people feel for hank aaron beyond his baseball achievements. and those achievements were monumental what was it like to watch that moment i'm sorry, say it again. >> what was it like to actually watch that moment that was history yeah, i watched it on television. i was a college student at syracuse, but a huge baseball fan. and what really struck me was that so many people foolishly thought, oh well, people will forget about babe ruth. no, no, we had an eclipse today. >> thank karen statistically eclipsed babe ruth, but he didn't consign them to the dustbin of history. babe ruth is still a figure of legend just as no one's accomplishment prince, whatever they may be statistically, can eclipse hank aaron's place in history. >> he said it, well, i was a college student at the time and i remember it the bob costas snacks very, very much into our viewers. thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room the news continues on cnn right now.

>> tonight on three, 60 generational event, we will not see again for decades the total solar eclipse, the proves moments both magical and even matrimonial. the images from today, plus bill nye, the science guy, also breaking news tonight in the former president's criminal hush money trial, we have a judge's decision on his latest, but by no means, last attempt to delay hey, we've learned what prospective jurors could be asked about associations with fringe groups. and later the former president's latest stance on abortion that his former vice president today called a quote, slap in the face. the fallout plus a history of how his opinions have changed over the years good evening. thanks for joining us. we start with a stellar event today, the plunge much the united states into darkness will not be repeated for more than 20 years the total eclipse of the sun witness firsthand by tens of millions in the plus many more and mexico and canada. it was the rare event when people from all over could stop, look up, and share a celestial they'll moment together total eclipse

excitement began on the shores of mexico pick them spreading is the path move northeast through texas >> hey russell bill arkansas more than 350 couples said i do. as the moon crossed over the sun, actually, he made me cry. >> i didn't think i'd cry. yeah, tears of joy. obviously, i've just i've just so happy to be married to her tears of joy and wonder. >> oh wow, that's amazing. it looks like something out of a sci-fi movie. >> thousands gathered on the indianapolis motor speedway brings tears to including two former astronauts, the parents have cnn's kristin fisher showing us that it never gets old looking up at the sky you've seen a site that so few people have seen. you've been to space >> how does a total solar eclipse compared to the view of the earth from space dead,

it's just as beautiful. it's just as beautiful. >> i have no words. it was much more dramatic than i thought a moment of transcendence and cleveland ohio, i think this is just a universal experience in >> understanding how much we all belong. enroll one on this little, little planet, going around a star it's just beautiful, breathtaking. there's so much just feel >> in stowe, vermont >> look at the stars that a look planets >> i love you >> love story cemented in the darkness of a total solar eclipse. >> there was wonder even on a rooftop in new york city, where only a partial eclipse was visible >> oh yeah >> a day, a moment for the ages

for the record, my little son's did wear glasses. he actually saw it and he said it looked like a banana humans were not the only ones affected by this event. 11 dara within the path of totality, the dallas zoo in texas, witnessing how the animals responded to the eclipse. that's where he joined us tonight. so what happened did did the animals notice it >> will aronson we saw a little bit of everything instinctual, energetic, dismissive. my hand to be honest with you, when we first got out here, i was a little worried about what we were going to see. i was worried it might fall flat. but what we'd experienced was a completely unique way to see the total eclipse it was like momentarily walking into the classic comedy night at the museum a glimpse into the secret lives of animals at the dallas zoo. when humans aren't around to watch zebra started chasing him and then the ostrich has got into the mix as well, just as the zoo slipped into total darkness. a jolt of

animal energy seemed to shoot through the grounds. the moment mesmerized lease events sleet, a curator of mammals at the dallas zoo. >> so did the total eclipse de meet your expectations >> exceeded my expectations today, there was a lot more activity than i expected to see out of animal just before total darkness and ostrich, laid an egg and hovered over it for a time protecting it zoo officials say it's not clear if the moment was caused by the eclipse. but that the timing was certainly curious. they said guinea fowl suddenly crowed wildly >> divergent. >> the birds are getting ladder just before the covered the sun for almost four minutes, a young giraffe and its mother, gallup around the enclosure. the zebras joined in the chase's well, here and around the country, elephants grouped together and appeared to head back to the area where they sleep >> flamingos >> packed together in the middle of a pond in their habitat primates apparently also thought it was bedtime. animal experts say the sudden

darkness triggered a natural reaction. among many of the animals at nighttime, predators go out a lot more and so they have to kinda huddle together to be safety in numbers. and in case someone coming. so they went into that instinct pretty quickly. >> this doggie day care in the dallas area this group of dogs seem to stop confused by the sudden darkness when the sun returned, the dogs started playing around again another video captured a cat wanting to come inside. it's home when darkness struck at the toledo xu, a polar bear didn't seem to care about all the fuss nonchalantly dove into the water before the sun disappears here texas parks and wildlife officials teamed up with nasa to set up these acoustic recording devices to monitor the sounds of animals in the wild but not all animals or flustered or impressed by the total eclipse two boko, the giraffe mostly walked around unfazed, ready to start chewing on the lettuce, the humans fetal in the sun came back so

our, zoo officials, i mean, do they use the information they learned is that any scientific value >> well, it's interesting here they were handing out forms to people as they came into the zoo today to document what they see. and one of the things that zoo officials say they will do is that they're going to collect all these observations and share them with other zoos across the country and also talk to other zoos that were in the path of the eclipse andersen, there's very little research and data that is available because these total eclipses are so rare, so they're hoping to gather all of this and kind of crowdsource and share all the information so people can kinda capture exactly how all these different species reacted to the four minutes of darkness >> 11, derrick, thanks so much. i'm joined now by bill nye, the science guy. bill, you were in fredericksburg, texas today in the path of totality. i know we have a cliff of you watching the eclipse that i want to play part of that oh, my goodness, everyone april 8, 2024 shared experience with the planetary

numbers all right i hate to say it >> everyone, but remember, when you see the return of the diamond ring, it's time to put your glasses back on please. >> please put the bat >> that's a prominent prominent just starting for four the cloud >> so how did you feel about it? was it worth the wait and what is a solar flare? >> oh, software is around term. i think it was a prominence, strictly speak, i was caught up in the moment, so it's this magnetic, these magnetic fields of the sun blast these charged particles out into space and when the moon is between us and

the son in zizek g syzygy. you can really get a glimpse of them and the clouds here or just thin enough to make the prominence easier to see. they blocked out some of the very bright part of the sun or the rim around the moon. and then you could see this prominence down. >> i don't know if the footage >> is going to catch it. they're done sort of 5:00 position if it were if the disk were o'clock and it was spectacular. i had never seen before. the other thing you know there's a breeze here all day, fredericksburg, texas. but during the eclipse stopped, there must have been air masses and bumping into each other and just stopped. >> and >> then way off to the east, you could see sunlight at first and then it went dark and then four minutes later, you could see the sunlight marching toward you. it was really, it was a spectacular. >> had you have you seen one before? >> yeah i saw 2017. i was in

beatrice, nebraska. there's a national park there and in 2002 i was in south africa along the east coast for another, partly cloudy event and it was, it's still spectacular even, even in the cloud and it goes dark. everybody, as you were saying, the clouds in this case actually kinda helped >> it helped us. yeah. >> it sees something that i'd never seen before, but overall, you want to clear de i mean, for crying out loud, but it was pretty great here. it was really it was this another thing i talked about all the time? is the shared experience. yeah, we were all out there close to 1,000 people from the planetary society sharing this experience, it was really, it was wonderful. it was cool even in new york city, i was then top of my house and to see people and other buildings out on their roofs and balconies and stuff. it was one of those moments where you suddenly see your neighbors and wade if it was, it brings people together.

do i mean, is there a scientific value and studying the eclipse >> oh, yes, it's a natural coronagraphs simply put, no, by blocking the sun we can or scientists who are skilled with right instruments can observe the weather around the sun as it's called, where you see all these prominences, solar flares coronal mass ejections cmes around the sun. but this material, charged material atoms are shot out into space and twist it around by these very powerful magnetic fields. and so we learn more about the sun. we're learning more about stars. >> and >> i just always like to drop this in when we study stars, we are getting closer to having fusion in a controlled way on earth and have fusion power plants would be would be almost magical if we could pull it off in the next couple of decades. so it's, it's one more, one

more opportunity to collect, collect data about stars, a star that will inform humankind as it understands, as we work to understand our place in space. >> it was also amazed me how fast the eclipse moved across the country, more than 1,500 miles per hour >> yeah. why don't they do something about them? >> know >> the spin of the earth, you guys makes this happened and the atmosphere is spinning right along with it and it is just the scale of the thing really is jaw-dropping. how fast it goes across the continent. >> and >> that we live in this one place in the solar system and maybe the one place in the galaxy where the satellite of the planet we live on the moon is just the right size to block out the sun. so in october we had an annular eclipse as it's called a ring of light around

the moon, because the moon was a little farther away, but he thousand kilometers farther away than it was today. but when it's all set up, just right in the syzygy, you get to spectacular effect or bill nye. >> thank you so much. we're going to later in the program talk to harry enten, who was up in niagara falls. you may not know this. he's our data guy, but he actually graduated from whether camp when he was a teenager. so he's going to have fill us in yeah. >> good. i'm all for whether kim yes, i've drawn. >> thanks so much still to come multiple breaking news stories on the former president's many legal trials. first, the judge's decision on whether he can delay his criminal hush money trial is set to begin next monday, plus scene is that obtain the actual jury questionnaire also? just moments ago, special counsel jack smith, at telling the supreme court to reject the former president's claims of immunity and the election interference case. we have details on that file, 100% free with turbotax free edition,

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hush money trial in new york appeals court judge, they denied his request to delay the trial. i'll which is scheduled to begin one week from today. that decision only took the judge about 40 minutes after arguments concluded. and we're also learning what perspective jurors will be asked. kara scannell have joins us now with the tails. well, i just got a questionnaire. it's really fascinating what stands out to you. >> yeah, they're the basic questions about where do you live in the city? what do you do? where do you get your news? but they're also trying to dig and in root out whether there's any bias here are for or against donald trump. and they do this so the vast number of questions have heavy ever worked for trump. his campaign is have you ever attended any rallies for trump? have you attended any rallies against trump? and they're also asking if you belong to any fringe groups they cite. q and on the proud boys, but also antifungals one question they asked first thought was interesting and really specific to this case is do you have any strong beliefs about whether a former president can be criminally charged in state court because there are these questions about immunity and about whether the politics of going after a former president.

i mean, another thing that is interesting here, the judge you made it clear there will be no questions about political contributions who you voted for, who you like. because as the judge has said, in reminded the lawyers in his jury questionnaire that the issue here is not to determine whether someone likes trump's or doesn't like trump, but whether they can be fair and impartial. >> so as of now, this trial is happening monday. >> yeah. >> this is ago for now, judge has ruled against trump. >> yeah. trump's team went to the court today asking them to delay the trial so they can make a motion to challenge the venue because they say new york has been saturated with this story. there has been the e jean carroll trial. there's just a lot in the news and they did a poll of 400 new yorkers in which they say say that a lot of people, more than half said that they thought that trump was guilty now, the prosecution oppose that, saying, there's nowhere you can go to bring this case where people don't know about it. it's an international story and they push back and the judge, as you said, ruled pretty quickly afterwards denying this. and it will

trump's team tried to make another or go at the appeals court and another issue remains to be seen >> the foreign prisoners team, they made some about stormy daniels and a subpoena. what does that? >> so there's still trying to enforce some subpoenas that they issued just last month. one is the stormy daniels. they want to know about any communications she's had a better documentary. any communication his head was trial witnesses including michael cohen. they've been on podcasts together. and also, if she's had communications, what were they with? e jean carroll and two other women who have accused trump of sexual assault. the reason that they already they need this is because they're suggesting that there's some potential motive here for stormy daniels to give as they put it, false testimony in order to profit off of this is they're trying to see what they can learn, we want to bring in two former federal prosecutors, elie honig and jessica roth, who's now a professor at the cardozo school of law here in new york. >> i'm the jury questionnaire. good. does it is courtesy. i just talks about proud boys. q and on bugaboo boys and then

tivo it's a fascinating document. so first of all, jury selection is so crucial when you're a prosecutor or a defense lawyer, the stakes are so high, you let one bad juror through, you're going to regret that for a long time. and what the judge in the court is trying to do with this document is suss out any undue biases and it really sort of breaks into a couple of parts. one of them is just basically the basics, the biograph hochul basics, what type of job do you do? what's your family situation? but then it gets into without quite asking, how do you feel about donald trump? do you love him or hate him? asking a lot of proxies for that, for example, where do you get your news? are you a member of any organizations? and then as kara said, have you been to a trump rally? are you part of any trump email list? so as have you been a part of any anti-trump organization now, i don't know if democrats count as anti-trump, so there's a little bit of interpretation here. but what's going to happen as the jurors will fill out these questionnaires, and then it's sort of a guessing game as a lawyer, you have a limited glimpse into a person. >> and >> based on their answers, you have to surmise just person

going to be good for me or bathroom the whole case is at stake. >> private attorneys will often have jury consultants who analyzed jurors does to the state, to cities public prosecutors have that >> well, very, very rarely. >> i mean, it's just not generally done. i don't have any insight into whether they're doing that here, but that would be very rare. >> what is the difference? >> i >> mean, they're asking where people get their news, whether they've attended to trump rally. there, the judge is pointing out, and he's saying there are no questions asking protected jurors whom they voted for or intend to vote for whom they've made political contributions to what's the difference if they're trying to get at it this other way? >> yeah. >> because what they're with the judge's trying to hey, clear what the judge is going to be trying to make clear to the potential jurors, is that they're not being asked their political views and they're not being asked which party, if any, they are affiliated are sort of being asked. but what they're really trying to get as can you be a fair and impartial juror in this particular case where you decide the case based on the evidence and the arguments

presented in court as opposed to any bias that you bring in that you wouldn't be able to put aside this is just the beginning these questions because then there will be follow-up with jurors who say, for example, yes, i've attended a rally, then there would be the opportunity for follow-up questions to try to get at whether their attendance at such a rally in some way indicates a bias that would impair their ability to be fair impartial >> i'm so say you're gonna get a pretty good sense of who these people are evil without coming out and asking, but imagine if someone says, i'm a member of the nra, i've attended a trump rally and i primarily watch fox news. imagine if someone says, i'm a member of the aclu, i've donated to anti-trump efforts and i primarily watch msnbc. i mean, there will be examples of certainly the last better in manhattan, maybe the former. so some jurors you're gonna have a pretty clear view, but then there's always those jurors who are cagey and you have to just sort of use your instinct >> i mean, are we there seven days? is there a chance for a venue change still? >> i mean, at this point before this, judge today, you mean she made the ruling and that's the

end of it at this at this court print at this level, i mean, could he go to the higher court of appeals? it's a possibility that he could, but there's going to be no more brace before this first level of appeal. >> but if you went to the higher court that could still change something by next monday in theory, but he doesn't have a right to have them here. this appeal, it would be discretionary on their part whether they would take it and honestly, on the merits, it's so weak that i have a hard time imagining that they would consider it. >> yeah. he's got to lose on menu. >> i loaned you think jury selection is going to take so the estimates that we've heard her a week or more, but remember they're going to have to go through each of these individually mean you have to winnow down hundreds of people down to 12, i would guess over a week, maybe just over a week it takes longer in state court, in federal court, it's also important to know in federal court, we used to pick juries in a day, two days. yeah. i mean, this is an extraordinary case for all the reasons we're familiar with one thing i noted in the cover letter that the judge attached to the jury questionnaire. is he if i read it correctly, he's saying to the lawyers for jurors who say basically, i have a reason, i

cannot serve in this case that he's going to essentially excuse him at that point without doing further inquiry because that will really cut and launch cut down the time that will speed it up. and that was a point of contention at >> one of the hearings trump's team initially wanted to pull everyone individually and they started to do that in the trump organization tax fraud trial, a couple of years ago and midway through change, their decision because it was taking too long. so that seemed to me they were looking to speed it up that way. the trump organization trial took about a week to seat the jury, the e jean carroll, which was federal court, took one today. i think the estimate for this is one week and they're only meeting four days that first week and has the carrier has the president's former president's legal team, given a sense of what their defenses here, i think the main defenses attacking the credibility of some of these witnesses, michael cohen, he is the one person that can testify about the conversation he had with donald trump in the oval office about the reimbursement? no, we're not going to hear from alan weisselberg, who was part of that. we will hear from

some other trump organization executives, but i think connecting trump to the falsification is where they're probably going to focus a lot and tried to distance trump. tough though, to go after the credibility of michael cohen. i mean, there's plenty the reasons graph to the credibility of michael cohen. but when donald trump had him as his right-hand man, four that, that'll be exactly the argument, right? he trusted him back to that and it's really important to keep mine the crime here is not hush money. it's not a crime to pay hush money. it's falsification. can they tie donald trump to the logging of those payments as legal fees? and if specifically the state is arguing that the reason it was illegal was because this was an unlawful undisclosed campaign donation. trump is going to argue no, it was to protect my marriage. that's why i paid or the money and i imagine that that might be some of the focus of the defense as well. a trial. >> just go, rob. thanks so much. elie honig, but kara scannell coming up more breaking news, what what's in a new filing with the supreme court from special counsel jack smith. ahead of this month, scheduled arguments determine whether the former president can claim presidential immunity

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violate them >> he got goes on to say, the framers never endorsed criminal immunity for a former president and all presidents from the founding to the modern era have known that after leaving, leaving office, they faced potential criminal liability for official acts. now, former president trump anderson has claimed that if this prosecution is now to go forward, this is going to impair the presidency forever, including all former president's and jack smith pushes back against that argument here. i'll read you just another part of this. the petitioner is charged with crimes that if proved at trial, reflect an unprecedented assault on the structure of our government, the effective functioning of the presidency does not require that a former president be immune from accountability for these alleged violations of federal criminal law to the contrary, a bedrock principle of our constitutional order is that no person is above the law, including the president anderson. we also see a lot of

push back here from the idea that this that this case should be put on hold and sent back to the courts for more hearings. jack smith is saying that the courts have already handled a lot of the questions that are at issue here. >> and just remind people that timeline in this case well, the timeline the room cord is now hearing this, but if you remember, jack smith had asked them to take a look at this and consider this back in december. and so the fact that we are here now, we're going to hear, we're going to have the oral arguments on april 25th that means that we made in not here we might not have a final decision from the supreme court until july, which is when we expect that their term will end. anderson. all right. evan, thanks. joining me now to break it down, the special counsel's late just filing is former republican congressman adam kinzinger, who served on the house january 6 committee and former federal prosecutor, jeffrey toobin. so i want to read something else from jack smith it's filing he wrote federal criminal law applies. the president petitioner

suggested unless a criminal statute expressly names the president, the statute does not apply that radical suggestion in which would free the president from virtually all criminal law, even crimes such as bribery, murder, treasonous addition, is unfounded. do you think that's enough for this report? >> i think the bras god trump claim that he is absolutely immune from all criminal charges relating to when he was president. that's never going to win that. that is not a tenable argument and i think jack smith's argument there makes it makes it pretty clear. the problem for the government, the problem for the justice department jack smith here is this idea that there may be some areas of presidential conduct that are in fact off limit and the district court has to have a hearing to decide whether this case implicates that that would delay this trial well into next year, and you you could tell in reading the government's brief that they're concerned about that

the issue was a remand sending it back to the district court for more hearings. that's the real worry here for the prosecution not that somehow trump is going to win and began the supreme court just decide instead of it being sent back for raman. >> yes, that's what that's what smith is asking them to do. he's saying, look, just let this trial proceed and that's what the dc circuit, the intermediate appeals court decided that they don't have to be any more hearings. this case can just go that's what smith wants. the supreme court to do. but he's clearly really worried that they are going to ask for more hearings before they let the case go to trial. congressman, the special counsel's team also references a piece of illegal logic, the moos high school history students could probably follow, which president gerald ford would not have pardon former president richard nixon after watergate, if a prosecution wasn't a possibility, do you think the supreme court will care about that? >> yeah. i mean, i think look, i think this is going to if it doesn't get remanded, it's going to get like dismissed out

of hand nine or eight, one >> but let's look >> at the politics of this. so the gerald ford examples really important >> secondly, we fought a revolution against the british because we believe that no person is above the law. we were against having a monarchy rule us. that's untouchable and taxation without representation. the other thing that's interesting here is the same guy, the defendant donald trump, who is saying that he has absolute immunity from everything, is still out there at every speech talking about the laws that so the so-called laws that are being broken by joe biden, which of course there's no evidence of. >> but you can't >> on the one hand, say that a president has absolute immunity. and on the other hand, say that the president of the united states joe biden, is violating laws where he needs to be locked up or all this kind of stuff. it's asinine, but that goes to the whole point here. the whole point is not to argue deep legal theory

and not to get an answer of deep legal theory. it's to stall and delay so that donald trump in his mind hopefully wins. >> and then he he can direct the department of justice to dismiss this case and they will because they will be under his direction >> as part of their argument for immunity, trump's attorneys, they've been arguing there are pointing to the fact that no president has ever faced criminal charges on his official acts. and jack smith addresses this writing, the absence of any prosecutions of former president's until this case does not reflect the understanding that presidents are immune from criminal liability. and instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct is essentially saying there's hasn't been a former president like trump >> exactly. and the fact that no other president has tried to over turn an election in which he lost doesn't mean that you get a free pass when you actually try to overturn the i mean, the idea that donald

trump is different, that this conduct is different from any other president former president is at the heart of this case. and the idea that because trump has done something so novel and so awful that he gets away with it is something that i don't think the supreme court is really going to buy. and congressman your former january 6 colleague, liz cheney, said, are your generous six committee colleague said recently, that is very important members of the spring court recognized trump is just trying to run out the clock and not allow them to do that. do you think the court should take the timeline of the case into account >> what really think they do. they should personally, because look, this is going to be obviously very important for the structure of the nation. the other thing is the president has gotten a lot of consideration that a regular defendant and not just on the immunity issue, wouldn't get i think it is something they should now should they rushed the judgment? not necessarily. you don't want we have to make sure this is done fairly and donald trump gets his due

course to litigate this in the law. but you also have to recognize that this is very important. and stuff for a country that's about to make a very important decision. and it's clear. and i think justices have to look at just the reality here. it's clear that what donald trump is trying to do is utilize them to buy time simply to get past an election and then frankly, if he wins, it doesn't matter what happens after that when he just simply directs doj to drop the case. >> it is kinda missing clarence thomas is going to be weighing in on this, whose wife was involved on january 6, unbelievable unbelievable. i mean, the idea that someone whose wife was intimately involved in a believer that but she's entitled to believe any xing sees you wants and she's entitled to exercise her amendment rights in any way she wants but it creates the impression when your husband is evaluating some of the same conduct you were you as the

wife. we're advocating it's it's unbelievable. and just the fact that he hasn't recused himself yet it just shows how we are becoming immune to use a phrase from this egregious conflict of interests that thomas has, but there is no oversight over the supreme court. there is no binding ethics cord code on the supreme court. so other than impeachment, there's nothing anyone can do to clarence thomas the toobin. thank so much, congressman kinzinger. thank you. coming up next, why foreign prison trump's latest statement on abortion has been met with criticism from pro-life groups and members of his own party that's next the lead. with jake tapper weekdays it four and cnn >> higher shipping rates may be the cost of doing business. but at what cost? >> turned shipping to your advantage with low cost ground shipping from the united states postal service he has a gynecologist. i'm embarrassed

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it from a legal standpoint. the states will determine by vote or legislation, or perhaps both. and whatever they decide must be the law of the land in this case the law of the state. many states will be different. many will have a different number of weeks or some will have more conservative than others. and that's what they will be at the end of the day. this is all about the will of the people this follows a brief flirtation was importing the 15 week federal ban with exceptions carved for incest and rape for when the life of the mother is in danger. republican candidates run the country have at times struggled to stake out a position on the issue following the supreme court's overturning of roe v. wade back in 2022. >> a ruling that the former president says he proudly responsible for the foreign presence video statement drew condemnation today from his own former vice president mike pence, who called it a slap in the face of the pro-life americans who voted for their ticket in 2016 and 2020

republican in south carolina, senator lindsey graham suggested that he respectfully disagreed with the former president and the organization susan b. anthony, pro-life america releases david saying in part, we are deeply disappointed in president trump's position on social media. mr. trump hit back at his critics on the right, suggesting their hardline stance for a federal ban would only provide a boost for democrats in the november election, you rights, people forget fighting roe v. wade was right from the beginning all about bringing the issue back to the states pursuant to the 10th amendment and state's rights wasn't about anything else and quote, you went on to say the democrats would never give up on this issue no matter how many weeks the republicans went, even if they went unlimited abortion. now it's worth pointing out that former presidents believes that abortion should be left to the states is just the latest in his evolving view on the issue, keeping them honest on that year's are randy k donald trump staked out his first public position on abortion in april of 1989, when he co-sponsor to dinner at the plaza >> hotel in manhattan for the president of a national group that advocates for abortion

rights then more than a decade later in 1999 on nbc's meet the press, trump defended his position, doubling down on it. >> i'm very pro-choice. i hate the concept of abortion. i hate it. i hate everything it stands for. i cringe when i listened to people debating the subject but you still i just believe in choice. but you would not ban it? >> no as the years passed and trump grew more serious about running for president, his position on abortion flipped. this was him at cpac, the conservative political action conference in 2011 i'm pro-life >> i'm against gun control >> by then trump was opposed to abortion rights in a cnn interview in june 2015, even trump himself seemed momentarily confused tuesday about where he stood on the issue. >> i know you're opposed to

abortion right? i'm pro-choice. you're your poor choice for proline. i'm pro life. i'm pro-life >> later in 2015 at a gop presidential primary debate, trump was asked why his position on the issue changed since 1999. he explained he'd quote, evolved what happened is friends of mine years ago, we're going to have a child and it was going to be aborted and it wasn't a boarded >> and that child today is a total superstar, a great, great child. and i saw that and i saw other instances. the following year in 2016. >> i'm willing i'm pro-life. the judges will be pro-life as recently as may last year, trump was still noncommittal about what exactly a national abortion ban might look like if he were elected again, let's try for the portion band you did not say yes or no to that >> what the deal is done. >> i'll make the right decision. >> in february trump's signaling he was open to uh, 15 week federal ban with

exceptions for cases of rape, incest. and when the life of the mother is in danger. >> now, people are agreeing on 15, and i'm thinking in terms of that, i'll make that announcement at the appropriate time. >> that announcement when it came today, marked trump's latest attempt to thread this political needle randi kaye, cnn, palm beach, florida. >> join me out. scene ends. audie cornish, host of the assignment podcast what do you make of his latest positioning? >> well he's consistent and that he believes and winning elections and he said in the statement very explicitly that that's what he thinks needs to be the concern now and has lashed out at the anti-abortion critics who have gone after him for the things that went unsaid in the statement, right? not saying he'd sign a, national ban for existed for example. so i think that he needs to take the credit for the end of roe v. wade, but he doesn't want to take credit for the fallout,

which in some 11 elections since 11 or 12, democrats have seen gains because people feel like things have gone too far in their states i a skeptic would say, well, what's to stop him from changing his views as soon as he gets into office, that essentially he says what he needs to at >> the time in order to get elected. >> i also want to broaden the conversation and that it's actually not just about a band, yes or no right now, you have anti-a the abortion activists who are very much seeking to end, let's say getting abortion pills by mail. if you had a trump appointed chief of the fda maybe he would be supportive of that. he or she right? there's also something called the comstock law, which talks about mailing things again, obscene materials they're all kinds of executive actions and orders a trump administration would be very much four because they are things that they did before

biden comes in makes changes again, and trump has promised to roll back all kinds of executive actions. so there are all kinds of funding and rules that you don't need congress for. you don't need the supreme court for that. he can affect and most likely will >> do you think the pushback from groups, from lindsey graham, from antiabortion groups do you think that that has an impact on trump? yeah. i mean, my dots cynical view is that it cares very much about what they think. and that's why he's lashing back. my cynical view is by having these groups basically say trump, you won't go as far as us. he gets to turn to the rest of america and say see i'm not extreme, i'm not them, i'm not going to push you that far even though it's hard to see him saying, oh, the florida than at six weeks. that's about to take place in may, which is before most women know they're pregnant, shouldn't go into

effect, we haven't heard him say something like that. we haven't heard him talk about any of these state laws have gone into effect and say that's too far and so i think he it helps him to have a conversation that makes him look like he's somewhat near the middle, even though inaction we know that he's not he also seem to come out supporting ivf, which again is it's a huge issue. and one that a lot on the right do not agree with >> i mean, obviously, i think the minute that ruling happened out of alabama, you had a lot of republicans saying, wait a second, what are you guys doing? but the truth is, while they have momentum anti-abortion activists are going to go after things that that follow in line with the overall ideology, which would be life begins at conception. and if that's the case, yes. ivf is vulnerable. conception itself, contraception is vulnerable. there's a lot of

policy that follows this thinking and what we haven't heard, trump or anyone in a circle say, say from project 22 when he five these people who are preparing for a trump second term we haven't heard them say that's too far, right >> so i think that what will help people is if they listened to him speak in totality because it is still very extreme. and i want to say one footnote, which is that even in his speeches, he's continued to repeat the falsehood that democrats want to do abortions after the baby is born. he said this multiple times and still says it and set it in this statement as well. so there are all of these breadcrumbs write that reveal where this is going. even if it's designed in to make you feel like it's a gentler softer, squishier conversation that it is pretty cornish. thank you so much. thank you might remember for better or worse, are harry enten whether camp graduate i might add to spent last week

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harry enten the former, whether camp attendee was there, he joins us now, while you've got a hard hat on so harry, how was it? >> you know, >> i am sick and tired of everyone saying oh, the eclipse was so amazing we came here to western new york. i've been here for five days. we just can't catch a freaking break up bills lost the chiefs in the divisional round. and today, it was pure clouds we did not really get a true eclipse, only magically at the last moment, it went dark, but we didn't actually get to see the moon cover over the sun. >> you didn't see anything. >> i can't believe you. all it is is you just see it go dark. that's really all that we saw at that wasn't covered in cloud. clouds >> it was >> all clouds the entire day. it was sunny yesterday. it was sunny saturday. just our luck. it was cloudy today. derrick van dam gets to see a gosh darn proposal in front of them. will we get gosh darn clouds covering the entire event? i got to tell you how i just went up in my roof and i saw a

really pretty cool eclipse in new york city. you shouldn't just say course of course, >> then you invite me to that roof. maybe i wouldn't have had the i wouldn't have to come out to western new york to see clouds. i could have been on your roof with you enjoying it. >> this is just a yet another reason why you should never leave new york city you know, i think that's exactly right. this is the reason why should never leave new york city. it was the reason i'd never been to canada before, although i should say a lot of your viewers think that i should be joining canada. maybe you and i can go together to canada. it can be my first experience north of the border of canada is one of the greatest countries the world that the law are so incredibly nice. there was so is there one experience, a big take any takeaway from this? we only got a few seconds left >> yeah, i think my big experience in here is what you just said, stay in new york and less than two of us are going to canada because yes, the truth has anytime i leave the city, only bad things happen. >> all right. harry enten. thank you. i'm sorry. you didn't see it, but i will show you some videos. the news