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claim your $7 trial. >> i'm natasha bertrand at the pentagon. >> and this is cnn >> glows captioning brought to you by feel away, optimum enhanced calming for cats. >> have your cats sprays >> outside the litter box, fights with other cats were scratches the furniture, they could be telling you their stress to help them feel more calm, try feel away optimum >> tonight on >> 360, the deaf and legacy of oj simpson, who's double murder trial became a must-see tv and aurore saturday test on race, celebrity. and justice in america also tonight, abortion. and how the fight over it reveals the growing influence of religious nationalism on american politics. plus a preview of tomorrow's pilgrimage by the speaker of the house to see the former president. and they are expected subject i've discussion election security of all things >> good evening. >> anderson is off. i'm jim sciutto. we begin with oj
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simpson, who we learned today has died of cancer at the age of 76. and we start by saying it is impossible to overstate his fame for decades or the decades it's a notoriety, notoriety that followed starting here >> california highway patrol has now confirmed to cnn that it is definitely hours >> and they are almost certain that oj is in the passenger seat. >> june 17, 1994, an estimated 95 million americans watch this in real time. it was the ultimate drama on the biggest stage imaginable, involving a celebrity in a city of celebrities now accused of two murders and make no mistake j simpson, celebrity went well beyond sports, whether it was winning the heisman trophy at usc or becoming the first nfl player to run for more than
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2000 yards in a single season. he turned that fame into a commercial calling cards such that millions of people who'd never seen him play, watched him run and through airports for hertz rent-a-car and millions more tuned in every week to see any here i'm doing color and commentary on monday night football. and if he wasn't on tv or in commercials on tv, he was in the movies, none masterpieces, but most enduring. and all of it giving simpson the kind of appeal that trend and send it racial tensions in los angeles and the country then. and which is why in june of 1994, so many people were so shocked when he was charged with the double murder of his wife, nicole brown simpson, and her friend, ron goldman and y it should be set as plainly as we can that many will neither miss nor mourn orenthal james simpson today, the sr and father of ron
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goldman, whom he was found civilly liable of killing along with his former wife nicole, said this for three decades, we tirelessly pursued justice for ron and nicole and despite a civil judgment and his confession in if i did, it, the hope for true accountability has ended if i did it, you may remember is the title of the bizarre accounts simpson wrote about those killings. the killings and the spectacle of the trial that followed are we're seeing cnn's jean casarez starts as off >> it is now 7:00 in los angeles. >> this was the most famous car chase in television history. june 17, 1994, the los angeles police department announced football legend oj simpson is wanted in the killings of his ex-wife, nicole brown simpson, and her friend ron goldman los angeles police department, right now he is actively searching for mr. simpson.
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>> mr. simpson is a fugitive of justice, right now. >> let me get to my house. okay. we're gonna do that where i'll give you what i'll give you my whole body i need to get to my records. we're going to do that. just throw the gun out the window. >> o j. simpson was now a fugitive from justice. later that night, he was taken into custody and charged with two counts of first-degree murder. >> he who was held without bail at his arraignment. he pleaded not guilty >> the >> televised trial of the century watched by millions. >> ladies and gentlemen of the jury >> the prosecution led by marcia clark and chris darden, lined up a slew of witnesses like cato hey, lynn a longtime house guest of simpson kaitlyn who became a household name, testified he saw oj simpson on his property the night of the murders and contradicted some of simpson's versions of
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events. >> i heard a thumping noise how many sons did you hear? objection >> yes, three no brown simpson sister denise took the stand telling jurors how simpson abused nicole >> pictures of her bruised face shown in court. >> it was more of a of like a glazed over kind of frightening, dark it just didn't look like boj that we knew lead prosecutor marcia clark introduce dna evidence from blood samples collected by detective marked fuhrman others that pointed directly at simpson but it was a cross-examination of that evidence and fermin by simpson's so-called legal dream team. including johnnie cochran and barry scheck that
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poked holes in the prosecution's case scheck question and lapd criminologist who conceded there were procedural errors and how the blood samples were collected at simpsons brentwood home under cross-examination, defense attorney f. lee bailey accused detective fuhrman of racial bias and using racist language, something fuhrman denied. >> tell us please what it was you offered lawyers in that room of your vocabulary, detective, from today would you answer? yes >> that i don't use any type of language to describe people of any race such as what is alleged tape recordings played in court proved otherwise credibility the goldman family who did not miss a day of court
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lashed out at the defense. >> ron and nicole were butchered, but it was this pivotal moment considered a huge miscalculation by the product so chris darden as simpson, to put on the bloody glove,nd athe ene resulting in cochrane saying the moment famous ne of the trial in his closing, our district, if it doesn't fit you must acquit after listening to more than eight months of testimony, the sequestered jury reached a verdict in less than four hours. >> we the jury and the above in title action, find the defendant or oren thought all jason and not guilty of the crime of murder right? >> and kim goldman, >> were visibly >> distraught in the just this will not serve in the circus-like atmosphere outside court. the reaction much different. cheers erupting as the crowd reacted to the
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not-guilty verdict oj simpson was a free man >> and following >> this acquittal, there was a troubled life for oj simpson. there was that civil case, and there was a verdict in that civil verdict i've wrongful death, that the goldman's deserve justice for oj simpson moved to florida. there were some infractions with the law and then there were charges in the state of nevada very serious charges of kidnapping, an armed robbery. he was convicted, he was sentenced to 33 years in prison. he went to pray prison in nevada, served nine of those years, and then got out jim jean casarez. thanks so much for joining us now, jim morais, who anchored hour after hour of simpson coverage for cnn. he's currently chief correspondent for inside edition alta. jeffrey toobin peeves the courtroom for that not guilty verdict. he's written the definitive, bestselling book
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about the case, the run of his life, the people, the oj simpson, also with us, laura coates, cnn chief legal analyst, anchor of laura coates live, which airs tonight. with the special edition at 11:00 eastern time. jeff, i want to begin with you you covered the oj simpson trial extensively. you were in that courtroom right behind goldman's family when that verdict was read. and i can only imagine that moment seeing there a reaction there, but i wonder a bigger picture. why in your view, was the public so fascinated with this case at the time from that bronco trace all the way through the verdict and beyond. it's still fascinated frankly to this day. >> well, let me give you, give you two reasons. one was this is a case that combined everything that obsessed the american people. it had sex, race, hollywood violence sports, and the only eyewitness was a dog. i mean, this was a perfect distillation of what interest americans second, it is worth remembering how different the news media was in
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those days. there was no internet, there was no social media. there was very limited cable tv. there was only cnn and court tv. no, msnbc know fox news. >> so the fact that it was on every day, all de on cnn and court tv generated a tremendous amount of attention and it was incredibly interesting. it was a complicated story. i don't think it was a mysterious story. i think it is very clear it was to me then and it certainly is to me now that oj was absolutely guilty of these two murders, but it was a fascinating story and there was nowhere else to go in the mid 90s. and that's where people went yeah, certainly the drama of a steep fall from grace as well. laura, do you believe oj simpson is acquittal had more to do with that dream team of lawyers vingp to thadream te hype. hype or the prosecution making mr.
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missteps, as you know, they came under enormous public criticism or this mix of celebrity and race and how that factored into this. >> i think all of it plays into this, but also this is not happening in a vacuum it's happening a few years after the savage beating of rodney king. it's happening where people are viewing the justice system really the legal systems driving to be a justice system through the lens of race. they're looking at police officers and law enforcement that they do not trust. and the notion that there could be somebody to either plant evidence was not so far-fetched to so many people. i think you're also looking at the idea of the composition of the jury, which tells you just how important the jury composition really is. how did the jurists feel? how do they think about the overall system and how do they trust the actual officers? and remember, this is a really interesting dynamic because over the course of modern american history, well, even not so modern, the idea of a race othe defendant bein different than theace of victimusually does n. a nuare thbefit of bck and brown people ts inst
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it was so ocki des smany that white victims at e hand of an alledefendt who was in the end was really something that was selling ta t of people. but this is going to live its way in infamy for so many reasons, for althe thin being led by tho famous lines by one johnnie can aighly esteemed lawyer entire dream te, but it's also why the notionrace became all average blac brown use the defendant who is facing the idea of law enforcement, it could not berusted or the weight of ce and beyond could not have afforded that rticular dream team or that competition had they not been somebody like orthal, jas son timatelyno one went to prison for these. whoever whether whether you believe the acquittal or not, one there was jti sd. jim as jeff was noting there, this wa pre-social med. it was pre iphones it was free people eeng their reactio in the moment. and yet millions of people around the world
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followed this case. they felt in this case, in many waysuo me had ont row seat to this throughout. had you ever seen anything like it up to that point? and have you seen anything similar sets >> none of us had it really was a shared experience and jeff is right. you had the merger of hollywood. you had race, you had celebrity, you had money the different judicial systems for all of those and the only way you could keep up with this and it became this national session that was really in a way ushering in reality television. because this took the place of a soap opera. soap operas were basically taken off the air during the period that this trial was on because you had a national soap opera that people were watching and it was a serious one with real life consequences and tonight when oj simpson has now passed away, i think it's important to remember the victims and their families because they are the ones who had justice denied.
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and i agree with jeff that if you look at the evidence in this case, it was overwhelming, but you had so many different things at play here in terms of race, specifically, that allowed this jury to say a not guilty and be comfortable with it so i don't think any of us will ever see anything like this again, because the audience now is so splintered. but this was truly a shared experience with some hundred and 4,050 million people watching that verdict live. you'll never see that again. this was really the first major televised trial where people were having a bird's-eye i view of everything that was going on and it was warts and all. and it's important as well, by the way, around the world, i should note, i was, i was in tokyo at the time i watched that slow speed car chase scene around the world. there were international viewers to this as well, sorry jeff, yeah. >> i was just saying as important as the courtroom experience was for the public, the even bigger legacy of this case is what happened on the day of the verdict, because everybody knew when the verdict
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was going to be announced and television stations all over the country had their cameras poised at audiences and you had racially different audiences. people, you had rge grps of white peopleand you saw cheeng on largely black audiences and shock and har, in thite audiences and it is rare in our experience. today. rtunaty, it's re that we displayein suca transpart way aswas at tt moment. and it was a real education. it me about how therina n for justice experice system is exceby black people and whitpeoplen this country. actions was at tremendous eye-opening perice laura, i was thlier tay as i watched bill clinton's commen on the verdict afterwards because of course, he w acknowledging that the
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enormous divisions and he was noting >> ithe 30 years since civil rights legislation, many blacks in this country feel that they haven't made as much progress as they might have hoped, acknowledging that and it struck me that was 30 years before it's been 30 years since then >> are >> those divisions as pronouedoday, i think the reaction to george floyd's killing and e blaclives tter protests that that was a equally national experience. onmight argue, are they as pronounced it it has there been progress, progress in some areas is not in others. what's your view? >> i think it's more than a variety of different ways, but i do certainly think that americans do you see the world through the different lenses from their own perspectives and race and forms that in a very distinct way for so many people and when you look at its prickly, the justice system in america, and the way in which the weight of the government is against an individual defendant. we talk what now at the cusp of this extraordinarily surrealist trial turning on monday about this idea of the piphus, suddenly they perhaps to tear justice system that being
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political in some respects but this idea of the wealthy and the non wealthy. now the idea of race and otherwise, these have been issues we've been grappling with as a nation since the justice system was developed. and i think it's all the more informed today, but expanded because people have their own silos. they had their own echo chambers or reinforce how they already feel about an issue. but this showed that for a moment in time, everyone had the same war shack test, the same ink blot, and it was never the same conclusion. >> yeah, the silo, the development of those silos probably one of the biggest sense then write that you don't have that shared experience or the one place you go to, to experience news as it happens? i'm laura coates. thanks so much. jeff toobin as well. good to have you all on tonight and you're 11:00, laura, for a special edition of laura coates live the life and death of oj simpson again, that 11:00 eastern time right here on cnn. next tonight, espn's jeremy shap. and his thoughts on simpson's passing later. only on three 60 cnn's donie o'sullivan investigates the
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>> sunday, april >> 21 at nine we spoke about this before the break, but it bears repeating the oj simpson chase happened at a place and a moment >> uniquely suited to make it unlike anything seen before or since, a place where news choppers were everywhere in a time when cell phones were just starting to become pervasive. during that chase simpson distraught a gun to his head at times, spoke with lapd detective tom lange. and here's one key moment let me get to my house. okay. we're gonna do well i'll give you what my whole body i need to get them we're gonna do that. just roll gun out the window >> we're not going to bother. i'm going to let you go up there. just throw it out to window, please. you scanned every buddy toss it please too many people love you, man, don't give it all up, don't hurt everybody. you're going to hurt everybody. >> i'm just going to believe
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unknown or don't recall if all he listened to to think about everybody else. what do you want a freeway? i could do it in a feel i want to do it at a grave. i want to do it at my out joining us now, jeremy shapp, who covered the case for espn, where he currently hosts eith 60 >> and outside the lines, jeremy good to have you on tonight >> thank you, jim. thank you >> great >> i was watching that video for a moment, >> 30 years >> i was in la that >> day and i remember how surreal it was watching the chase as it was unfolding. i gotten to la that morning. i'd been in chicago so for several days covering the story from chicago, because chicago is where oj simpson flew the night of the murders. he had a meeting with hertz executives and he was staying at the o'hare plaza hotel and so there was media in chicago as
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investigators from los angeles came out to chicago to interview witnesses to collect evidence. and maybe it was the day before, two days before the chase. i don't remember jim at this point. >> but how >> strange it was to be standing in a field somewhere near o'hare airport with all of these police officers and forensics looking for the murder weapon in the field and then going out to la and of course, no one knew where he was for a period of several hours. >> and then i walked into a >> bar in downtown la with a friend of mine and the chase was up on the tv in those days were giant tvs everywhere is like what is that? >> oh, it's oj >> in that bronco. what? >> and i remember spending some time watching it and then walking the streets of la and it was like something from the 1950s when people listened to the world series in their car radios people were pulled over
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with their car radios on, listing to the chase. it's then the helicopters, the dozens of them that were flying in the airspace in la that night, following the chase, it was it was unbelievable >> yeah, there's something old and new about it at the same time, right? old and the sense that you had the country experiencing at once what we so rarely do now, but doing that, there were some technologies there were relatively new the news choppers in the air cell phones and so on. i want to ask you this because oj was what has become far more common today. write a great app athlete who was also a pitch man in movies, their own, just everywhere, omnipresent. but he was, if not the first one, he was certainly one of the first who had that national commercial and sports profile. oj >> simpson was ubiquitous and
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he was especially notable as one of the first african american athletes to make that kind of impact to be a pitch man for corporate america, he was the guy corporate america called to sell its products to pitch it services >> and >> that's one of the ironies here to write gym because the trial of everything that happened over the course of the next 18 months. so much of it, of course, was that race in oj was someone throughout his adult life who had run in his own words, away from the issue of race who the phrase was often used, the oj transcended rates as if that was possible, right >> but, but he was someone who was ubiquitous, who was beloved. there was this persona
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of approachability and friendliness and applicability and today i've been thinking about that. the difference, right? the difference between the public oj you jane, we thought we knew in the reload. >> now, no question. and it's hard to think of a bigger fall from grace certainly in the world of athlete, athletes, jeremy shapp thanks so much for joining >> thanks. june >> and just ahead with the arizona high court's abortion cision bomg a jo campaign top. we' go examine how some in the religious community had become alarmed at the former president's support of what's been called a christian nationalist movement on the right we're gonna have the details next >> confident about what used car to buy, know why not asked the most confident person you know, my old high school coach just say show me the card vax value. you'll get the most accurate price vehicles
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on abortion decision that biden campaign has spent much of this week tying the former president. and the overturn of roe v. wade by justices, he appointed even some state republicans dislike it. arizona senate candidate in an election denier, kari lake, who earlier praise the law, said today, it is quote, out of line with where the people of this state are so i'm really just conservatives in the party. do support it most obviously, the alliance defending freedom, a christian legal advocacy group that helped bring the arizona case. and whose stated goal is quote keeping the doors open for the gospel they're an influential voice inside what some call a growing christian national movement inside the republican party are donie and donie o'sullivan has that story your t-shirt says, jesus christ 24. >> yes. >> i see on the ballot, not on the ballot, but trump so
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doggone close >> do you believe america is a christian country? >> we were founded on christianity circuit. >> i still believe it's a christian country. >> are you a christian? >> yes i man, i don't like what's going on with what you're trying to do >> what are they trying to do? >> well just trying to sign. >> are christians no >> america's founding fathers intentionally separated church and state but trump and some of his most vocal supporters have tried to blur those lines. >> we are going to have one nation under god, which we must we have to have one nation under god and one religion under god. >> this vision of america is known as christian nationalism. i believe that america is a christian nation and that christianity deserves a privileged place in the american government. what i'll hear >> events >> is the founding fathers for christian america was built off christian values y
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>> then is jesus nor christianity mentioned in the constitution? >> trump has seized on christian nationalism and is feeding into us from speeches. >> we are a nation that is hostile to liberty freedom fe and even god. to hawking $160 bible. >> i, brad, you endorse and encourage you to get this bible, a bible that includes the us constitution and lyrics of a lee greenwood song how, any christian can vote for a democrat christian or person of faith person of faith, how you can vote for a democrat is crazy trump is stoking fears that christianity is under attack and only he can save us. >> but no one will be touching the card cross of christ under the trump administration to use christianity to control that. if you don't see christianity in christ, the way we see him,
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then you are not truly christian. and a view not truly christian, then you are not truly american. >> america is a country that has christians are part of it christian nasa so lithium is not kristen at all. >> pastor is jackson jacobson and shaw are part of a campaign here in milwaukee that is trying to fight back against christian nationalism why is christian nationalism and your view such a threat >> threat because is this exclusive? >> can you really with a straight face, look at life, teachings way and death of jesus and line that up with the correlates of christian nationalism, anti muslim racist anti-immigrant. i mean, it just doesn't work. >> polling shows americans differ on the role of christianity in governments. a minority was supported, the government declaring christianity the country's national religion. >> you can't have a multicultural democracy and have a privilege. religion
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doesn't work. >> do you think the laws in this country governments should be based on christianity or is it just totally separate from other? >> we should >> put christ back and to the contrary, for april longs. and the contrary would draw a lot stronger. what does >> that look like? they'll put in christ back into the country, but god back into the church god back into the white tell us where he belongs. >> 44% of americans say the bible should have at least some influence on us law. >> do you think is america a christian country? >> i believed that growing up, i did. yeah. >> founded as a christian country yes, it was founded as a christian country, but obviously in the constitution there is that separation of church and state >> yes. what? um, also always let where i went to public school if we are allowed to pray, when you say is under attack erica, you're talking about in the schools that are not so much in the schools, but
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just i just can't come up with anything right now. but i think the biggest thing is i just don't trust you buy some of these fears are fueled by misinformation. >> and what the hell was biden thinking when he declared easter sunday to be trans visibility? >> international trends, gender visibility day takes place every year on march 31. this year, easter sunday also happened to fall on that day. >> i think more that christians are going to be discriminated against under biden or second what do you mean by that? >> by >> making yesterday? hey, which was the worldwide preston celebration of the resurrection transgender day that was quite a slap in the face >> i will just say that the days they've hired, the trans awareness day on the same days, the past few years it just
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happened that this year it fell on on easter sunday. >> thank you for correcting me. i appreciate that. so do >> you understand it better now? yeah. okay. yeah. i do. god loves trans kansas and he wants them to contact them to >> but not everyone is open to accepting facts. some including church leaders, are pushing lies about the election. >> des, the place right now, if you thought democrat, i don't need mulch around. his shirt, didn't get out you get out, you demon. you can get out your baby butchering an election thief you cannot be a christian invoked democrat in this. night shift. >> and that's that's what worries these pastors. >> i think we are at risk of terrible violence, increasing violence in this country, and the rhetoric that we're hearing a lot from allowed mega preachers is leading us towards the possibility of no-holds-barred warfare, who we really do think that democracy is at stake in the selection >> and looked jim moos, people,
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pretty much everybody we spoke to at that trump rally they believe that christianity has a special place in american society, in american politics. but they were very much four for freedom of religion. they don't necessarily get in the way of anybody else's rights. but what you see in that piece there is that there's leaders in this movement that are trying to take advantage of people's christianity, of their patriotism for the united states and weaponizes in this political way. and i can tell you, we spoke to lots of pastors across the country. they are really, really concerned about this. look, trump's for rotation and appeal to evangelicals is nothing new but especially over covid and everything like that. a lot of pastors have seen. their flock. there congregants leaving to these more extreme as churches and they're worried and then there's the demonizing literally and
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very clear, there is a federal law that bans noncitizens from voting collections. this is not a common problem, but it has become somewhat of a rallying cry for republicans. donald trump doesn't run this far to say that democrats want undocked mended immigrants coming into the country because they think it will help them in the election in 2024. but it allows republicans to link this idea of the elections, which has really become a pet issue for that to the very real and concerning issue to voters, issue of immigration using really fear tactics to say that these people are registering, again to vote so that they can impact the election. i do want to say there are a little bit of nuance here. we know that in some cities across the country they have allowed nonce citizens to vote in non-federal elections. >> something like the school board, for >> example. but this is not some kind of widespread problem. however, we are seeing republic well, it gives painted as such. now, we are also told they're going to use this opportunity to re-litigate the
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2020 election, which both of them tried back in 2022, over trax are the results of their billing this as a press conference, jemand is unclear whether or not there actually going to take questions. however, i'm told by trump advisers they expect them to take questions that does not always mean that they actually take questions though, to, to your point, it sounds like not one, but two. misleading arguments they intend to make tomorrow. kristen holmes, thanks so much. well, republican insiders tonight are quietly at odds with their standard bearers over another non-existing threat and that is fraud with mail-in voting. sara murray has that story where did gop's election skeptics, this is a hard sale in the states >> where ballot harvesting is legal. we are going to ballot harvest where the states have the universal mail-in voting. we are going to run a universal mail-in voting program, especially when the man a top of the ticket can't stop bashing vote by mail. >> we have to get rid of mail-in ballots, give you her mail-in voting. you
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automatically have for rod mail-in voting is totally corrupt. >> republican officials are trying to walk a tight rope, appease donald trump by pursuing efforts to curtail the process. well let the same time convincing the base to bank votes early. >> if we want to compete and win, we must embrace early voting despite that, embrace the republican national committee is also involved in a flurry of legal challenges making it harder for those early votes to count according to a cnn analysis, of dozens of those lawsuits, were filed at lawsuits already in 24 different states to make sure that we've got good rules on the road in pennsylvania, the rnc and other groups have succeeded in having ballots tossed with a missing or incorrect date on the no envelope in ohio, georgia, and florida, the gop is defending restrictions on ballot drop boxes, even in new york, a blue bastion, republicans are challenging a major vote-by-mail expansion enacted last year.
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>> we want this to be the biggest, most proactive election integrity campaign ever. >> the lawsuits are partly to placate trump, who emerged from his 2020 defeat, refusing to accept he had lost and instead complaining he lacked the legal firepower needed to win election challenge just to keep him in the white house. and while gop officials insist trump is coming around, the president has been very consistent lately, right? what he has said is that that we uld ke ultimately e o only be vong on ection day, but that's t the law. his harshriticism h made it harder for battleground state repuicans to catch up to democrats advantage with early voters my name is tom petty and i'm the chairman of the erie county republican party i'd like to talk to my fellow republicans about voting by mail and ballot in swing county, erie, pennsylvania, edey asked trump's team ahead of a local rally last summer to please have the candidate mentioned, he supports mail-in ballots. >> i went to the rally. i'm sitting behind him and he starts talking about voting and
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i thought, oh boy, caricom no such luck. >> firewall fully secure our elections very importantly, and our goal will be one day voting with only paper ballots. >> i think donald trump's, he says, i accept mail-in ballots especially here in pennsylvania and here in erie county. and that will turn them out of people around to say, okay, he accepts that our accepted let's it i mean, it's amazing to watch. it's part of a continuing effort to undermine the results of the 21 mighty confidence in the results of the 2020 election, but have gop officials breast frustration about the president's rhetoric on this. i think >> there is some frustration because they want to win. but when you also talk to these local gop officials, they understand they don't love of mail-in ballots either, but they're saying, look if we want to change the laws, if we want to change the rules, we need to actually win elections. >> there you have it. that's our >> democracy works. it should sara murray, thanks so much. still had gunfire hits a unicef aid convoy, leaving bullet
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wolf blitzer tomorrow with six on cnn unicef, the un >> agency that helps children says one of its vehicles came under fire on wednesday while waiting to enter northern gaza thankfully, no one was injured here's unicef tess ingram, who joins us in just a moment and was part of that convoy >> active shooting broke out in the area. are car was hit by a few bullets are just got back and this be, clear, bullet, hits here another one here along the window. and a few
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others >> this came ten days after seven aid workers with world central kitchen were killed in what israeli officials call eight mistakenly targeted military strike aid agencies are reporting dire needs in gaza and yesterday on capitol hill, samantha power, america's top humanitarian official said, yes, when asked if famine was already occurring in gaza unicef tess ingram joins me now with more test. it's good to have you can you walk us through what exactly happened as i understand it, you are on a coordinated aid mission yesterday in northern gaza what happened next? >> so as you say, it >> was a coordinated >> mission, we'd planned in advance. we have unrwa and unicef colleagues together trying to bring nutrition, supplies, medical supplies, and 10,000 liters of fuel for water
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points in the north of gaza we travel north, we're heading towards the waze. what do you guys checkpoint >> when we're >> instructed to hold at a waiting area which is just south of the checkpoint. and this is a designated area where you, un convoys often happen to wait while whether the gunfire breaks out in the vicinity, it seemed to be coming from the direction of the checkpoint from the north and it seemed to be aimed at civilians who were in the area who then turned and ran away from the checkpoint we were just to the west of them. we were three cars and two tracks. and one of our cars, the car that i was in was hit by three bullets, two on my door, one on the window, on one of the door, and one on the hood of the car. so this is obviously an incident that should not be happening on a coordinated mission in a designated area where we have been instructed to wait let alone at all, jim i wonder in
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those circumstances, you coordinate in advance, so you're communicating with the idf. they know where you're going, why you're going there, you stay in the designated areas in the midst of this gunfire, did you have any ability to call the idf and say, hey, wait a second, we're caught in the middle of this the laid conroe convoy was an unwra vehicle and our security colleagues at the front there, i know that they >> were in contact with israel during this incident or in the wake of it? i'm not sure if they were able to do it immediately during the fire because it was so sudden and quite rapid >> has the idf reached out provided any explanation as to what happened here are responded to your questions no unicef and other parties in the un have reached out to the relevant israeli authorities. but we are yet to receive a response and the response that we're really seeking, jim, is that this won't happen again,
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just seven, eight days after the world central kitchen incident to have something like this happen? when the dialogue has been so much about preventing incidents like this, especially on coordinated missions. that's what we're after >> i spoke to you last week just after that deadly strike on the world central kitchen convoy why? i asked you if you trusted then the idf's pronouncements that it would keep aid convoys safe. you told me then you didn't. and i wonder how you feel now, following this incident look, i think >> that it's clear that the system that is meant to protect humanitarian aid workers in the gaza strip is very broken and what we need is that system to be repaired with urgency so that more incidents like this don't keep happening, not just to us, but to civilians as well. >> has there been any changes in the last week because i
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spoke with senior idf officials as well in the wake of the world central kitchen attack, they said the changes were coming, right? they acknowledged responsibility. they said changes were coming. there's some discussion of putting this reflective tape on the vehicles of aid convoy voice or could easily spotted from the air. have you seen any measures like that taken >> i can't speak for the whole un are humanitarian community, but at unicef know we haven't seen a difference. we don't have that tape on our vehicles. we had this mission that was coordinated and when we still ran into it's dangerous incident and extended delays that ultimately prevented us from completing the mission and taking these important life-saving supplies to the children that need them know when we haven't seen changed yet and it's really needed urgently to make sure that hopefully as more trucks come in, as has been promised, that we're able to distribute that because these two things really go hand in hand the delivery
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