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thank you. and thanks so much to all oyou for being with us. andersen starts now tonight on three 60 and generational event, we will not see again for decades the total solar eclipse. the proofs, moments, both magical and even matrimonial. the images from today, plus bill nye, the science let's guy, also breaking news tonight. and the former president's criminal hush money trial. we have a judge's decision on his latest, but by no means, last attempt to delay and we've learned what prospective juror as could be asked about associations with fringe groups. and later the former president's latest stance on abortion that his former vice president today called a quote, slap in the face. fallout plus a history of how his opinions have changed over the years. >> good evening. thanks for joining us. we start with a stellar event today, the plunge much the united states into darkness will not be repeated for more than 20 years. the total eclipse of the sun witness firsthand by tens of millions in the plus many more and mexico and canada. it was the rare event when people apart from all over could stop,

look up, and share a celestial moment together total eclipse excitement began on the shores of mexico pick them spreading is the path move northeast through texas russell ville, arkansas more than 350 couples said, i do. as the moon crossed over the sun, actually, he made me cry. i didn't think i'd cry. tears of joy. obviously, i've just i've just so happy to be married to her tears of joy and wonder. >> oh wow, that's amazing. it looks like something out of a sci-fi movie >> thousands gathered on the indianapolis motor speedway brings tears to including two former astronauts. the parents have cnn's kristin fisher showing us that it never gets old, looking up at the sky, you've seen a site that so few

people have seen. you've been to space. >> how does a total solar eclipse compared to the view of the earth from space dead? >> it's just as beautiful. it's just as beautiful. >> i have no words. it was much more dramatic than i thought or really a moment of truth transcendence in cleveland, ohio, i think this is just a universal experience in understanding how much we all belong enroll one on this little, little planet going around a star. >> it's just beautiful >> breathtaking. there's so much you know, did just feel in stowe, vermont. >> look at the stars that a look planets i love, you >> i love story cemented in the darkness of a total solar eclipse. >> there was wonder even on a rooftop in new york city, where

only a partial eclipse was visible >> oh, yeah >> a day, a moment for the ages for the record, my little son, sebastian, did wear glasses. he actually saw it and he said it looked like a banana humans were not the only ones affected by this event at 11 dara within path of totality, the dallas zoo in texas, witnessing how the animals responded to the eclipse. that's where he joined us tonight. so what happened did did the animals notice it >> well, everything we saw a little bit of everything instinctual, energetic, dismissive. my hand to be honest with you, when we first got out here, i was a little worried about what we were going to see. i was worried it might fall flat. but what we'd experienced was a completely unique way to see the total eclipse >> it was >> like momentarily walking into the classic comedy night at the museum a glimpse into the secret lives of animals at the dallas zoo. when humans aren't around to watch zebra started chasing him and then

the asieh has got into the mix as well, just as the zoo slipped into total darkness, a jolt of animal energy seemed to shoot through the grounds the moment mesmerize lease events, sleet, a curator of mammals at the dallas zoo. >> so did the total eclipse de meet your >> expectations, >> exceeded my expectations today, there was a lot more activity than i expected to see out of the animal just before total darkness and ostrich laid an egg and hovered over it for a time, protecting it >> zoo officials >> say it's not clear if the moment was caused by the eclipse, but that the timing was certainly curious. they said guinea fowl suddenly crowed wildly >> verjee. >> the birds are getting louder. >> just before moon covered the sun for almost four minutes, a young giraffe and its mother, gallup around the enclosure. the zebras joined in the chase's well, here and around the country, elephants grouped together and appeared to head back to the area where they sleep flamingos packed together in the middle of a pond in

their habitat primates apparently also thought it was bedtime animal experts say the sudden darkness triggered a natural reaction among many of the animals at nighttime, predators go out a lot more and so they have to huddle together to be safety in numbers. and in case something coming. so they went into that instinct pretty quick. >> this doggy daycare in the dallas area, this group of dogs seem to stop confused by the sudden darkness when the sun returned, the dogs started playing around again. another video captured a cat wanting to come inside. it's home when darkness struck at the toledo xu, a polar bear didn't seem to care about all the fuss on shortly, dove into the water before the sun disappeared texas parks and wildlife officials teamed up with nasa to set up these acoustic recording devices to monitor the sounds of animals in the wild but not all animals or flustered or impressed by the total eclipse to bogey, the giraffe, mostly walked around

unfazed ready to start chewing on the lettuce, the humans fetal. when the sun came back >> so our zoo officials, i mean, do they use the information they learn today? is that any scientific value? >> well, it's interesting here they were handing out forms to people as they came into the zoo today to document what they see. >> and one of the things that >> zoo officials say they will do is that they're going to collect all these observations patients and share them with other zoos across the country and also talk to other zoos that were in the path of the eclipse. andersen, there's very little research and data that is available because these total eclipses are so rare, so they're hoping to gather all of this and kind of crowdsource and shift here all the information. so people can kinda capture exactly how all these different species reacted to the four minutes of darkness two, 11, derrick, thanks so much. i'm joined by bill, nye, the science guy. hi, so bill, you were in fredericksburg, texas today in the path of totality. i know we have a clip of you watching the eclipse that i want to play part of that >> oh, my goodness, everyone

april, 8, 2024, shared experience with the planetary all right >> i hate to say it everyone, but remember, when you see the return of the diamond ring, it's time to put your glasses back on please. >> please put the bat >> that's a prominent thank. >> you >> we saw a solar flare theta cloud so how did you feel about it was worth the wait and what is a solar flare >> flare is around term, i think it was a prominence, strictly speak, i was caught up in the moment, so it's this magnetic, these magnetic fields

of the sun blast these charged particles out into space. >> and >> when the moon is between us and the sun and xizhi syzygy you can really get a glimpse of them and the clouds here we're just thin enough to make the prominence easier to see they blocked out some of the very bright part of the sun or the rim around the moon. and then you could see this prominence down. i don't know if the footage is going to catch it. they're down sort of 5:00 position if it were if the disk were a clock then it was spectacular. i'd never seen that before. the other thing, you know, there's a breeze here all day fredericksburg, texas. but during the eclipse, stopped, there must have been air masses bumping into each other and just stopped and then way off to the east, you could see sunlight at first. >> and >> then it went dark and then four minutes later, you could see the sunlight marching toward you. it was really, it

was a spectacular. >> had you have you seen one before? >> yeah i >> saw 2017. i was in beatrice, nebraska. there's a national park there and in 2002 i was in south africa along the east coast for another partly cloudy event and it was it's. still spectacular even in, even in the cloud and it goes dark everybody, as you were saying, the clouds in this case actually kinda helped helped us. >> yeah. >> it sees something that i'd never seen before, but overall, you want a clear de i mean, for crying out loud, but it was pretty great here. it was really it was this another thing i talk about all the time is the shared experience. yeah. we were all out there close to 1,000 people from the planetary society sharing this experience, it was really, it was wonderful, it was cool even in new york city, i was at the top of my house and to see people and other buildings out on their roofs and balconies

and stuff. it was one of those moments where you suddenly see your neighbors and wave. it was, it brings people together. do i mean, is there a scientific value and studying clips >> oh, yes, it's a natural coronagraphs simply put, no, by blocking the sun we can or scientists who are skilled with the right instruments can observe the weather around the sun as it's called, where you see all these prominences solar flares coronal mass ejections cmes, around the sun where this material charged material atoms are shot out into space and twisted around by these very powerful magnetic fields. >> and >> so we learn more about the sun. we're learning more about stars. >> and i >> just always like to drop this in when we study stars, we fusion in a controlled way on earth and have fusion power plants would be would be almost

magical if we could pull it off in the next couple of decades. so it's it's one more one more opportunity to collect, collect data about stars, a star that will inform humankind as it understands, as we work to understand our place in space. >> it was also amazed me how fast the eclipse moved across the country, more than 1,500 miles per hour >> yeah. why don't they do something about them? >> no, it's >> the spin of the earth you guys makes this happened and the atmosphere is spinning right along with it and it is just the scale of the thing really is jaw-dropping that how fast it goes across the continent. >> and >> that we live in this one place in the solar system and maybe the one place in the galaxy where the satellite of the planet we live on the moon is just the right size to block

out the sun. so in october we had an annular eclipse as it's called a ring of light around the moon, because the moon was a little farther away. >> he >> thousand kilometers farther away than it was today. but when it's all set up just right in the syzygy, you get the spectacular effect. >> oh, bill nye, thank you so much. we're going to later in the program talk to harry enten, who's up in niagara falls. you may not know this. he's our data guy, but he actually graduated from whether camp when he was as a teenager. so he's going to fill us in yeah. >> go ahead. >> i'm >> all for whether kim yes. >> drawn. >> thanks so much. still to come multiple breaking news stories on the foreign presence, many legal trials first, a judge's decision on whether he can delay his criminal hush money trial set to begin next monday. plus scene is obtained. the actual jury questionnaire also, just moments go. special, counsel jack smith at telling the supreme court to reject the former president's claims of immunity and the election interference case. we have details on that anderson cooper

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nights at seven odd cnn breaking news now and the former president's criminal hush money trial in new york appeals court judge today denied his request to delay the trial, which is scheduled to begin one week from today. that decision only took the judge about 40 minutes after arguments concluded. and we're also learning what perspective jurors will be asked. kara scannell joined just now with the tails. well, i just got this questionnaire is really fascinating. would stands out to you. >> yeah. i mean, there are the basic questions about where do you live in the city? what do you do? where do you get your news? but they're also trying to dig in and root out whether there's any bias here are for or against donald trump. and they do this so they've asked number of questions of have you ever worked for trump? his campaign is administration. have you ever attended any rallies for trump? have you attended any rallies against trump? they're also asking if you belong to any fringe groups they cite. q and on the proud boys, but also and tufa and one question they asked was thought was interesting and really specific to this case is do you have any strong beliefs about whether a former president can be criminally charged in state court because there are these questions about immunity and

about whether the politics of going after a former president. i mean, another thing that is interesting here, the judge made it clear there will be no questions about political contributions, who you voted for, or who you like. because as the judge has said, in reminded the lawyers in his jury questionnaire that the issue here is not to determine whether someone likes trump's or doesn't like trump, but whether they can be fair and impartial. >> so as of now, this trial is happening monday. >> yeah >> this is, uh, go for now. >> judge has ruled against trump. >> yeah. trump's team went to the court today asking them to delay the trial so they can make a motion to challenge the venue because they say new york has been saturated with this story where are you? there has been the e jean carroll trial. there's just a lot in the news and they did a poll of new yorkers in which they say that a lot of people, more than half said that they thought that trump was guilty. now, the prosecution oppose that, saying, there's nowhere you can go to bring this case where people don't know about it. it's an international story it

pushed back and the judge, as you said, ruled pretty quickly afterwards denying this. and it will trump's team try to make another go at the appeals court and another issue remains to be seen >> the foreign prisoners team, they made some emotion about stormy daniels and a subpoena. what does that? >> so there's still trying to enforce some subpoenas that they issue do just last month. one is the stormy daniels. they want to know about any communications she's had about are documentary, any communication she's had was trial witnesses including michael cohen. they've been on podcasts together and also, if she's had communications, what were they with? e jean carroll and two other women who have accused trump of sexual assault. the reason that they argue they need this this is because they're suggesting that there's some potential motive here for stormy daniels to give as they put it, false testimony in order to profit off of this, is they're trying to see what they can learn. >> we want to bring in two former federal prosecutors, elie honig and jessica roth, who's now a professor at the cardozo school of law here in new york >> i'm the jury questionnaire. good. does it? personally i

just talks about proud boys. q and on bug lu boys. and then tufa, it's >> a fascinating documents. so first of all, jury selection is so crucial when you're a prosecutor or defense lh are the stakes are so high, you let one bad juror through, you're going to regret that for a long time. and what the judge in the court is trying to do with this document is suss out any undue biases and it really breaks into a couple parts. one of them is just basically the basics, the biographical basics. what type of job do you do? what's your family situation? but then it gets into without quite asking, how do you feel about donald trump? do you love him or hate him? asking a lot of proxies it's for that, for example, where do you get your news? are you a member of any organizations? and then as qarrah sad or have you been to a trump rally? are you part of any trump email list? it also as have you been a part of any anti-trump organization now, i don't know if democrats count as anti-trump, so there's a little bit of interpretation here but what's going to happen as the jurors will fill out the he's questionnaires and then it's sort of a guessing game as a lawyer, you have a limited

glimpse into a person and based on their answers, you have to surmise just person going to be good for me or bethany the whole case is at stake >> private attorneys will often have jury consultants who sort of analyze jurors, does the state two cities public prosecutors have that? >> well, very, very rarely. >> i mean, it's just not generally done. i don't have any insight into whether they're doing that here, but that would be very rare >> what is the difference? i mean, there they're asking where people get their news, whether they've attended to trump rally. there. the judge is pointing out, and he's saying there are no the question is asking protected george, whom they voted for or intend to vote for whom they've made political contributions to what's the difference if they're trying to get at it this other way? yeah. >> because what their what the judge is trying to >> make clear what the judge is going to be trying to make clear to the potential jurors, is that they're not being asked their political views and they're not being asked which party, if any, they are affiliated sort of being asked that. but what they're really trying to get as can you be a fair and impartial juror in

this particular case where you decide the case based on the evidence and the arguments presented in court as opposed to any bias that you bring in that you wouldn't be able to put aside this is just the beginning these questions because then there will be follow-up with jurors who say, for example, yes, i have attended the rally. then there would be the opportunity for follow-up questions to try to get at whether their attendance at such a rally in some way indicates a bias that would impair their ability to be fair and impartial i'm so. >> say you're gonna get a pretty good sense of who these people are, evil without coming out and asking, but imagine if someone says, i'm a member of the nra, i've attended a trump rally and i primarily watch fox news. imagine someone says, i'm a member of the aclu. i've donated to anti-trump efforts and i primarily watch msnbc. i mean, there will be examples of certainly the latter in manhattan, maybe the former. so some jurors you're gonna have a pretty clear view, but then there's always those jurors who are cagey and you have to just use your instinct >> i mean, are we they're seven days. is there a chance for a venue change still?

>> i mean, at this point before this, judge today, you mean she made the ruling and that's the end of it at this at this court, at this level, i mean, could he go to the higher court of appeals it's a possibility that he could, but there's going to be no more brace before this first level of appeal. >> but if you went to the higher court that could still change something by next monday in theory, but he doesn't have a right to have them here this appeal, it would be discretionary on their part whether they would take it and honestly, on the merits, it's so week that i have a hard time imagining that they would consider it. >> he's going to lose on menu. i loaned you >> think jury selection is going to take so the estimates that we've heard her a week or more, but remember, they're going to have to go through each of these individually mean you have to winnow down hundreds of people down to 12, i would guess, over a week, maybe just over a week it takes longer in state court in federal court, it's also important to know in federal court, we used to pick juries in a day, two days. >> yeah. i mean, this is an extraordinary case for all the reasons we're familiar with one thing i noted in the cover letter that the judge attached to the jury questionnaire is he

if i read it correctly, he's saying to the lawyers from jurors who say, basically, i have a reason, i cannot serve in this case. that he's going essentially excuse them at that point without doing further inquiry because that will really cutting launch, cut down the time that will speed it up. and that was a point of contention at one of the hearings, trump's team initially wanted to pull everyone individually and they started to do that in the trump organization tax fraud trial, a couple of years ago and midway through change, their decision because it was taking and too long. so that seemed to me they were looking to speed it up that way the trump organization trial took about a week to seat the jury, the e jean carroll, which was federal court, took one day. i think the estimate for this is one week and they're only meeting four days that first week and has the carrot has the president's former president's legal team given a sense of what they're for defenses here, i think the main defenses attacking the credibility of some of these witnesses, michael cohen, he is the one person that can testify about the conversation he had with donald trump in the oval

office about the reimbursement. we're not going to hear from alan weisselberg, who was part of that. we will hear from some other trump organization executives, but i think connecting trump to the falsification is where they're probably going to focus a lot and tried to distance trump tough though, to go after the credibility of michael cohen. i mean, there's plenty of reasons grabbed the credibility of michael cohen. but when donald trump had him as his right-hand man, four yeah. >> that'll be exactly the argument, right? he trusted him back that and it's really important to keep mine the crime here is not hush money. it's not a crime to pay hush money. it's falsification. can they tie donald trump to the logging of those payments as legal fees? >> and if specifically the state is arguing that the reason it was illegal was because this was an unlawful undisclosed campaign donation. trump is going to argue, no, it was to protect my marriage. that's why i paid her the money and i imagine that that might be some of the focus of the defense as well at trial. >> just go right. thanks so much. elie honig kara scannell coming up more breaking news in an a new filing with the supreme court has special

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webb telescope. are we alone? >> followed by the two part >> finale of speech? shuttle columbia, the final flight. sunday starting at eight on cnn, or breaking news. now a new filing from special counsel jack smith, who is urging the supreme court to reject former president trump's sweeping immunity claims at the moment, the federal election subversion case against the former president is effectively on hold. the supreme court is set to hear arguments in the case april 25th. cnn's evan perez has the latest so jack smith criticize former president trump's immunity argument is novel and sweeping. what else does he say in this filing? >> that's right, anderson, jack smith says that the president's the former president's claim to have this broad immunity has no basis in the constitution in certainly it doesn't have any basis in the nation's history and in the principle that no one, including precedence is above the law region, just part of what this 60 plus page filing from the special counsel also says. they say he wrote he says the president's constitutional duty to take care that the laws

be faithfully executed does not entail a general right to violate them. he goes on to say, the framers never endorsed criminal immunity for a former president and all presidents from the founding two the modern era have known that after leading, leaving office, they faced potential criminal liability for official acts. now, former president trump anderson has claimed that if this prosecution is allowed to go forward, this is going to impair the presidency forever, including all former president's and jack smith pushes back against that argument here. i'll read you just another part of this. the petitioner is charged with crimes that if proved at trial, reflect an unprecedented assault on the structure of our government, the effective functioning of the presidency does not require that a former president be immune from accountability for these alleged relations of federal criminal law. to the contrary, a bedrock principle of our constitutional order is that no person is above the law

including the president anderson. we also see a lot of push back here from the idea that this case should be sort of put on hold and sent back to the courts for more for hearings. jack smith is saying that the courts have already handled a lot of the questions that are at issue here. >> and just remind people that timeline in this case >> well, the timeline the supreme court is now hearing this, but if you remember, jack smith had asked them to take a look at this and consider this back in december so the fact that we are here now, we're going to hear, we're going to have the oral arguments on april 25th that means that we may not here we might not have a final decision from the supreme court until july, which is when we expect that their term will end. anderson all right, everyone. thanks. joining me now to break it down, the special counsel's lay just filing is former republican congressman adam kinzinger, who served on the house january 6 committee and former federal prosecutor, jeffrey toobin, read something

else from jack smith's filing. he wrote federal criminal law applies the president petitioner suggests that unless a criminal statute expressly names the president the statute does not apply that radical suggestion which would free the president from virtually all criminal law, even crime such as bribery, murder, treasonous addition is unfounded. do you think that's enough for this report? >> i think the broad trump claim that he is absolutely immune from all criminal charges relating to when he was president. that's never going to win that that is not at tenable argument and i think jack smith's argument, there makes it makes it pretty clear. the problem for the government, the problem for the justice department, jack smith here is this idea that there may be some areas of presidential conduct that are in fact off limit and the district court has to have a hearing to decide whether this case implicates that that would delay this trial well, into next year and

you could tell in reading the government's brief that they're concerned about that the issue was a remand send get back to the district court for more hearings. that's the real worry here for the prosecution. not that somehow trump is going to win and became the supreme court just decide, instead of it being sent back for raman. >> yes, that's what that's what smith is asking them to do. he's saying, look, just let this trial proceed. and that's what the dc circuit, the intermediate appeals court decided that they're don't have to be any more hearings. this case can just go that's what smith wants. the supreme court to do, but he's clearly worried that they are going to ask for more hearings before they let the case go to trial. >> congressman, the special counsel's team also references a piece of illegal hello, logic. the most high school history students could probably follow, which is president gerald ford would not have pardon former president richard nixon after watergate, if a prosecution wasn't a possibility, do you think the supreme court will care about that? >> yeah. i mean, i think look, i think this is going to be if

it doesn't get remanded, it's going to get like dismissed out of hand nine or eight, one >> but >> let's look at the politics of this. so the gerald ford example is really important. secondly, we fought a revolution against the british because we believe that no person is above the law. we were against having a monarchy rule us. that's untouchable and taxation without representation. >> the >> other thing that's interesting here is the same guy, the defendant, donald trump, who was saying that he has absolute immunity from everything is still out there at every speech talking about the laws that so the so-called laws that are being broken by joe biden, which of course there's no evidence of. but you can't on the one hand, say that a president has absolute immunity. and on the other hands say that the president of the united states, joe biden, is violating laws where he needs to be locked up or all this kind of stuff. it's

asinine, but that goes to the whole point here. the whole point is not to argue deep legal theory and not to get an answer of deep legal theory >> it's to >> stall and delay so that donald i'm trump and his mine hopefully wins. and then he can direct the department of justice to dismiss this case and they will because they will be under his direction >> as part of their argument for immunity, trump's attorneys, they've been arguing there are pointing to the fact that no president has ever faced criminal charges on his official official acts and jack smith addresses this writing, the absence of any prosecutions of former president's until this case does not reflect the understanding that presidents are immune from criminal liability. and instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct is essentially saying there just hasn't been a former president like trump exactly. and the fact back that no other president has tried to overturn an election in which he lost doesn't mean that you get a free pass when you

actually do try to overturn the i mean, the idea that donald trump is different, that this conduct is different from any other president, former president is at the heart of this case. and the idea that because trump has done something so novel and so awful that he gets away with it is something that i don't think the supreme court is really going to buy. >> and congressman your former january >> 6 colleague, liz cheney said, are your january 6 committee i'll said recently that is very important. members of the supreme court recognized trump is just trying to run out the clock and not allow them to do that. do you think the court should take the timeline of the case into account? >> what really think they do? they should personally because look, this is going to be obviously very important for the structure of the nation. the other thing is, the president has gotten a lot of consideration that a regular defendant and not just on the immunity issue, wouldn't get i think it is something they should now should they rushed the judgment? not necessarily

we have to make sure this is done fairly and donald trump gets his due course to litigate this in the law >> but you >> also have to recognize that this is very important stuff for a country that's about to make a very important decision. and it's, it's clear. and i think justices have to look at just the lt. here. it's clear that what donald trump is trying to do is utilize them to buy time simply to get passed on election. and then frankly, if he wins, it doesn't matter what happens after that when he just simply directs doj to drop the case. >> it is kind of amazing. clarence thomas is going to be weighing in on this, whose wife was involved on january 6, unbelievable unbelievable, i mean, the idea that someone whose wife was intimately involved and still a believer that but she's entitled to believe any xing scene she wants and she's entitled to exercise their first amendment rights in any way she wants but it creates the impression when

your husband is evaluating some of the same conduct you were you as the wife. we're advocating. it's it's unbelievable. and just the fact that he hasn't recused himself yet. it just shows how we are becoming immune to use a phrase from this egregious conflict of interest that thomas has, but there is no oversight over the supreme court. there is no binding ethics court code on the supreme court. so other than impeachment, there's nothing anyone can do to clarence thomas tobin. thanks so much, congressman kinzinger. thank you. coming up next. why? four and president trump's latest statement on abortion has been met with criticism from pro-life groups and members of his own party that's next >> cracked windshield schedule would say flight and will come to you to fix this customer was enjoying her morning what we texted her when we were on our way, and she could track us and see exactly when we derive a few we came to her with service that fifth the first sketch we

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>> anderson cooper 360, weeknight today on cnn erin burnett, outfront week nights at seven odd cnn for president trump today made what maybe his >> clearest statement yet on where he stands on abortion, conservatives have called on him to support a federal nationwide ban, but that is not what he did in this video posted online. >> my view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint the states will determine by vote or legislation, or perhaps both and whatever they decide must be the law of the land in this case the law of the state. many states will be different. many will have a different number of weeks or some will have more conservative than others. and that's what they will be at the end of the day. this is all about the will of the people now this follows a brief flirtation with supporting a 15 week federal ban with exceptions carved for incest and rape or when the life of

the mother is in danger. republican candidates run the country have at times struggled to stake out a position on the issue following the supreme court's overturning of roe v. wade back in 2022 a ruling that the former president says, he quote proudly responsible for the foreign presence video statement drew condemnation today from his own former vice president mike pence, who called it a slap in the face of the pro-life americans who voted for their ticket in 2016 and 2020 republican in south carolina, senator lindsey graham suggested that he respectfully disagreed with the former president president, and the organization susan b. anthony, pro-life america released a statement saying in part, we are deeply disappointed and present trump's position on social media. mr. trump hit back at his critics on the right, suggesting their hardline stance for a federal ban would only provide a boost for democrats in the november election, you rights people forget fighting roe v. wade was right from the beginning all about bringing the issue back to the states pursuant to the 10th amendment and state's rights wasn't about anything else and quote, you went on to say the democrats would never give up on this issue no matter how many weeks the republicans went, even if they went

unlimited abortion now it's worth pointing out that foreign president's believes that abortion should be left to the states, is just the latest in his evolving view on the issue, keeping them honest on that. here's our randy k donald trump staked out his first public position on abortion in april of 1989, when he co-sponsor to dinner at the plaza >> hotel in manhattan for the president of a national group that advocates for abortion rights then more than a decade later in 1999 on nbc's meet the press, trump defended his position, doubling down on it. >> i'm very pro-choice. i hate the concept of abortion. i hate it. i hate everything it stands for. i cringe when i listened to people debating the subject but you still i just believe in choice. >> but you would not ban it? >> no as the years passed and trump grew more serious about running for president, his position on abortion flipped. this was him at cpac, the conservative political action conference in 2011 i'm pro-life

>> i'm against gun control by then, trump was opposed to abortion rights in a cnn interview in june 2015, even trump himself seemed >> momentarily confused about where he stood on the issue. >> i know you're opposed to abortion, right? i'm pro-choice. your your poor choice for proline. >> i'm pro life. i'm pro-life later in 2015 at a gop presidential primary debate, trump was asked why his position on the issue changed since 1999 he explained he'd quote evolved what happened is friends of mine years ago, we're going to have a child and it was going to be a boarded and it wasn't a boarded. and that child today is a total superstar, a great, great child. and i saw that and i saw other instances the following year in 2016. >> i'm willing to put i'm

pro-life. the judges will be pro-life as recently as may last year, trump was still noncommittal about what exactly glia national abortion ban might look like if he were elected again, let's talk portion band. you did not say yes or no to that >> depends what the deal is done. right? >> in february trump's signaling he was open to, uh, 15 week federal ban with exceptions for cases of rape, incest. and when the life of the mother is in danger. >> now, people are agreeing on 15, and i'm thinking in terms of that, i'll make that announcement at the appropriate time. >> that announcement when it came today, marked trump's latest attempt to thread this political needle randi kaye, cnn, palm beach, florida, join mao is seen as audie cornish host of the assignment podcast what do you make of his latest positioning? >> well, he's consistent and that he believes and winning elections and he said in the

statement very explicitly that that's what he thinks needs to be the concern now and has lashed out at the anti-abortion critics who have gone after him for the things that went unsaid in the statement, right? not saying he'd sign a national ban for existed for example. so i think that he needs to take the credit for the end of roe v. wade, but he doesn't want to take credit for the fallout, which in some 11 elections since 11 or 12, democrats have seen gains because people feel like things have gone too far in their state a skeptic would say, well what's just stop him from changing is his views as soon as he gets into office, that essentially he says what he >> needs to at the time in order to get elected. >> i also want to broaden the conversation in that it's actually not just about a band, yes or no. right now, you have i've anti-abortion activists who are very much seeking to end. let's say getting abortion pills by mail. if you

had a trump appointed chief of the fda, maybe he would be supportive of that. he or she, right? >> there's also >> something called the comstock law, which talks about mailing things again, obscene materials there are all kinds of executive actions and orders that a trump administration would be very much four, because they are things that they did before biden comes in, makes changes again, and trump has promised to roll back all kinds of executive actions so there are all kinds of funding and rules that you don't need congress for. you don't need the supreme court for that. he can affect and most likely will. >> do you think the pushback from groups, from lindsey graham, from antiabortion groups do you think that that has an impact on trump? yeah. i mean, my dad cynical view is that he cares very much about what they think and that's why

he's lashing back. my cynical view is by having these groups basically say trump, you won't go as far as us. he gets to turn to the rest of america and say, see, i not extreme, i'm not them, i'm not going to push you that far even though it's hard to see him saying, oh, the florida than at six weeks. that's about to take place in may, which is before most women know they're pregnant, shouldn't go into effect, right? we haven't heard him say something like that. we haven't heard him talk about any of these the laws have gone into effect and say, that's too far. and so i think he it helps him to have a conversation that makes him look like he's somewhat near the middle, even though inaction we know that he's not he also seem to come out supporting ivf, which again is it's a huge issue and one that a lot on the right do not agree with >> i mean, obviously, i think the minute that ruling happened

out of alabama, you had a lot of republicans saying, wait a second, what are you guys doing? but the truth is, while they have momentum anti-abortion activists are going to go after things that that follow in line with the overall ideology, which would be life begins at conception. and if that's the case, yes, ivf is vulnerable conception itself. contraception is vulnerable. there's a lot of policy that follows this thinking. >> and >> what we haven't heard trump or anyone in a circle say, say from project 20-25, these people who are preparing for a trump second term, we haven't heard them say that's too far. right. >> so i think that what will help people is if they listened to him speak in totality because it is still very extreme and i want to say one footnote, which is that even in his speeches, he's continued to repeat, the falsehood that democrats want to do abortions after the baby is born. he said this multiple times and still

says it and set it in this statement as well. so there are all of these breadcrumbs write that reveal where this is going even if it's designed to make you feel like it's a gentler, softer, squishier conversation that it is. >> rick cornish. thank you so much. thank you. might remember for better or worse are harry enten a whether camp graduate i might add to spent last week trying to teach me about the eclipse. i don't know if you saw that our adi yeah. now that big moment is finally happen. we're going to check in with harry from his reporting posts in niagara for falls to see how things went up there very eager to find out >> eclipse across america brought to you via miracle grow, grow like martha i spent a lot of time thinking about dirt at three in the morning and you try what people don't know. is that not? all der is the same. you need dirt with the right kind of nutrients. look at this new organic soil

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eclipse. as you can see, they attracted a lot of people to look at the sky next to a horseshoe falls or harry enten the former whether camp attending he was there, he joins us now, while you've got a hard hat on. so harry, how was it you know, i am sick and tired of everyone saying the eclipse was so amazing. we came here to western new york i've been here for five days. we just can't catch a freaking break up bills lost the chiefs and the division around. and today, it was pure clouds. if we did not really get a true eclipse it's only magically at the last moment it went dark, but we didn't actually get to see the moon cover over the sun. >> you didn't see anything. >> i can't believe you all it is is you just see it go dark. that's really all that we saw at the white because there was covered in clouds. clouds it was all >> clouds the entire day. it was sunny yesterday. it was sunny saturday, just our luck. it was cloudy today derrick van dam gets to see a gosh darn proposal in front of him. what we get is gosh darn clouds

covering the entire event. i got to tell you, harry, i just went up in my roof and i saw a really pretty cool we'll eclipse in new york city. you shouldn't just say, of course. >> of course, then you invite me to that roof. maybe i wouldn't have had the i wouldn't have to come out to let's the new york to see clouds. i could've been on your roof with you enjoying it. >> this is just a yet another reason why you should never leave new york city you know, i think that's exactly right. this is the reason why should never leave new york city. it was the reason i'd never been to canada before, although i should say a lot of your viewers think that i should be joining canada. maybe you and i can we go together to canada? it can be my first experience north of the border in canada is one of the greatest countries in the world that the people who are so incredibly nice, there was so is there one experience? big tech, any takeaway from this? we only got a few seconds left >> yeah, i think my big experience in here is what you just said, stay in new york and less than two let's now go into canada because the truth has any time i leave the city, only bad things happen. >> all rig