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chicago killing dexter read police weapons fired 96 times and just 41 seconds. what does the body camera footage of this tragic case show? will show you welcome to the lean i'm jake tapper and we start with big news and our health lead early access to abortion and arizona has been effectively wiped out. today, the state supreme court upheld the law from the 1800s, which bans abortion in all cases, including rape, including incest except when it's necessary to save a person's life. in addition, the civil war era law punishes providers who perform abortion procedures with two to five years in prison. this is all a direct result of the us supreme court eliminating the constitutional right to abortion nearly two years ago when the court overturned roe v. wade with its decision in dobbs versus as jackson women's health organization, the word dobbs in fact, appears 22 times in the arizona supreme court's 47 page opinion. now,

the law they refer to dates back to 18, 64 a time in our nation's history when women in the united states were not allowed to vote, women in some states, we're not alone to own property arizona itself was not even a state until 19 12th. and while there is a temporary hold on, this arizona decision, women in arizona are now living in complete uncertainty according to democratic governor katie hobbs, who just spoke after the ruling this afternoon. >> it is a dark day in arizona. >> we are 14 >> days away from this extreme band coming back to life it must be repealed immediately. >> now democrats including governor hobbes say this will energize and motivate voters come november already, abortion rights activists are saying they have enough signatures to add abortion to the 2024 ballot in hope of enshrining the right to abortion in arizona's constitution. arizona, of course, is a swing state that president biden flipped blue in 2020 but just over 10,000

votes. it's also sure to affect the consequential race for arizona's pending lee empty senate seat. cnn's natasha can is following all of this closely. so natasha, how was the arizona supreme court able to resurrect this law? kind of an ancient log. >> and >> especially with, given the fact that in 2020 republican governor do see who was the governor then he signed a law that banned abortion after 15 weeks. why why is that not now, the law of the land you can imagine that and that's why this court was supposed to quote, harmonize these two seemingly different laws here why that is based on the court's logic today. in 2022, when that 15 week ban was passed, that was contingent on roe versus wade and without roe versus wade, since it's been overturned, now, the state of arizona and federal law, there's no independent right

to access an abortion that would serve as the basis for that 15 week ban. so it's the court's logic that the older law dating back to 18, 64, as you said was technically always on the books, except on hiatus while roe versus wade was in effect for about 49 years and so when roe versus wade was overturned, the court's logic is that, that older law is now back in effect so you can imagine this is highly confusing. this is not the only state that's dealt with a lot of these similar types of issues. you can see there on the map, how many states in orange there have banned or severely restricted abortion? nearly all abortion is banned in arizona where you see the star there that's been because this ruling it will not be enforced for 14 days. that gives the parties some time. here are the opportunity to raise additional issues at a lower court if they want to

now, no one who provided an abortion prior to this ruling will be subject to the penalty, which is between two to five years. in prison for the abortion provider but at the same time, this is super confusing for a lot of people planned parenthood saying that they are going to continue abiding by that 15 week ban for a short period of time, jake, but just to be clear, if this law does stand a doctor who performs an abortion gen. on. let's say, a 14-year-old girl who was raped by her brother. that dr. goes to jail for two to five years. >> if there is no reason that that 14 would have to have her life saved, that that is how the law reads. i should mention that there is a citizen effort right now trying to gathered ballot signatures for an initiative to put on the november ballot, asking voters to enshrine abortion rights in the state's constitution. >> natasha can thanks so much joining us now to discuss senator from arizona democrat

mark kelly, senator first, what's your reaction to the ruling? and for folks who don't live in arizona, can you explain why the arizona supreme court would roll this way? >> well, jake, let me start by saying this is a disaster for women in arizona arizona women deserve the right to make their own decision about abortion and now they can't because the donald trump, so let's be clear about that why did the arizona supreme court do this? it's because dot dobbs, the dobbs decision overturned roe v. wade kate was the law of the land since 1973. and now women have lost a fundamental right in our state. >> let's take a listen. arizona state senator, even birds today right after rolling >> somebody gave me a procedure so that wouldn't have to experience another miscarriage. the pain the mess, the discomfort now we're talking about whether or not we should put that doctor in jail >> abortion rights advocates

say that they have the signatures to try and enshrining the right into arizona's constitution, but that wouldn't happen until november and it wouldn't happen unless it passes let's assume that they're successful in november. what happens for women and girls and abortion providers in arizona from april until november >> well, i think what happens is what's going to happen in 14 days, which means their lives our little are literally at risk. i mean, there will be women in arizona that could die because of this room ruling by the supreme court. let's be clear about this. this is what the former prime president wanted. he ended roe v. wade as we knew it as it's existed for decades. and put women across the country in a really terrible position. i've got a daughter and grandson daughter in arizona i'd never thought i would see this happen. this is a law from 160 years ago, 48 years before arizona was a state and now as the state records presented have said,

we're going to throw doctors into jail in arizona for conducting a procedure that a woman needs. >> so you in addition to just saying it on my show, you said on twitter or acts earlier today, quote, this is the biggest step backward since the repeal of roe v. wade, make no mistake. this is happening because of donald trump. >> do you >> think that this might energize voters to turn out to enshrine it into the constitution, to vote for joe biden to vote for the democratic senate candidate for your open senate seat >> well, i think voters, people in arizona are obviously going to be really upset about this. but what matters the most is the health care of women. and i think they know who is responsible for this. i mean, they may realize that donald trump's specifically put justices under, the supreme court to end roe v. wade, to take away a fundamental right to women. and i think because

of that well, i think women get that also men who support women in this right to make their own decisions. i think they get that to research public, published by the economic policy it's the institute last year suggests that women earn less money and stay in poverty longer when they don't have access to abortion rights is their beyond that fact were are you worried at all about how this might affect your state not because of what i just mentioned, but because of protect perhaps 18-year-old girls not wanting to go to the university of arizona or arizona state in the fall because of this or perhaps businesses that want a boycott, arizona because of this, are you worried at all about that? >> yeah, of course. jake, but i think what a more worried about is what's next. i mean, if donald trump, i don't believe he's going to be reelected, but his, his his neck next

thing on his agenda to take away other rights. i mean, is it to take away the right to contraception from women not having heard a lot of that an arizona yet, but maybe that is the plan of the former president. and others to go after the next right, we see you know, ivf going away in alabama could that be something that occurs in arizona? i mean, this is a enormous step backwards for a women's rights in the state of arizona. and we've got to figure out a way the forward here, a you know, a national right to have this procedure it makes sense. it's something i support i am a co-sponsor legislation to do that but what we could see from the former president and others as a national abortion ban >> he didn't rule it out when he gave his statement yesterday. he didn't rule it out. well, and he also bragged about being responsible for the dobbs decision for this, right.

going away >> and >> bragging that he's responsible for that means that he is responsible for what happened today in the arizona legis in the arizona supreme court >> well, there's certainly nobody more responsible for those three justices being on the court or other than maybe republican leader mitch mcconnell? >> yeah yes, certainly. right. and and this court has been in favor of taking away this rights that this right, they've also talked about other rights like marriage, equality, and contraception, no ruling on that yet. but that could be the next step. >> democratic senator mark kelly of arizona. thanks so much for joining us. appreciate it. this arizona ruling comes just one day after donald trump suggested that a bortion is being currently going to be decided by the states, although it's unclear if he would sign a national ban, if one came across his desk let's discuss more how today's decision and other battles over abortion could play out at the ballot box in november and later,

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mesothelioma call us now in our politics lead donald trump just yesterday said abortion will be left to the states and today in arizona, that means going back >> 160 years for its abortion law, which bans all abortion, except in cases when the life of the mother is at stake. let's talk about this with our panel, brianna. some statistics show that almost one in four women in the united states will have an abortion by the time they reach age 45 before we get to the politics of this all this is a very intense personal decision for women and girls all over the country. but specifically in arizona today, what are you hearing from the medical community in arizona on what? this means for people >> well, i spoke to the medical director for planned parenthood in arizona today and she said that already they have patients who are getting abortion care and they're wondering if they're able to get it already. now this is gonna be two weeks before this goes into effect, but they're people are

incredibly concerned and those are just the ones who are looking for care here immediately. so that doesn't even speak to the folks who might be looking for it. obviously farther out and to be clear, this will go into effect in two weeks. the medical director said there'll be providing abortions to the last day that they can. >> but after that, >> they're not going to even though the attorney general and arizona making it clear, they're not planning to prosecute providers no one's hanging their hat on that because you have counties that might have different ideas about another going to prosecute and you also, who's the attorney general going to be in the future? they might retroactively prosecute someone who violates this. >> that's interesting, hadn't thought about that. kristen donald trump yesterday was trying to pretend that he had some moderate position on this, even though senator kelly accurately states this is because of donald trump pointing the justices that overturned roe v. wade paving the path to this today. >> does >> this upset politically the trump people, the trump campaign? >> they expected this national abortion ban would do the exact

same thing when i talked to senior advisers about why they landed on the state's after these extensive conversations that trump had had with these social conservatives were really encouraging him tobacco, a national abortion ban. and then these more moderate conservatives who were saying that's a really bad idea politically, the argument of the more moderate conservatives who wanted him to say that this was the state's decision, leave it up to the states. is that no matter what? because donald trump is the modern-day architect of the overturning of roe v. wade. he's going get blamed for all of these individually we'll state actions anyway >> so if he's >> going to get blamed anyway, why not take the less or more popular decision which was deposited to the states or at least help most helpful politically. >> at >> then go to this national abortion ban, which they believe would be more detrimental to him across the country. so obviously republic i can czar concerned about the politics of this. and when you look at the map, eva, let's take a look. we've seen voters since the dobbs decision, since roe v. wade was overturned voters in ohio, california,

michigan, vermont, kansas, kentucky and montana all voted to either in trying or protect abortion rights. and today we saw a president biden immediately blame trump and republicans for what happened in arizona. here's part of the statement, quote. this ruling is a result of the extreme agenda of republican elected officials who are committed to ripping away women's freedom. this is an issue that democrats feel confident they are on the right side of the american people on putnam in terms of popular support for their position that's right, jake, and listen, they are going to continue to lean on this issue to drive turnout what we have seen i covered the kentucky's governor's race last year. is that democrats are really focused on making this a conversation about health care, about personal freedom and then arguing republicans are a threat to both and what they're doing is elevating women's personal stories. they don't have to talk so much about the threat of what's to come. we

have seen in states that already have restrictions in place, women have these really harrowing stories and what democrats are doing. there was a recent house field hearing in florida not too long ago. they're bringing these women out there directly and having them share their own stories and say, this is emblematic of what could happen nationwide. >> let me put that map up again about the recent votes since over every wade was overturned. now you can say, of course california is going to do that, but you don't win in montana, in kansas in kentucky, and ohio, briana, without republicans and independents voting in favor of abortion rights. that's not a groundswell of democrats and kentucky and montana and kansas turning out, yeah, that's exactly right. and that's how you know that this is such a visceral issue. and i think that we saw at the midterms a lot of folks wondering how motivating this was going to be and now it's very clear and it's very clear as we look at

these ballot initiatives, something i do think is interesting though, is how is this going to plan states. i was talking to one democratic lawmaker from your state, pennsylvania. it's commonly said pardon, commonwealth. i know oh, i fell right ago. i'm sorry. sorry sorry. sorry. the point being this lawmaker was saying unless there is some motivating issue like we're seeing in arizona, or unless there is a restrictive abortion policy like there is in wisconsin, it may not motivate democratic voters as much as you might expect we're seeing something pretty amazing. in wisconsin where the senate candidate, eric hovde dee, who is taking on tammy baldwin, is trying to ors really changing his point of view just on friday, said something really interesting that he thinks that women should have the right to make a choice and that they should be able to do it early before a baby can be born healthy okay. well, that's pretty much the law everywhere, right? 20 weeks, 24 weeks.

>> generally, this sort of accepted viability. but that is such a change from where he was before. it's it's pretty stunning, but maybe it's not going to help democrats so much. in pennsylvania, the commonwealth, we've seen, we've seen republic, other republicans come out. surprisingly against what the arizona supreme court did today, including kari lake, who is a rather extreme maga election denying republican, but she put out a statement saying aye, opposed today's ruling. and i'm calling on democratic governor katie hobbs and the state legislature to come come up with an immediate common sense solution that arizonans can support. i have no idea what her personal view on this, but this is a very political statement. >> yeah, it's almost as though she saw this come out and realized that this could cost her the senate race in arizona is expected to be a very tight race and they are pouring a lot of money into it republicans want to win arizona and they do believe there's a sliver of hope they're not. if there is something like this going on in the state, they know how politically toxic something like this can be. we have seen it. i would expect to hear something from former president donald trump, who we have not

heard from yet, that talks about exceptions 90, not actually talking about this particularly in arizona, are talking about how states should have exceptions, how they should be allowing women to have some time here >> they are >> really, as you said changing their tune and trying to come up with a solution. even though again, he was responsible for open responsible for it and has not said that he would not sign an abortion ban nationwide into law. i would he be president? would one come across his desk? thanks, one and all for being here. the first criminal trial against donald property set to start next monday. that is less than one week away. his legal team's latest attempt to delay the case is next houston. you >> are go for the degree in this guy, >> parents husbands and wives gone. >> if you work in spaceflight, this is the worst possible thing. i can never happen >> thousands of pieces of debris are now pieces to a puzzle have that test on day one >> i wish i could've done something differently, but i

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>> in our law and justice lead today, donald trump is just a few days away from his very first criminal trial after losing yet another attempt at a delay. today, that means jury selection is expected to move forward on monday in manhattan and where the former president is accused of waging a hush money scheme involving a payoff to porn star and director stormy daniels ahead of the 2016 election. so as to keep their alleged affair secret, i had of jury selection. cnn has obtained the list of questions that all potential jurors will be asked. and the list includes whether they've ever been to a trump rally where they get their news. if they've ever been a member of an extremist groups such as the proud boys or antifungals. let's get straight to cnn's paula reid, paula is there any other option left for donald trump to delay this case? >> oh, yeah. certainly there are options. look, there's clearly a will and there might be a way. remember this is supposed to be the second week of that criminal trial. none of us saw federal prosecutors

dumping a bunch of evidence that's what caused this trial. so the trial delay, there's only things that we can't foresee we also know it's possible he could try to take this question of presidential immunity, whether the trial judge has denied his efforts to delay the case on that, you could try to take it to the supreme court. i don't know that they'll take it up or that they would be willing to fold it into their arguments in two weeks on a different case, the january 6 case and presidential immunity, but that's an option. there's also more extreme thing thanks. so you could try to do like fire his lawyers. i don't know if the judge would go for it, but if that were to happen, the judge would have to take time to contemplate that because you have the right to the counsel of your choosing. so there are absolutely things he could do to try to delay this. >> so walk us through how this >> jury selection process will work because obviously in all likelihood, we're going to be covering the bejesus out of this on monday, right? >> yes. i'll be outside on the sidewalk because i've been for this case and others. look, this is a daunting task. they need to select 12 people and six alternates to serve on this

historic case. now, they're going to ask people a lot of different questions. you laid out some of them. where do you live? a simple question, though more complicated. where do you get your news? are you a member of an extremist groups? some people may say, wait, why are you asking that? well, we know they also asked that in the e jean carroll case, they'll also ask about you, or anyone, you know, work for the trump organization. how do you feel about trump hadi field? but this case that's part of this effort to whittle down this jury pool. now, then the two sides, they can ask questions. the judge will ask questions as well, and they will have the ability to strike people for cause, for example, if you don't speak english or you don't live in the district, you could get bumps. there's also preempt three challenges. each side will have ten, but this take, this is going to take time. we only have 40 weeks in this trial. there's no court on wednesday, the next week, we have passover as we expect, there'll be a couple of days off, so we could take a few weeks to actually seat this jury before the trial gets underway. >> all right. paula reid, fascinating stuff. thanks so much. let's bring in former

trump attorney jim trustee, who left the trump legal team after the former president was indicted in the federal classified documents case, jim good to see you. thanks for joining. do you think it's sunk in yet for donald trump that his first criminal trial is in all likelihood going to start on monday oh, sure. >> i mean, lucky. he's living this stuff on kind of a level of adrenaline that the rest of his probably don't share so i think it's getting pretty rare. i think paul did a nice job laying out potential options, but they're increasingly unlikely. and the more it's obvious that you're just trying to find a tool for delay. the less likely you're going to be greeted with any sort of sympathy when you file that next motion, whether it's with the appellate court or with the trial judge, if you were still representing donald trump, what advice would you be giving him right now about how this is all likely going to go and how he should behave in court but it's interesting and i don't want to get too far afield in terms of the prior representation, but i think the bottom line is at

>> some point, you really have to shift into the mode of trial and tactical and not worrying as much about the politics that's difficult for someone who's running for president, right now. but as a lawyer, i think you're obligation is to say, look, we've got to focus on the task at hand because this is a tribal case, and this is going to be a case where a jury selection apologists laid out is incredibly important because there's going to be a real incentive for people to want to be celebrity jurors to meet, to find a way to answer the questions in a way perhaps dishonestly, that it's a minute that magic number of 12 jurors, so there's a lot at stake. there's a lot to be focusing on, i think in terms of courtroom decorum, courtroom behavior, because it's such a i think creative, which really means week case relying so heavily on the credibility of michael cohen, that even in new york, president trump has a shot. so i think the lawyers in to focus on trying the case on cross-examination on the right arguments to make. >> and >> they want to have a client who's respectful in the courtroom so that the jury doesn't have any risk of being

alienated by any of that kind of political atmosphere. >> apologist suggested that one idea that trump could contemplate to delay this case even further as to fire his attorneys do you think you'd go that far >> yeah. i hope not. >> i mean, you talk about a spectacle that'll be crazy. and what would happen is i assume is the judge would number one, not delay the case and say, this is obviously a bend of your own making. and number two, they did point standby council that might be the same one lawyers that are on the case right now, it would make a farcical situation even more farcical, i suspect so. i hope that they don't try to pull that card. it's not going to get them to delay. i don't think there's any real likelihood at this hour the judge is going to say, okay, fine. you broke up with your lawyers, will see you in june. it's going to happen short of a more traditional motion. it's going to happen soon. and really, the focus i think should have been on that huge avalanche of paperwork that they just received. if you can find things there, that are

legitimate causes for concern like, judge, we have to follow up on this exculpatory information. they just dumped on us. if you had concrete evidence from that discovery dump, you might have something to play with, but otherwise, it's a hail mary without rosary beads. >> when you look at all the cases, donald trump is facing, obviously, there's the classified documents case in florida that's federal. the january 6 case in dc. that's federal. you have the georgia case having to do with the election subversion attempt. there you have this case. which one do you think he should be most concerned about >> yeah. i mean, if we have a >> two-hour show, we can go through it, but otherwise, i do have to our show rasic, but we don't have two hours just for you, but yes now. >> okay. yeah. now, i mean look, federal prosecutors and they abstract tend to have long investigations and are supported by a lot of evidence that's the reason why in federal court you have well over 90% and pleading guilty. so those tend to be very tough

charges defend against. of course, all of the atmosphere is different. when you talk about these kind of unique prosecutions, president trump. so i think you can get lost in the academia of wondering which is the worst case for you if you're defending on the bottom lines, you've got one on the table right now that you have >> to focus all your attention to, and that's in new york and i think that even with the difficulty of picking a jury in new york, that if you get a jury that's relatively fair you've got a shot because pick a cohen's credibility is not exactly something to write home about. >> jim trustee. thanks so much. appreciate it. as rioters attacked the us capitol on january 6, military combat veteran and congressman jason crow was one of many huddled up in the house chamber trying to protect his colleagues, will talk to him about his reaction to donald trump, who keeps inaccurate really calling rioters who have been criminally charged >> hostages. >> that's next >> king charles tomorrow it on

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>> in today's law and justice lead, we continue our series taking a closer look at the men and women whom donald trump refers to as his j6 hostage the jews, they are not hostages, they are defendants and criminals convicted of crimes from the capitol attack, often violent crimes, often committed against police officers, such as matthew de silva, matthew de silva is a navy veteran from lavon, texas, just outside dallas. he was convicted did last year of assaulting police on january 6 at the capitol prosecutors say that with a flag pole in hand, this elbow work with other writers to forcefully push against police trying to defend the lower west terrorist tunnel of the capital. prosecutors say video

from that day shows the silva grabbing a police riot shield and pulling it away from at least one police officer about a month after the capitol attack, a witness notice to silver from an fbi wanted photo. ultimately, it was that long bushy beard that gave him a way not to mention the blue and gray camouflage navy jacket and his distinctive black and yellow scarf. a second witnessed also recognized the silva noting the red hat, adding that he wore that yellow scarf almost every day. the second witness also said to silver had the long beard for years, >> but after the riot >> just shaved it off and cut his hair and stopped wearing that's scarf. curious time for fashion change in a bench trial last year, a judge found the silver guilty of two felony and form misdemeanor counts for his actions at the capitol. he is currently in the dc jail waiting to learn his prison sentence. >> again, >> no matter how many times mr. trump calls them hostages, they're not hostages. >> this one. >> and a long list of others

>> are convicted violent criminals. let's bring in democratic congressman jason crow of colorado. he's a combat vet who served as an army ranger before his days in congress and he spent more than 30 minutes on january 6, hiding in the house chamber, crouch down between the seeds helping colleagues, while the rioters attack congressman, thanks for joining us last monday, trump wrote on truth, social one of his first acts as president would be to quote free january 6 hostages wrongfully imprisoned unquotes. what's your response >> well, that's important. there's no doubt about that, but we also shouldn't be surprised, is one of the many abhorrent things that then i'll trump always does. he doesn't respect our democracy. he doesn't respect rule of law, and he certainly doesn't respect american voters, right? if you call these, these criminals, these insurrection as hostages you very clearly, we're trying to undermine the election, overturn the election and have no respect for our democratic government. that's

situation. we're dealing with here, but we're not going to let donald trump rewrite history. we're going to call it like it is. this was a violent insurrection that killed a police officer, several others took their own life ibs because of the trauma after the fact and over 160 were brutally beaten that day >> i just as somebody who served, you have a unique understanding of what it means to put yourself in a job where your life is at risk. and i'm just wondering, you see these capitol police officers all the time. many of them at least statistically according the law enforcement and many of them are conservative, many of them are republican. it doesn't really matter. >> but >> what, what goes through your mind when you think about these insurrectionists beating the crap out of these cops. and then donald trump calling them hostages as if they're in a tunnel in gaza being held by hamas yeah, it makes me really mad. jake is what it does, right? these are young men and women who come from all different backgrounds, all political affiliate the

patients you're right, it shouldn't matter whether they're democrat, republican. they are putting their lives on the line to protect our capital, to protect our democratic system. and that day they put it but all on the line to do that and they tried to save our democracy and to save both republican and democratic members of congress. and they did so with great courage and great valor. it's disparate pertain those folks who many of whom still have terrible wounds, both visible and invisible wounds from that day into call the violent criminals who beat these officers hostages is just important in my view. >> let's discuss some other news because the top democrat on the house foreign affairs committee, congressman gregory meeks told cnn that he's not ready to sign off on the sale. of f15 fighter jets to israel. he wants assurances on how those fighter jets would be used. you're also on the foreign affairs committee. what do you think should the us be supplying israel with more weapons for the war? against hamas in gaza given the fact that so many innocent lives are in the line of fire. and let's also underline here. they're in the line of fire because

hamas embeds within the population still, israel is killing a lot of innocent people yeah, that's right. >> i adjoin with mr. meeks and calling for a drastic change in the approach here and for us to reassess our, military aid to israel. and i've been a longtime supporter of israel. israel unequivocally has a right to defend itself in the proper way but what we've scene in the last couple of months is not the way you do not achieve national security either for israel or for the united states by killing tens of thousands because of civilians putting over 1 million at risk of famine. that doesn't serve anybody's interests. in addition to being a very big moral travesty, there has to be changed seen from there has to be changed now, for everybody's interests, i fought the war on terror and i know that you cannot defeat a terror organization with military force alone. you have to go to the hopelessness to fear the starvation, the conditions that are furthering

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would be a hard fight. >> it's a nightmare, and it's so insane, more than 20 years ago, three pennsylvania's derrick chappell, morton johnson, and sam grasty were all sentenced to life in prison for a gruesome murder that happened here in the city of chester step side of philadelphia the victim was 70 year-old henrietta nickens. she was beaten to death and semen had been found inside of her all along the three convicted men dubbed the chester trio, maintained their innocence. >> when you're offered to get out of jail and just a few years versus facing a potential life without parole sentence to have that moral strength to push forward, i think is so impressive >> the prosecution's key witness was a 15-year-old who claimed he was the lookout and traded his testimony for a plea deal. >> he was young, you cognitively impaired. he was under pressure from police with other charges. >> also, dna from the semen found at the scene did not

match any of the three men, according to court filings and other dna was found, none of their dna was there. they never ever were they weren't in the apartment as alleged by the state. >> so when 2021, the attorneys tried to new tactic using modern dna testing techniques to tell this jacket left behind at the crime scene, which prosecutors tried to link to the men once again, the attorney say the dna did not match the chester trio, all of the dna comes back to a genetic profile that has been labeled unknown male number one law enforcement should be dedicating their resources to finding who unknown male number one is and bringing true justice to the victim in this case, the prosecution argued they never tried to connect the semen to the defendants in the original trials. so the new evidence was moot. writing in recent court filings, the totality of the evidence, including the post-conviction section, dna evidence is just as consistent, if not more consistent with ms nickens having consensual intercourse

prior to the assault as it is with an unknown perpetrator committing both a rape and an assault. >> their explanation is delightful. water >> but last month, a pennsylvania judge vacated each of their convictions and order new trial vanessa potkin of the innocence project, described the moment chapel and johnson found out. >> they just went inside and they hugged and they cried and just, you know, this has been the moment that they've been fighting for. >> i'm looking forward to >> going to see him in a couple of days and giving them that big hug because this is just a huge step forward. >> three men are still behind bars today waiting now to see if the district attorney's office decides to appeal or retry the case to take it all of that 20s away from their 30s and the other role in their 40s. and the idea that you would continue it it's just such an injustice and it has it has to stop. it has to stop >> jake, the delaware county

da's office did not comment on these convictions being overturned, but they did say that they have but until april 27th to make a decision and there have been no planned announcements at this time and check, i'll just note, you've covered these stories before. it's very much bittersweet right now. these attorney counties are so optimistic that their clients, these menn, will get freedom from these crimes. they say they did not commit. but on the other hand, a family of the victim here, henrietta nickens they thought they had closure. and now that's been very much uprooted. again, will still wait to see what the de ultimately decides to do here. but the story not quite over yet yeah, but for every innocent man in prison, there's a guilty man who got away with it. danny freeman and philadelphia. thanks so much coming up, shots fired, 96 times and just 41 seconds in a traffic stop, then ended in the death of dexter read, a young manager cargo, the dramatic new body camera footage just released in this case. and what investigators have to say about police using that much for us stay with us

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