks. so there we. go. to start as you just said, it, a historic trial >> you have been reporting on the unprecedented amount of policing that is happening around their law enforcement preparing for this, what does it look? like out there? and what's been happening with trying to make sure that everything goes off safely >> yeah. listen, we are in a pen that situation, so i wish i could turn this camera around, but opposite of me is going to

be is there a giant park outside this courthouse and that's where protesters are pushed to actually right behind me. there was a protest pastor who just came by and police immediately move them into that pens area. we are pending as well. and you can see probably behind me there are barricades around this courthouse. we see number of police officers. of course, there have been bombed, sniffing dogs. there are a number of cameras in this guy. there are monitoring this area, intense security, of course, as this is unprecedented for an ex-president to be on criminal trial, sarah brynn and grass. thank you so much for bringing all of that to us as court will begin very shortly here. cake. absolutely. coming up still for us. the israeli war cabinet is meeting the biden white house is watching closely what president biden is saying now abourael's promise exact a price from iran. biden spokesman is o guest. 's j. simpson's attorney hey vowi to fight ow to block e family of ron ldman from getting even a pen of e multi-million-dollar cil th two decades ago i'm, the

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millions to the families of his ex-wife, nicole brown and ron goldman. now the executor of simpson state says he will do everything he can to make sure the goldman family gets nothing. cnn's camila bernal is joining us now camila, this has got to be so painful for the family going through this again i'm sure it is, sarah. good morning. and look, oj simpson appears to have put its final wishes in the hands of his longtime las vegas attorney, malcolm lavergne. and as part of that, the attorney told the las vegas review-journal that he would fight any payout from the estate to the goldman family thing that his hope was that the goldmans get zero, nothing nothing. and then pointed them out specifically now, simpson's property was put into a trust and the court records do show that the attorney was named as his personal representative and executor of both his will and his testament and the attorney also speaking to our affiliate, ktnv and addressing that 33.5

million civil judgment that was awarded to the families of simpson's ex-wife, nicole brown simpson. and her friend, ron goldman by a california jury in 1997. and although simpson was acquitted in the criminal trial of killing the two of them, he was sued by their families for wrongful death, and he was found liable by a civil jury. now the attorney characterized that judgment as just creditors claims, and then he characterized the families as publicity creditors who would be placed in what he called a pecking order. take a listen to what he said. >> as far as a real creditor that would be of some importance. >> it's >> not those publicity creditors and i'll characterize them as publicity characters. mr. simpson has irs debt. there's irs debt that's gonna be out there. don't wanna go into any more about it, but it's substantial. and then a host of other creditors, anyone there's gonna be a notice to creditors so that's a part of the process >> of course, he went even further in that newspaper interview saying that he would do everything in his capacity

to try and ensure that the goldmans do not get anything in the tv interview. he also said he's spoken to simpson a number of times in the days before his death and he explains that he was in hospice care for two weeks before his death. and while he wouldn't comment on the condition, he did say that at some point they no longer had these functional back-and-forth conversation. sara well, camila bernal. thank you so much for that reporting john >> all right. we're standing by to see donald trump leave trump tower. will he speak on his way to becoming the first former president? than ever to face criminal trial. jury selection begins this morning. >> and then idiots >> and aco, >> those are some >> of the names the armor from the film film rust allegedly called jurors who found her guilty of manslaughter. today, she will find out her sentence every weekday >> morning, cnn's five things has what you need to get going with your day. it's the five

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in car business, blue carbon. we just need to protect nature will do the rest >> corbin plus cnn filled sunday at night right now we're waiting to hear what israel's war cabinet decides to do after iran's unprecedented missile and drone attack. this weekend, israel says 99% of the ballistic missiles and drones for ron were intercepted. handout video. we're showing you from israel. israel defense forces shows israeli fighter jets interest precepting some of them and in israeli government spokesperson tells cnn this morning that iran aimed more than 300 missiles and drones at israel saturday night, quickly after all of this, us officials made clear to their israeli counterparts, the united states will not help in any offensive retaliatory strikes against iran. now, joining us right now is a spokesman for the white house national security council. john kirby. john, thank you very much for coming on. israel's war cabinet meeting again right now, they have said that they

will exact a price from iran does president biden's support israel retaliating now, after the iran attack >> well, we respect that. that's a decision the war cabinet, the prime minister, have to make. we know that they live in a very tough neighborhood. the president believes that what happened saturday night was an extraordinary military success and that it proved israel is not alone and it proved that israel has a military superiority can be proud of, and that they ought to think about what that success to the message that, that sends to iran into the region itself. he's also been very clear, kate, that we don't want a war with iran. we don't seek to why? biden and broaden this conflict. we don't want to see things escalate as a matter of fact, what we wanna do is see things de-escalate and defending israel the way we help due on saturday should have that effect. >> we talk about de-escalating. so is it the position of the biden administration that israel should not retaliate on iran or iranian territory. now

again, that's a decision that only prime minister netanyahu and the war cabinet can make. i mean, again, we respect their sovereign decision-making process. what we want to see is de-escalation of the tensions. we don't want to see a wider war and everything the president has been doing, including putting us forces in the fight saturday they night to defend israel, which i think is the first time it's ever been done, is been to de-escalate, to take the tensions down, to put resources in the region, to send a strong signal to anybody who might act inimical to our interest or the interest of our allies and partners, that it's unacceptable so cnn reporting is the following. john president joe biden, and senior members of his national security team have told their counterparts, the united states will not participate in any offensive action against iran. that's according to us officials, familiar with the matter i've seen similar reporting in reuters axes, cbs news, the washington imposed, and many more. i list that out to ask you, is that reporting accurate? is that the position

of the biden administration >> i really can't go any further than what i've gone to hear this morning. kate, i'm not going to get into the diplomatic conversations that the president and the prime minister had on saturday night or have had in any other time, we want to make sure that as can defend itself. we actively participated in that self-defense on saturday night, we will stay committed to israel defense at the same time, we want to see tensions d escalated. we don't want to see a war with iran and we certainly aren't looking for a wider conflict. in the region. >> do you dispute that reporting >> again, i think i'm just going to leave it right at that. >> you have made clear that the position of the biden ministration ithat he doesn't want this turn into a wider regional conflict of her say that a. few times now, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike turner, he reacted to you yesterday talking about this, and he said that you're wrong to say if you don't want an escalation, his point is that it's alreadescalated this

unprecedented ta directly from iran is the escation. your response? >> there's no question that what or-awn tried to do and i emphasize the word tried to do was an escalatory step. no question. i mean, it was an unprecedented aerial attack from iranian soil, two israeli soil. we haven't seen that. i mean, that's, that's a huge step in the wrong direction. but let's talk about what didn't happen and what didn't happen was any major damage or or casualties caused in israel because the united states stands goodbye, our commitment to help israel defend itself and just because iran conducted this unprecedented attack, which we in our israeli partners and other partners thwarted, doesn't mean that we should just accept a constant rising escalation in the region. the president is not going to accept that he wants to see things de-escalate and everything we're going to do from this point forward is going to be designed to

continue to try to reach that outcome. real quick if congress moves to approve aid to israel now with or without funding for you crane included. >> is this >> vote more about signaling the united states is ironclad support of israel in its defense? or does israel need the help right now? >> they absolutely deed continued support from the united states. and what needs to happen on the floor of the house is the bipartisan bill that was passed by the senate, which includes ukraine, which includes the indo-pacific, which includes border security, as well as israel needs to to be voted on because we know kate that if it got to the floor today, it would have the votes to move forward. and if if what happened saturday night doesn't teach us anything at all to teachers, the sense of urgency. so, yes, israel will continue to have american support, but yes, they need additional american support going forward. and again, what happens saturday night, i think it's proven in the pudding. >> john kirby, spokesman for the national security council, the white house. john, thank you so much for your time >> sara all right ahead this morning. how oklahoma 40 solve

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>> officials in oklahoma are about to give an update on the case of two missing women. officials are working to determine whether two bodies found yet for are those of veronica butler and jilian kelley, the women. they were on their way to pick up their children when they disappeared late last month. now, for people were arrested saturday and charged with murder. the relationship between the suspects and the victims is currently unknown the hollywood armor or victory after the deadly shooting on the rust movie set will face sentencing today, prosecutors are asking for hannah gutierrez reed to get the maximum penalty of 18 months behind bars far as they say she has shown no sign of remorse after the death of the film's summit cinematographer, halyna hutchins and gutierrez reed's lawyers say she should be released on probation. they're also new court documents, so revealing guttierez reed complained about the jurors who found her guilty of involuntary manslaughter in recorded phone calls from jail to call those jurors, quote, idiots, and a holes american

golfer, scottie scheffler is a masters champion. again, playing an amazing using back-nine to win his second green jacket. and it wasn't the only thing on his mind though. his wife is super pregnant. that's a technical term coming from someone who has been super pregnant with their first child he said he would have left the tournament at a moment's notice had she gone into labor >> labor? >> she didn't. and he clearly capitalize on the extra innings to mix sports metaphors this makes scheffler the 18th player to win the masters more than once. >> and the >> first since bubba watson in 2014, tiger woods finished in last place. john. >> congratulations to scottie scheffler four. >> so this morning the first criminal trial of a former president begins. donald trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to a hush money scheme with us. now cnn legal analysts, former federal prosecutor, jennifer rodgers counselor, you say there are three major things we need to watch over the course. because of this trial. the first one starts in hours and that's jury

selection. >> yeah, it's always important. it's super important here where you have a defendant that everyone in that jury room knows and likely has strong opinions about. so both sides are going to be really focused on this, but it's particularly fraught for profit let's curators piece because of course prosecutors need unanimity, right? they need all 12 jurors to find him guilty in order to convict and so they have to be able to exclude every single person who is unfairly pro-trump, right? whereas the trump folks only path to exclude some people. so it's really, really important in the case may be won or lost it's right here in jury selection. >> and you think the trump team will be looking at the jury, not just beginning today, but all through the trial. >> i do because they're going to be looking for problems with jurors, things that maybe they didn't disclose during voir dire, they might try to get rid of a juror, even in the middle hello, of trials, certainly after trial, if it doesn't go their way, there'll be looking for jurors who maybe weren't honest during voir dire, there'll be scrubbing social media and all those things to try to make motions to overturn the verdict if it doesn't pay very close attention today. and the next several days as this

goes on for the types of questions whereas the types of answers these jurors give will of course, be all over that. in the meantime, after the jury is seated, we hear from witnesses the most important witness in this case is probably michael cohen. i say most important, but also probably most fraud yeah. >> he's central to this as he's the one of course who reimbursed storming to who paid stormy daniels and then got reimbursed by the former president. he gives central testimony about what trump actually knew was happening so he is the central figure now, he is corroborated. prosecutors say by document menn and other witnesses. so he's not the whole ballgame, but he's really the most important piece. he's also famously at odds with trump, right? they despise each other. you could say michael cohen makes no secret of that, so he's got an obvious bias and he's lied, he's admitted to lying under oath, so there's all these issues at play and my real question from michael cohen is, can he keep his cool under what will be really, really aggressive? talk about that. how does the prosecution tried to keep him

disciplined in how will the defense tried to throw him? >> well, you prep them, right. you meet with him over and over. you tell them what to expect. you go through mock cross examinations where you really, really proud at him and hope that after all of that prep and going through all that, many times, he can accomplish that on the stand and the defense. >> well, >> they're gonna go after him with everything they have. they'll call him a liar. they'll go through his testimony and why he was lying. he even recently said that when he pleaded guilty in front of a judge, which of course is under oath, that he he really didn't think he was guilty of those offenses, so he's been giving them more and more fodder and they're going to use all, of course, the prosecution will try to get out in front of every one of those specific allegations. donald trump himself. he has want to get every time there's a case involving trump, he muses, i may testify. i want to testify. he's saying it again now. how high would the stakes before him what goes into that decision? >> well, as soon as a defendant testifies everything else kind of fades away. it right? that becomes the key thing. and that's what they have to think about here. it would be really risky for him to testify and there's no way he's going to do it if they don't get a

really good ruling from the judge so what prosecutors can and can't go into on cross-examination. of course, they can ask about the incident in hand. of course, they can go into anything that was the subject of direct examination. but normally normally you're also able to prosecute using r2 cross-examine using impeachment evidence >> and that includes >> questions about reputation for dishonesty no one has a strong her reputation for dishonesty than the former president. i mean 30,000 false statements during his presidency, according to the media, all sorts of court cases is in which he's been found liable for lying and fraud. so there's so much ammunition there that if they don't get the judge to say that some of that is off the table. i don't think he'll tests to fight at all. >> all right. it all begins very shortly. jury selection today, we'll donald trump's speak on the way to the courthouse. could we learn more? >> we're going to watch it all. thanks so much for being with us. thanks sarah. >> all right. and cnn special live >> coverage of the trial starts by the way on am right here on cnn streaming on max all right,

today, more than 40 million people in the central and eastern parts of the united states are facing severe storm threats that could have damaging winds, hail, flooding, and the possibility once again of tornadoes. cnn meteorologist derek van dam has been tracking all of these storms for us this has been a pretty rough start of the week when you look at the radar >> a very interesting setup because we've been watching the dynamics here at play. it's the majority of your monday is not going to be under the threat of severe weather. it's really this afternoon and evening once we start to take advantage of all the dynamics, the heating from the sun, you can see the timeframe here right at the top portion of your screen. probably after the sun sets this evening, roughly seven 30, 8:00 across portions of kansas and nebraska, south dakota. and even as far south as the oklahoma texas border, this is the area that we've highlighted for the chance of severe weather. very large hail, a few tornadoes and strong gusty winds. and the storm prediction center is highlighted this area, in particular as the greatest

threat that is a level three of five, that is an enhanced risk. and you see that hash that we've put over top of that, we've overlaid these two locations, including southern oklahoma and into central texas. this is the area where we have the greatest probability of law large hail, two inches or greater, that's baseball-sized hail falling from the sky. that's a real threat. and again, it's the hail that is the larger threat today, even though there is still a tornado threat possible across it's the planes. you can see that here are about a 5% probability, not as great as what we anticipated over the weekend. so some good news with this, but the severe weather threat will advance eastward for tomorrow. and then we've got to keep a close eye. into the >> sky across central iowa. this is an area that has an enhanced risk already set up for tomorrow afternoon and make matters worse behind all of this activity is very windy weather that will take advantage of dry conditions on the ground and that is why we have a critical fire threat across the texas panhandle portions of eastern texas and into new mexico. remember, the

state's largest wildfire ever? occurring just within the past couple of months across this area. so we do not like to see this type of setup for critical fire weather. but there it is for the day today as it taps into dry conditions and windy windy weather sir, i'm gonna send it back to eunice. do you have just >> about all of that you've got potential of major fires, hail, flooding, and a potential tornadoes. people will be having to pay attention to what's happening in there, whether in their area. thank you so much. derek van dam, appreciate a cake. >> so right now, israel's war cabinet is meeting and promising to exact a price from iran after this weekend's attack, have an update on that park rangers are now asking for the public's help to identify these men. they're wanting for destroying ancient rock formations at lake mead

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>> i'm just lucky >> the lead with jake tapper today it for a cnn we're standing by right now to see donald trump had out of trump tower on his way to becoming the first former president >> ever on criminal trial, jury selection begins this very morning. he issued a rambling social media post overnight. in summary, he is clearly very unhappy with these facing charges of falsifying documents humans to cover up a relationship with an adult film actress. this trial could last somewhere around six weeks and this morning we're getting new reporting on how donald trump attends to campaign. during that time. joining me now sarah matthews, former white house deputy press secretary for donald trump and cnn senior political commentator, van jones. thank you both. for coming in on this historic morning van first, can you just speak to the nature of what we

are about to witness in this country of former president heading to a felony trial i mean, use the term unprecedented over and over and over again with this president. but this is truly an present. this is not like a bizarre tweet or some weird thing he said are dead are some lie this is a criminal proceeding against a former president united states. i don't think he had a foreign president traffic ticket. i can remember a lifetime. so this is a big deal. this is not the case that is about the the attack on the capitol. it's not about the stolen documents. it is about his pattern and practice of lying and stealing and trying to bend the rules to his benefit, paying off somebody to make sure that he didn't have to pay to be held accountable. well, seven years ago is gonna be held accountable now >> sir, i'm curious about because they and just bringing this up, this is the first criminal trial that is coming forward. this this hush-money case about falsifying documents. what do you make of

this being the first one and does it in any way play in trump's favor? >> i do think it does play in trump's favor. look, this was also the first indictment to be handed down to him, and i think that that kind of set the tone then for further indictments, this one, while i believe that there is evidence to justify it, it did seem like the prosecutor in this case is maybe stretching the charges a bit these are misdemeanors that he's elevating to be felonies and the legal theory, there's a little shaky for it. and i think that that serves to help trump and i think the other cases that he's facing and the charges are much more serious. and so i would have liked to see those come first who knows if we'll even get trials for those ones before election day. and so this being the first case to go to court i think does make it helps trump to his advantage because i think it furthers his narrative of this being politically motivated. and i'm not saying that justice shouldn't be served here. obviously, if the fact

sworn it and they make a strong case, then he should be convicted. but i just do think that out of all of the cases, he's facing, this seems to be the weakest one >> there is a gag order in place. i just want to give you a sense of what trump told the crowd of his supporters in pennsylvania this week? you can about the trial, listening >> on monday in new york city. i will be forced to sit fully gags. i'm not allowed to talk if you believe it. >> they >> want to take away my constitutional right to so he's not fully god. he can talk. obviously he's talking there, but he just can't talk about the family members of those who are in the courts and/or the witnesses as well. sarah, to you, do you expect donald trump to simply use this as a campaign stop every single day since there are cameras there everyday, and he has to be in court every single day of this trial >> yeah. obviously, this isn't an ideal situation for someone

running for president. he's going to be off the trail for about two months. i believe it's wednesday's in the weekends are the only days he won't be required to appear in court. so team trump is definitely going to use this tool there are advantage as much as they can, and try to use the media coverage to get as much exposure. while this trial is not going to be televised, he'll obviously be holding press conferences before and after. but then you do run into the issue of is he going to be heated after court proceedings and maybe violate his gag order? so if i'm his lawyers, i probably don't want him to be holding press conferences as much, but if i'm his political team, i would. and so that's the issue that he's going to run into with trying to campaign from a courtroom fan. >> how do you see this playing out? because so many polls show people as they're watching this, some of them say, some trump supporters might fall off if he's convicted but how do you see this playing out politically? >> well his game is the system is trying to put me on trial.

i'm going to put the system on trial. i'm going to tack everything and everybody and i'm going to try to make myself be a victim. he is weird man. he's playing this this pity party game and try to get pity on the way to the back of the presidency and it depending on how you see this, this is either some attempt to your point, maybe too late, maybe not the right one, but just some attempt to have some accountability if anybody watching this show had done 0.1% is other donald trump is being charged with 90 plus 80 plus felony counts, eb and the bad crying. you wouldn't be trying to get the top job in the world, did me just trying to hold onto your house and your family. and so the idea that this guy has done so much stuff, it gets no accountability at all for a lot of people doesn't sit well, so they're glad to see some accountability other people see it differently. they see it as he's being picked up by the system. and so you'll see trump make the case for himself. i think the rest of the rest of the judicial system and the rest of normal america needs to just keep this in the four

corners of did he commit this crime? did he lie about it? did he pay hush money? did he do it? wasn't lawful if it's lawful, he should be held accountable, just like anybody else. >> then i'm going to stick with you here and talk to you about what's happening with the biden administration and president biden and israel, americans feel very strongly about how biden his handling the israel hamas war. and if you take a look at some of the polling says, look, they, they basically disapprove of how he has been handling this war at the same time, you have had this unprecedented retaliatory attack from iran directly on to israeli soil. >> how does >> he thread the needle here with his with. his voting base many of whom are very upset with what's happening in gaza, what's happening with the people there, the catastrophe that's unfolding there humanitarian. and then you have this other side of things where you see iran actually attacking israel for the first time like

this look somethings are above politics. when you have a look, there are 1 billion chinese people, 1 billion africans. there's 1 billion indians, there's only 15 million jewish people left on planet earth. half of them live in israel. and when they are under existential threat, you you have to protect and you're supposed to protect that tiny precious minority and he has done that. he's going to continue to do that. now what he should do is come before the american people and explain the threat of iran. i remember after nine 11, you had a george w bush come out and just explain to people what does the tried too? i 't ke hathey ople? to people this is a major er th glal threat. i don't think we struck em so much time talking as we should about what's hainin gaza, wh'happeng in israe the stageset cetera? i don't think people understand that iran is a much gger threat than just to israel. havproxs all proximates, approximates all

throughout asindhey are de-stabilizing the world with their jihadist agenda. he has to explain that this is now a much bigger fight. it's not just about gaza it's about jihadist chair against western civilization. he's got to explain that. and when he does it, i think he's gonna be able to get more support, but regardless, what's popular or unpopular, you cannot allow half of their main jewish people in the world to be bombarded by military from a jihadist regime like iran and not respond cheryl matthews and van jones. thank you so much. appreciate it. john >> on that front, israel's war cabinet is meeting right now to discuss its response to the iranian strike. let's get an update on what's coming from that meeting cnn's jeremy diamond is in tel aviv. jeremy, what are you hearing now? >> well, john, this meeting began nearly an hour and a half ago. i'm told and it is the heated debate between the war cabinet members is certainly continuing their reviewing

various military options that could be executed to respond to iran's attack on israel over the weekend but certainly there are differing views on the war cabinet in terms of how quickly and how big israel's response to this attack from iran should be. i'm told that benny gantz, a key member of the war cabinet, who also happens to be prime minister netanyahu's chief political rival has been pushing for a much swifter response than what we have seen so far. whereas the israeli prime minister has actually pumped the brakes so far on making a decision about exactly what type of response and when to give the order to carry out that response to israel's military. there for our both domestic political calculations at play, as well as those on the international stage. we know that multiple countries, including israel's allies, have been urging israel to move and to proceed with restraint, taking into account the fact that only a few of those ballistic missiles that were fired at israel, actually a hit their target it's causing what

the israeli military has described as light damage to an airbase in southern israel. and then there are the domestic political calculations and for the israeli prime minister who relies on a government that has significance, elements of the far right here in israel, he is being pressured by his right flank to go big to carry out a significant military response to iran. that sends a message and that makes clear that this first attack, first iranian attack on israeli soil, can not go unpunished. there's certainly consensus that some kind of response is going to need to happen. but the question now is when and exactly how significant that response will be. john all right. jeremy diamond for us watching this meeting, keep us posted. jeremy, in the meantime with the scene and military analysts, retired general mark hertling general, just so people know, this was and i don't use the word massive very often. this was an enormous strike and attempted strike by iran more than 300 projectiles projectile shot at israel, 170 drones, 120

ballistic missiles, 30 cruise missiles. this is a huge attack, largely unsuccessful, right? almost no success at all for iran. but as you look at the situation now and as the israeli war cabinet meeting what do you think the possible responses could be >> the reinforced john, your comments about this being huge let me give a comparison real quickly. >> the first >> day of the so-called shock and awe campaign in the first day of operation iraqi freedom by the united states it's 500 precision weapons were used in this case, you've got over 300 in a five-hour period. >> so this >> was a significant attack. to answer your question of what's going to happen next that debate going on. i think we should mention that benny gantz is a former chief of the iraqi defense forces. so he has a significant amount of intelligence and information about how to strike. but i think israel realizes they have

improved their strategic messaging position by defending so well against this massive attack that could have been catastrophic. i'm going to throw that in there too. it could have killed a lot of civilians and damaged a lot of infrastructure within that small area that is israel. >> but you're going to >> see the potential for, for kinetic strikes in return. >> but i >> also think you're going to see more covert measures. israel has just a brilliant capability in cyber offensive operations dan defense of operations they are going to be able to say to iran and we stopped your strike. we're going to do things to you. you won't know when those things are going to occur. and it's going to affect your country significantly. and by doing that, they're still going to stay in the catbird seat in terms of their messaging and their strategic position so while it's possible that israel does respond directly and maybe soon you see it less a strike inside iran, for

instance, than >> maybe some kind of covert activity striking against them. either inside iran or somewhere else. >> i do i see a combination of both small overt actions that prove that they are ready to respond. but also probably massive covert actions, both special operators and cyber attacks potentially against the iranian regime so general, this was, this attack was largely thwarted, but it included assistance from the united states, from >> france, from britain, from jordan, including having these missiles being shot down by those aircrafts outside of israel real how much could israel do if it did not have help >> certainly not as much, john. and you're right, this was a significant multinational operations, not just i mean, we see the shooting down piece of it, the trigger pullers. what we don't see is the refuels

the intelligence gathered the planes that direct aircraft to different locations. the integrated air defense all of that is a part of it. and when you have as many countries involved with highly technical capabilities in this area on a defensive positioning that's why you saw the success that we saw the other night. so yes. could israel do something? certainly they have a very capable and modern, technologically advanced force, but they couldn't do something on the scale that we saw on saturday night. it's just impossible for them to do it. >> we get about 30 seconds left. general, you surprised that iran was not able to get more success here. does this give you a different perspective of their capabilities >> well, not so much of their capabilities, johns, but there are methods and it's the same thing we saw in the rush with the russians in ukraine. >> they >> weren't very good at what they did. and the reason i say that is because they couldn't have mapped asked the drone's the ballistic missiles the

cruise missiles in one large strike. but instead of massing them and doing them in a synchronized way, what they did is used them sequentially. so we were the multinational force was able to pick off different ways of weapons as they came in to the area of operations and they certainly telegraph what they were going to do. but there was a great deal of intelligence. it was prepared for this. it was the techniques that iran used as well as just their capabilities. they certainly have some capabilities and they have a lot of them just like russia does. so the countering this kind of action unlike what russia does, they, they synchronize their operations with a lot of things going in at one time around was very bad in terms of sequencing. there are different weapon system. got it. >> general mark hertling, always great to see you. thank you so much. we are standing by to see donald trump leave trump tower on his way to his criminal trial. in new york and new our oci and a new central starts now