generating skepticism, his positions are ever shipped i didn't write on this, so it's a little bit hard to follow it. it >> as day-to-day, it comes as johnson is grappling with another major dispute, dividing his conference renewing an expiring law that gives the fbi the power to conduct warrantless surveillance. still, johnson could hang on. >> given >> many are skeptical about greene's effort, the last it's time i pulled the trigger on a motion to vacate, i could make a true promise to the country that we would not end up with a democrat speaker of the house. and i fulfilled that promise. and i'm not certain that i could do it again >> now, john merger tell green told me that she declined to meet with speaker johnson on friday since she wanted to speak with their constituents first, she said that she would meet with them this week. she did also wolf speak to donald trump earlier this day, but she declined to comment about whether trump is supporting her effort, but he suggested he is not dissuading her at this time.

>> the amount of raja reporting for us bondo. thanks very much into our viewers. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now outfront >> next, breaking news is trump stares down five days until his first criminal trial in new york. a judge and yet another criminal trial, the classified documents case, just issuing a separate ruling. this time siding with the special counsel, jack smith, and the unbelievable 180 beside the republican party, the gop running as fast as they can away from a major port ruling today that bans nearly every abortion. the state of arizona so why are they so afraid of that? isn't that what they said they wanted >> and a cnn >> investigation this hour into one of the single deadliest events in gaza tonight, casting major doubt on israel's

official version. of the events. >> let's go out from >> and good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, five days until trump's criminal trial begins in new york, trump denied at every turn tonight as he tries to stall that case, just moments ago, another key decision coming out in a separate trump trial el as well. this in just the past hour, a ruling in trump's mar-a-lago classified documents case, who gave jack smith a partial when signing with his request to withhold real names of witnesses in court documents, but there are many bots here, but one of them in particular is huge judge cannon still has not announced to trial date for that classified data documents, case coming under intense criticism that she's doing exactly what trump wants in delaying the case. now, we're to have one that breaking ruling in just a moment. polaroids breaking some

more details here at this moment. but again, this is a result of a last-minute hearing for trump in new york today, a very terse rejection today, trump's legal team, arguing two gills court judge, that his hush money case should be delayed while the former president challenges a gag order. the decision though was swift moments after the hearing ended, the judge and these tutors pages rejecting trump's argument and at the very end, lots of lines you could have put for your reasoning and she only needed two. this application for an interim stay of the proceedings pending resolution of the article 78 proceeding is denied. justice cynthia kim then signing merrily with her initials here, cs k. cynthia current, i'm sorry. >> so >> as of tonight, trump's first criminal trial with 34 counts is full steam had to begin on monday. trump will become the first us president to fail his four criminal prosecution. and

the jury pool in manhattan is already set for this jury selection will begin on monday, and everyone who is scheduled to show up on monday has known they're showing up on monday. so they know who they are. paula reid is out front and paula, the new york case, about to make history tonight. even as judge cannon and florida but a again, refuses to set a trial date >> yeah. here are cannon did at least aside one of the key issues that is created really a log jam in this case. and that is whether to reveal the names of witnesses. now, she said for now, those names will remain secret, but this has caused a lot of tension between the special counsel's it's office and judge cannon after cannon pushed for more transparency and said she was going to reveal more information in this case. but tonight, she conceded that the special counsel is right. if she were to reveal the names of these witnesses

are and we've reported some of these witnesses are low level employees at trump's club that could potentially please subject them to risk and harassment. now, cannon, she's been under a lot of scrutiny for her approach to this case. >> she's >> still has over a dozen motions outstanding. and as you noted, the biggest decision she hasn't made is where to put this case on the calendar. we were in court with her well over a month ago. to your arguments on that issue, and she's still has not set a date. there are and i get a lot of questions amid this tension, the scrutiny about whether the special counsel will move to try to get cannon removed from this case. now, there's no indication in their filings that they're going to do that at this point. but if they were that's difficult, that's a high bar. they would need a record of mistakes or missteps. and right now, her record is pretty thin, but you can bet is

legal team fell apart and he got a call for a rescheduling, but that wouldn't happen. his legal team is in place for him across multiple cases. so there's there's he's stuck with them. they're stuck with him and he stuck with this trial. >> sarah, what do you think >> i agree. i mean, he's done everything he can do here to try to delay this and it's just not going to happen. i think we're going forward on one day, whether he likes it or not. >> i mean, it is i said it will be history-making. i mean, that that is the first time a former us president is facing criminal prosecution. >> robert on monday. of course a judge said, you can't you can't delay the trial. you've got this jury pool, though, already set, >> right? already set. >> they're gonna show up. >> they know who they are. we've gone through that. they've got a long questionnaire with 42 questions that they're going to be asking each and every potential juror. so how does the process start from here? here >> yeah, aaron, thank you so much for having me on the show. so first we'll see if trump has any more continuance is up

his sleeve. him and his team will say, because i won't believe it till monday comes. >> so >> what's going to happen is the judge is going to call those jersey and he's going to put them in panels are groups as i understand, it's somewhere around 500 jurors that he summoned and what he's gonna do, what it's fascinating, aaron, what he's doing. he's going to have, he's going to talk to the jurors and basically say to them, look here's how long here's all the trial is going to last just because you might have childcare issues work issues that in and of itself is not going to be enough. so i want to know two things. do you have an opinion about the case and you have a hardship, you have an opinion that's so strong that you can't be a fair and impartial juror. and what the judge is going to do is literally have the panel members raise their hand up to see if either they have a strong opinion or they have a hardship. he's going to literally, literally align the jurors up, have them come up and talk one at a time and tell the judge what their hardship

is or what their why they can't be a fair and impartial juror. it's going to be a fascinating process. i mean, >> it is fascinating to imagine 500 people sort of parading through there. so i mean, the way the system is supposed to work is that all of us citizens as jurors are supposed to answer those questions >> honestly >> and this is your your duty as a citizen do you think that that is reasonable to expect that people are going to say i have a strong opinion or i mean, among the question since we're checking where you get the newest checking what podcasts you listened to check and what books you've read >> yeah. i mean, looking at those questions, i think they're really fairly designed to flesh out what people's views are and whether they have biases or preconceived notions. you would hope that people on answer them honestly, but there may be people bull who very much want to serve on the jury, and there may be people who very much don't want to serve on the jury, and they may adjust their answers accordingly, right we understand that happens ryan at the same time and i think this

is very important, so and i know robert said, i'll believe it when i see it right. it gets to get to the finish line. but if this starts on monday as it seems now in this five-day count down that it will at the same time, a three-judge panel, if i'm correct. right. will be listening to trump's appeal on on a gag order in the case, which could potentially affect the timing the trial itself >> how >> does that happen that these two things are going at the same time, parallel paths think the important thing to think about is that trump's argument for why he should not be gagged and what he says about witnesses and the like is he saying i have a first amendment right to speak my mind to the public and i'm campaigning. he's not saying i get to say this because i want to influence the jurors. so that's why you can have them on two separate tracks. get the jury started, get the trial started to have that happen, and then yes, it's actually important to have a briefing and everything occur very quickly on the gag order in order to potentially release him or not for what he wants to say publicly, but it's not about what he wants to say

directed at the court or at the jurors at the trial that's why these two things can happen at the same time. >> and robert, do you think expect anyone and the these 500 i mean, they're gonna be some people i would presume because it's always the case in new york are going to say that they're not aware of the case, but the majority of them one would think would be well aware of at least some of the details on this yeah >> absolutely. >> you'd have to be living under >> a rock, not to have heard about this case. the hush money case, or the stormy daniels case, everybody would have heard of it and the vast majority. but here's the issue. can you take whatever opinions that you have about the case or former president trump and set those aside and decide this case based on the testimony, the evidence, and the law. and if the juror said yes, they're gonna be on the jury panel, at least the panel, if not the actual juror, jury. and if they say no, the judge she's going to cut them loose because the process he set up, aaron, it's designed to ferret out the vast

majority of people that either have a legitimate hardship or just can't be fair and impartial. so he's going to win that group of 500 down to maybe 100 and that's, that's the group that's going to be answering the 42 questions. >> it's going to really answer discussions. it is amazing and i think for people to realize, what happens in manhattan if 500 people are going to show up. nampa situation, of course, the vast majority of locations a country so ryan, the other thing, paula reid breaking the news on judge cannon. so several parts to the rolling one. okay. the names are going to be redacted of the witnesses in the actual documents. but trump is still allowed to post things about these people or things they've said, and she still refuses a court date what do you take away from that today? >> so think she did the most important thing which is to protect the identity of the witnesses so that the public at large would have a harder time trying to target them, who they are exactly. and it dovetailed let's with what's happening in new york that the gag order is in place because as the judge judgments sean said

otherwise, what trump has done with his statements to identifying people specifically is create an atmosphere of intimidation so that's at least what she has done today. tonight, is essentially try to protect some of the witnesses from that atmosphere of intimidation and it could have been awful if she had decided at any other direction, just imagine some of these witnesses dropping out that could have been easy result, right? all right. but thank you. all three very much >> and >> next, the major supreme court ruling from the state of arizona upholding un 18 64 law, bringing a whole new meaning to precedent, which bans nearly every abortion in the state. it is a law that republicans like kari lake were once huge fans out i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the book >> while she's not so thrilled tonight, wait to hear what she's saying, but she doesn't want to lose are senate race he's not the only one running far, far away. plus president biden offering one of his sharpest rebukes yet of netanyahu as a cnn

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litmus test for the entire republican party issues, abortion. and republicans are now tripping over themselves after the arizona supreme court rolled abortion rights back to 18, 60 for upholding a 160 year-old abortion ban. >> it >> outlaws nearly all abortions in the state unless necessary to save the mother's life that means rape, incest, all that not included, just the mother's life. the law actually sends abortion providers up to prison, to prison for up to five years. now that is one of the toughest laws in the country. and now some republicans who have claimed to be against abortion rights are doing all they can to distance themselves from today's decision. so let's just start at ground zero on this one in arizona with kari lake who is running for arizona's open senate seat. today, she released a statement which reads, and i quote i oppose today's ruling and i am calling on katie hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution that arizonans can support that would be fine if

she just was breaking her silence on this issue. you might say, oh, who'd ever heard of a law from 18 64 will kari lake had and in fact, she had ardently supported this very law from 18 in 64. here she is talking about it two years ago >> we have a great law on the books right now. i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe it's arf 13, so it will prohibit abortion in arizona. accepted save the life of a mother. and i think we're going to be setting the paving the way and setting course for other states to follow so she didn't even just say, oh, i support this law in the book. she exactly said what the law did write, that only in the life of the mother. that's the 18, 64 long she made it very clear she knew what it was and she supported it lakes flip-flopping because she knows that arizona is not paving the way when it comes to the way the voters want. and arizona's

civil war era law incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books. i believe kansas, kentucky, montana have all gone to the polls to protect access to abortion. you had that state, that state legislative seats wanted alabama by marilyn lands. you are seeing it across this country. kayla tausche is out front, live outside the white house to begin our coverage of this tonight. and halo the white house tonight. ready to fight on this issue? they believe that this is key to biden's reelection. how much are the republican flip-flopping attempts though >> complicated? hitting things for biden in that >> well, aaron, there's still republicans who are flip-flopping in the other direction, swing state republican candidates who have been a little bit more circumspect on the issue and now are siding with the policy

position that president trump, the former president, has laid out this week, we're, he has said to let the states decide it's that position that in conversations tonight, senior white house officials, senior biden campaign officials say is going to be the galvanizing issue for voters and it's going to help them establish a very clear contrast between what their candidate will do and what former president trump is outlining one campaign official described it to me as a state level dobbs referring of course, to the case in 2022 that helped the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, sparking protests across the country and giving democrats a strong showing in the 2022 midterms. and campaign officials site polling in arizona that show that 62% of arizonans believed that abortion should be legal in all or most cases. but the challenge for biden in that state is going to be how many other issues voters will have to consider. their take with the wall street journal found just last month when it pulled voters across swing states, including in arizona, abortion was actually the only issue where biden bested trump trump. you'll see in other cases, like on the economy, immigration and fitness for office, president trump was

about 20 points higher than president biden. even so they're going full court press on this issue alone. vice president harris will be in tucson later this week. there. are gonna be many more surrogates visiting arizona and other swing states to talk about this. >> all right, kayla, thank you very much. let's bring in cnn political commentator and the host of pbs firing line, margaret hoover. >> okay so it's. amazing to look at how arizonans view the issue of abortion is kayla lays out those polls. no surprise then that kari lake's running away from it. maybe the surprise is how much she knew about it that she had a down accurately and she so stridently supported it before, you know, it bears repeating as you've said, this is a civil war era law that was on the books and arrows no, not 18, 64 arizona wasn't even a state, aaron, when this law was on the books. so the supreme court in arizona has just ignore a 2022 ban on abortion that was 15 weeks in favor of a territorial

law there wasn't even on the books and it was argued and this is the key and this is why kari lake took this position. she was running for governor in 2022 and she was defending an argument from a far-right extremist group called the alliance, defending freedom. >> this is a >> deeply conservative, litigious group. they argue that there they are doing the thing they accuse others of. this is lawfare using socially conservative ideology to fuel their arguments and this group, the alliance defending freedom, is responsible for the most onerous anti-lgbt laws and anti-trans laws that are being passed in state legislatures across the country. they are responsible for the argument the state supreme court in arizona accepted. >> so she is i guess, and then she had felt like she had to pander to them or to be on their side. galvanizing that narrow niche of support in order to try to get her over the finish line for her gubernatorial race. now she's

running away from it because guess what actually? arizona republicans in a statewide race, arizona republicans remember, think barry goldwater, barry goldwater, who may have been sort of this pillar in the conservative movement, but arizona conservatives are libertarians on social issues and they always have been, it was barry goldwater's family who actually helped establish the first planned parenthood in arizona wow, this is not a state that is going to want the government to impede your personal liberty. it is >> amazing to see whether she'll be able to get away with such a direct flip-flop though. i mean, they don't they don't always come as clear as this one. i have spoken >> to stay elected in the last hour republican state electrodes they believed that this will absolutely flip the legislature. this will absolutely impact the presidential election. this has republicans now on their back feet. there is no way donald trump is going to carry the state. >> well, trump said trump has said that he put it to the states yeah. well, but put it to the states. that's what you get an arizona while how's it

going? it's not going to go so well for him in arizona and truly this is actually they said 65% of arizonans are in favor of this. i mean, this is the most draconian law. now, we have in all the states and all the books no exceptions for rape, no exceptions for incest only in the case of the death of the mother this is truly i mean, this is a civil war era 19th century law. now on the books in 2024, pretty, pretty incredible. >> all right, margaret, thank you very much. and outfront next cnn investigates one of the biggest mass casualties events of the gaza war what cnn uncovered is raising questions about officials, israel's official timeline of events. plus republican marjorie taylor greene dialing up the pressure to oust speaker mike johnson. but if trump told her to back down would she will. you're going to hear because manu raju just asked her in a one-on-one interview so i can take all these trips because priceline has all these amazing deals and that's when i said deal on your right is our jenny deal

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mistake. i don't agree with his i think it's outrageous that those 433 vehicles were hit by drones and taken out >> this comes as cnn investigates another fatal incident involving the israeli defense forces. >> this >> one, the single deadliest mass casualty into one of the single deadliest cash casualty events in gaza. cnn's report tonight cast serious doubt on the official israeli version of events that happened on that day. i want to note earlier, i said the investigation was about the world central kitchen incident. i want to make it clear that this report is about a separate incident and occurred on february 29, more than 100 people were killed, warning that some of the images that you are about to see in this investigation are graphic. katie polglase is out front >> it's early morning on february 29 on al rashid road in northern gaza. thousands of starving people have gathered here to receive food but as the

aid trucks arrive, this happens the night would become known as the flour massacre by morning over 100 would be dead in one of the single biggest mass casualty events of this conflict cnn this incident, obtaining never seen before videos of that night, collecting evidence from 22 eyewitnesses and tracing the aid itself all the way to a muslim charity in the uk uk it was the idf that was then responsible for safely delivering these vital supplies >> but we >> found the opened fire on unarmed starving palestinians at close range as the aid arrived they're. explanation for the tragedy using this drone video was the stampede that causes soldiers to fire warning shots in the air. they later admitted to firing some shots directly. its so-called suspects who approached them by the idf footage is incomplete. it cuts between crowds

surrounding the trucks and bodies lying on the ground. even this feels they were firing in a densely packed area likely to cause severe bloodshed cnn requested the full footage from the idf, but it was denied jihad abu watfa was amongst the starving palestinians and started filming as the trucks crossed into northern gaza >> hello non-white was telling them out of manhattan luck from the base >> this timeline saying the trucks arrived at the checkpoint at 4:00 a.m. leaving crossed at 4:29. and only after that did the idf fire shots that the crowd yeah. but in billows video filmed seven minutes earlier, 4:22 a.m.

gunshots ring out he warns there was a tank the idf claimed the convoy was still stationary at the checkpoint at this time next jihad begins filming. it's now for 20, 8:00 a.m. and there's a barrage of gunfire from the shots are close analysis by weapons experts of the births indicate heavy automatic gunfire at 600 rounds per minute. jihad keeps filming nothing to learn more households. a tank is beside me when now under siege, he says, moments later you see a truck driving along the road. we spotted traces from the gunfire here one can be seen ricocheting up here according to weapons experts dan chill >> i was often in the bath one

site hey, broke the number of dead and injured that >> emerged was staggering interviews with survivors at hospitals afterwards, found some people had been shot in the upper body when did this amidst the devastation, cnn found a clue as to who had delivered this aid, this box with the writing on my welfare trust, this was the first time that the aid had regional than gaza and we were very, very excited and happy that finally we have gone i'm through. >> they received the terrible news as to what had happened via whatsapp or walk up to some photos with cardboard boxes of our logo, my welfare first with bloodstains on them. and it came as a shock. this is the first time in 20 years where i've actually seen blood being mixed with aid in all. >> at least 118 died that day with the un struggling to access northern gaza, the idf

are responsible for ensuring aid arrives safely. despite this, the un has documented two dozen attacks on palestinians awaiting aid in the last three months alone >> for >> those like jihad living on the verge of famine, it has led to a desperate fight for survival >> hey, i'm done. man-made. >> and >> i could tell you a lot todd? >> bost for that full unedited drone footage. but those requests have been denied. and really this investigation is calling into question the idf's ability to safely deliver distribute aid when it's clearly most desperately needed. >> aaron. >> kelly thank you very much. again, for another outstanding report in vet katie and her investigative team. i want to go now to the democratic

senator chris of delaware, member of the foreign relations committee. senator, i appreciate your time after the world central kitchen airstrike, you had said conditions may need to be put on us aid to israel now you've been able to see the cnn investigation. i know you just saw it here for the first time yourself, but it contradicts the idf's official account of how at least 118 people were killed after they lined up for food aid in gaza shows that the gunfire started at least seven minutes earlier than the idf actually said heavy automatic gunfire and calling into question their full account. what's your reactions sender >> they're in what's clear both from the reporting. i just saw on cnn and from dozens of previous incidents. is that far too many? i'm civilians have died in the six months of this conflict against hamas. and far too many aid workers have died nearly 200 of the world central kitchen incident riveted the attention of many here in congress because jose andres is known to many of us but

frankly, many other incidents like the one you were just dying documenting in which more than 100 died. also have shown that the chaos in gaza of the civilian deaths in gaza and the difficulty delivering humanitarian aid has gotten to a point where there needs to be changes made in the last few days, more aid trucks have gotten into gaza than at any point in six months. i think more than 400 today. and the netanyahu government has announced an intention to open the erez gate in the north which if that's done could make a significant impact on the hunger bordering on famine in the north of gaza, as well as the ashdod port. and a route through i'm shalom, four trucks from jordan this is long overdue and i think it's time for us to see some significant changes like this. >> senator to the, extent that this report calls into question, though the official aversion, a very specific timeline that had been put out by the idf. it just raises a

crucial question for you and your colleagues, but you and in dealing with israeli officials, do you trust what the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says, right now? >> well luck, it's been an important, but a challenging relationship. the united states and israel are close and longstanding allies. we are committed to defending israel against any attack by iran. and it's important to remember how this entire six month long conflict began with the horrifying terrorist attack by hamas. i've met with prime minister netanyahu many times and i raised with him in person six weeks ago when i last met with them the urgency of addressing deconfliction, the number of folks who were being killed in an attempt to deliver aid that deconfliction clearly did not get fixed. so clearly there is more work to be done and no. and your fellow democratic senator elizabeth warren, she was asked if she thought israel was committing genocide in gaza. she answered

and i quote, or if you wanna do it as an application of law, i believe they'll find that it is genocide. and they have ample evidence to do so that they she's referring to is international courts. she's talking about a court of law >> but >> when you talk about, you've had conversations with netanyahu and then clearly things still need to be addressed. it was i believe how you still put it? >> do you agree with her, is this genocide >> i don't think that's a legal conclusion that i can or should reach tonight. but i think president biden and many of us in the senate have been pressing for changes in policy and practice. we've been clear that a large-scale attack on rafah even though there are still hamas battalions, there is not justified without providing for civilians to move out of the way. and that there has to be a change in terms of the humanitarian relief that's getting into israel. i'm wearing a small note that says 1806 on it. as a reminder that there are still hostages being held by hamas underneath gaza.

i met with a hostage family earlier today with hirsch goldberg, poland's mother, rachel and my hope is that we are seeing progress in the negotiations in cairo that hamas will accept the latest offer from israel and we will see both a hostage release and a ceasefire center cones. thank you very much. i appreciate it >> thank you very. >> next, marjorie taylor greene ramping up per threat to oust the speaker, mike johnson tonight is trump's supporting her crusade. you're going to hear the details of what she's telling are manu raju, he spoke to her. he's gonna said with you. and lesko cannot keep gold bars yes, they have real bars made of gold. what else? they've got everything costco, they can't keep them in stock. >> so >> should you be buying them? it's a big question here. suzi orman is outfront next while 100% free with turbotax free

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be the one to oust the speaker here it only takes one, she's been saying she's going to do it. and you had a chance to talk to her about that and whether trump its supporting our efforts. what did she tell you >> she made clear that she is not backing off. she would not detail exactly what would trigger this vote the call that you could call it any moment really, to seek mike johnson's ouster, but she did warn him not to move forward with ukraine aid package, just as mike johnson is at the moment trying to cobble together a ukraine aid package. she told me that did not speak with johnson on friday, even as they would plan to speak because she declined to do so saying that you needed to speak to her constituents let's first and she plans to speak with them this week if he's willing to do so. but aaron he she did speak to donald trump earlier today and i asked her whether or not trump is supporting her effort. >> well i absolutely loved president trump. i have a great relationship with him. i talked to him earlier today. >> i won't

>> speak for president trump and i don't think this is is really a problem. >> you don't think you do you think he'll way in one way or the other? is he dissuading you? >> i will never speak for president trump about you well or do he is the leader of our party? and i always leave that up to him respectfully. but but i think president trump is far more focused on winning this campaign to become president of the united states in 2025 i definitely don't think he wants a republican speaker of the house that will fund the department of justice. that's trying to put him in jail for the rest of his life. >> if he calls you and said marjorie backoff, would you listen to >> he hasn't called me and said that yet. so again, i don't speak for president trump that's totally at the him to weigh in if he wanted to. i think he's focused on his election and he should be >> but there are still a lot of questions about how exactly this would play out, not just the timing, but where the votes will be. i spend a lot of time today talking to republicans,

many of them either noncommittal are just flat out opposed for this effort and will democrats come to speaker johnson's defense if he moves forward on ukraine aid, that is something that democratic leader hakeem jeffries won't weigh in on tonight >> and obviously at the heart of all of this manu thank you very much. at the heart of it, the election and americans deep fears about the economy. and that brings us to what really is a new gold rush in america people regular americans, not just investors, big investors are big banks are rushing to buy actual gold, physical gold amid inflation concerns. >> look at costco. >> costco is only started selling gold bars last dear for proof. okay, so this is the situation they start selling. we are go and wells fargo is now estimated that costco is now selling up to 200 million a month. and gold bars now i just want to it sounds enormous. it is by comparison, costco sold $100 million in gold bars for the entire quarter that ended last november. so when entire quarter 100 million and now

running at 200 million a month bank of america now projecting that the price of an ounce of gold budget seven straight record highs neatly will hit $3,000 by the end of the year for now, suzi orman, one of the world's best-known personal finance advisors and the founder of secure, save. and the host of the women and money podcast. >> soucie, >> i lay all this out because it comes from a place of a lot of very real fears of inflation and prices going up and feeling like your money doesn't go as far and people are rushing into gold. are you shocked when you hear things like this? $100 first of all, they weren't even selling them a year ago. then they sell them one-quarter hundred million dollars whereas now they're running a $200 million a month and gold bars. is that something anybody should be fine >> well, here's the thing. aaron is that people always have this herd mentality and this fear of missing out to happen with bitcoin. bitcoin is going up. it's going up, it's going up. all i have to buy it.

oh, goal. >> never even thought it about gold before. now here you're in pascal and people are in line and they're running out of it and they're only let people byd five apiece and all of a sudden this, this frenzy starts and everybody wants to be a part of it, especially when they see the price going up and the price has gone up 13% so far this year, what? but they are not thinking about, however is that it's one thing to buy gold and get a physical bar it's another thing to have to sell it. and that is not what they are thinking about you have to have it surveyed all these things. where do you go? where do you keep it? is it ensured is is it not? and so there's a lot of things that i think people really need to think about when you're buying physical gold less. and if you want to be invested in gold, you can do it through an etf. you can do it many ways. but to buy the actual commodity, i'm not sure is something that

people should be doing which is a crucial point. the point you make of if you do believe that, that gold is a good thing to buy as a sort of a hedge against inflation, that there are other ways to do it, as you mentioned, exchange traded funds and other ways do you susie right now, have fears about where inflation is going though. those fears that clearly is where a lot of americans are getting this anxiety from i do have fair about it, but for different reasons than before. now, i'm afraid because commodities are going up, not just gold. look at the price of oil, oils at, at $89, right in there, depending if it's wti or brent. and is oil goes up, what else? happens? the price of gasoline starts to go up. so people start to feel it every single day as they're filling up their tanks, then everybody starts to talk about it again and also the news is saying,

what's going to happen tomorrow with the cpi is inflation going to go up? is it >> then? you see people getting coming out of stocks, possibly going to bads and vice versa i think everybody needs to just come down i think they need to see really where is it at and not be investing according to inflation. air and they need to be investing according to what's going on in there individual lives are they older and do they need fixed income? so should they be buying a 20 or 30 year treasury bond and locking it up? or are they younger and should they be in the stock market? so i think everybody is just freaking out right now, but i don't think we need to be freaking out as much as they are. >> everyone is freaking out. i mean, that's the reality. i think it's more macro than even the economy, right? it's sort of a soul searching moment of great anxiety when you talk about politics and democracy and what's at stake. and then the economy the context here,

you've got to zillow analysis. i know you were looking at this susie 550 cities in the united states where the tip typical value of a home is 1 million or more at the same time as a new cnbc survey, they you lead found that 65% of americans are living paycheck to paycheck and say that they only have what, $400 of emergency money credit card debt is surging? >> yeah. wonder dollars, urine of emergency money. >> so >> you have two sectors really going on, which are the rich people are getting richer and richer. they have the money to be investing in stock in ai taking advantage of everything, want to know what's really sad is 20 he 5% of the real estate that people could have bought themselves were bought by investors. people who wanted to make money. the big people, which left little are inventories for those people who just wanted to buy a home. so it's getting really

difficult, not just because of interest rates and mortgages, but because of insurance and everything. but there's always help out there and there's always a way to find your way to that pot of gold. >> all right, well, you know what susie i like talking to you because when i feel anxiety about all of these things and i think everybody watching does. like i said, i don't an existential deep level at is good to be confronted with you're always optimism, so thank you so much. good to talk to you next, the mother and father of the teenage gunman who shot and killed four students in michigan, have now been sentenced as of tonight. we've an update for you the full details and the 33 year-old woman from los angeles who is being held in a russian prison tonight for boyfriend has just received new information from her he's going to tell us what it is >> my favorite >> this one is this going to be ready? the baby from design and >> products do removal and installation rebound this with

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call 187786 68555 anderson cooper 360. >> next on cnn the maximum sentence for the parents of school shooter ethan crumbley. uh, judges ruled that james and jennifer crumbley will spend ten to 15 years in prison. the parents were convicted of involuntary manslaughter after their son shot and killed four of his classmates the judge's ruling coming after heartbreaking impact statements from the families of the victims whitney wild is out front >> it is the sense of this court must crumbley that you serve ten to 15 years. james crumbley is a sense of this court that you serve ten to 15 years with the michigan department of corrections ten

to 15 years. that's how long the parents of the teenager who shot and killed four students in 2021 at an oxford michigan gifted him, re stenced to hey spd behind bars both convicted of involuntary manslaughter in sepate trials. it's the first time a parent of a mass shooter has been held criminally responsible. >> this tragedy has taken i tried a toll on our family. >> emotions ran high as parents and family members of tate, mirror hana st. juliana, madison baldwin, and justin shilling spoke directly to the crumbleys about their loved ones who were killed in the november 2021 shooting when you texted ethan, don't do it was texting madison. i love you. please call me. >> you have failed your son and you have failed us all this failure had deadly consequences that can never be undone, that can never be made right >> your mistakes created our

everlasting nightmare are ten narrow little brother had to learn how to write a eulogy for a sister. for heav'n, learn how to write essays the crumbleys son pleaded guilty to 24 charges, including first-degree murder. he was sentenced to life without parole and well, jennifer crumbley apologized in court. she continued to place blame on the school. >> now, only where you left in the dark about previous concerning behavior but in the counselor's office that morning, none of those previous issues were brought to our attention. >> and james crumbley, who did not take the stand during his trial, apologizing for the first time. >> i am sorry for your loss as a result of what my son did i cannot express how much i wish that i hadn't done what was going on with him or what was going to happen. >> but the judge said these convictions were not about poor parenting

>> these convictions confirm repeated acts or lack of x there could have halted an oncoming runaway train opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder. and was ignored nolan's no one and these two people should have insured, didn't the prosecutor in this case said it's disappointing that the >> crumbleys didn't express remorse throughout the trial as for where these this family will serve their sentences, james and ethan crumbley will not serve their sentences in the same facility instead, aaron, each member of this family will serve out their time in a separate file. aaron >> thank you very much. from chicago tonight before we go and outfront update, we've been closely following the story of cosine of karelina, a 33 year-old dual us-russian citizen from los angeles. she's being held tonight in russian prison she was arrested while visiting her parents and charged with treason for allegedly donating $51 to a

ukrainian charity a judge now ordering her to remain bar behind bars for an additional three months, at least. but karelina has been able to exchange letters with her boyfriend here in the since her arrest. and tonight he is giving us the very latest on her life in prison. and what she is enduring they get to shower once a week >> that >> breaks me she has no hot water. the hardest thing for us to fall asleep because they refused to put the lights off. i can tell you this from the lettuce and stuff. she's scared she is scared and alone. >> one >> thing that gives chris hope he says is the cosine. it doesn't actually have to wear a prison uniform and thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate your being with us. it's time now for a 60