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israel's war strategy against hamas and elevating his criticism of prime minister netanyahu and house republicans delaying their attempt to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas all right 6:00 >> a.m. here in washington, there's a live look at the nation's capital on this wednesday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us problem >> leave it up to the states. >> that was donald trump's big announcement on abortion rights on monday. but it didn't take long for voters to be reminded what leave it up to the states actually can look like. the state supreme court in arizona upheld an 18, 64. yes, that's correct. 18 64 law. the bands all abortions with only one exception for the life of the mother. there are no exceptions for rape or incest. >> the >> law was written before arizona became a state and

before women had the right to vote trump's announcement earlier this week was seemingly designed to help republicans appeal to a broader array of voters. may have backfired just seven months before the election voters in arizona, of course, a key swing state that could decide who wins the presidency, but go to the polls in november with reproductive rights on the line. and in their hands, trump has former president trump has repeatedly expressed pride in the fact that he orchestrated the demise of roe versus wade something that the white house is more than happy to remind voters about >> one-third of all women of reproductive age. now live in a state with an abortion ban. when the president's predecessor handicapped three supreme court justices to overturn roe v. wade. it paved the way for the chaos and confusion we're seeing play out across the country today >> abortion rights have not lost a single time when the

issue has been left to voters, arizona's trained general calls ruling a stain on the state and governor katie hobbs said, she's ready to fight for the fight over reproductive rights. >> and then near total civil war era ban that continues to hang over our heads only serves to create more chaos for women and doctors in our state as governor, i promised i would do everything in my power to protect our reproductive freedom >> all right, are panels here now, former senator doug jones, david froms, staff writer for the atlantic and sure. michael singleton, former deputy chief of staff at hud in the trump administration welcome all. thank you very much for being here. david, from i want to give you the first word on this as you look at how this played out in arizona, it's it's almost the perfect storm and encapsulation of this issue in a single situation, a law from 18, 64 being reinstated well,

the abortion debate is one of the rare cases in 20 american 2024 were american democracy and politics are working the way they're supposed to so long as roe v. wade was in place, it created perverse incentives for everyone in politics. it radicalized people wanted to restrict abortion rights and gave them very unrealistic ideas of what they could achieve and it made defenders of abortion rights complacent because they look to the courts to do the job and the controversy never went away. i never never was resolved in any way because there was this background law that everyone assumed would always be there. now, the background law is gone, and voters have to go to the polls and decide what is a resolution that america can live with. and we're discovering that america is a 70, 30 nation on abortion rights with 70% wanting some version of abortion rights and 30% wanting very restricted. and the 70% will win it will have ramifications up and down the ballot in 2024 lot of republicans who in years past counting on roe v wade, took

extreme positions that they themselves did not believe because it was a free vote. why not? there was no, no downside risks. are now discovering, wait a minute, i may have to act on these words i said, and then when i've acted, i've discovered is banned in vitro fertilization and women across the country and menn two who want to be fathers are angry at me and what we're going to see is an energized democratic party and i think after the chastening lessons of 2024, republican party, that is less radical on the issue than it used to be. >> so to your point about the way people would take this as something that they could could say, i do want to show senator jones what kari lake had to say in the immediate aftermath and dogs being overturned. this was back in june of 2020 and she was talking about the arizona law that has now been put back in play. watch what she said i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the

books. i believe it's ars 133603. so it will prohibit abortion in arizona, except to save the life of a mother senator john. so she said, it's a great law and she's incredibly thrilled this contrast significantly with what she said when this happened yesterday, when she said, i oppose today's ruling and i'm calling on katie hobbs in the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution that arizonans can support that seems to crystallize and you're asking seeing me if that makes sense? >> no. absolutely does not make sense except in the context is david was saying of folks that are now realizing that the dog has caught the car and they don't know what to do. they don't know what to say. they did not think through what they were saying. and in the moment because they were simply pandering to a base of voters in the republic and party. a very extreme pro-life movement. and now they're caught and all of a sudden the same thing we saw happen with the ivf ruling

in an alabama state legislators were running around with their hair on fire saying, oh me, oh, my we didn't anticipate this. we didn't see this coming. >> well, they're right. they didn't because they don't think it through. they didn't think it through. and that's exactly where we are as david described a minute ago. and you're going to see more of that, i think in the near future >> sure. michael, is this the issue that will put it how you want save joe biden, sake donald trump. it's possible. i mean, you're looking at a 10,457 vote difference in arizona granted in 2016, former president trump had a higher vote margin than president biden in 2020. yet, i'm not certain that that will really make much of a difference. donald trump's path to the white house in november will be through a handful of battleground states. he has to maintain north carolina, regained georgia, arizona, nevada, wisconsin he cannot afford to lose one of those four states, either georgia, arizona, nevada, what's continent and expect to win so this idea that abortion is back at the forefront, again, is isn't saturday to meet it. and

i understand the former president wanted to say return it back to the states and i would have argued just hit return it back to the states and allow voters in those states to vote on it. because what we're seeing is when people vote on the issue hello, we want to protect this, right? it is not just democrats, kasie, it's republicans as well. so >> let's remind everyone just where and how donald trump has talked about this issue over the years. we're going to start in 1999, watch this i'm very pro choice. i hate the concept of abortion. >> i'm pro-life. >> there has to be some form of punishment for the woman. >> both sides will come together and for the first time in 52 years, you'll have an issue that we can put behind us at the federal level. it could be state or could be federal. i don't frankly care >> i don't frankly care. i mean, that is he's all over the map. i mean, that's the biden campaign can use that pretty easily >> absolutely. there's no question about it every one of those will be seen over and over and over again. i think in states and you name it, it's

going to be seen and not only that you're going to have their surrogates out there who have said the same thing. you're going to have lindsey graham, you're going to have tim scott, you're going to have all of these every surrogate that donald trump puts out there has the exact same position and i'm i'm i'm like i agree with you. i think it is going to be a killer energy jones, use the analogy of the dog that caught the car, i think this is more like the coyote running off the edge of the cliff. it's on the realizing he's 10,000 feet up and there's nothing that ethan, what does that give you that wily coyote animation next time you come up here, but it's not just donald trump. this is this is the republicans have, over the past generation, been pushed by their own internal dynamics and positions that are sustainable. they don't believe, i mean, donald trump, you can see this is one of the rare cases where you can actually feel sympathy for him. so donald trump's in politics to collect applause into steel. he has no views on abortion whatsoever, any way you want to do it. he doesn't care he just was what he learned was the incentives within his party where to be as extreme as possible in a completely

insincere way. and now suddenly words have meaning, words have results, and therefore words have costs. and once words have costs, politicians measure their words before now, words did not have cost at least on the republican side and they didn't measure that well scuffing really quickly for the image gallegos should be if you want to win in november, you've had to leave this alone. women don't want you coming after their reproductive rights. is that simple? republicans need to understand that >> all right, we are, obviously, we've got a lot to talk about here. we're going to keep talking about this throughout the show, but up next here, why house republicans are holding off on sending the homeland security secretary's impeachment to the senate, plus a long trump confidant facing sentencing today for perjury. and dramatic footage of a bishop's sa a child from a fiery crash there's debris in this guy >> parents, husbands and wives wish i could've done something

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leave during the first impeachment of donald trump and i thought to myself, oh, my gosh, i'm never going to get to cover for an impeachment trial in my whole career. and lo and behold, a year later, i was proven wrong and you've heard critics like ken buck say impeachment has just become a social media stuff, right? >> it is, it's just totally weapon us. this is a policy difference and i think what's going to happen ultimately is they're going to figure out a way to give maybe some time to the impeachment managers to come in, make a quick case, get the vote over and get this over with. this is, this is just wrong. i mean, this is absolutely wrong to put policy differences on the floor in the form of an impeachment trial. >> you really think it's gonna get that far that we're actually going to see people making statements on the floor. >> it's possible. i think it's very possible. i didn't have to. i mean, they could clearly take one vote and have these charges dismissed. but i think in order to make sure that that republicans, democrats have some somewhat of work, some semblance of procedure. there's at least a chance there will be some

small. trial, not necessarily even at trial, but at least statements on the four it gets it over with pretty quickly. >> david, from how do you think about this? >> the >> fact that this would be the first time in history, something like this would happen. >> well, imagine that the social security administration was under-invested in computers for decades as a result, there was a crisis and all the checks were late. people would be mad. >> so you >> i have an idea. let's impeach the social security administrator. what will that accomplish? the computers will still be broken. are the checks will still be late >> it's >> not actually that one person who made the relevant decision that you care about. it's it's decades it's a poor ned which fortunately is not true in the social security administration. so the border doesn't want the immigration system doesn't work. you have massive over stressing of the asylum laws. that's all true. but this guy sitting at the top of the bureaucracy, he couldn't fix it if you wanted to. i don't know whether he wanted to or not. it doesn't matter. it's not a person's malfeasance as or miss reasons

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now is one of the architects of that proposal, congressman catholic more drug, mcmorris rodgers of washington state congresswoman. thank you very much for being here. thank >> so this law could potentially rival what many people in europe have already been enjoying in terms of regulations around how >> companies can use the massive amounts of data that are collected about us when we do simple things on our phones each and every day. can you tell us what your proposal? do? >> yes >> so this would this would really be historic has been long overdue, almost two decades in the making for us to establish a national privacy data security law, protecting individual's personal data online. so it's establishing privacy rights for individuals and it helps all of us, but especially are children. it is different than what europe put into place that has caused a lot of concerns among small businesses, in particular, and what we believe because of the work that we have done, it limits the amount of data that

can be collected to begin with. so data minimization. and then when your data is transferred, when it's sold, you will be notified that your data is being used and you would have an option to opt out of that. so it really is establishing the privacy rights of an individual to know what's being collected, how it's being used if it's being sold, if it's being used in targeted advertising, and you would have more rights over for how your data is being used. what would the >> recourse be >> if, for example, a company wants to sell at my data and i'm notified how according to if this bill goes through as it is, how would i be able to stop that? >> well, it establishes a private right of action for the first time where an individual would be able to bring forward a lawsuit if there's been substantial harm. so we set this threshold in the legislation and the pros proposed bill that there would be if there is substantial harm that has been caused because of the way that your data has been used or sold you be able to

bring that lawsuit forward but for the businesses, we we are interested in targeting businesses that just somehow inadvertently are using data wrong. if you are not selling your data, you're not covered at all. there's a threshold for small businesses and we want to make sure that we're really going after the bad actors in this bill >> what is the position of the major tech companies on this legislation facing? book google. do you anticipate significant pushback from those groups >> yes >> they they collected right now unlimited amounts of data. there is no limit on the amount of data that is being collected. sensitive data, tracking your location, your search history biometric data, there's so this is for the first time, there would be a limitation put on companies as to the collection of data. and then the individual has a right to know what's being collected. so they're not going to be happy about that. and how it

curves the targeted advertising. if you're an individual and you like to get those ads, you go online and you search for a pair of running shoes and all sudden you're flooded with all kinds of theories. shoes. yes. i'm >> familiar, but you would have you would have the you would be empowered for the first time to determine whether or not you want your data to be used like that >> what do they >> collect on us now that they wouldn't be allowed? the collect on us under this law they right now it's unlimited, right? >> i feel like >> i have an example of something i would say right now. we don't even know. so you would have the right to know what's been collected on you if there's a profile that's been put together, then you would have a right to know what's being collected. and then if it is if it is especially for our children under the age of 17 if there's a prohibition on the collection of sensitive data on our children on the tracking the targeting of kids online the dangerous algorithms that have been developed for the purposes of just keeping eyes, you know,

keeping our kids eyes or all of us actually on the screens that is especially helpful for our kids, but it's really foundational as we think about ai. and there's large datasets and how they are going to be used in the future. this is foundational to protecting our privacy online and for individuals to be empowered to actually know what's being collected and then if it's being sold or if as being transferred is going to empower individuals to have more control over that >> why should americans be confident that congress's capable of regulating, tack them? you mentioned ai if it's taken this long for us to get here on data privacy, how is congress prepared to grapple with, i mean, there's papers today are full of the story about meta and them working with openai to create computers that can actually think for us. i mean, is congress prepared to deal with the implications of all this? >> we've had >> number of years, a lot of members on both sides of the

aisle, house and senate that have been working on establishing a privacy right believing that it is important that individuals are somehow protected online and that we have more control over the data that's being collected that we, that we know what's actually being collected. and so there's been a lot of work done year's worth of work, and i'm really encouraged right now that senator cantwell as the chair of commerce committee in that the senate and myself as the chair of the house committee, have been able to hammer out a bill and reach an agreement on some of the preemption of the state laws right now, there's a a patchwork of state laws that yards as even more confusion. so there's been a lot of work done and now we have a moment to act. this would be historic and it's really important for all americans, but especially our kids. >> all right congresswoman cathy mcmorris rodgers, chairwoman of the energy and commerce committee. thank you very much for your time. i really appreciate it. >> okay. today, the trump organization's long serving

formal financial officer, alan weisselberg, will be sentenced to five months in jail for lying under oath to the attorney general about the overvaluation of donald trump's triplex apartment weisselberg, who has already served time for tax evasion, is a longtime trunk trump confidant and has been at the center of trump's business in his dealings, including, if you may remember, the former president's hush money payments to adult film star stormy daniels >> weisselberg is executive one, correct? >> yes. the bottom signature i believe is alan weisselberg. i was asked again with alan weisselberg. i was instructed by alan in the office with me was alan weisselberg. mr. weisselberg, for sure. alan weisselberg. alan weisselberg. alan weisselberg. alan weisselberg, who would know the answer to those questions? alan weisselberg >> okay. >> our panel is back with us david weisselberg has been fiercely loyal to trump. how do you see trump world reacting to

this today? >> i want to widen the frame on this question a little bit. >> yeah, go ahead to deal with something that you will often hear from defenders i'm organization, the trump organized. yes, maybe they allied crazily to their banks but they didn't default on their loans and the banks can't possibly have been fooled. every banker new york knew that donald trump was what he was. who was, who was harmed? and it's important to answer that question. so the answer, the answer that people need to understand when they asked this question, is there there were three parties to these transactions. there was trump the borrower lied about the security of the loan. there was the bank employee who made the loan and collected a bonus for the loan. and there was the bank shareholder who did not receive the payment that the bank was shareholders should have made, should have received for the risk that the bank employee was taken. okay. so i think when people say the bank, they are confusing the people who made the loans were not the people who would suffer if the loans went bad. they didn't own the day they were the employees of the bank. so one of the

things that is going on here and in the background and the reason this case is so serious guess is, i think a lot of these bank officers did know that trump was lying to them and they were working with him against their shareholders, that there was a larger scheme of corruption here of this bad borrower who should have been paying 23% interest rate to like these are unsecured loans. this is what you pay when you get a credit card. and there's no security how do you should've been paying 23%. you shouldn't be getting the loans at all. the bank officers took risks for their bonuses and they stuck their bank shareholders with the risks that the one would go bad. those are the victims and it is not a victimless crime when you steal from shareholders. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. i absolutely agree. and i think there's another 0.2 as a prosecutor, it's not always about the loss to the victim. it's about the profits that could not have been obtained. but for the false statements or the trump organization made money off of lying, they made money off of giving these false statements. and that is just a that's just

not sustainable. it could shatter the entire system up there. so there's it's both the victim and the false prophet that come in to play here, right? >> so sure. michael, i think we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the reason it's being sentenced to anything is because he lied. >> yeah >> he did lie and he's trying to protect someone who worked for for 30 plus years, but i will say to the point of the shareholders maybe they didn't make as much money as they could have made. but i think there was not an american out there who could really care about how much money bankers and finance years and i think most people think they make way too much money as is. and so this is why i've always believed that this particular case in comparison to all the others, really want impact trump. that greatly politically. i think this is complicated, david, explain this was shareholders what does david from talking about here? the other cases are easier to understand. again, he paid back the loans, david, maybe he got a better interest rate, but who out there would not want a better interest rate on their credit cards. there's anything else for that matter. here's

why the ordinary person could care. we are a decade and a half away from the grave as finance mitchell crisis, since the great depression caused when banks go under because at back of the shareholder is the taxpayer >> if, if >> if loans go bad, ultimately it is the taxpayer who pays and these bank officers who recklessly went to man who was lying and whom they may be new was lying that is part of the systematic risk let's get everybody saw the cost of in 2009 were still paying the political, the political in the financial crisis a generation lost opportunities. and that was all behind. that was all done by bad loans. bad loans are not victimless, bad loans are potentially catastrophic. and the taxpayer ultimately backs every low and the system won't crumble because of this it's one particular case, david, that's all i'm the system will crumble if if borrowers get into the habit of lying, people who are out there that are making are taking out loans every day who are being honest and whatever. and they see somebody making a gazillion dollars off of lying that they can relate to. so i agree with

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been grounded twice by the faa. president biden maybe left off another presidential ballot. alabama's secretary of state's as he might not make the ballot because the democratic national convention takes place after they're august 15th deadline i, president biden and the japanese prime minister are meeting for bilateral talks today during an official visit to washington, the bidens welcomed prime minister kishida and his wife at the white house last night ahead of a formal state dinner tonight. cnn's arlette science joins us now, live from the white house with more hello, what's the goal of the visit? what do we expect to see >> well, okay, so you, president biden and japanese prime minister kishida are hoping to showcase the close relationship between the us and japan at a time when they are both trying to blunt the economic and military might of china, japan has really been at the cornerstone of president biden's indo-pacific strategy as he sought to strengthen alliances and partnerships in the region japan has been central to many of the

groupings that the biden administration has announced, but has also served as a key ally of the us in its support for ukraine amid russia's invasion there. now, this will all be on display in just a few hours when the president welcomed fishy to here for the full pomp and circumstance of a south lawn arrival ceremony. the two will have bilateral meetings and a joint news conference as well, and they're preparing to announce a host of initiatives. and part of that includes upping the military, and security ties between the two countries. a senior administration official say that will include changes us force posture in japan as they're trying to integrate the us and japanese military in some ways, officials say that this will take some time to play out and in strategize on it could take a matter of months before there's an actual plan in place. they will also be implementing and creating a military industrial council hello, to talk about ways that they might be able to co-produce defense weapons. there's also expected to be major announcements when it comes to space at a time when

japan has shown keen interest in land in an astronaut on the moon. and then there's efforts to really improve people to people ties at a time when student exchanges have been low. but all of this will be capped off by a the lavish state dinner tonight as they are trying to roll out the red carpet, stressing the closeness of this relationship between the two countries. >> all right. arlette saenz, force at the white house. arlette fix very much for that president biden has previously criticized israel's bombing campaign in gaza as indiscriminate and its military actions as over the top. now, he's using a new word to describe netanyahu's approach to the war. he called it a mistake in an interview with univision, watch this i think what he's doing is a mistake. i don't agree with his approach. i think it's outrageous that those four three vehicles were hit by drones and taken out on a highway where it wasn't like it was along the shore, wasn't like there was a convoy moving or cetera so david, from these

biden comments come as tony blinken was overseas, we showed this earlier in the show saying that he was asking, where's the >> outrage over hamas? so that was the message he was given, but it seems to be a bit at odds with what the president was saying. there. >> i don't think it's hard to understand what the administration is saying and doing. they have delivered every moreover, material aid that israel could need. and they've delivered every form of intelligence aid they have just signed a new deal for the long-term purchase of f 15 jets over the next i don't know how many years that is going to assure as real as air supremacy in the region into the indefinite future. at the same time, they have criticisms, of the way israel's handling this military operation so it is not hard to see that you can balance both material. you have a friend, your friend is making important decisions. you don't think they're all right you back your friend, you provide your friend with everything your friend needs, but when you first make your criticisms privately and then when they go on heard the criticisms become more we're in more public, been pretty obviously what israel is doing is not working.

there is not in six months hamas is still in the fields, still a fighting force. and meanwhile, there are very high cost to civilians and passersby that this is not a successful operation, yet. and the white house is within its rights to say so first privately and then publicly senator, yeah. >> no, i agree. totally with david and i think if you look back, we don't know a lot of what we'll said behind closed doors but in november, december, but i think if you'd look back and start seeing what vice president harris said when she was in selma alabama. that's when you first really i think first started seeing the administrative patient stepping up their criticism a little bit and has been ramping up ever since. and i think it's appropriate. i mean, what people are seeing over there is horrific and there's gotta be some changes. so i think members of congress, even folks like tim kaine and others are now beginning to question sales without conditions and i think you'll see more of that as you go and putting a little bit more pressure how do you think

the president should be balancing the progressive political pressure? he's getting here in this country with from my perspective, i think he needs to be the president united states, not necessarily trying to balance the pressure from the right or the left within the party. he needs to be the leader that he yes, i think he's doing a very good job. he has always been on the one hand, a staunch supporter of israel, but also one that has advocated as a two-state solution. he's very sensitive to the plight of what's going on in gaza right now but that's a very different thing than hamdan that trying to navigate politics within a caucus that can be very fractured on these issues. >> all right, let's go down to this congresswoman marjorie taylor greene's crusade against house speaker mike johnson, facing some pretty intense backlash from house republicans in her strongest threat yet against johnson greene sent a letter to her republican colleagues tuesday making a direct pitch for johnson's removal at several gop lawmakers say they're frustrated with the chaos. green is stoking and that

they're not on her side >> it's an impossible job. the lord jesus himself could not manage his conference for this, can't you just can't do it. >> i think mike johnson has a great human he doesn't lie like the last guy. >> i think people don't like to dysfunction so that's not good for our side. and with the one seat majority does only take a couple of people to create dysfunction. >> i think speaker johnson is working his guts out doing the best he can with a lot of feral cats >> feral cats >> sure. michael marjorie taylor greene the house speaker, mike johnson just did a new interview this morning. we're working on trying to turn some of that around, but basically he said he tried to call marjorie taylor greene. she basically wouldn't take his calls and then he also criticized her as saying it was very dangerous to be throwing this around right now. and she hopes that he hopes that she'll realize that in the end. i mean, i do significantly question what why does she think this is a good idea? >> i don't know what with a

one seat majority they're already likely going to lose the house democrats have an advantage, and this this is brilliant political fodder for democrats to be able to market and every single very tight moderate republican district to say these folks can't govern, they're not doing anything to move the needle forward on immigration, but not tackling the ukrainian issue. they're just not doing anything. people don't want that. i wish casey i can get all the republicans together on it, on immigration on reproductive rights, and on congress and say, what the heck are you guys doing? because as a strategist, we're losing, we're seeding whatever advantage we potentially could on any of these issues to our democratic counterparts. this is nonsensical to me, so it sounds like we actually can show you what what mike johnson had to say about his i mean, i guess it's pretty predictable since like to keep his job still. here's what he said >> pulling a motion to vacate are moving the speaker right now is exactly the opposite of what we need to show the country we can't close the congress downs. that's what will happen. >> they will blame us right? and so it won't hurt our

chances of growing the majority or our party or president trump's chances for his election? and because all of our fates in some sense are tied together. so it's really a very dangerous thing to be waving around a motion to vacate right now when we've got to demonstrate that we can keep this country moving forward. and i hope that you realize that in the end, and i think others are trying to make that case so that's the current house speaker, david, let me show you what the former house speaker, kevin mccarthy had to say about march. marjorie taylor greene recently watched this the one they have always found about margery. she's a very serious legislator that deals with policy and the best way to deal with anyone like that is sit down and talk to him >> day drawing okay. so mine for taylor greene is a licensed cloud of american politics, but i don't think we should make a very serious legislator. i don't think we should make her the center of the story in order to keep his job. speaker johnson is willing to sell out the cause of ukraine. he has we are marking now the sixth month

we're approaching the sixth month of the inaction by this house of representatives on the president's october 20th requests for aid to ukraine ukraine equipped men and women in combat are dying. ukrainian cities are being destroyed all because of speaker johnson's determination to keep his job by not allowing a vote that could be one if he would allow republicans and democrats together because he's sick knowing that he is going to do it. i mean, she is focused on that and saying i'm going to do this. if you do that >> this has no he doesn't have a ukraine strategy. he has a save his job strategy because signals. he's going to do it and then he doesn't do it. it's six months and people are dying and a war is being lost in cities are being destroyed. what he ought to do is say, there is a majority in the house of representatives for this bill, it will be made up of about half my republican caucus and almost all the democrats. and i going to vote for the house of representatives, vote and not just a majority of the majority, but his determination to save his jobs, losing a war, and his job is not that important. he's not that important. and i don't think we should allow him to villainize

as marjorie taylor greene when he is the main protagonist in the most shameful episode in american foreign policy in two generations >> absolutely a crave. but david, on that for me, there's another, there's another story that's connected to this that has nothing to do with marjorie taylor greene, per say, but it is the fact that robert f. kennedy juniors campaign lead can campaign person in new york says they want a contingent election. they're not in it to win it. they want to throw it to the house of representatives . and that's what we want. that's who we want to elect the president of the united states a dysfunctional house of representatives. i think that that's a big story that people need to pay attention to, that a vote for robert f. kennedy could put the vote for your, your vote for president united states, where they dysfunctional house of representing. >> that's a very interesting angle on the rfk story that we have not yet covered here, that i will make sure that we do continue to cover. sure. michael to david's point about ukraine. i mean, it does seem like the house speaker has an

incredible well opportunity to be a savior for the west in many ways is how potentially you think about it if you want to be a big figure on the world stage, that's not necessarily how you do it. >> most americans today that point actually supports supporting ukraine. they understand that russia is a villain that we have to defeat by any means necessary. >> i agree with david. take devote this idea of allowing one person to take the entire conference, the entire body hostage because of whatever ludicrous grievance they have is absurd to me, and i respect mike johnson. i know him personally, but he needs to take his tough stance. say, i am the speaker if you don't like it, bring your ridiculous vote, and i'll do what i have to do to try to keep my job, senator, what what does the white house think of johnson? >> oh, look, i wouldn't pretend to to try to speak for the white house. >> what are folks that you talked to in this town? what do they view as his strengths and weaknesses? >> i think the strength is that he is the speaker of the house. but his weaknesses is that he doesn't know how to use the

power. bi is there and does not have a clue about how to use that gavel. and i think i think democrats are always hold up nancy pelosi as the standard for someone who understood the politics, who understood that the gavel, who understood how to use the speakership to do the right thing? all right, at least what she perceived not everybody agreed with her, but she didn't think she moved things forward and mike johnson seems paralyzed completely out of his league when it comes to trying to exercise the gavel of the speaker of the house of representatives. >> table got 30 seconds in the show. you agree? >> yeah. go to hakeem jeffries and say from time to time i'm going to need 25 votes i don't not on policy issues by the need 0205 votes. there must be something you want from me >> must be something you wouldn't go. >> fair enough. all right thank you all very much for great conversation today. really appreciate having you here at the table. i thank all of you for joining us would have wonderful story about arrest can you dog and taiwan, maybe we'll bring you that one