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>> unprecedented attack iran fires hundreds of missiles and drones at israel, risking or regional war. >> israel's enemies right now want to destroy israel with israel already fighting on to how will it respond? florida senator marco rubio joins be lie plus urgent push in the wake of iran attack congress moves on aid to israel after republicans blocked okay, the foreign aid package over ukraine, israel as being held hostage for ukraine, will iran's attack sway their votes ohio senator jd vance is here exclusively and fine line. president biden condemns iran's assault, but as walking a fine line of helping an ally, we're going to do all we can to protect israel's security without getting cold in deep for can the us help stave off further conflict? pennsylvania senator john fetterman, his next cnn breaking news hello i'm jake tapper in washington with a special live expanded edition of state of the union, where the state of our union is on edge. president biden has
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been meeting today with leaders of fellow g7 nations who quote unanimously condemned iran's unprecedented attack against israel and called for de-escalation. that's according to the european commission president two posted the photo would just showed you a short time ago, the united nations security council is holding an emergency session this afternoon in an israel, the war cabinet meeting for hours mats to decide how to respond to iran. one hardline israeli ministered, not in the wartime cabinet, but in the cabinet. bezalel smotrich called this a quote, moment of truth that requires a firm response over the course of five hours last night, iran launched about 170 attack drones, more than 30 cruise missiles, more than 120 he ballistic missiles according to israel, which said that more than 99% of the more intercepted israel says a seven-year-old girl and arab-israeli girl was injured by shrapnel in the back. president biden told israeli prime minister netanyahu that israel should consider the overall results a win, and that
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the us would not participate in any offensive operations against iran. that's according to a senior biden administration official. let's bring in seen in correspondent jeremy diamond and israel right now in jerusalem to be precise, jeremy, the israeli war cabinet still meeting tell us more >> yeah, that's right, jake, the israeli war cabinet is currently meeting has been meeting over the course of the last several hours to discuss what kind of response israel will have to this large-scale, unprecedented attack that iran carried out on israel last night, as you mentioned more than 300 drones and missiles. the first time that iran has ever carried out a direct attack on israeli soil. the fact that very few of those missiles actually made it through israel's defense system. certainly one of the components that this war happen, it is going to be talking about as they work to decide exactly how israel will respond on one israeli official. but it to me, this way will they go with a response that will quote unquote, break all of the dishes, or will they instead go
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for something more measured, something that will not further escalate this situation. we are already starting to hear from some of the members of this war cabinet, including benny gantz, who is prime minister netanyahu's top political rival, but he is a member of this war cabinet that is making these decisions. and he said that israel will quote exact a price from iran in a way and time that suits us. we have seen in these videos from this war cabinet meeting that you have netanyahu, their guns defense minister yoav gallant, as well as the israeli military's top general, top intelligence official. so all hands on deck certainly for this moment, jake, that could certainly be a major inflection point for the region. >> all right. jeremy diamond in jerusalem, israel. thank you so much. joining us now to discuss republican senator from florida marco rubio, he's the vice chair of the senate select committee on intelligence. senator rubio, thanks so much for joining us. you are the vice chair of senate intelligence. what are you hearing about this attack and what is your assessment? of iran's goal here
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>> well, arounds goal it has always been the same and that is to make israel and unlivable place iran does not believe that it can hit. iran knows it cannot beat israel militarily. but what it does aspire to do is make israel and impossible place to live in a place don't want to wants to visit i hear a lot of talk right now about how this was a performative attack and how that none of them got through. and this is all great. it's good that those strikes to not get through and harm anybody. but what do you think the tourism numbers are today in israel and in the next couple of weeks, what do we think the business numbers are going to look like this? >> all >> of this is harmful to the jewish state because that is the goal of a ultimately, and that's why they want us out of iraq. that's why they want us out a syria that's why they want to overthrow the qing and jordan. and that's why they want to continue to surround israel from from, from gaza from lebanon, they aspire one day from jordan, from syria, from iraq, have all these proxies that are able. and then from iran now able to attack israel and make it an unlivable place so that the jewish state will collapse from within
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economically and socially. that is their goal. that is their aspiration. that is why many of those drones had lights on. so you could see them coming in and the terror aspect of that. and that's what we need to understand here, is that as at the core of all of this is not simply to respond to the death of an irgc see killer, but it is also to continue to move forward on this plan to make israel and a livable place. >> but we're waiting to see how israel response to this attack, iran is already warning any israeli retaliation will be met with a more severe response from iran. you called this the most dangerous moment for the middle east since 1973 what do you think israel should do? >> well, i'm not going to tell you what to do because i'm not the one that was attacked by 300 rockets and missiles and drones. i do know that israel has very clear military doctrine and that is that they respond to attacks by responding to those with something much more severe. it is how we have survived. this is a country, a jewish state that on its very first hour of
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existence was attacked and mlf from multiple directions by multiple countries. and it has not stopped since then. they have faced constant existential threats to their existence on a repeated basis throughout their history. in fact, their history is defined by that. and so they have made the decision on their military doctrine that they respond to attacks on israel, disproportionately and it is the reason why we have not had another 1973 or 1967 situation. now look, this is i imagine that israel does not want a full-scale war either. and one of the ways they have it in the past is through the kind of deterrence that comes from firm attack. so i expect that they will respond. i don't think they're going to ask us nor do they need us to help them in that regard. ours has been largely a defensive posture. what i don't understand is why joe biden and the administration would leak to the media. the contents of a conversation in which he tells netanyahu he doesn't think netanyahu should respond at all. it is the continuing part of this public game that they are planning which frankly encourages iran and has below which we haven't even talked about and the houthis and all
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these other elements that are targeting israel >> your leader, senator mitch mcconnell says the first of business in congress is for the house to pass that foreign aid supplemental bill that passed the senate months ago which includes funding for israel as well as ukraine and taiwan. do you agree >> well, i know when it comes to israel, the house is on i think two occasions now passed. israel funding. it sits languishing on the floor of the senate. i know there was an effort by senator roger marshall to pass israel aid. this was a couple of months ago. it was blocked by the democrats so yeah, we could go on monday to washington, dc. we can pass aid israel. right away >> what about the house acting? you're i mean, that's the house has already acted and i imagined if the senate, the house were to send the senate where to send the house and israel aid bill on monday, the house will pass it. i have little dog well, i could have done it already before. >> you don't support tying it to the ukraine aid well, the
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problem with tying it to the >> ukraine aid is that as we have said, very clearly and i think there's any mystery here. will i for one, but not everybody, but i want to prepare to help ukraine, but i want to see us deal with the southern border and, that was the that was the negotiation. that was the talk. that was the agreement. that's what what's going to happen. and it didn't happen. what they came up with as unacceptable when it came to the border but i remain a supportive helping ukraine, but i'm a big supporter and even bigger supporter of helping america. i'm an american senator. and so i hope those two things can happen in conjunction. but when it comes to israel this, is this is something that has long enjoyed strong bipartisan support. we can vote on it on monday. it should be able to pass unanimously. have not wish to take votes on it. and i am confident the house would pass it very quickly thereafter because they've done so already >> iran says its attack and you already alluded to this was in response to the alleged israeli strike on the iranian embassy complex the syria in which at least seven iranian military officials were killed, including a senior irgc
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official. what do you say to those who wonder if israel crossed a line by targeting an embassy and what do you say to those who say that that gave her on no choice but to respond well, first, i think there misinformed. what is what was hit was an annex building. next to a consulate. it was an annex building occupied by irgc agents who are target, they are on the ground in lebanon every single day coordinating and helping hezbollah and others in the region attack israel. i think lost in all of this, we talk about the 300 launches against israel yesterday, the night before, just the night before 32, 50 rockets were launched from lebanon by hezbollah against israel. there are close to 90,000 currently internally displaced israelis that cannot return to their homes in northern israel because it is under constant bombardment from hezbollah how is hezbollah attacking them? they are using the targeting information being provided by those irgc agents. the weapons
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being provided to them. and these long-range missiles, rockets, and precision strike weapons being provided to them by those irgc officials. this is almost a daily occurrence. it almost is like, oh, yeah, there was another 50 rockets yesterday. those are the guys running that. and those guys are legitimate military targets. and they were struck in an annex building that was near the console. that's what that was. yeah. i mean, you're attacking israel. >> we're just going to let but those guys sit there behind some desk and continue to coordinate, the delivery of weapons and intelligence information so that israelis cannot live in the north. it is part of the strategy and this idea that's just like the soleimani stuff for all these people around crying because soleimani was killed, they called it an assassination this guy is his hands were drenched in the blood of americans because of the ieds that they help provide in iraq during that conflict. these people are legitimate military targets your colleague, senator marsha blackburn, tennessee called on president biden to quote, move quickly and launch aggressive retaliatory strikes on iran
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unquote. do you support us strikes on iran? and if not, how do you think the biden administration should respond? >> well, i support defending american troops in the region. we have people stationed in the region and multiple countries. and we sent them there, whether people liked them being there and not the bottom line is we sent these young americans there and our job is to protect them. so i'm in favor doing anything we can to protect them and prevent them from being attacked. but israel has not asking us to launch attacks on iran i am not have ever heard the israelis come to us and say, will you help us or will you attack iran are going after a run, they're not asking for that. they're not asking for it. but i think we go from that to the other extreme, which is joe biden telling netanyahu, take the wind, don't do anything, then his people linking it to the media, leaking into the press and what it sets up is they know that is israel is going to respond. they know this for a fact. so why would they white house leak it? there's only one reason they leaked that. and that is that so when israel does respond, the white house can say, we told them not to do it. and at least some in some way
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appease the so-called peace activists. by the way, the so ceasefire. now, people who were out yesterday cheering the launch of hundreds of rockets and drones and missiles against israel. people that are out there cheering military attacks of this scale and scope are not peace activists. these are anti-semites anti-israel pro terrorist elements out there. and we need to stop calling them peace activists. they are not peace activists. you don't. peace activists do not cheer massive attacks against other countries, which is what they were doing yesterday. so i guess this is part of the white house's effort to appease them by putting this out that proactively so in a marco rubio republican in florida, vice chair of the senate intelligence committee. thank you so much for coming on today >> thank you >> bye. next to guesstimate, maybe on the same page when it comes to supporting israel, but they could not disagree more when it comes to ukraine, senators john fetterman of pennsylvania and jd vance of ohio are next hey, with priceline vip family, you can unlock deals five times faster. you don't even have to be an actual family on the day. physically, >> it's clear that i'm the
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getting new images of the israeli war cabinet meeting two today to determine how israel will respond to the iranian bombardment on its country here at home, us lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are weighing a path forward joining us down to discuss democratic senator john fetterman from the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. senator. what is your reaction to iran's attack on israel? how worried are you that this is the beginning of an open war between the two countries >> well, a couple of things actually, i think it really demonstrates how it's astonishing that we are not standing firmly with israel and there should never be any kinds of conditions. all that. when a nation can launch hundreds of drones towards israel. and i'm not going to be talking about conditions ever and second, i think that also was i ran had to have some fireworks after israel smoked that iranian general and i am here for that
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and i think it's just about thereof theater, part of it as well too. and finally, it demonstrates how unstable things are and why we need to lean in and stand with israel. >> how do you think israel should respond? should israel strike within iranian territory or are you concerned that that might only escalate matters further? >> well, i'm i'm not going to suggest that what israel should or shouldn't do on that. but i also do think that iran is pleased with they have enough of money on the table with all of its proxy is oraa in the region as well too. and i ran certainly can't take on israel and certainly not us. so i think they would just like i keep things as they go. and then after they made a point back, i think they could go pretty quiet and go back to just using the proxies. >> a senior administration official tells cnn that the president biden, told prime minister netanyahu that the us will not participate in any offensive operations against
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iran. do you think that it's the right call or should direct us military action as some of your colleagues in the senate are suggesting, should that be on the table >> i don't agree with that and i'm just i'm just think we should follow and have israel's back in the situation. i don't agree with the president that doesn't and change anything that he's a fantastic president. and i'm proud to stand with him and campaign for him and vote for him >> marco rubio was just on the show and he said the white house leaking. the fact that biden told netanyahu not to directly respond to take the win, quote, unquote boat was offensive to him because it seemed to suggest that it's biden trying to appease the far left in his party. what's your response? >> i don't know. >> the >> president is entitled to his own views and whatever he
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decides to do. but i would never capitulate capitulate to the fringe. i'll never pander to that as well. in fact, that helps that empowers hamas and hamas is this can there actually convinced that they are winning the pr war? and they're never going to negotiate at this point. they think that they're going to hold onto the very end. and i and i know why they're not willing to provide any kind of proof of life and i don't know why there's not more of that conversation in the media. like what about the hostages? what's happened to them? where are they now? let's just bring them home and then all of the harsh words should be directed at hamas, which started this and now continues to hold all of over 100 israeli hostages. >> well, why do you think >> there isn't more criticism of commas >> and >> acknowledgment of the fact that they are holding however, many are still alive, dozens,
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perhaps hostages from israel in tunnels in gaza and elsewhere well, of course, hamas, they're just, they're cowards, they're rapists, and they attack civilians and they are now hiding >> in those tunnels. and it's really true. the president couldn't end this war today netanyahu couldn't read this, and this today, but hamas could end this today right now. and all the devastation and the death and all of that. if they just released it all the hostages and surrendered. and of course they won't do that. and that's why we're in this situation. >> former president trump was in pennsylvania last night's schnucks ville, pennsylvania. he said the president biden's quote, weakness was to blame for the attack on israel and said it would never have attack had happened if he was still president. what's your response to that? and are you worried about trump's strengths according to polls in pennsylvania? >> well, i got 99 things and i
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what trump saying isn't one of them that i really, my, my advice for him as he should really be focusing on his time in court tomorrow he, will be in court tomorrow in the first criminal trial. are you worried about trump winning pennsylvania >> well, no. i mean, it's going to be closing and trump isn't. of course, these very popular here. i've been saying that same thing, eight years ago in 2016. and i was just concerned and now i'd like to point out that joe biden is the only american that ever beat trump politically. and he's going to do it again and he's going to carry pennsylvania. and it's going to be close. but that that also requires that he's going to put in the work that he's doing that infect them this upcoming week is going to do just that the minority leader of the senate, mitch mcconnell, said that the speaker of the house should put forward that foreign aid
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package >> and pass that bill as soon as possible. it includes aid to israel, but also aid to ukraine and taiwan. i asked senator rubio what he thought it about that and he said that he seems to be suggesting that aid to israel could pass the senate tomorrow. that it had already passed the house on its own, and that aid to ukraine should not be attached to that. what's your view? >> well, that's a that's a polling and i'll never understand that when i was growing up, we all agreed that russia is the evil empire and we got to stand with that. we're all in that same flight and we all need to stand with all these democracies. israel, ukraine, and taiwan as well too. and i understand my colleague is coming up after me and i don't understand where my colleague vance has about ukraine as well too. in fact, he owns in my opinion that dumbest thing i've ever heard about ukraine where he claims to some effect that he doesn't care what happens in ukraine.
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and that's astonishing to me. and i don't understand the motivation to that as well too, but all i can conclude is that a lot signs with what donald trump says and i don't understand why donald trump seems to love putin as well too, but it's a disgrace if we don't deliver this aid. i voted for it and we need to deliver that and stand with our allies and stand with democracy. >> are senator john fetterman from the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. thank you so much. really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me on. >> as you just heard from senator fetterman, we also have what classes republican senator from ohio, close ally of donald trump, senator jd vance, republican of ohio. so i will get to the middle east in a second, but he just put the ukraine issue on the four. and what is your response? >> well, first, shake the idea that putin loves donald trump or donald trump loves putin is absolutely absurd. putin was actually pretty well behaved during the trump administration. he invaded another country during the biden ministration for these guys to say that putin prefers
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donald trump is completely ignores the underlying realities on the ground here we actually had some real security deterrence when donald trump was president. and of course it's not just in ukraine. so again, what would fetterman saying is preposterous reality show's putin didn't like when donald trump was president and was a lot better behaved. and i think to accuse donald trump of being pro-putin completely nor is the reality on the ground. >> what fetterman might say where he here is that putin was getting a lot of things that he wanted out of donald trump. so he didn't need to be as hostile. donald trump was clearly more friendly to him than other presidents have been one way or the other. but also, donald trump was more hostile to nato i don't think that's right, jake, i think hello, trump >> did is he engaged in strategic deterrence? you have to negotiate sometimes even with bad people, even with your enemies. but you have to deter those people. and if you engage in smart deterrence like donald trump did, he doesn't invade countries like ukraine. so i
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don't buy that argument, but i understand why democrats repeat that topic. well, let me ask you >> about ukraine because you wrote an op-ed in the new york times saying that you don't think it makes sense the biden pitch for aid to ukraine you've been accused of appeasement. you've been accused of surrender even the national review had a column about that. and again, i'm gonna get to iran and israel, which i know is a big pressing story. but i do want you to address that because the national review it's basically saying that your solution to the problem of russia invading a sovereign nation, ukraine, is to just surrender. are they wrong >> no, look, my solution to the problem is to rebuild our own country the reason that we're in this position, jake, is because we're stretched away too thin were stretched way too thin. and the number of weapons systems that we need, you crane needs the taiwan needs that israel needs and we can't do all of these things at once. so when you're stretched too thin, you have got to focus and you've got to rebuild your own country. let's take just one of those weapons systems that we're talking about 155
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millimeter artillery shells. the russians currently have a five to one advantage over the ukrainians, the israelis will lead this stuff. the taiwanese need this stuff and of course, america needs this stuff. can we possibly fight all of those conflicts at wants to know the math just doesn't make sense. so what we should be doing is with ukraine encouraging them to take a defensive posture, not these disastrous counteroffensive. the biden administration has been promoting it kinda events the counteroffensive is within ukraine and they're not seeking land from russia. and in fact, just i'm just passing judgment on the morality of what they're doing. of course, it's their territory, jake, but you have to acknowledge military reality on the ground if they're going to waste a ton of money at ton of lives and a ton of ammunition on a counter offensive strategy. but a defensive strategy might actually work. we've got to choose the strategy that might actually work. >> the counteroffensive is >> when a g is within ukrainian territory, just today, zelenskyy was suggesting that the strike by iran on israel should serve as a wakeup call
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in terms of this greater battle. and maybe you disagree with people who see it this way between autocracies and democracies, israel being a democracy as is ukraine, iran, and russia being autocracies. what, what do you say to that? >> well, i think foreign policy is not a nursery rhyme and it should serve as a wakeup call, but it should serve as a wakeup call. the we have to rebuild our an industrial base. let's take another weapon it's really important that patriot interceptor system definitely almost definitely saved a lot of israeli lives last night, the ukrainians want thousands of those per year. do you know how many we manufacturer in a year, jake, 550. we cannot possibly. >> i've >> repeated this for years now. we cannot possibly support, ukraine and israel and our own defense needs in the way that these guys demands. so i think we should focus, i think israel is a much closer ally, is a much more core american national security interests. and of course, we've got to focus on ourselves. that means encouraging the ukrainians to take a defensive strategy. this is really important, jake,
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because you're gonna hear a lot of calls across washington dc we now have to pass the supplemental, right. but if we pass the ukraine and israel supplemental and send a ton of weapons to ukraine that the israelis need. we're actually weakening israel in the name of helping them. it doesn't make any sense settlement or his mathematical reality, the supplemental which your leaders senator mcconnell has called on the house to pass the supplemental contains money for israel and ukraine and taiwan. so it's not a question of either or i's a questi of both. >> i thinkt is a question of either or j because it's not out the money again, it's about the weapons. if we pass the supplemental, we go from making 550 patriot interceptors to 650. that's 100 more in the world needs thousands these things. so really it goes back to the basic math of this. if you don't make enough weapons to fight three wars, you've got to figure out how to focus and my proposals we focus on ourselves and we focused on our closest allies. so let's talk about that what do you think israel should do? what do you think the us should do in
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response to iran's unprecedented attack on israel, it will look, first of all, we condemned the iranian attack. it's great to actually see bipartisan leadership from across the aisle saying that we certainly stand with our friends in israel. i'm not going to pretend to counsel israel on their strategic response to this. i think the most important thing for the united states here is to one, prevent this from becoming a broader regional conflict. because we're already stretched very thin and two support our israeli allies. i'm sure they're talking to the iranians through back-channels. i'm sure they know a lot more than a senator in washington, dc and i think we should defer to their strategic wisdom because it's their country and they should, they should call the shots. >> what about those who fear that israel escalating? and again, i'm not i'm expressing my opinion. but what about those who fear that israel escalating risks a greater war? i mean, you heard, we've heard senator was on the show earlier saying everyone needs to take a breath, and then you heard john bolton on the show saying that this is an example of what
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deterrence has got us and there needs to be a much it's more muscular response. well, look, i certainly think there is a real fear of escalation. senator is right about that part of the reason why we have a fear of escalation, jake, is because are deterrence is so weak. and why is it so weak? because the world sees the united states that stretched so thin. i think if we want to re-establish deterrence, the most important thing is not how we or israel responded but this attack, it's how we focus on the long-term on rebuilding our country. people are worried that we're not thumping our chest enough. i know that's the john bolton response to this. people think that the united states is a paper tiger right now, we've got to rebuild our manufacturing capacity. we've got to rebuild our capacity to support our own troops and our allies with if weapon system. that is what will reestablish deterrence. and that's unfortunately, i think this supplemental actually spreads this even further and even thinner instead of focusing, focus is what's going to create deterrence. so you would, you would agree with what senator rubio said earlier in the show that the senate should just pick up the aid bill for
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israel, just discretely for israel, that the house passed. what's important, jake, to remember what senator rubio said as i understand it is exactly right. the senate can pass an israel supplemental tomorrow. in the united states senate, the house has taken it up already. the senate's already taken up a couple of different versions that senate democrats have blocked. so we could get this out of the us congress tomorrow if democrats didn't block it. and again, we've got to focus on our core problems. i think israel is much more important. the united states in ukraine, us. all right senator jd vance, republican of ohio, please come back again soon. thanks so much >> next i'm going to ask >> the former director of national intelligence about the significance of frans attack and what he thinks israel should do. now stay with us >> final 100% free with turbotax free edition, roughly 37% of taxpayers qualify form ten 40 and limited credits only. see how a turbotax.com that's me when you're the
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projectile is targeting israel specifically missiles and attack drones joining us now, the former director of national intelligence under president obama retired general james clapper so first of all, just the size and scope of this. we've never seen anything quite like this in terms of iran directly launching attack on israel. so it does seem to mark a change and inflection point of some sort. yes. >> oh, no question. which take that uh, reuben khan was been crossed her with the rahm directly attacking from iranian iran proper to israel proper >> that's >> though the size of the attack, i think was very measured it did not. i think the iranians had to know that it would not overwhelm the coalition air defense system >> and then >> at the end of it, they declared it was done without
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having accomplished much in the way of damage. so i think there was a messaging here but i still believe despite this very profound event that the iranians don't want a wider war as strange as that may seem >> so explain to people at home who think, gentlemen, there are saying general clapper, how can you say they don't want a wider war, they just fired 300 attack drones and missiles at israel. but you think that the way they did it is significant? >> well, i do because first they telegraphed that they sent slow-moving drones out first, which you had hours to prepare for. and iranians have a lot of muscles ballistic missiles and cruise missile. so if they had wanted to, i believe they could have overwhelmed the israeli air defense system and out of the coalition, which was very important. i just 20% or so of
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the projectile's were new, neutralized by us or other coalition elements. so the whole way they went about this, i think was very deliberate very measured. i don't think they want a wider war. and of course now it's all up to the israelis >> so the united states does not have an embassy in iran. iran doesn't have an embassy in the united states you think that this information about a week ago maybe, or maybe a little bit less the biden administration started announcing or leaking to newspapers there's intelligence that iran is going to attack israel you think it's possible that iran leak that intentionally >> i think it's quite possible they may have conveyed to us, so i think they probably weren't all that careful about masking their preparation the fact that president biden came back from delaware early
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convene national security team. all these things telling me that we had good insight into what the urania is. we're going to do >> and so why do it? so why would they do? >> i think the israelis have the iranians have their own domestic political pressures they have, they have some there are some very hard liners now surrounding the supreme leader so i think they had that constituency to placate. and the fact that they showed the parade or if you will of several tori parade and tehran of the joyful iranians. so happy about the attack. and i think that's what was important to the iranians and i still believed they don't want a wider war is in congruence, is that may, that may sound, but their proxies are doing things that are not meant to be
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eliminated. their proxies come is slaughtering 1,200 israelis, hezbollah firing rockets into the north of israel. >> so as >> tens of thousands of israelis can even live in their homes, the houthis shutting down coastal passages. i mean, now ocean passages so that seems in congruence to a does. and i think that raises the question is just how much control iran actually has over the, over the proxy. say, i think they have their own objectives and they're going to try to fulfill them. and in case particularly in the case of visible. >> well, this is a >> great opportunity for them to weigh in an increase the attacks from southern lebanon into northern israel so this is not a rosy picture for iran either. put a doubling. >> all right, retired general
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hi oversaw alvarez at the white house, and this is cnn >> and welcome back to state of the union. a special live expanded edition. i'm jake tapper and joining us now to discuss iranian journalist and activist masia at alina judge, he has been an outspoken critic of the islamic regime throughout her career masi, thank you so much for joining us. so you have condemned the strikes launched by the iranian regime against israel. what do you make of this over action by iran in what has been for
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decades? basically a shadow war fought by proxies or in darkness >> i think this is the end of proxy war. and that became a turning point in the middle east. that from now on, the islamic republic is directly involved yes, i have strongly condemned the attacks alongside millions of iranians. the opposition from syria, from iraq, iran, they condemn that but we believe that should be a tipping point for democratic countries to use this opportunity to have a united alliance against the islamic republic because luck, people of iran don't want war. but these amok republic wants to bring stability in the region for them, doesn't matter. it's spring war in the region and that's why we believe that a lack of action will embolden these damaged republic to
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actually come back more stronger. >> so you think that israel should respond militarily and strongly by by what's striking military targets within iran >> it's not on me, it's on these ryan government to make decision. but of course, i don't want my people to be heard, but targeted military action against the a high-ranking member of revolutionary guards actually made a lot if you're and people to celebrate the killings of the commanders, like some soleimani and recently in syria, because a lot of people believed that all these high ranking members of revolutionary guards were to plan another october 7. so that's why i strongly believe that democratic countries right now has no excuse especially the eu canada, the ally, the allies of the united states of america, to designate the
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revolution in regards as a terrorist organization, first and second, they should be all, united to empower the people of iran. the people of iraq, syria, who want to get rid of islamic republic. so they have to think about how political change, this is the ultimate solution if you want peace and stability in the region, we should think about ending the war monger regime of iran by empowering the civil society, especially the women of iran right now that i'm talking to you, the islamic republic is waging war against women buttoning up in the streets. so by in these unarmed woman to end islamic republic, that would make the rest of the word and the >> region much safer place to live. >> how concerned are you about iranian women and people who have taken to the streets to protest the regime into her ron, given what seems a real moment of significant
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instability in the region >> and it is beyond side because i remember after the brutal murder of mahsa amini, when more than 800 innocent people got killed, we have warned the united, the democratic countries that if you don't take actions on don't support the people of iran to end this war, mangers a gym. you will face them on your soil and that brought them in a position emboldened them to actually attack civilians in israel >> whichever canadian >> citizens they were citizens across the globe, unarmed people, they naked body would grabbed and raped by hamas, who was a sponsored and trained by the islamic republic. yeah. so being quiet against islamic republic they will encourage them to create more chaos across the globe. >> i see alina john. thank you so much, really appreciate it as always, we'll be right back
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