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washington. we begin with new developments out of israel where the israeli military has as released a preliminary report on its killing of seven aid workers in gaza. the investigation finds a series of

devastating mistakes unfolded earlier this week when three vehicles carrying the world central kitchen workers traveled outside the combat zone those vehicles were hit in three separate strikes over the course of almost a mile and a half israel says it was a case of mistaken identification after two gunman were spotted nearby, quoting from the report, one of the commanders, the israeli say mistakenly assumed that the gunman were located inside the accompanying vehicles and that they these were hamas terrorist. the idf has fired two senior officers. i want to bring in cnn's nic robertson are international diplomatic editor nick, does the report answer all the questions? >> it still seems to leave some questions outstanding. for example, the world central kitchen said that they were in coordination with the idf, that they were following the protocols that the idf outlines for them to do. so, in which case, why does the idf report say that? the commanders in charge of firing at these three

suvs. why did they not understand that these suvs were associated with the world central kitchen? well the initial indications from the idf indicate that this was happening at night and they couldn't see the identification on the vehicle but that doesn't really get to that central issue. if there was coordination why did they not realize that? how would they not sort of temur those pieces of information up? another point that doesn't seem to be answered here is if the idf had spotted gunman on the trucks, that aid trucks easily the big trucks before they went into the convoy. how can they link the suv's carrying the aid workers later on specifically with the with hamas. now, the idf's separate briefing to reporters, they said they thought they had spotted something look like a weapon over the shoulder one of the people in those vehicles that they slater decided was

actually a bag. so it doesn't there's that piece of detail that hasn't been fully explained. the idf has said that what happened happened outside of their rules of engagement, which is why they've disciplined officials, but we don't know what the ids rules let's of engagement are they don't make those public and they have said that the rules of engagement change in different situations. so there's still a lot of questions to be answered here, jim >> and they're just quick follow-up. how is the world central kitchen responding? >> yeah. they're saying look, the fact that the idf has exactly responsibility has said that they were following the protocols that they should have been following the fact that the idea has taken disciplinary action against a major and a kernel reserve kernel. they say is a step. but for these outrageous killings they say, the reports so far is cold comfort plus the world central kitchen say they were shown a video by the idf that was

intended to support what the idf has talked about gunman on the trucks, the world central kitchen, say the video that they've seen that they'd been shown how they'd been shown it so far. >> it's not they can't see what the idf is telling them in that about the gunman. they don't get it. so they don't think the video is explanation of what's in the report either >> all right. now, nic robertson, thank you very much. we really appreciate it and joining us now is tall heinrich, spokeswoman for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, tile. thank you very much for being here. how do you respond to the criticism that this report does not fully explain what happened >> well, thank you for having beyond this morning, jim, i think this was a preliminary report. that preliminary preliminary assessment, and we will have to wait for the final findings of this investigation. you see this? i think it's a matter drove days, weeks, it's not a matter of months >> and when we do >> something wrong, when there's a mistake made on our

behalf on israel side, we take responsibility, we say the truth, we admit things, even when it's the most painful, inconvenient truth to admit that i think people have, have to remember that that was a very, very tragic incidents involving the unsung heroes of world central kitchen is one of my colleagues calls them unsung heroes of armed conflict >> it should not have >> happened, and we should draw the right conclusions and implement lessons in order for this knots to reoccur and already i can tell you that we've set up a situation room for better coordination between the idf and these eight groups on the ground, because there are doing the all-important work. >> and this >> specific organization, by the way, they were one of the first ones to show up right after october 7, being there on the ground or civilians on both sides of the border? >> yeah, until the convoy was marked with the logos of the world central kitchen and world central kitchen says it was coordinating its movements with

the idf. how could your forces make such a grave mistake as your government has described it? >> well, mistakes you see mistakes, tragedies happen during wars and it's not a war that we wanted. it's not a war that we started you and i would not have been having this conversation. if hamas had not invaded our country with their army of terrorist on october 7, that is very, very unfortunate, but you know, and you come conflicts around the world. i believe we're us forces have been involved and mistakes tragically yet they, they do happen, but we have to draw the right lessons to make sure that they don't happen again and i do want to ask you about the humanitarian corridors that are being opened up, your government has announced that in a phone call yesterday, president biden, though, did deliver a stark warning to the prime minister saying, taking, they need to take steps. the israelis do to ease the humanitarian crisis in gaza or risk losing us support. and i did want to ask you a specific question about that. is israel pledging to not only open up

these corridors that you've announced, but also to assure that they are safe enough for aid workers to do what they do. are you going to make that pledge? >> well, you see let me first less than the number of steps that we have decided upon a war cabinet convened a yesterday and the end of the meeting a few more steps were announced. we decided that we will enable the temporary insertion of humanitarian aid through the maritime fourth in ashdod, the erez border crossing, which is a pedestrian crossing in the northern part of the gaza strip. and it was stormed by these terrorists on october 7, as well as an increase of the jordanian aid. the humanitarian assistance that will continue to be facilitated via the kerem shalom. >> i think it's a mournful for viewers to understand that there's more food trucks entering gaza. now, daily, then before the war, so aid is

flowing into gaza, 240 trucks today, yesterday, the day before a couple of hundred trucks a day were talking about more than a quarter million tons of food we just right. >> but my question my question is about the safety of these workers, nearly 200 humanitarian aid workers have been killed in gaza since the war began. as israel had a policy of shooting first and asked him, i don't know. >> again, i don't know about these numbers. i i don't know about these numbers. i don't know where are you taking them from but again, i don't have these numbers are numbers that are coming from gaza, which i don't i take with a grain of salt, but again, specifically talking about this incident, we should do everything in our power to make sure that anything nothing of this kind will ever read the, of course, so this is why we set up the situation room for better coordination. and of course there's a lot of focus on that too, because you mentioned the phone call washington and jerusalem. we do want the same things. we want to see hamas eliminated. we want to see all

hostages returning home and he gaza, they will never pose a terror threat to israel again. and while we're working towards these goals, we want to see minimal civilian suffering, minimal collateral damage in gaza, which of these would you say would you >> say that there has been minimal tall, would you say that they're just objectively speaking, there hasn't been minimal civilian suffering. there has been great civilian suffering isn't that right? well, this is a war that we didn't start and we didn't want and the civilian suffering, i you miss the second part of my sentence that these are two things that come must continuously seeks to increase because this is what their entire strategy gym and you knowing very well is based upon de that is the will take the fire for their vial actions. and as international pressure will be used as leverage on israel instead of on the asking about their day to carry out another tall or seventh mass? yeah. >> i hear what you're saying and we have covered all of that

extensively, but you have said and your government is so do you want to make sure hamas never rules again in gaza? i do want to ask you if you can explain the fact that your government allowed the funding of hamas for years. we can show our viewers this story in the new york times. it says quote, for years the qatari government had been sending millions of dollars into the gaza strip. money that helped prop up the hamas government primary mr. benjamin netanyahu of israel, not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them, shouldn't the prime minister be held accountable for encouraging the funding of hamas? >> let's set the record straight here. >> money that went into gaza, if it's from the palestinian authority, if it's money from qatar was meant for the benefit of the civilians of gaza. there's no illusion in israel, not of the prime minister, not of andy wanted endo was no illusion about hamas even prior to a over seventh, the prime minister in 2005 year resigned after the gaza disengagement to act in back then, he said that hamas was running, hamas was

running gaza. he had to know that the money was going to go to with it. >> but if hamas was a tall, if >> hamas was running gaza than he had to know that money was essentially flowing to hamas whether it was going to go to civilians or whatever >> let me i hear your concern about money from qatar, but, you know, let's let's talk about us taxpayer money that went to the palestinians for, you know, throughout the years one, two, unwra, and eventually ended up inciting tara and and building these terror towels as well in the terror infrastructure >> united states, you have to focus on the blending of the past is that what are you saying? >> i'm just saying that >> right. well, i'm asking i'm asking you about the prime minister authorizing this money going to hamas essentially and all i'm saying there would be accountability notion i'm talking about the general

notion here that any kind of money that was meant to the benefit of the palestinian people, no metric at word came from eventually went to funding terrorism, inciting the murdering of the jewish people and prime minister know who hamas was. >> the main impediment if he's now, did he make a bad bet segall make a bad bet. he knew who hamas was. he knew they were capable of there was one your government prior to october 7 this is why i was saying that moving forward learning from past mistakes, we should all >> demand that any kind of reconstruction of gaza should be intertwined with deradicalization of the palestinian society because we can't have money going to fund terrorism yeah >> all right. towel heinrich. i hope we can continue this discussion. thank you very much for your time this morning. we appreciate it >> thank you

>> and i want to discuss born out with cnn military analysts and retired lieutenant general mark hertling, he's the former commanding general of the us army, europe and seventh army general hurtling thanks so much i'm sure for being with us. i do want to try if we can to get to the bottom of how this happened. and i know we can't do it in this hour, but let's give it a try. i want to put up a map. we were shown to our viewers yesterday of the strikes on the three world central kitchen vehicles. these vehicles were almost a mile and a half of part one clearly how a bright world central kitchen logo on the top of the car, although the idf says they couldn't see it because it was dark. a weapons expert told cnn that the operation would have included use of a surveillance drone general the idf is saying that they miss identified these vehicles as being associated with hamas because of, based on quote, gunman that they thought they saw around these vehicles. what do you make of the explanations you're hearing so far from the israeli government about this

>> a couple of things, jim, first of all, i miss heinrich is correct and this is the first time i've heard this, that this is a preliminary report. i said yesterday that if the israeli government was going to put out a complete report on this incident within days. it was probably going to miss quite a few things and she cleared, clarified that the comment about the markings of the world central kitchen vehicles on the top and on the sides i disagree with your expert who says that a surveillance drone should have picked get up you don't pick up anything like that at nighttime with a surveillance drone or an aircraft. >> so >> that that is there's been a lot made of that it's really even difficult to see those kind of markings during a de by a jet or a drone yeah, it's just too much of an instance in two small of a marking having said that, though, you can take a look at the destruction of the vehicles, those were in my view, 99% sure they were conducted by a drone strike because of indicators like a

hole in the roof as opposed to an explosion which would have caused the vehicle the completely be destroyed and thrown off the side of the road. here's a whole group and then it burned inside. that tells me it was a low yield weapon meant to assassinate who was ever inside those vehicles. it's a different kind of weapon. thirdly, the distance that's being cited. the 1.4 to 1.8 kilometers that the convoy travelled. that's understandable. if there if this was true julio target. i said yesterday, jim, that having run targeting cells that actually go after terrorists like that, you look at a couple of things. you look at it. first of all, the cell is going to look at the intelligence they receive, the type of target it's going to be, how fast they have to engage the target. and then there's the communication between the lawyer pearson are checking it out. the target tears the intelligence people that commanders it, say pull the trigger, and then the process of actually having the weapon hit whatever it's aimed at so

all of those areas have the potential for destruction >> and >> that's a problem with looking into something like this. >> yeah, in general, i mean, the world central kitchen also said they were coordinating their movements with the idf i mean, do those do those deconfliction heads up? i guess you could call them. do they go far enough >> yeah well, they certainly should, jim and i again, with experience, i had organizations non-governmental organizations that coordinated with my headquarters in combat it said, here's what we're going to do. and you watched those close, you are, you should i don't know what the disconnect was. again, it has to do with either the intelligence the target hears, or the coordination of the actual movement in those moments, you also have to say, we're going to be here to there during this certain amount of time. so if there's any delay in that or if there are indicators that a non-government organization has terrorists within the convoy

then it kind of opens up the aperture a little bit on how you judge it. all of those things as ms heinrich says, are elements of combat. but unfortunately, this one was somewhat dramatic and it should be investigated to its fullest along with some of the other strikes that israel's can just very quickly to follow up the dismissals of these two commanders. is that go far enough? do you think >> no, i don't think so but again, i don't know what the investigation shows. this this is more than just decision making. as i said, the different processes of a targeting so from intel collection to targeting to coordination, to lawyer saying something yes or no, then the commander saying the pull it, pull the trigger. there could have been disconnects in any one of those processes. i just don't know. and again, this is why i said i'll report like this an inquiry into a strike like this doesn't take a couple of days to conduct it takes as ms heinrich says, probably weeks to really

determine the different elements that contributed to this. and i would suggest there's probably more that culpable in this particular attack. >> all right. general mark hertling, i wish we had more time, but we'll bring you back and can continue this conversation. general. thanks a lot for the time this morning. appreciate it i appreciate it. >> all right. our coverage of the fallout of the idf report on the world central kitchen strike continues. i'll be joined by democratic congressman walking castro of texas. he sits on the intelligence and foreign affairs committees to get his take on all of this. that's >> anderson cooper 360 tonight at eight on cnn lactate is 100% real melt just without the lactose delicious to just ask my old friend kevin. >> nothing like and join a coal one while watching the game. >> who's willing? >> we are my friend. we are >> merely to turn off the alarm >> amelia, whether reasons

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officers after investigating the strikes that killed seven aid workers earlier this week, israel's blaming the strikes on quote, mistaken identification. let's discuss worn out with democratic congressman joaquin castro of texas. he serves on the house intelligence and foreign affairs committees congressman, good morning. thanks so much as you know, the white house, it does appear that they were able to extract something from the israelis. there's gonna be the opening of this erez crossing. does that go far enough? did the white house get enough out of the israelis after this terrible tragedy earlier this week i'm glad to see that president biden has gotten tougher with prime minister netanyahu and his cabinet and his administration. and the opening of that erez crossing is important for humanitarian assistance. but to your question about whether it goes far enough hey clearly doesn't and hit called early on in october for a ceasefire, october 17, myself, along with several others because both in

classified and unclassified briefings, i saw it was becoming clear two things first, israel's actions were not leading to the release of hostages. in fact, that didn't happen until there was a temporary ceasefire. and so a ceasefire actually worked to get hostages released. but also, it was becoming clear that there was intentional denial of humanitarian aid and to put a greater point on it they were intentionally starving people and there was also what look like the development of indiscriminate targeting of palestinians in gaza. and that has happened throughout the months ambulance ambulances, ambulance convoys, hospitals, civilians, we saw some of that footage that was released of civility billions being targeted and now all of this is crystallized in the tragedy of the world central kitchen aid workers of being killed either indiscriminately

and i certainly hope not intentionally. but there's gotta be a full investigation and an independent investigation. on exactly what happened >> yeah. congressman, i did want to ask you about that. i mean, the idf is blaming this on mistaken identification. but when you talk to the folks over the world, central kitchen and they've been saying this pretty loudly since what took place they had logos on their vehicles. they were coordinating with the idf do you are you buying the explanations that are coming out of the idf right now? >> i think when you consider it in the larger context of how the idf has acted and how they how they have treated palestinians in terms of indiscriminate targeting, that it becomes very difficult to believe especially when world central kitchen and jose andres, it's a well more well-known organization that it's worked in hostile places before that is used to coordinating with governments. and so it's still hard to

believe that they were somehow mistaken for another group but and that's that's why you need an independent investigation >> and congressman, just a few moments ago, i was speaking with a spokesman for the israeli government and she appeared to put some of the blame on the united states for delivering assistance to the palestinians over the years, even though the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, it's been reported by numerous outlets. had authorized money to flow from the qatari to hamas for a while before october 7. for years, it's been described in some reporting and it's the israeli government seems to be saying, well, the united states had a hand in this too because they were supporting palestinians in gaza. what did you think of that? >> yeah i mean i i disagree and the united states priorities when it comes to israel and

gaza are palestinians have been a few things first, peace and stability in the region. a second for the palestinians, at least. we wanted to make sure that they had enough humanitarian aid and that requires resources in order to do uh, you don't want people starving in mass. you don't want people dying of dehydration over the years. and so we have helped provide that, but we've also in our policies over the years, tried to move both sides. we're going back to the table and agreeing to a two-state solution obviously that has failed because we're not anywhere right now near a two-state solution that, but that's the spirit that the united states has operated in and i got chance to hear a part of your interview and your questions about prime minister netanyahu. and allowing the money from the qataris and one of the things that prime minister netanyahu has done is he's made statements, friends since the 1970s about being

against a two-state solution. and so he was often playing hamas against the palestinian authority, so that neither one would have the political power are support to really demand and call four and make happen a two-state solution and so i think the united states has to play a lead role in getting these sides back to the table. and i know that director burns and cia and others have been working on this, but get them back towards that two-state solution. if that is possible. >> all congressman joaquin castro. thank you very much. hope to have you back soon. a lot of other issues we want to tackle, but time is tight, but thanks for your time. we appreciate me to be with you. we'll be right back. thank you.

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3636 called now lauren fox on capitol hill. >> and this is cnn >> cnn breaking news >> this is seen and breaking news right now. and just to tell you what we're hearing, the latest out of new york, the tri-state area that an earthquake was felt in new york and the surrounding areas, where we understand from a the us geological survey and the last several minutes that they have initially measured the earthquake to be about 4.8 on the richter scale. we're at right now trying to scramble teams in new york city and the surrounding area, as well as our weather centered atlanta to get some folks on camera as soon as they can to talk to us about this. but if you talk to people in the new york city area you see that there are people who are describing what they felt as tremors and just the last several minutes, at

least, rafah is in the cnn weather center and elisa 4.8 magnitude earthquake that is that's enough for folks to feel. what can you tell us >> it is >> and it is >> enough for folks to feel it. and i'm actually from new york, so i may way down to the studio. i called my mom to be like, did you feel it? and she said that then my parents are in staten island and she said that she did feel the shaking of the earthquakes and refer friends even had some china dishes that were the shaking on the shelves and falling too. so yes, definitely felt in new york city for sure, 4.8 magnitude on the richter scale is pretty significant, especially for this area that's not quite that used to earthquakes, right? >> how does >> seven point magnitude earthquake in taiwan? that's in kind of ground zero in the heart of seismic activity where they're used to it these people here in new york, i can tell you are not used to it, so they definitely felt that shaking the depth is pretty shallow, which is also why people would feel the shaking,

right the center of the quake now that far down. so that's where they're going to feel it as well. so yes, right now, it also again, looks like it was in the heart of central new jersey, north central new jersey right there. so again, felt in new york also heard from some family friends. i felt it even up into connecticut as well. >> so no word yet on damage. the weather team, their producers are working on getting information on that graphics and things like that so this is what we've got for you so far, 4.8 magnitude earthquake with that shallow, shallow depth there in new york city, or at least in new jersey and felt in new york city? an op into connecticut and like i said, my mom was saying that she had friends and family that have things that were shaking round and falling off of shelves that they have all been kind of scattering to be like, what was that? >> yeah, it wasn't just your mom no. i mean have been

tweeting about this. guys. if you're seeing an employee feel feel free to call in. but andrew kaczynski yard can't drew because minsky just tweeted. did anyone else just feel an earthquake and there are several other folks who were saying the same thing. and elisa, i mean, how significant is this? i remember when we have the dc earthquake, was about ten or 12 years ago. it was significant enough for there to be cracks in the washington monument and the national cathedral. and it caused a huge mess. it was extremely rare. i have to assume maybe i'm this is an area where i'm gonna get something wrong hang on live tv. are we along the same fault line? am i stumping the weather? a meteorologists by asking you that kind of a question. are we talking about a different fault line in that area? i have to think this is rare up in the tri-state area >> it definitely is rare, you know, the new york city area doesn't really have like classic fault line. like i said, like california and dies or like southeast asia dies,

right? like it's not like that classic place that you would expect earthquakes like this, >> but >> it can happen and it has jim, did you feel it in dc? did it make it that far to you guys or or no, not not quite well. >> i can see that the magnitude has just been updated to 4.7 right behind you, lisa and we're going to continue to follow this we're going to take a quick break. we're going to gather ourselves and see if we can find any in our bureau in. new york who could talk to us on qarrah. maybe that tower cam is there a way to rewrite that tower can video, we could see if it was just a few moments. we're going to try to get all of that for you. just a few moments. they went for granted

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>> welcome back. we're breaking news and earthquake has hit a west of manhattan in new york. the governor of new york, kathy hochul just posted this a few moments ago. she says a 4.8 magnitude earthquake hit west of manhattan has been felt throughout new york she says, my team is assessing impacts in any damage that may have occurred. we will update the public throughout the day. we should note the us there. >> but i want to go to ini believe we have on the phone right now, andrew kaczynski. are investigative reporter. andrew doesn't take any investigating to figure out

what's going on here. what did you feel? >> yeah. so i was in my bedroom with my toddler as one does on a friday and we felt first thing kind of thought i was going crazy because i looked and mirror was shaking saif as it's moving around a little bit, never experienced an earthquake before and i was yeah, i thought i was going nuts a little bit, but then what what did i do immediately went on twitter and saw about 3,000 other people tweeted good that they asked if they felt an earthquake two. >> yeah. >> andrew, i mean, what did it feel like? how long did it last? >> i mean, what did it? >> bother the toddler at all? hope hope the little ones. okay >> oh, yes. jim, we have we survived new york city earthquake. we're doing okay. >> my >> toddler just jumping onto that literally. did not notice a thing. i think it may be less than what, a few seconds

around. yeah. you know few seconds. >> and >> then we're just immediately like, what was that as we haven't experienced something like that before. >> got it and no damage nothing fell off a shelf or anything like that? >> nothing. so as the shelf know, i'm trying to look now. everything looks in place >> got it. okay. hey, andrew, thanks for calling in you win the prize first reported or beyond standby ready for us. we appreciate it. let me go to jason carroll, who's in new york jason the andrew be just by a smidge, but thank you for jumping in there. and helping us out here. and i don't want to make light of because i'm sure this word, folks a little bit there for a few seconds. what happened? were you in the bureau? did you feel this tell us? >> well, full disclosure, jim, i'm from california, so first of all, i'm used to feeling earthquakes. i was on the 18th floor with my colleagues at my computer and the computer monitors started moving just

ever so slightly and to be honest, i didn't have breakfast this morning and i thought am i i lightheaded and my about to faint or something? and for a split second, i thought, are we having an earthquake at and i thought this just cannot be walk out of my office. i see my colleague jean casarez and she says, i think we just had an earthquake and then of course, all the producers started gathering around and it quickly became evident to us that we had experience here instead, it real quick here in new york city, not the first time several years ago, i think you remember we had another slight earthquake in the new york city area. i remember feeling that that's when we were over at a different location here just to let your viewers know, we are at a place called hudson hudson yards. it's on the very west side of new york city, right up against the river there we are on the 18th floor and we could feel it. i mean, once again, it lasted for several seconds. again, i'm from california, so we are people like us. we're

accustomed to feeling things like this not accustomed to feeling it in a place like new york city. so i had to sort of check myself and think, yes, this is an earthquake that we are experiencing and i have to say, you know, and james a four-point seven is not is not instant insignificant. i mean, that you're going to feel that you definitely are going to feel that, i mean, again, when you're from a place like california a magnitude 4.64, 0.7 isn't going to rattle nerves if you will. but in a place like new york city, most definitely all right. >> and jason, i mean, how did how did folks around you react to this? i mean was it did everybody sort of have the same feeling at the same time like, oh, my goodness, did we just have an earthquake? >> but we did a lot of us were or where second guessing ourselves, we are wondering did we just experienced that? and then obviously as more and more people people started coming out of their offices, we realize what we had experienced was in fact, an earthquake,

obviously in an unusual event to experience something like this in new york city. and when you're from california and you're used to earthquakes and you move to a city like new york always in the back of your mind, you always wonder, i wonder what would happen if something like that happened here. now of course, we don't have to wonder anymore >> absolutely. are jason, hey, thank you so much for being ready for us. we appreciate it >> i want to go to laura dolan, >> one of our cnn producers out in long island. i feel like i'm getting to talk to all of my new york friends today. drew jason and laura. laura, what did you feel? i think you're out on long island. is that right >> yeah. i'm about 20 miles out from the city. and when it first started, i thought it was a truck coming down one of the roads. neurons, second heavy truck and they just didn't stop and it started small and it got stronger and stronger to the point where i ran outside. i initially thought it might be my boiler or something crazy going on at my home and when i ran outside my other neighbor,

it could also those of us who are home today and we all thought the same thing. maybe initially something with our home. and when we went outside, we also said, oh, my god, i think we just felt an earthquake so relieved. it wasn't anything from my home, but then the bigger issue of wow, that was a really strong earthquake. and like jason just said, quite different from the one we felt about ten years ago. i think where it was just very quick. this one was noticeably stronger and our house is a homes were shaken. i was a little shaken, but i think my dog felt it more concerned that i was after the fact >> i bet it takes your breath away a little bit and i was just wondering, lord for me, did anything fall off the shelves? was there any damage and forgive me for asking questions. people might say, oh, in california, you should come out here, but i just curious, anything fall off a shelf or anything? >> nothing is off the shelf. things were shaking on my desk that i was working at on the window sills, things were

shaking but they didn't fall off the ground and i did make a clip to my neighbor that welcome to la, but i'm sure they think this is not so but for us, it would definitely something this is not something that feel any day. i mean, this was you know, growing up here. i which an xor as all my colleagues now, right? to feel an earthquake at this point, it's pretty shocking for those of us who've lived here on the east coast for a while >> and i remember the one in dc about a decade or so ago. and you felt it and you knew exactly what it was and i was at all places of mount vernon when that happened. and you could hear all the antiques inside george washington's house shaking back and forth. and so i mean, it does kind of catch you by surprise and take your breath away a little bit and laura, you were just getting to the question i wanted to ask you next, which is i know you're a lifelong new yorker i mean, have you ever felt anything like this before in new york? >> nothing >> not even close >> wow wow.

>> i mean, that shows you how rare this is. all right, lord dolan thank you so much for calling in. again, i feel like i'm getting my longtime friends and the new york bureau, jason then the lord andrew just wanna update our viewers. the governor of new york, kathy hochul has tweeted about this she's obviously going to be updating folks throughout the day but she did tweet earlier that an earthquake did hit west of manhattan, felt throughout new york. she says her team is assessing the impacts, any damage that may have occurred we will update the public throughout the day. and of course, to our viewers who are watching all of this at home, if you happen to have caught some of this on video and your ring doorbell camera that sort of thing. feel free to email me or anybody here at cnn about this? i should also note, just on a lighter note, i know earthquake is a serious situation wherever it happens, but on a lighter note, the empire state building also tweeted, quote, i am fine. >> so >> that from the empire state building there and the empire

state building also saying we are business as usual at the empire state building. i want to go to pete muntean been are aviation correspondent pete any flight interruptions at this sport? i obviously this had to have been felt over at laguardia jfk. a. perhaps over at newark and i have to think it shut people up at those airports as well. >> it seems like they've paired down on the ground steps here from the faa. here's the latest, there's a ground step at newark liberty or national airport, big united have until 11, 30 eastern time in jfk until 11 30 eastern time, bwi and philly now, just deleted from that list. also white plains where there's commercial service and teterboro, a big hub for business jets and corporate aircraft coming into and out of the new york area, it is interesting though that this is already impacting air travel. it seems like flights are moving again at newark, according to cnn producer greg wallace, seems like things are starting to get back to normal. here's the latest from flightaware that cancellations and delays relatively low. cancellations in the right now only 79. so double-digits

delays and the us 1,061, we could see that now number go up though. if these ground stops do stick, of course, a lot of caution here and we know that the faa was on an operations planning call just a little bit ago, a following this earthquake. earthquake can't be felt in the air. of course, although it can be felt on the ground. and we know that earthquakes have been felt in some major metro areas like the dc earthquake of 2011 that wasn't all that far away from the major airport to the dc area, dulles, a bwi, and reagan national. so we will see if there is any response here from the port authority of new york and new jersey, which operates those airports around the new york area. and whether or not there was any damage, there on the ground obviously it's airports. many cases are built on jumping there shortly jump in there because i do want to go to dorothy and mcmanus. i understand she is on the phone to talk to us about what she felt dorothea what can you tell us? >> so i worked at the new york

called science and queens and we were in our offices preparing for a big event that we're having on monday to celebrate the eclipse. >> and >> all of a sudden everybody kind of froze where they were. and we were looking around like is this an earthquake happening at the time we also had over 800 students in the building for field trip so it was a little bit of a okay. where do we go from here moment and our fire alarm started going off i you. wait, everyone. as you can imagine, trying to get that many people out of a space can be a little bit chaotic, but i think we got everyone out in about the first two minutes. so we still are standing outside kind of waiting for an evaluation before we go back in, but we are quite a few children out here >> wow. >> and dorothea, i mean, did anybody catch this on-camera by just by accident, by happenstance that happened to be a recording. any of this. and what were the reactions of

everybody around you when you were all going through this? >> you know, everybody was just kind of surprised and i think the children who were making their way out for them, it was actually a bit exciting too, because they have not experienced something like this before. and weren't really sure what that feeling was so that was interesting because all right, dorothea, thank you very much. we appreciate it. i hope everybody is feeling okay after that. again, when a recap our top story for our viewers of 4.7 magnitude earthquake has been felt in the northeastern united states, according to the us geological survey, i do want to point out, we did mention that there was a tweet from the new york governor kathy hochul. there's also been a tweet from governor phil murphy of new jersey. he is also saying, our region experienced an earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 4.7. we've activated our state emergency operations center. please do not call 911. the governor is

saying and the other thing i want to mention our team in new york is telling us that the philadelphia police department is aware of reports of seismic activity. they're urging people not to call 911 unless it's an emergency. so new york, new jersey, philadelphia. i know a lot of folks are probably watching right now. please don't call 911 because you heard an earthquake, the authorities are asking you not to do that. you might tie up those emergency lines when they're needed for actual emergencies this is just something we're all going to be talking about. pete muntean. i understand the standing by. i can go back to people one last time. if you've got a quick thought added up and tell us what you got. i'm being told we gotta wrap and go to a break, but what do you got? >> big thing here is the sea of the airports or damaged. we know that flights are going to be delayed according to the faa and our greg wallace, the latest is that 30 to 45 minutes into newark laguardia, and jfk. there are grounds stops at jfk and newark >> pete muntean. thank you very much. and elisa raffa in the cnn weather center. thank you

very much for your assistance. during all of this and two adjacent laura dolan, andrew kaczynski, everybody else. thanks for chiming in so quickly during this breaking news again, the top story earthquake felt in new york, and its surrounding areas. we're going to stay on top of all of that. my colleague wolf blitzer is coming up at the top of the hour. thank you very much for joining us. we're tick quick break. be right back with more than breaking news good day >> i brought in a ceu or max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried be felt more energy and just two weeks here, i'll take that. >> ensure knocks protein 50 grams protein one prim sugar, 25 vitamins minerals, and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic >> i did have hearing aids from another company. i was just frustrated, almost gave up with miracle year. it's all about service. they're personable, they're friendly. i'm very happy with them. >> we provide you with a free lifetime of aftercare, meaning free checkups cleanings, and adjustments.

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